RE: Adobe Acrobat Certificates?

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Roylance
Hi Jacob,

The best way to view what CDS is, is via the Adobe Website.  It's a medium
assurance hardware based identity credential that we, and others, supply.
It's ultimately rooted through to the Adobe Root CA...ie. A root in all
Adobe reader versions from Version 6 onwards.
http://www.adobe.com/security/partners_cds.html

We, along with other well known names in the CA industry, offer CDS
certificates to the market.  If anyone is interested then please mail me
separately and I'd be happy to provide more details away from the list, but
an example is the best way to quickly show you the differences.  

This one is certified with a CDS certificate
http://www.globalsign.co.uk/resources/documentsign-creating-trusted-document
s.pdf and this one is self signed to allow you to compare the difference in
the GUI on whatever version of Adobe Acrobat you are using
http://www.globalsign.co.uk/document-security-compliance/adobe-cds/ 

You can use the certificate viewer built into Adobe Acrobat or Reader to
examine the profile of the certificates.

Thanks.

Steve


-Original Message-
From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org
[mailto:owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] On Behalf Of Jakob Bohm
Sent: 16 August 2010 15:52
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Certificates?

On 16-08-2010 11:51, Steve Roylance wrote:
 Ivo,

 GlobalSign offers Adobe CDS based certificates to the market so we are
very
 familiar with Adobe Acrobat.   If you want to create a simple PKCS#12 self
 signed certificate and you have Acrobat Pro, then go into the 'Advanced'
 settings menu 'Security Settings' and simply click on 'Add ID' and a
wizard
 will guide you through the process to end up with a PKCS#12 or an
exportable
 certificate in your Windows PC cert store.  It's very easy.

Nice feature for test signatures, but I don't think that's what the
OP wanted (see below).

 If you ever then need a real CDS (Recognizable by PDF reader worldwide)
 certificate GlobalSign would be pleased to help get one for you.

Nice plug, but I guess the OP wanted to issue locally trusted 
certificates signed by an in-house enterprise CA that runs on a Linux
machine and is based on OpenSSL (such as tinyCA, or Red Hat CA).

So maybe you (based on your experience) can tell the rest of us
exactly what makes an Adobe PDF Cert different from a generic X.509
cert?

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RE: Adobe Acrobat Certificates?

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Roylance
Sal, Jakob,

The CP for Adobe is here:- http://www.adobe.com/misc/pdfs/Adobe_CDS_CP.pdf
and section 7 highlights the specific profile of the certificate.  

Sal, you are correct it's an X509 certificate and there are no deviations
from that spec.  However, there are specific OID and specific rules that the
CP mandates and there are also specific services that are related to the
certificate which are indicated within the profile (Time stamping for
example).

FYI, I've hopefully addressed Ivo's concerns in a separate e-mail and made
suitable suggestions to him on ways to solve his particular issue.

Thanks

Steve


-Original Message-
From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org
[mailto:owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] On Behalf Of Crypto Sal
Sent: 17 August 2010 05:30
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Certificates?

  On 08/16/2010 10:52 AM, Jakob Bohm wrote:
 On 16-08-2010 11:51, Steve Roylance wrote:
 Ivo,

 GlobalSign offers Adobe CDS based certificates to the market so we 
 are very
 familiar with Adobe Acrobat.   If you want to create a simple PKCS#12 
 self
 signed certificate and you have Acrobat Pro, then go into the 'Advanced'
 settings menu 'Security Settings' and simply click on 'Add ID' and a 
 wizard
 will guide you through the process to end up with a PKCS#12 or an 
 exportable
 certificate in your Windows PC cert store.  It's very easy.

 Nice feature for test signatures, but I don't think that's what the
 OP wanted (see below).

 If you ever then need a real CDS (Recognizable by PDF reader worldwide)
 certificate GlobalSign would be pleased to help get one for you.

 Nice plug, but I guess the OP wanted to issue locally trusted 
 certificates signed by an in-house enterprise CA that runs on a Linux
 machine and is based on OpenSSL (such as tinyCA, or Red Hat CA).

 So maybe you (based on your experience) can tell the rest of us
 exactly what makes an Adobe PDF Cert different from a generic X.509
 cert?


Jakob,

 From my experiences: NOTHING. (So long as it has digital signing enabled)

 From what I have seen and know, Adobe CDS partners [ 
http://www.adobe.com/security/partners_cds.html ], get an intermediate 
certificate from Adobe, which they then use to issue digital signing 
certificates to Organizations or Individuals. (Entity/their customers). 
The only real benefit is much like having a publicly trusted SSL 
certificate from a CA (Verisign/GeoTrust, Comodo, Entrust, GlobalSign, 
GoDaddy, etc.) vs. that of a self-signed certificate in a browser. (It 
helps get rid of the browser nag, because what end-user wants to 
actually THINK before they do something?)

I do like the fact that Adobe gives end-users the ability to trust who 
they want (much like the friendly browsers do these days), when they 
want and they don't have to rely on Adobe to certify CAs especially 
since Adobe hasn't decided not to partner with some of the more popular 
global CAs such as Comodo, StartSSL, GoDaddy, etc. (Even though: 
Mozilla, Opera and Microsoft DO)

Hope this sheds some more light on the issue.



However, we await Steve's response.

--Sal

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RE: Adobe Acrobat Certificates?

2010-08-16 Thread Steve Roylance
Ivo,

GlobalSign offers Adobe CDS based certificates to the market so we are very
familiar with Adobe Acrobat.   If you want to create a simple PKCS#12 self
signed certificate and you have Acrobat Pro, then go into the 'Advanced'
settings menu 'Security Settings' and simply click on 'Add ID' and a wizard
will guide you through the process to end up with a PKCS#12 or an exportable
certificate in your Windows PC cert store.  It's very easy.

If you ever then need a real CDS (Recognizable by PDF reader worldwide)
certificate GlobalSign would be pleased to help get one for you.

Good Luck

Kind Regards,

Steve Roylance
Business Development Director

GlobalSign
www.globalsign.com| www.globalsign.eu 

-Original Message-
From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org
[mailto:owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] On Behalf Of ivo welch
Sent: 16 August 2010 01:21
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Adobe Acrobat Certificates?

Dear openssl experts---is anyone using openSSL certificates for adobe
acrobat?  if so, can this person please tell me the magic invokation
to create a pkcs#12 certificate that expires in x days (linux), and
perhaps how to get it working under Acrobat Pro (windows)?  I am not
an IT person, and my encryption knowledge is rudimentary.  sorry to
take everyone's time with this.  sincerely,  /iaw

Ivo Welch (ivo.we...@brown.edu, ivo.we...@gmail.com)
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OpenSSL trusted root store

2008-02-21 Thread Steve Roylance
Dear list,

 

One of my responsibilities is to ensure that GlobalSign's roots are embedded
within devices and operating systems.  Recently a major browser provider
indicated the following:-  

 

However, for the most part we integrate with third party SSL/TLS libraries.
On these devices we do not generally control what goes into the root store
of the device. In these cases I think you will have to talk to the various
device manufacturers we integrate with, and sometimes the SSL/TLS library
provider.

A few typical ones; Certicom, OpenSSL, MatrixSSL, etc.

 

Can someone point me in the right direction please to ensure future OpenSSL
versions have the correct GlobalSign Roots.  We've recently updated our
roots and therefore have new ones to embed.  I'm not sure to whom I need to
direct my request.

 

Many thanks

 

Kind Regards,

 

Steve Roylance

Business Development Director

 

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