Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
Hi Frans, You should take a look at tsuru[1], it's build in go and there's a lot to improve, but it's a great and stable paas, built to be flexible! [1] https://github.com/timeredbull/tsuru/ -- Flavia ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
flavia any paas are welcome lets my team test it. thx in advanced Frans Thamura Meruvian On Sep 16, 2012 8:55 PM, Flavia Missi flaviami...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Frans, You should take a look at tsuru[1], it's build in go and there's a lot to improve, but it's a great and stable paas, built to be flexible! [1] https://github.com/timeredbull/tsuru/ -- Flavia ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
On 09/12/2012 09:13 PM, Frans Thamura wrote: hi all we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking alternative to it shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage different way his cloudfoundry there are piston, stackato i hear appfog never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as platform i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is the best glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique innovation any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community program thx all Frans Thamura Meruvian ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Warning - I'm a biased party since I work on OpenShift, but I couldn't resist... Another good option to consider is OpenShift. OpenShift [1] has also been designed from the ground up around an extensible 'cartridge' model [2] that allows any software to be integrated and managed by the platform. OpenShift's dependencies are also isolated to the operating system which allow it to work on any IaaS solution like OpenStack. We think the combination of secure multi-tenancy that OpenShift provides in conjunction with private cloud capabilities that OpenStack provides is really powerful. If you want to see something up and running quickly, you can check out what the Heat API guys have done with OpenStack + OpenShift [3]. In terms of PaaS 'API' standardization, I think the industry is a ways out from that. While higher level PaaS API's might seem to provide portability, many lower level details still are exposed that the applications are forced to deal with. Those include things like application runtimes, storage, operating system versions and isolation techniques. That said, our goal is to build strong standards in this space over time. We are involved in several industry PaaS standards but they are still a ways out from being finalized [4][5]. Also, consider how fast the multi-tenancy technologies themselves are evolving in the operating system (e.g. kernel namespaces, linux control groups, selinux sandboxes) in addition to the ways to utilize them (e.g. lxc). Given that pace, it feels a little early to make long term decisions about where to draw the line between a virtual machine and a linux container. Knowing how to leverage 'containers' is critical enough for a PaaS that I believe we'll have to have more standardization at that layer before we see the PaaS evolution slow down. In the meantime though, we're going to keep hacking on OpenShift and OpenStack, so if there is anything you'd like to see, just let us know! [6] 1 - http://red.ht/In0DOn 2 - http://red.ht/Il2XBZ 3 - https://github.com/heat-api/heat/wiki/Runningopenshift 4 - http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/08/CAMP-PaaS 5 - https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=tosca 6 - https://openshift.redhat.com/community/open-source#Discussion_Forums -Matt ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
hi matt glad hear that openshift also opensource :).. a like a choice of PaaS in cloud, and OpenStack as reference. a lot of homework in our OpenPaaS team, which we reposiiton our OpenStack User group more technical, like demo apps , which right now we distribute the material in PDF using bahasa.. Frans On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Matt Hicks mhi...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/12/2012 09:13 PM, Frans Thamura wrote: hi all we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking alternative to it shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage different way his cloudfoundry there are piston, stackato i hear appfog never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as platform i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is the best glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique innovation any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community program thx all Frans Thamura Meruvian ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Warning - I'm a biased party since I work on OpenShift, but I couldn't resist... Another good option to consider is OpenShift. OpenShift [1] has also been designed from the ground up around an extensible 'cartridge' model [2] that allows any software to be integrated and managed by the platform. OpenShift's dependencies are also isolated to the operating system which allow it to work on any IaaS solution like OpenStack. We think the combination of secure multi-tenancy that OpenShift provides in conjunction with private cloud capabilities that OpenStack provides is really powerful. If you want to see something up and running quickly, you can check out what the Heat API guys have done with OpenStack + OpenShift [3]. In terms of PaaS 'API' standardization, I think the industry is a ways out from that. While higher level PaaS API's might seem to provide portability, many lower level details still are exposed that the applications are forced to deal with. Those include things like application runtimes, storage, operating system versions and isolation techniques. That said, our goal is to build strong standards in this space over time. We are involved in several industry PaaS standards but they are still a ways out from being finalized [4][5]. Also, consider how fast the multi-tenancy technologies themselves are evolving in the operating system (e.g. kernel namespaces, linux control groups, selinux sandboxes) in addition to the ways to utilize them (e.g. lxc). Given that pace, it feels a little early to make long term decisions about where to draw the line between a virtual machine and a linux container. Knowing how to leverage 'containers' is critical enough for a PaaS that I believe we'll have to have more standardization at that layer before we see the PaaS evolution slow down. In the meantime though, we're going to keep hacking on OpenShift and OpenStack, so if there is anything you'd like to see, just let us know! [6] 1 - http://red.ht/In0DOn 2 - http://red.ht/Il2XBZ 3 - https://github.com/heat-api/heat/wiki/Runningopenshift 4 - http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/08/CAMP-PaaS 5 - https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=tosca 6 - https://openshift.redhat.com/community/open-source#Discussion_Forums -Matt ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
waiting Patrick Chanezone comment about this, because he is DIrector of Developer Relations in VMWare that spoke CloudFoundry Frans On 9/15/12, John Purrier j...@openstack.org wrote: Glad to see some discussion of PaaS and OpenStack on this list. The blog post that Frans linked to below is a very good overview of how we (AppFog) use, and contribute to, the Cloud Foundry open source project. What may not be apparent is that Cloud Foundry provides not only a starting point for building open PaaS solutions, but also an industry standard API. We have implemented CF on a variety of public infrastructures (RAX OpenStack, HP OpenStack, AWS) and have the capability of deploying to standardized private/on-prem cloud solutions (OpenStack based from Rackspace, Piston, Red Hat etc.; AWS compatible from Eucalyptus, etc.). With a standard API definition there is the opportunity to be much more inclusive in the PaaS solution space. For instance, AppFog not only supports Infrastructure Clouds as application targets, but also native Platform Clouds, such as Windows Azure. This is made possible through our partnership with Microsoft by building a Cloud Foundry API that translates to the native Windows Azure platform services. Going forward we believe that this will become more commonplace, and that the CF API will, in fact, be the defacto PaaS API. Huge opportunities open for cloud providers, IT departments, and developers once it is trivial to move application workloads from one cloud to another. Whether this is private/public hybrid and bursting scenarios, movement between private data centers to facilitate consolidation, or developers easily being able to leverage multiple cloud providers for HA/DR purposes… This is enabled by the common Platform API and services that the open Cloud Foundry PaaS project provides. This is not future stuff, it is happening now. Try it for free here: https://console.appfog.com/signup Create an app, find the clone button in the console, and copy the app to a different continent/provider with 1 click. Certainly if you are involved with OpenStack; as a developer, service provider, or IT professional, it is worth your while to take a look at the open source Cloud Foundry project: http://www.cloudfoundry.org . Providing an open PaaS over your OpenStack infrastructure will significantly help your developers and operational teams. John John Purrier Chief Technology Officer appfog.com http://www.appfog.com jpurr...@appfog.com j...@openstack.com About: johnpur http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnpur From: Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org Date: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:12 PM To: Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry and this is appfog. http://blog.cloudfoundry.org/2012/09/13/how-we-built-appfog-using-cloud-foun dry/ -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: yes, that why i found OpenPaaS (openpaas.or.id http://openpaas.or.id ), in conjuction with openstack-id inside openpaas we create cloudfoundry-id. and now try to learn and research the effect of cloudfoundry, and value proposition on openstack yes, we tested OpenStack + Stackato here, and tomorrow the cloud roadshow for startup just starting. hope Indonesia can bring new value in how PaaS value-ing the startup to more competitive Frans On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com wrote: frans, The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged the CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's Stackato and Vmware' http://cloudfoundry.com cloudfoundry.com http://cloudfoundry.com The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in all it's variations, cloudfoundry runs and scales wells on OpenStack. Forks and extensions to the core project are to be expected and encouraged This is the bazaar effect of open source, the cloud foundry open source project has an active and vibrant Community - and makes it open for business as each variation meets the needs of different use cases. CloudFoundry.com http://CloudFoundry.com is VMware's publicly hosted PaaS that offers a subset of the languages available in the Open Source code base. Stackato delivers the software
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
, and developers once it is trivial to move application workloads from one cloud to another. Whether this is private/public hybrid and bursting scenarios, movement between private data centers to facilitate consolidation, or developers easily being able to leverage multiple cloud providers for HA/DR purposes… This is enabled by the common Platform API and services that the open Cloud Foundry PaaS project provides. This is not future stuff, it is happening now. Try it for free here: https://console.appfog.com/signup Create an app, find the clone button in the console, and copy the app to a different continent/provider with 1 click. Certainly if you are involved with OpenStack; as a developer, service provider, or IT professional, it is worth your while to take a look at the open source Cloud Foundry project: http://www.cloudfoundry.org . Providing an open PaaS over your OpenStack infrastructure will significantly help your developers and operational teams. John John Purrier Chief Technology Officer appfog.com http://www.appfog.com jpurr...@appfog.com j...@openstack.com About: johnpur http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnpur From: Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org Date: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:12 PM To: Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry and this is appfog. http://blog.cloudfoundry.org/2012/09/13/how-we-built-appfog-using-cloud-foun dry/ -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: yes, that why i found OpenPaaS (openpaas.or.id http://openpaas.or.id ), in conjuction with openstack-id inside openpaas we create cloudfoundry-id. and now try to learn and research the effect of cloudfoundry, and value proposition on openstack yes, we tested OpenStack + Stackato here, and tomorrow the cloud roadshow for startup just starting. hope Indonesia can bring new value in how PaaS value-ing the startup to more competitive Frans On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com wrote: frans, The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged the CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's Stackato and Vmware' http://cloudfoundry.com cloudfoundry.com http://cloudfoundry.com The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in all it's variations, cloudfoundry runs and scales wells on OpenStack. Forks and extensions to the core project are to be expected and encouraged This is the bazaar effect of open source, the cloud foundry open source project has an active and vibrant Community - and makes it open for business as each variation meets the needs of different use cases. CloudFoundry.com http://CloudFoundry.com is VMware's publicly hosted PaaS that offers a subset of the languages available in the Open Source code base. Stackato delivers the software for Enterprise Private Clouds to install and manage their own Private PaaSes on-premise. We obviously have added alot of additional functionality to make Stackato secure and enable it to be easy to deploy on-premise. ActiveState's Stackato leverages cloudfoundry and a number of other open source projects in our commercial Private PaaS offering. We maintain API compatibility with CloudFoundry, we contribute back to the project, we've open sourced our client and continue to enhance our offerings. I'd encourage anyone in the OpenStack community to take a closer look at the cloud foundry project and get involved in helping to continue to ensure that it works well as an OpenPaaS for OpenStack. Diane Mueller Sent from my iPad On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking alternative to it shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage different way his cloudfoundry there are piston, stackato i hear appfog never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as platform i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is the best glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique innovation any feedback? i try
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
Glad to see some discussion of PaaS and OpenStack on this list. The blog post that Frans linked to below is a very good overview of how we (AppFog) use, and contribute to, the Cloud Foundry open source project. What may not be apparent is that Cloud Foundry provides not only a starting point for building open PaaS solutions, but also an industry standard API. We have implemented CF on a variety of public infrastructures (RAX OpenStack, HP OpenStack, AWS) and have the capability of deploying to standardized private/on-prem cloud solutions (OpenStack based from Rackspace, Piston, Red Hat etc.; AWS compatible from Eucalyptus, etc.). With a standard API definition there is the opportunity to be much more inclusive in the PaaS solution space. For instance, AppFog not only supports Infrastructure Clouds as application targets, but also native Platform Clouds, such as Windows Azure. This is made possible through our partnership with Microsoft by building a Cloud Foundry API that translates to the native Windows Azure platform services. Going forward we believe that this will become more commonplace, and that the CF API will, in fact, be the defacto PaaS API. Huge opportunities open for cloud providers, IT departments, and developers once it is trivial to move application workloads from one cloud to another. Whether this is private/public hybrid and bursting scenarios, movement between private data centers to facilitate consolidation, or developers easily being able to leverage multiple cloud providers for HA/DR purposes… This is enabled by the common Platform API and services that the open Cloud Foundry PaaS project provides. This is not future stuff, it is happening now. Try it for free here: https://console.appfog.com/signup Create an app, find the clone button in the console, and copy the app to a different continent/provider with 1 click. Certainly if you are involved with OpenStack; as a developer, service provider, or IT professional, it is worth your while to take a look at the open source Cloud Foundry project: http://www.cloudfoundry.org . Providing an open PaaS over your OpenStack infrastructure will significantly help your developers and operational teams. John John Purrier Chief Technology Officer appfog.com http://www.appfog.com jpurr...@appfog.com j...@openstack.com About: johnpur http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnpur From: Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org Date: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:12 PM To: Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry and this is appfog. http://blog.cloudfoundry.org/2012/09/13/how-we-built-appfog-using-cloud-foun dry/ -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: yes, that why i found OpenPaaS (openpaas.or.id http://openpaas.or.id ), in conjuction with openstack-id inside openpaas we create cloudfoundry-id. and now try to learn and research the effect of cloudfoundry, and value proposition on openstack yes, we tested OpenStack + Stackato here, and tomorrow the cloud roadshow for startup just starting. hope Indonesia can bring new value in how PaaS value-ing the startup to more competitive Frans On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com wrote: frans, The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged the CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's Stackato and Vmware' http://cloudfoundry.com cloudfoundry.com http://cloudfoundry.com The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in all it's variations, cloudfoundry runs and scales wells on OpenStack. Forks and extensions to the core project are to be expected and encouraged This is the bazaar effect of open source, the cloud foundry open source project has an active and vibrant Community - and makes it open for business as each variation meets the needs of different use cases. CloudFoundry.com http://CloudFoundry.com is VMware's publicly hosted PaaS that offers a subset of the languages available in the Open Source code base. Stackato delivers the software for Enterprise Private Clouds to install and manage their own Private PaaSes on-premise. We obviously have added alot of additional functionality to make Stackato secure and enable it to be easy to deploy on-premise. ActiveState's Stackato leverages cloudfoundry and a number of other open source projects in our commercial Private PaaS offering. We maintain API compatibility
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
thx Peter. awesome explaination i am working to list the CF cloud implementation, and seek which one become opensource again after modification (fork), or make it propietary. esp one of my friend that sell cloud services here just do roadshow today. promoting cloud for startup (my test it is using stackato) with Microsoft that promoting Azure. I love have a single CF which the edition can run on OpenStack. (esp VMWare is Sponsor for OpenStack summit also -- strange what is the positioning between vsphere and openstack --). i think the variety of CF and OpenStack, will bring more value to both community, esp I try to manage both community. still waiting Patrick Chanezone comment about this, because he is DIrector of Developer Relations in VMWare that spoke CloudFoundry Frans On 9/15/12, John Purrier j...@openstack.org wrote: Glad to see some discussion of PaaS and OpenStack on this list. The blog post that Frans linked to below is a very good overview of how we (AppFog) use, and contribute to, the Cloud Foundry open source project. What may not be apparent is that Cloud Foundry provides not only a starting point for building open PaaS solutions, but also an industry standard API. We have implemented CF on a variety of public infrastructures (RAX OpenStack, HP OpenStack, AWS) and have the capability of deploying to standardized private/on-prem cloud solutions (OpenStack based from Rackspace, Piston, Red Hat etc.; AWS compatible from Eucalyptus, etc.). With a standard API definition there is the opportunity to be much more inclusive in the PaaS solution space. For instance, AppFog not only supports Infrastructure Clouds as application targets, but also native Platform Clouds, such as Windows Azure. This is made possible through our partnership with Microsoft by building a Cloud Foundry API that translates to the native Windows Azure platform services. Going forward we believe that this will become more commonplace, and that the CF API will, in fact, be the defacto PaaS API. Huge opportunities open for cloud providers, IT departments, and developers once it is trivial to move application workloads from one cloud to another. Whether this is private/public hybrid and bursting scenarios, movement between private data centers to facilitate consolidation, or developers easily being able to leverage multiple cloud providers for HA/DR purposes… This is enabled by the common Platform API and services that the open Cloud Foundry PaaS project provides. This is not future stuff, it is happening now. Try it for free here: https://console.appfog.com/signup Create an app, find the clone button in the console, and copy the app to a different continent/provider with 1 click. Certainly if you are involved with OpenStack; as a developer, service provider, or IT professional, it is worth your while to take a look at the open source Cloud Foundry project: http://www.cloudfoundry.org . Providing an open PaaS over your OpenStack infrastructure will significantly help your developers and operational teams. John John Purrier Chief Technology Officer appfog.com http://www.appfog.com jpurr...@appfog.com j...@openstack.com About: johnpur http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnpur From: Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org Date: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:12 PM To: Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry and this is appfog. http://blog.cloudfoundry.org/2012/09/13/how-we-built-appfog-using-cloud-foun dry/ -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: yes, that why i found OpenPaaS (openpaas.or.id http://openpaas.or.id ), in conjuction with openstack-id inside openpaas we create cloudfoundry-id. and now try to learn and research the effect of cloudfoundry, and value proposition on openstack yes, we tested OpenStack + Stackato here, and tomorrow the cloud roadshow for startup just starting. hope Indonesia can bring new value in how PaaS value-ing the startup to more competitive Frans On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com wrote: frans, The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged the CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's Stackato and Vmware' http://cloudfoundry.com cloudfoundry.com http://cloudfoundry.com The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in all it's variations, cloudfoundry
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
frans, The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged the CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's Stackato and Vmware' cloudfoundry.com The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in all it's variations, cloudfoundry runs and scales wells on OpenStack. Forks and extensions to the core project are to be expected and encouraged This is the bazaar effect of open source, the cloud foundry open source project has an active and vibrant Community - and makes it open for business as each variation meets the needs of different use cases. CloudFoundry.com is VMware's publicly hosted PaaS that offers a subset of the languages available in the Open Source code base. Stackato delivers the software for Enterprise Private Clouds to install and manage their own Private PaaSes on-premise. We obviously have added alot of additional functionality to make Stackato secure and enable it to be easy to deploy on-premise. ActiveState's Stackato leverages cloudfoundry and a number of other open source projects in our commercial Private PaaS offering. We maintain API compatibility with CloudFoundry, we contribute back to the project, we've open sourced our client and continue to enhance our offerings. I'd encourage anyone in the OpenStack community to take a closer look at the cloud foundry project and get involved in helping to continue to ensure that it works well as an OpenPaaS for OpenStack. Diane Mueller Sent from my iPad On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking alternative to it shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage different way his cloudfoundry there are piston, stackato i hear appfog never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as platform i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is the best glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique innovation any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community program thx all Frans Thamura Meruvian ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
yes, that why i found OpenPaaS (openpaas.or.id), in conjuction with openstack-id inside openpaas we create cloudfoundry-id. and now try to learn and research the effect of cloudfoundry, and value proposition on openstack yes, we tested OpenStack + Stackato here, and tomorrow the cloud roadshow for startup just starting. hope Indonesia can bring new value in how PaaS value-ing the startup to more competitive Frans On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com wrote: frans, The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged the CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's Stackato and Vmware' http://cloudfoundry.comcloudfoundry.com The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in all it's variations, cloudfoundry runs and scales wells on OpenStack. Forks and extensions to the core project are to be expected and encouraged This is the bazaar effect of open source, the cloud foundry open source project has an active and vibrant Community - and makes it open for business as each variation meets the needs of different use cases. CloudFoundry.com is VMware's publicly hosted PaaS that offers a subset of the languages available in the Open Source code base. Stackato delivers the software for Enterprise Private Clouds to install and manage their own Private PaaSes on-premise. We obviously have added alot of additional functionality to make Stackato secure and enable it to be easy to deploy on-premise. ActiveState's Stackato leverages cloudfoundry and a number of other open source projects in our commercial Private PaaS offering. We maintain API compatibility with CloudFoundry, we contribute back to the project, we've open sourced our client and continue to enhance our offerings. I'd encourage anyone in the OpenStack community to take a closer look at the cloud foundry project and get involved in helping to continue to ensure that it works well as an OpenPaaS for OpenStack. Diane Mueller Sent from my iPad On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking alternative to it shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage different way his cloudfoundry there are piston, stackato i hear appfog never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as platform i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is the best glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique innovation any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community program thx all Frans Thamura Meruvian ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.netopenstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
and this is appfog. http://blog.cloudfoundry.org/2012/09/13/how-we-built-appfog-using-cloud-foundry/ -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: yes, that why i found OpenPaaS (openpaas.or.id), in conjuction with openstack-id inside openpaas we create cloudfoundry-id. and now try to learn and research the effect of cloudfoundry, and value proposition on openstack yes, we tested OpenStack + Stackato here, and tomorrow the cloud roadshow for startup just starting. hope Indonesia can bring new value in how PaaS value-ing the startup to more competitive Frans On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com wrote: frans, The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged the CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's Stackato and Vmware' http://cloudfoundry.comcloudfoundry.com The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in all it's variations, cloudfoundry runs and scales wells on OpenStack. Forks and extensions to the core project are to be expected and encouraged This is the bazaar effect of open source, the cloud foundry open source project has an active and vibrant Community - and makes it open for business as each variation meets the needs of different use cases. CloudFoundry.com is VMware's publicly hosted PaaS that offers a subset of the languages available in the Open Source code base. Stackato delivers the software for Enterprise Private Clouds to install and manage their own Private PaaSes on-premise. We obviously have added alot of additional functionality to make Stackato secure and enable it to be easy to deploy on-premise. ActiveState's Stackato leverages cloudfoundry and a number of other open source projects in our commercial Private PaaS offering. We maintain API compatibility with CloudFoundry, we contribute back to the project, we've open sourced our client and continue to enhance our offerings. I'd encourage anyone in the OpenStack community to take a closer look at the cloud foundry project and get involved in helping to continue to ensure that it works well as an OpenPaaS for OpenStack. Diane Mueller Sent from my iPad On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking alternative to it shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage different way his cloudfoundry there are piston, stackato i hear appfog never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as platform i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is the best glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique innovation any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community program thx all Frans Thamura Meruvian ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
and this is appfog. http://blog.cloudfoundry.org/2012/09/13/how-we-built-appfog-using-cloud-foundry/ -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: yes, that why i found OpenPaaS (openpaas.or.id), in conjuction with openstack-id inside openpaas we create cloudfoundry-id. and now try to learn and research the effect of cloudfoundry, and value proposition on openstack yes, we tested OpenStack + Stackato here, and tomorrow the cloud roadshow for startup just starting. hope Indonesia can bring new value in how PaaS value-ing the startup to more competitive Frans On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Diane Mueller ActiveState dia...@activestate.com wrote: frans, The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged the CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's Stackato and Vmware' http://cloudfoundry.comcloudfoundry.com The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in all it's variations, cloudfoundry runs and scales wells on OpenStack. Forks and extensions to the core project are to be expected and encouraged This is the bazaar effect of open source, the cloud foundry open source project has an active and vibrant Community - and makes it open for business as each variation meets the needs of different use cases. CloudFoundry.com is VMware's publicly hosted PaaS that offers a subset of the languages available in the Open Source code base. Stackato delivers the software for Enterprise Private Clouds to install and manage their own Private PaaSes on-premise. We obviously have added alot of additional functionality to make Stackato secure and enable it to be easy to deploy on-premise. ActiveState's Stackato leverages cloudfoundry and a number of other open source projects in our commercial Private PaaS offering. We maintain API compatibility with CloudFoundry, we contribute back to the project, we've open sourced our client and continue to enhance our offerings. I'd encourage anyone in the OpenStack community to take a closer look at the cloud foundry project and get involved in helping to continue to ensure that it works well as an OpenPaaS for OpenStack. Diane Mueller Sent from my iPad On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking alternative to it shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage different way his cloudfoundry there are piston, stackato i hear appfog never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as platform i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is the best glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique innovation any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community program thx all Frans Thamura Meruvian ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry
hi all we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking alternative to it shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage different way his cloudfoundry there are piston, stackato i hear appfog never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as platform i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is the best glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique innovation any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community program thx all Frans Thamura Meruvian ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
