Re: [osol-discuss] Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5?
Thanks Paul, I'm still waiting on the Transitive people to get back to me with a trial license extension so I can attempt to install the Sparc version of Wildfire on Solaris x86. Looking more into how the QuickTransit thing works though, I'm wondering more and more if it will work. Looks like QuickTransit actually installs a stripped down Sparc version of OpenSolaris. If it doesn't have motif...then I guess I could be back to square one. :) Ohh well, I'm still going to test it out anyways. Everything is starting to come back to me. Pro/E comes with a stripped down version of Vericut. I totally forgot, probably about 3 years ago now, I contacted cgtech and they sent me a copy of Vericut. It wouldn't install. The lame part is, it's a Java app in the first place so technically should be cross-platform, but it's not. That was almost three years ago though. Perhaps I should rerequest they port to x86. They didn't seem to care though last time though. PTC didn't seem to care either or want to pressure cgtech into caring. But it's worth another try. Maybe now they'll realize there is an x86 Solaris market. I did however give up on trying to install Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5. Anyone from Sun reading this thread and need anymore reason to opensource CDE so it can be included in OpenSolaris? It seems to me if OpenSolaris 2008.5 is a sign of things to come, then I would wager PTC will probably just drop Pro/E on Solaris instead of trying to figure out how to make their product work without motif. That's purely speculation on my part though, cause I just don't trust PTC to make any decision that would make my job easy :) Aaron Paul Gress wrote: OK, I did a little checking for you. With the install menu's, Vericut is listed in the Sparc version, but not on the X64 version. Looking at Vericuts website (http://www.cgtech.com/) they list a Solaris version, but no reference to which type. Probably only the Sparc version is available. There needs to be some requests to them, maybe we can prompt them to port it. Attached below are the two install menu's. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5?
Yeah my ldd output was similar but I have Wildfire 3.0 This is even more off topic, but Paul, does Wildfire 4.0 on x64 have Vericut and the ability to post process G code? The options are there in WF3, but they never got ported from the Sparc version to the x64 version. As far as Adobe Reader, don't hold your breath :) At my office we're considering QuickTransit for Solaris/SPARC-to-Solaris/x86 by Transitive so we can run Sparc applications on x64 rigs. That would in theory allow us to run the Sparc version of Wildfire and hopefully regain access to Vericut and the post processor. It would also allow us to run Adobe Reader that Adobe has ported to Sparc, but seems to refuse to port to x64. I have confirmed the Sparc version of Adobe Reader runs fine with QuickTransit trial version, well at least on Solaris 10. I'm installing OpenSolaris 2008.5 on one of my Ultra 20s right now. Gonna see what happens with Wildfire. I think I read on google that some people have installed the motif pkgs from the Developer editions of Solaris, though in no way supported by Sun. We shall see. Aaron Paul Gress wrote: Calum Benson wrote: On 4 Jun 2008, at 21:10, Aaron Wilson wrote: Good point. Is there way to tell if I'm currently using Motif? Ah, Pro/E Wildifire... that brings back memories, I used to work for PTC :) (But not on Pro/E...) One way to tell if an application depends on Motif would be to run: ldd /path/to/application | grep libXm.so and see if you get any output; if you do, the app depends on the Motif library. (Be sure to run the ldd command on the actual application binary rather than any wrapper script that might be used to launch it, though.) Cheeri, Calum. Here is the output for Wildfire 4: $ ldd /Disk1/Binaries/Pro_Engineer/WildFire_4/sun_solaris_x64/obj/pro | grep libXm.so libXm.so.4 =/usr/dt/lib/64/libXm.so.4 So it looks like it still uses Motif. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5?
I was just going to just reply directly to Paul, but I figured there might be another OpenSolaris user that could benefit from my trials and tribulations. Paul, I'm not exactly sure where it is exactly myself. Personally I haven't used Pro/E since college. It's part of Manufacturing is all my Engineers are able to tell me at the moment. From there you have access to Gpost and Vericut. Vericut is actually a third party app integrated into Wildfire, well Sparc and Windows versions at any rate. As far as I understand Vericut simulates the paths the CNC machine will take, so you can see if their is a problem before you actually try it on your CNC machines. Our PTC reseller rep just happened to be in town today and gave us access to the Sparc version of Wildfire. Downloading that now. Just sent an email to Transitive to rerequest a trial version of QuickTransit. I'm hoping that the Sparc version runs as well as the Sparc version of Adobe did in QuickTransit. If that's the case we're going to be getting QuickTransit and we'll finally have access to the missing Wildfire features and Adobe Reader. I don't think I can wait to 2009. I also tried installing the x64 version of Wildfire in OpenSolaris 2008.5, but got: Starting PTC.Setup, please wait ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/install/PTC/WF3_M070_Solaris_x86# ld.so.1: AAAxAaGtb: fatal: libXm.so.4: open failed: No such file or directory Pretty much expected that. I'm gonna try installing the motif packages from SXDE into OpenSolaris 2008.5. Not expecting too much out of that exercise though. I'll probably just install Solaris 10 U5 on that machine. I would just like make things a little easier for our Engineers by giving them a more recent Gnome experience that OpenSolaris 2008.5 has. As far as window focusing issues, I'm not positive, but I don't think we are experiencing those. I only have one of the engineers using that version of OpenSolaris. He's the most vocal of the group regarding stuff like that, so if there was a problem I know I would have heard about it.:) I do know he is an avid user of Desktop switching too. Paul Gress wrote: Aaron, I'm at work now, so my Pro-E is on Sparc. At home I have it on Solaris 10 X64 and on my Laptop it's on OpenSolaris Nevada B89. At work I have both WF3 and WF4, I looked for the Vericut feature you talked about, but cannot find it. So, could you please tell me where it's located, and I'd be happy to check for you. Also, as Alan stated in his e-mail, Adobe announced Acroreader is being ported to X64, what I hope for is that it will be integrated the same way as with the Sparc and Windows versions. I wasn't brave enough to try OpenSolaris 2008.5 (Indania) yet, as Motif is completely stripped out as compared to Nevada which is reduced Motif. Also, do you get any of the window focusing issues when your working on more than one part? Paul Aaron Wilson wrote: Yeah my ldd output was similar but I have Wildfire 3.0 This is even more off topic, but Paul, does Wildfire 4.0 on x64 have Vericut and the ability to post process G code? The options are there in WF3, but they never got ported from the Sparc version to the x64 version. As far as Adobe Reader, don't hold your breath :) At my office we're considering QuickTransit for Solaris/SPARC-to-Solaris/x86 by Transitive so we can run Sparc applications on x64 rigs. That would in theory allow us to run the Sparc version of Wildfire and hopefully regain access to Vericut and the post processor. It would also allow us to run Adobe Reader that Adobe has ported to Sparc, but seems to refuse to port to x64. I have confirmed the Sparc version of Adobe Reader runs fine with QuickTransit trial version, well at least on Solaris 10. I'm installing OpenSolaris 2008.5 on one of my Ultra 20s right now. Gonna see what happens with Wildfire. I think I read on google that some people have installed the motif pkgs from the Developer editions of Solaris, though in no way supported by Sun. We shall see. Aaron ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5?
I have not come across Pro/E Wildfire, but many of the Pro/E products uses Motif as their graphical toolkits which is not on OpenSolaris 2008.5 and this may be the first thing you want to find out :) -Ghee Aaron Wilson wrote: Probably the wrong group to ask so I apologize, but has any one tried running Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5? One of our workstations is having issues, and it sort of looking like reinstalling Solaris 10 might be the only option left. If I'm gonna do that though, I might as well install OpenSolaris 2008.5, granted Pro/E will work. I hate going over to the PTC site and asking questions. When I deal with PTC the answer to every question starts with click on Start I can tell them ten times in a row I'm using Solaris x64, and they just can't comprehend that doesn't mean Windows. I have tried Wildfire 3.0 build M070 as recently as build snv_77, without problems, but I'm sure theres major differences between snv_77 and OpenSolaris 2008.5. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5?
Good point. Is there way to tell if I'm currently using Motif? On the Ultra 20s we are currently running Wildfire on, we're using Solaris 10 with Xorg, not Xsun and running GDM and not CDE. Not that I pretend to understand what Motif is, but from the brief google search I just ran, I'm not sure this issue would pertain to Solaris 10 let alone OpenSolaris. I got the impression it was more for older apps like those designed to run in CDE on Solaris 9. Wildfire 3.0, though as far I know has a minimum installation requirement of Solaris 10. I might have to try it out the hard way :)Thankfully I have a spare hard drive I can swap out in one of the Ultra 20's I ultimately would like to run this on. On a side note, Google is fast. This thread is already indexed :) Aaron Ghee Teo wrote: I have not come across Pro/E Wildfire, but many of the Pro/E products uses Motif as their graphical toolkits which is not on OpenSolaris 2008.5 and this may be the first thing you want to find out :) -Ghee Aaron Wilson wrote: Probably the wrong group to ask so I apologize, but has any one tried running Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5? One of our workstations is having issues, and it sort of looking like reinstalling Solaris 10 might be the only option left. If I'm gonna do that though, I might as well install OpenSolaris 2008.5, granted Pro/E will work. I hate going over to the PTC site and asking questions. When I deal with PTC the answer to every question starts with click on Start I can tell them ten times in a row I'm using Solaris x64, and they just can't comprehend that doesn't mean Windows. I have tried Wildfire 3.0 build M070 as recently as build snv_77, without problems, but I'm sure theres major differences between snv_77 and OpenSolaris 2008.5. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5?
On 4 Jun 2008, at 21:10, Aaron Wilson wrote: Good point. Is there way to tell if I'm currently using Motif? Ah, Pro/E Wildifire... that brings back memories, I used to work for PTC :) (But not on Pro/E...) One way to tell if an application depends on Motif would be to run: ldd /path/to/application | grep libXm.so and see if you get any output; if you do, the app depends on the Motif library. (Be sure to run the ldd command on the actual application binary rather than any wrapper script that might be used to launch it, though.) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5?
Aaron Wilson wrote: Probably the wrong group to ask so I apologize, but has any one tried running Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5? One of our workstations is having issues, and it sort of looking like reinstalling Solaris 10 might be the only option left. If I'm gonna do that though, I might as well install OpenSolaris 2008.5, granted Pro/E will work. I hate going over to the PTC site and asking questions. When I deal with PTC the answer to every question starts with click on Start I can tell them ten times in a row I'm using Solaris x64, and they just can't comprehend that doesn't mean Windows. I have tried Wildfire 3.0 build M070 as recently as build snv_77, without problems, but I'm sure theres major differences between snv_77 and OpenSolaris 2008.5. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Well I've got Pro/E Wildfire 4 running on b89 (not OpenSolaris 2008.5). I should be upgrading to 90 tomorrow. The only issue I have found so far is window focus. If you switch from the task bar it brings the window to the front, but not active. If you switch from the window tab (part of the main toolbar at the top) it changes it to an active window, but still in the background. You have to switch both places to bring up the correct window to focus. This is in gnome. Don't use the Workspace Switcher (if you have more then one pro/e window open), if you do, then switch back to your Pro/E session, the window focus will jump around and always lands on the wrong active window. Other then the window focus issues, basically no problems. I hoping when Adobe releases acroreader, we will now get the pdf capability to X64 then. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5?
Calum Benson wrote: On 4 Jun 2008, at 21:10, Aaron Wilson wrote: Good point. Is there way to tell if I'm currently using Motif? Ah, Pro/E Wildifire... that brings back memories, I used to work for PTC :) (But not on Pro/E...) One way to tell if an application depends on Motif would be to run: ldd /path/to/application | grep libXm.so and see if you get any output; if you do, the app depends on the Motif library. (Be sure to run the ldd command on the actual application binary rather than any wrapper script that might be used to launch it, though.) Cheeri, Calum. Here is the output for Wildfire 4: $ ldd /Disk1/Binaries/Pro_Engineer/WildFire_4/sun_solaris_x64/obj/pro | grep libXm.so libXm.so.4 =/usr/dt/lib/64/libXm.so.4 So it looks like it still uses Motif. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
