Re: [OpenStack-Infra] OpenDev git hosting migration and Gerrit downtime April 19, 2019

2019-04-17 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2019-04-17 11:22:19 -0400 (-0400), Clark Boylan wrote:
[...]
> This plan works for me. I did note a few items in the x/ namespace
> that probably do make sense under openstack/. We'll also need to
> make a decision on storyboard. Any suggestions for storyboard?
> fungi in particular may have thoughts on that.

I brought it up in IRC and seems like we're leaning toward wanting
storyboard repos in the opendev namespace (at least for the
foreseeable future):

http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23storyboard/%23storyboard.2019-04-17.log.html#t2019-04-17T15:42:47

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Re: [OpenStack-Infra] OpenDev git hosting migration and Gerrit downtime April 19, 2019

2019-04-17 Thread Clark Boylan


On Wed, Apr 17, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> James E. Blair wrote:
> > My understanding is this is due to openstack-infra being TC-governed and
> > opendev not quite having gotten around to establishing an official
> > non-TC governance yet.  I think the intent is to eventually do that.  We
> > could probably anticipate that a bit if we would like and go ahead and
> > sort openstack-infra things into different buckets.  At the end of this,
> > I think we will all have more hats, with overlap between opendev and
> > openstack.  Some current infra activities and repos are
> > openstack-specific and should be re-homed into openstack; others serve
> > all projects and should be in opendev; yet more are just things that are
> > incidentally related to what we do and should be on their own.
> > 
> > I've produced a list based on my estimation of what things will look
> > like at the end of the process.  This is just a starting point if we
> > would like to explore this option.  We could refine the list and use it,
> > or we could choose to stick with the status quo temporarily and move the
> > infra repos out of openstack at a later time when things are more clear.
> > 
> > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/6CmVhW40m0
> 
> I understand it conflates two separate issues (rename and governance), 
> and we clearly don't want to delay the rename due to premature 
> governance discussions.
> 
> My personal view on this is that we can split openstack-infra things 
> between openstack/ and opendev/ following your etherpad plan, and 
> officialize the governance part later. Technically, things split under 
> opendev/ would still be under the OpenStack infra team and the OpenStack 
> TC until the governance is officially split out. That avoids unnecessary 
> renames and crowding our new clean openstack/ space with stuff we know 
> will move away soon.
> 
> We'll obviously have to edit the projects.yaml to account for the repo 
> renames under the Infrastructure team, but we have to do that anyway.

This plan works for me. I did note a few items in the x/ namespace that 
probably do make sense under openstack/. We'll also need to make a decision on 
storyboard. Any suggestions for storyboard? fungi in particular may have 
thoughts on that.

Clark

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Re: [OpenStack-Infra] OpenDev git hosting migration and Gerrit downtime April 19, 2019

2019-04-17 Thread Thierry Carrez

James E. Blair wrote:

My understanding is this is due to openstack-infra being TC-governed and
opendev not quite having gotten around to establishing an official
non-TC governance yet.  I think the intent is to eventually do that.  We
could probably anticipate that a bit if we would like and go ahead and
sort openstack-infra things into different buckets.  At the end of this,
I think we will all have more hats, with overlap between opendev and
openstack.  Some current infra activities and repos are
openstack-specific and should be re-homed into openstack; others serve
all projects and should be in opendev; yet more are just things that are
incidentally related to what we do and should be on their own.

I've produced a list based on my estimation of what things will look
like at the end of the process.  This is just a starting point if we
would like to explore this option.  We could refine the list and use it,
or we could choose to stick with the status quo temporarily and move the
infra repos out of openstack at a later time when things are more clear.

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/6CmVhW40m0


I understand it conflates two separate issues (rename and governance), 
and we clearly don't want to delay the rename due to premature 
governance discussions.


My personal view on this is that we can split openstack-infra things 
between openstack/ and opendev/ following your etherpad plan, and 
officialize the governance part later. Technically, things split under 
opendev/ would still be under the OpenStack infra team and the OpenStack 
TC until the governance is officially split out. That avoids unnecessary 
renames and crowding our new clean openstack/ space with stuff we know 
will move away soon.


We'll obviously have to edit the projects.yaml to account for the repo 
renames under the Infrastructure team, but we have to do that anyway.


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Re: [OpenStack-Infra] OpenDev git hosting migration and Gerrit downtime April 19, 2019

2019-04-17 Thread James E. Blair
Thierry Carrez  writes:

> Clark Boylan wrote:
>> Fungi has generated a master list of project renames for the
>> openstack namespaces: http://paste.openstack.org/show/749402/. If
>> you have a moment please quickly review these planned renames for
>> any obvious errors or issues.
>
> One thing that bothers me is the massive openstack-infra/ ->
> openstack/ rename, with things like:
>
> openstack-infra/gerrit -> openstack/gerrit
>
> Shouldn't that be directly moved to opendev/gerrit? Moving it to
> openstack/ sounds like a step backward.

My understanding is this is due to openstack-infra being TC-governed and
opendev not quite having gotten around to establishing an official
non-TC governance yet.  I think the intent is to eventually do that.  We
could probably anticipate that a bit if we would like and go ahead and
sort openstack-infra things into different buckets.  At the end of this,
I think we will all have more hats, with overlap between opendev and
openstack.  Some current infra activities and repos are
openstack-specific and should be re-homed into openstack; others serve
all projects and should be in opendev; yet more are just things that are
incidentally related to what we do and should be on their own.

I've produced a list based on my estimation of what things will look
like at the end of the process.  This is just a starting point if we
would like to explore this option.  We could refine the list and use it,
or we could choose to stick with the status quo temporarily and move the
infra repos out of openstack at a later time when things are more clear.

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/6CmVhW40m0

-Jim

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Re: [OpenStack-Infra] OpenDev git hosting migration and Gerrit downtime April 19, 2019

2019-04-17 Thread Chris Dent

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019, Thierry Carrez wrote:


Clark Boylan wrote:
Fungi has generated a master list of project renames for the openstack 
namespaces: http://paste.openstack.org/show/749402/. If you have a moment 
please quickly review these planned renames for any obvious errors or 
issues.


One thing that bothers me is the massive openstack-infra/ -> openstack/ 
rename, with things like:


openstack-infra/gerrit -> openstack/gerrit

Shouldn't that be directly moved to opendev/gerrit? Moving it to openstack/ 
sounds like a step backward.


Yeah, agree, that does seem the wrong direction.

The impression I had was that one of the outcomes of this would be
that what's in openstack/* would be a more clear picture of the thing
which is OpenStack.

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Re: [OpenStack-Infra] OpenDev git hosting migration and Gerrit downtime April 19, 2019

2019-04-17 Thread Thierry Carrez

Clark Boylan wrote:

Fungi has generated a master list of project renames for the openstack 
namespaces: http://paste.openstack.org/show/749402/. If you have a moment 
please quickly review these planned renames for any obvious errors or issues.


One thing that bothers me is the massive openstack-infra/ -> openstack/ 
rename, with things like:


openstack-infra/gerrit -> openstack/gerrit

Shouldn't that be directly moved to opendev/gerrit? Moving it to 
openstack/ sounds like a step backward.


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Re: [OpenStack-Infra] OpenDev git hosting migration and Gerrit downtime April 19, 2019

2019-04-17 Thread Jens Harbott
On Wed, 2019-04-17 at 07:48 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> On 17/04/2019 02.14,  Clark Boylan  wrote:
> > The infra/OpenDev team continues to make good progress towards this
> > transition and plans to perform the transition on April 19, 2019 as
> > previously scheduled.  We will begin the transition at 15:00UTC and
> > users should plan for intermittent Gerrit and git repo outages
> > through the day. We expect most of those will be closer to 15:00UTC
> > than 23:00UTC.
> > 
> > Fungi has generated a master list of project renames for the
> > openstack namespaces: http://paste.openstack.org/show/749402/. If
> > you have a moment please quickly review these planned renames for
> > any obvious errors or issues.
> 
> I wonder about these three, are they missing in some governance repo
> list?
> 
> openstack/governance-website -> x/...
> openstack/interop-workloads -> x/interop-workloads
> openstack/openstack-map -> x/openstack-map

openstack/openstack -> x/openstack also seems unintended and possibly
confusing.

> > For the airship, starlingx, and zuul repo renames the repositories
> > listed at git.airshipit.org, git.starlingx.io, and git.zuul-ci.org
> > were used placing repos in airship/, starlingx/ and zuul/
> > namespaces. Any repo name prefix (like stx- and airship-) is
> > dropped.
> 
> Andreas


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