Re: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-06 Thread Jens Maus
That sounds good. How do you want my changes to be submitted? Via an attached 
diff here or by private mail?

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 Am 05.09.2014 um 13:49 schrieb Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com:
 
 Thanks.
 
 There is no big rush, knowing you're working on it, and this is for after 
 1.0.2.  Perhaps by January/Feb?
 
 
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RE: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-06 Thread Salz, Rich
It would be easiest if you attached them to RT 2279.  If that’s a hassle, post 
them or email me.

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Re: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-05 Thread Jens Maus
Am 04.09.2014 um 17:56 schrieb Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com:

 So please tell me *exactly* what you require to get the NO_FP_API support
 into a state that it is still acceptable for you. And please tell how and on 
 which
 platform I can reproduce the problems you are seeing.
 
 Any Linux platform.  ./config no-stdio -DNO_FP_API  should build clean.

Ok, just give me some time to examine this and to cleanup our AmiSSL SVN 
repository so that I can provide you more clean patches to keep these things 
alive. And of course its clear to me that I am the petitioner. That was clear 
right from the start. 

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RE: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-05 Thread Salz, Rich
Thanks.

There is no big rush, knowing you're working on it, and this is for after 
1.0.2.  Perhaps by January/Feb?


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Re: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-04 Thread Jens Maus
Well, I would be happy to assist you in keeping NO_FP_API alive and supply you 
with adequate diffs and resources. However, I would first need to know what 
exactly is not working for you and where and on which platform exactly it 
breaks for you because actually it is *working* for us.

Please note that the Amiga platform is substantially different to the usual 
Unix and Windows environments OpenSSL is build for. One important reason why we 
need the NO_FP_API support is, that AmigaOS comes with a variety of different 
c-library implementations which all have their own (thus incompatible) FP 
implementations. Thus, we need to have a possibility to easily compile OpenSSL 
without any FP depending function prototype so that our publicly released 
shared library can be used by applications being compile by different compilers 
and thus c-libraries implementation of FP.

So please tell me *exactly* what you require to get the NO_FP_API support into 
a state that it is still acceptable for you. And please tell how and on which 
platform I can reproduce the problems you are seeing.

best regards,
jens 

Am 04.09.2014 um 03:02 schrieb Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com:

 I am sorry that I was not clear.
 
 I am saying that if there are people who depend and want no-stdio and 
 NO_FP_API to be kept in the OpenSSL source, then they need to feed their 
 patches, just to make those things work, back to OpenSSL.
 
 My mind is not made up.  I am asking for people who want us to keep this, to 
 contribute code and effort so that we can do so.  Right now it's a broken 
 build that nobody else can use.
 
 Does that make more sense?

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RE: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-04 Thread Salz, Rich
 So please tell me *exactly* what you require to get the NO_FP_API support
 into a state that it is still acceptable for you. And please tell how and on 
 which
 platform I can reproduce the problems you are seeing.

Any Linux platform.  ./config no-stdio -DNO_FP_API  should build clean.

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Re: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-03 Thread Jens Maus
We are using these options for an AmigaOS-based port of OpenSSL (which we call 
AmiSSL) which can be found here:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/amissl/

In fact, we use these two options because file pointers are substantially 
handled differently on AmigaOS and we use no-stdio because we build AmiSSL as 
an Amiga shared library which doesn’t support stdio output.

So please don’t remove these options but keep them.

regards,
jens

Am 03.09.2014 um 18:10 schrieb Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com:

 These configuration options do not build. I started to try and fix them, but 
 after fixing the first few problems, things got really sticky.
  
 We hear that OpenSSL on embedded devices is important. Is anyone using this, 
 willing to share their fixes, and help maintain it?  If not, it will be 
 removed post-1.0.2
  
 Thanks.
  
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RE: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-03 Thread Salz, Rich
What config flags to you use?  What changes have you made?  It doesn't build 
for me.

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Re: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-03 Thread Alan Buxey
+1 for keeping the features (I use AmiSSL ;) )

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RE: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-03 Thread Salz, Rich
 +1 for keeping the features (I use AmiSSL ;) )

It doesn’t build.  Unless that is addressed, it is highly likely that I will 
remove it from the tree after 1.0.2

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Re: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-03 Thread Jens Maus
Am 03.09.2014 um 21:33 schrieb Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com:

 +1 for keeping the features (I use AmiSSL ;) )
 
 It doesn’t build.  Unless that is addressed, it is highly likely that I will 
 remove it from the tree after 1.0.2

Well, then why are you asking for opinions in first place if your decision is 
already made. All I can say is that AmiSSL perfectly builds without an file 
pointer based functions and without stdio. I can of course prepare a diff for 
you but this diff will then include other amiga related modifications as well.

regards,
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Re: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-03 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Jens Maus m...@jens-maus.de wrote:

 Am 03.09.2014 um 21:33 schrieb Salz, Rich rs...@akamai.com:

  +1 for keeping the features (I use AmiSSL ;) )
 
  It doesn’t build.  Unless that is addressed, it is highly likely that I
 will remove it from the tree after 1.0.2

 Well, then why are you asking for opinions in first place if your decision
 is already made. All I can say is that AmiSSL perfectly builds without an
 file pointer based functions and without stdio. I can of course prepare a
 diff for you but this diff will then include other amiga related
 modifications as well.


Please - show, don't tell. Diffs and some details of the build environment
would be helpful.

-  M


RE: The no-stdio and NO_FP_API options

2014-09-03 Thread Salz, Rich
I am sorry that I was not clear.

I am saying that if there are people who depend and want no-stdio and NO_FP_API 
to be kept in the OpenSSL source, then they need to feed their patches, just to 
make those things work, back to OpenSSL.

My mind is not made up.  I am asking for people who want us to keep this, to 
contribute code and effort so that we can do so.  Right now it's a broken build 
that nobody else can use.

Does that make more sense?
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