[openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template

2013-12-19 Thread Qing Xin Meng 



I don't think these patches are conflicting.
I will continue to work on this patch.

https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34903/


Thanks!


Best Regards


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Hi Arnaud,

It's really good to know that your team are proposing the vcenter driver
with OVA+glance datastore backend support.  Thanks for sharing the
information.  OVA would be a good choice which will benefit users by
avoiding only use flat image limited from current driver.

But in my opinion, it may not conflict with deploying from template. From
an end user perpective, if there are already a set of templates within
vcenter, it's good for him to have openstack to deploy VM from it directly.
He can touch an empty image in glance only with the metadata pointing to
the template name.  And boot vm from it.  Also he can freely choose to
generate a *ova with vmdk stream file and placed in certain datastore and
deploy from VM from image location pointing to the datastore.  These are
two different usage scenarios per my understanding.

And to go further, if there are some mechnism, that openstack can sync
exsiting VM templates into Glance images.  It can make this function more
useful.




Best Regards
Zarric(Zhu Zhu)

From: Arnaud Legendre
Date: 2013-12-18 01:58
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template
Hi Qui Xing,



We are planning to address the vCenter template issue by levering the
OVF/OVA capabilities.
Kiran's implementation is tied to a specific VC and requires to add Glance
properties that are not generic.
For existing templates, the workflow will be:
. generate an *.ova tarball (containing the *.ovf descriptor + *.vmdk
stream-optimized) out of the template,
. register the *.ova as a Glance image location (using the VMware Glance
driver see bp [1]) or simply upload the *.ova to another Glance store,
. The VMware driver in Nova will be able to consume the *.ova (either
through the location or by downloading the content to the cache):  see bp
[2]. However, for Icehouse, we are not planning to actually consume the
*.ovf descriptor (work scheduled for the J/K release).


[1]
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/vmware-datastore-storage-backend

[2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-driver-ova-support


If you have questions about [1], please send me an email. For [2], please
reach vuil.



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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template

2013-12-19 Thread Zhu Zhu 
Hi Arnaud, 

It's really good to know that your team are proposing the vcenter driver with 
OVA+glance datastore backend support.  Thanks for sharing the information.  OVA 
would be a good choice which will benefit users by avoiding only use flat image 
limited from current driver. 

But in my opinion, it may not conflict with deploying from template. From an 
end user perpective, if there are already a set of templates within vcenter, 
it's good for him to have openstack to deploy VM from it directly.  He can 
touch an empty image in glance only with the metadata pointing to the template 
name.  And boot vm from it.  Also he can freely choose to  generate a *ova with 
vmdk stream file and placed in certain datastore and deploy from VM from image 
location pointing to the datastore.  These are two different usage scenarios 
per my understanding.  

And to go further, if there are some mechnism, that openstack can sync exsiting 
VM templates into Glance images.  It can make this function more useful. 




Best Regards
Zarric(Zhu Zhu)

From: Arnaud Legendre
Date: 2013-12-18 01:58
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template
Hi Qui Xing,



We are planning to address the vCenter template issue by levering the OVF/OVA 
capabilities.
Kiran's implementation is tied to a specific VC and requires to add Glance 
properties that are not generic.
For existing templates, the workflow will be:
. generate an *.ova tarball (containing the *.ovf descriptor + *.vmdk 
stream-optimized) out of the template,
. register the *.ova as a Glance image location (using the VMware Glance driver 
see bp [1]) or simply upload the *.ova to another Glance store,
. The VMware driver in Nova will be able to consume the *.ova (either through 
the location or by downloading the content to the cache):  see bp [2]. However, 
for Icehouse, we are not planning to actually consume the *.ovf descriptor 
(work scheduled for the J/K release).


[1]  
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/vmware-datastore-storage-backend
[2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-driver-ova-support 


If you have questions about [1], please send me an email. For [2], please reach 
vuil.




Thanks,
Arnaud





From: "Shawn Hartsock" 
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 

Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 9:37:34 AM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template



IIRC someone who shows up at 
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/VMwareAPI#Meetings is planning on 
working on that again for Icehouse-3 but there's some new debate on the best 
way to implement the desired effect. The goal of that change would be to avoid 
streaming the disk image out of vCenter for the purpose of then streaming the 
same image back into the same vCenter. That's really inefficient.


So there's a Nova level change that could happen (that's the patch you saw) and 
there's a Glance level change that could happen, and there's a combination of 
both approaches that could happen.


If you want to discuss it informally with the group that's looking into the 
problem I could probably make sure you end up talking to the right people on 
#openstack-vmware or if you pop into the weekly team meeting on IRC you could 
mention it during open discussion time.




On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Qing Xin Meng  wrote:

I saw a commit for Deploying from VMware vCenter template and found it's 
abandoned.
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34903 

Anyone knows the plan to support the deployment from VMware vCenter template?


Thanks!



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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template

2013-12-18 Thread bjzzu...@gmail.com 
Hi Arnaud, 

It's really good to know that your team are proposing the vcenter driver with 
OVA+glance datastore backend support.  Thanks for sharing the information.  OVA 
would be a good choice which will benefit users by avoiding only use flat image 
limited from current driver. 

But in my opinion, it may not conflict with deploying from template. From an 
end user perpective, if there are already a set of templates within vcenter, 
it's good for him to have openstack to deploy VM from it directly.  He can 
touch an empty image in glance only with the metadata pointing to the template 
name.  And boot vm from it.  Also he can freely choose to  generate a *ova with 
vmdk stream file and placed in certain datastore and deploy from VM from image 
location pointing to the datastore.  These are two different usage scenarios 
per my understanding.  

And to go further, if there are some mechnism, that openstack can sync exsiting 
VM templates into Glance images.  It can make this function more useful. 




Best Regards
Zarric(Zhu Zhu)

From: Arnaud Legendre
Date: 2013-12-18 01:58
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template
Hi Qui Xing,



We are planning to address the vCenter template issue by levering the OVF/OVA 
capabilities.
Kiran's implementation is tied to a specific VC and requires to add Glance 
properties that are not generic.
For existing templates, the workflow will be:
. generate an *.ova tarball (containing the *.ovf descriptor + *.vmdk 
stream-optimized) out of the template,
. register the *.ova as a Glance image location (using the VMware Glance driver 
see bp [1]) or simply upload the *.ova to another Glance store,
. The VMware driver in Nova will be able to consume the *.ova (either through 
the location or by downloading the content to the cache):  see bp [2]. However, 
for Icehouse, we are not planning to actually consume the *.ovf descriptor 
(work scheduled for the J/K release).


[1]  
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/vmware-datastore-storage-backend
[2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-driver-ova-support 


If you have questions about [1], please send me an email. For [2], please reach 
vuil.




Thanks,
Arnaud





From: "Shawn Hartsock" 
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 

Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 9:37:34 AM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template



IIRC someone who shows up at 
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/VMwareAPI#Meetings is planning on 
working on that again for Icehouse-3 but there's some new debate on the best 
way to implement the desired effect. The goal of that change would be to avoid 
streaming the disk image out of vCenter for the purpose of then streaming the 
same image back into the same vCenter. That's really inefficient.


So there's a Nova level change that could happen (that's the patch you saw) and 
there's a Glance level change that could happen, and there's a combination of 
both approaches that could happen.


If you want to discuss it informally with the group that's looking into the 
problem I could probably make sure you end up talking to the right people on 
#openstack-vmware or if you pop into the weekly team meeting on IRC you could 
mention it during open discussion time.




On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Qing Xin Meng  wrote:

I saw a commit for Deploying from VMware vCenter template and found it's 
abandoned.
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34903 

Anyone knows the plan to support the deployment from VMware vCenter template?


Thanks!



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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template

2013-12-17 Thread Arnaud Legendre 
Hi Qui Xing, 

We are planning to address the vCenter template issue by levering the OVF/OVA 
capabilities. 
Kiran's implementation is tied to a specific VC and requires to add Glance 
properties that are not generic. 
For existing templates, the workflow will be: 
. generate an *.ova tarball (containing the *.ovf descriptor + *.vmdk 
stream-optimized) out of the template, 
. register the *.ova as a Glance image location (using the VMware Glance driver 
see bp [1]) or simply upload the *.ova to another Glance store, 
. The VMware driver in Nova will be able to consume the *.ova (either through 
the location or by downloading the content to the cache): see bp [2]. However, 
for Icehouse, we are not planning to actually consume the *.ovf descriptor 
(work scheduled for the J/K release). 

[1] 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/vmware-datastore-storage-backend 
[2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-driver-ova-support 

If you have questions about [1], please send me an email. For [2], please reach 
vuil. 


Thanks, 
Arnaud 

- Original Message -

From: "Shawn Hartsock"  
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 9:37:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template 

IIRC someone who shows up at 
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/VMwareAPI#Meetings is planning on 
working on that again for Icehouse-3 but there's some new debate on the best 
way to implement the desired effect. The goal of that change would be to avoid 
streaming the disk image out of vCenter for the purpose of then streaming the 
same image back into the same vCenter. That's really inefficient. 

So there's a Nova level change that could happen (that's the patch you saw) and 
there's a Glance level change that could happen, and there's a combination of 
both approaches that could happen. 

If you want to discuss it informally with the group that's looking into the 
problem I could probably make sure you end up talking to the right people on 
#openstack-vmware or if you pop into the weekly team meeting on IRC you could 
mention it during open discussion time. 


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Qing Xin Meng < mengq...@cn.ibm.com > wrote: 





I saw a commit for Deploying from VMware vCenter template and found it's 
abandoned. 
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34903 

Anyone knows the plan to support the deployment from VMware vCenter template? 


Thanks! 



Best Regards 

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template

2013-12-16 Thread Shawn Hartsock 
IIRC someone who shows up at
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/VMwareAPI#Meetings is planning on
working on that again for Icehouse-3 but there's some new debate on the
best way to implement the desired effect. The goal of that change would be
to avoid streaming the disk image out of vCenter for the purpose of then
streaming the same image back into the same vCenter. That's really
inefficient.

So there's a Nova level change that could happen (that's the patch you saw)
and there's a Glance level change that could happen, and there's a
combination of both approaches that could happen.

If you want to discuss it informally with the group that's looking into the
problem I could probably make sure you end up talking to the right people
on #openstack-vmware or if you pop into the weekly team meeting on IRC you
could mention it during open discussion time.


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Qing Xin Meng  wrote:

> I saw a commit for Deploying from VMware vCenter template and found it's
> abandoned.
> *https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34903*
>
>
> Anyone knows the plan to support the deployment from VMware vCenter
> template?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
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[openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Deploy from vCenter template

2013-12-16 Thread Qing Xin Meng 



I saw a commit for Deploying from VMware vCenter template and found it's
abandoned.
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34903

Anyone knows the plan to support the deployment from VMware vCenter
template?


Thanks!



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