Re: [opensuse] CD-ROM mounting twice

2005-11-21 Thread Danny Kukawka
On Sunday 20 November 2005 17:06, Vincente Aggrippino wrote:
 The log message shows that it has been mounted twice.

No this log messages are left for debug. This is normal.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mount
 ...
 /dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
 (ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)
 /dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
 (ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)

This is not normal. What say your fstab in this case? And what say 
'cat /proc/mounts'?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ umount /media/dvdrecorder
 umount: it seems /media/dvdrecorder is mounted multiple times

Yes, look so.

 I don't know the difference between MOUNT_POINT and MOUNTPOINT,
 but I suspect that my DVD drive is in a configuration file somewhere
 twice.  I haven't been able to find documentation on this, though.

See above, this is normal.

 Does anyone have any idea how to configure hal?

Yes, but I think this is not a problem with hal. To be sure start 'lshal 
--monitor' and insert the cd. Wait 10 seconds and post the last lines after 
the monitor line.

What happens if you start udevmonitor and insert the CD?

Danny

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ FOSDEM 2006

2005-11-21 Thread Alexey Eremenko
A good thing to add would be openSUSE philosophy compared to Fedora project.
Otherwise some people don't see difference between those 2 projects.


Here are some possible topics, that are basis for discussion far:

 - presentations
 + openSUSE in general (what happend so far, what's up next)
 + openSUSE build infrastructure
 + SUSE Linux 10.1 - highlights and features
 - dicussion
 + SUSE Linux 10.2 - dicussion / plans for the future
 + Usability and Documentation
 - tutorials
 + packaging the SUSE-way
 + using the build infrastructure
 + LIVE CD construction
 + Customizing SUSE Linux




Re: [opensuse] open-exchange / tomcat issue

2005-11-21 Thread Daniel Bornkessel
Could you please post the tomcat5 log file? This would help to narrow down the 
problem.
It can be found at:

/usr/share/tomcat5/logs/catalina.out

Best Regards,
Daniel

 Hi.

 I've purchased the retail SUSE10.0 specifically to run open-exchange.
 However I'm not able to get it work. I've installed all the required
 RPMs followed all README in /usr/share/doc/packages but it does not work.

 I do get the open-exchange login page however when I login I get
 following error:

 Server error!
 The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your
 request. Either the server is overloaded or there was an error in a CGI
 script.
 The URL is
 http://192.168.10.2/servlet/intranet?SITE=beforeAuthsessionID=f3a04a36e03e
fa7d1cd1622116d06f9b


 I've narrowed it down to Tomcat! It is not starting! The rctomcat5 is
 not starting tomcat. Looking at bugzilla I've found some .pid issue
 which I've fixed to no avail. Even though tomcat starts java nothing is
 responding on 8080 and 8000 is not even listening!

 Any ideas?

 Thanks,
 Brano

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[opensuse] Failure to boot Asus P5GD2 Board with suse-10.0 CDs/DVDs

2005-11-21 Thread Bernd Melchers
Asus P5GD2-Premium Board
Pentium 640 CPU
PS/2 Keyboard Cherry RS 6000 M
ATi X600 Graphics Powercolor
SATA Maxtor 250 GB disk

I maintain some systems with the above configuration.
They boot flawlessly with Knoppix, suse-9.2 and Windows XP-CDs.
They work flawlessly with Knoppix, suse-9.2 and Windows XP.
But it is NOT possible to boot them with (suse-9.3 or) Suse-10
installation or live CDs or DVDs, neither x64 nor x32 versions.
I upgraded mb bios and DVD-Drive-Firmware, nothing helps.
I changed BIOS PnP/OS, ACPI-2 and APIC Options, nothing helps.

I see this:
I insert the optical medium, boot, the Bonjour-Screen appears. Then
when the grub boot menu appears, the keyboard is absolutely dead.
So it is not possible to select an boot option. Therefore, after the
time out, grub boots into the boot from harddisk-Menu-item (and get
I/O-Error or dies). I checked the MD5-Sum of the optical disks and
could use them to install other computer with other mainboards.
  
mit freundlichen Grüßen
Bernd Melchers

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Re: [opensuse] Missing NVidia scripts and AppArmor packages

2005-11-21 Thread SuSE UsER

Christian Boltz wrote:


Hello,

Am Montag, 21. November 2005 06:49 schrieb Aschwin Marsman:
[...]
 


Is it correct that AppArmor isn't currently part of openSUSE?

If so, the release notes are incorrect, 
   



They just don't differ between retail and OSS version.

 

if not how can I get it? 
   



Try install-source-extra on (a mirror of) ftp.suse.com


Regards,

Christian Boltz
 


AppArmor is not available for OSS edition.

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Re: [opensuse] Missing NVidia scripts and AppArmor packages

2005-11-21 Thread Aschwin Marsman
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, SuSE UsER wrote:
 Christian Boltz wrote:
 Am Montag, 21. November 2005 06:49 schrieb Aschwin Marsman:
 
  Is it correct that AppArmor isn't currently part of openSUSE?
  
  If so, the release notes are incorrect, 
 
 They just don't differ between retail and OSS version.

Then it would be nice if you can see in the release notes that
it's not applicable for the openSUSE version. No I spent some
time trying to find out where to find it whereas the person
who writes the release notes knows (I hope) that it's not
applicable.

  if not how can I get it? 
 
 Try install-source-extra on (a mirror of) ftp.suse.com

I have all usefull installation sources added already.
 
 AppArmor is not available for OSS edition.

Why? Is it closed source?

Best regards,

Aschwin Marsman

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Re: [opensuse] Request for Codenames for SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2

2005-11-21 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar
On Sunday 20 November 2005 20:44, Per Jessen wrote:
  Sehnsucht = Desire

Rammstein!

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Re: [opensuse] Request for Codenames for SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2

2005-11-21 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

On Sunday 20 November 2005 20:44, Per Jessen wrote:



Sehnsucht = Desire


Rammstein!


You mean: Hitler, third reich?
You are a lonely fool here, not even on a hill.

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[opensuse] Sound problem

2005-11-21 Thread Johan Ekh
Hi all,
I've installed SuSE 10 on my t42p IBM laptop.
Everything works except for my sound card. It is automatically
detected but generates no sound. It worked perfect under SuSE 9.3.
Does anyone know what I have to do?

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[opensuse] SYSV shared memory

2005-11-21 Thread Jim Bodkikns (Dakotacom)
Just curious. Has anyone seen any difference between the behaviour of SysV 
shared memory between the 32 and 64 bit versions? (Actually, it is 32 bit 
opensuse and 64 bit eval).




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Re: [opensuse] Sound problem

2005-11-21 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Johan Ekh wrote:


I've installed SuSE 10 on my t42p IBM laptop.
Everything works except for my sound card. It is automatically
detected but generates no sound. It worked perfect under SuSE 9.3.
Does anyone know what I have to do?


Maybe you simply have to adjust loudness above zero, using Yast2, 
hardware, sound card, but maybe you have to add some modprobe xxx 
at the start target of /etc/init.d/alsasound, like


  case $1 in
start)
  modprobe snd_atiixp
  if [ -d /proc/asound ]; then

here.

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Re: [opensuse] SYSV shared memory

2005-11-21 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi.

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Jim Bodkikns (Dakotacom) wrote:

Just curious. Has anyone seen any difference between the behaviour of SysV 
shared memory between the 32 and 64 bit versions? (Actually, it is 32 bit 
opensuse and 64 bit eval).


There may be an amount difference. Remember the total process address 
room of intel 32-bit architecture is only 4 GB.


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Re: [opensuse] Request for Codenames for SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2

2005-11-21 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar
On Monday 21 November 2005 23:38, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:
  On Sunday 20 November 2005 20:44, Per Jessen wrote:
  Sehnsucht = Desire
 
  Rammstein!

 You mean: Hitler, third reich?

No, as I am learning German, I recognized the word as the name of an album of 
the german band. Not sure what are you talking about, and I prefer to not 
know it.

 You are a lonely fool here, not even on a hill.

No comments.

Duncan


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Re: [opensuse] Request for Codenames for SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2

2005-11-21 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar
On Sunday 20 November 2005 23:35, Allen wrote:
 Lol I can't believe I made that mistake.It's not only more correct, my
 answer wasn't even proper. Sehnsucht ist longing. I always confuse it with
 desire. Thanks Rammstein lol.

Heh, I will have to relearn the meaning :-)

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Re: [opensuse] feature-request: Voting in Bugzilla

2005-11-21 Thread melkevizth

I second that notion. I have seen it happen, with Mozilla, where
something that I deem critical for me to use the program is deemed a
minor drawback by the developers. I would like to see something similar.

Thank You,

Mike E.

- Original Message -
From: Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, November 20, 2005 2:42 pm
Subject: [opensuse] feature-request: Voting in Bugzilla

 Hi all!
 
 The current openSUSE project's bugzilla has 1 serious drawback - no 
 votingsystem.
 
 Some problems might seems to be small by the development community,
 but turn out as serious issues for users.
 
 For this reason I ask you, the openSUSE project leaders to add a 
 votingsystem
 to openSUSE bugzilla, like in Mandriva, where users can vote for 
 problems/bugs/feature-requests, that must be solved first..
 
 A *Community* project needs this effective way to *communicate* 
 with its
 users.
 
 -Alexey Eremenko. 20.nov.2005.
 

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Re: [opensuse] Request for Codenames for SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2

2005-11-21 Thread Allen
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 11:38:22PM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:
 On Sunday 20 November 2005 20:44, Per Jessen wrote:
 
 Sehnsucht = Desire
 
 Rammstein!
 
 You mean: Hitler, third reich?
 You are a lonely fool here, not even on a hill.

The other guy may not want to know what you're talking about here but I do.
Sehnsucht has nothing to do with Hitler, neither does Rammstein.

If I said Bitburg, OK, but I didn't. Ich hab nicht gezagt.

-Allen
 
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Re: [opensuse] Request for Codenames for SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2

2005-11-21 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

On Monday 21 November 2005 23:38, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

On Sunday 20 November 2005 20:44, Per Jessen wrote:



Sehnsucht = Desire


Rammstein!


You mean: Hitler, third reich?


No, as I am learning German, I recognized the word as the name of an album of
the german band. Not sure what are you talking about, and I prefer to not
know it.


You are a lonely fool here, not even on a hill.


No comments.


Ok. Your silence is accepted.
The grounding matter is 60 years before, and Germany has learned by 
constitution (provoced by the allieds after second world war) and - much 
better, much more truly - by at least 35 years of government actions 
(since Willy Brandt).


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Re: [opensuse] Request for Codenames for SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2

2005-11-21 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Allen wrote:

On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 11:38:22PM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

On Sunday 20 November 2005 20:44, Per Jessen wrote:



Sehnsucht = Desire


Rammstein!


You mean: Hitler, third reich?
You are a lonely fool here, not even on a hill.


The other guy may not want to know what you're talking about here but I do.
Sehnsucht has nothing to do with Hitler, neither does Rammstein.

If I said Bitburg, OK, but I didn't. Ich hab nicht gezagt.


OK, I see that not all of us have mentioned all aspects here,
Dont't let us flame now, but revert to the center of OpenSUSE, and at 
least not prefer NAZI names now.

This is where the child meets the old man, and not vice versa.
It is crucial if the childs will insist.

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[opensuse] Re: Gnome mounting CD-ROM twice (was CD-ROM mounting twice)

2005-11-21 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
Gnome is doing it somehow! When I switched from Fedora, I was using Gnome,
so I have always used Gnome with SuSE. I tried out KDE and the problem
didn't occur. I switched back to Gnome and the problem's back.

So, I changed the subject of the email :) How does Gnome handle
auto-mounting devices? I can't find anything meaningful in Gnome Control
Center or in Gnome Configuration Editor.

I originally knew the drive was mounting twice, but I didn't know anything
about HAL because I've always used autofs/automount in the past. I tried to
troubleshoot the problem myself at first. The first place I looked was in
/var/log/messages. So, when I saw two mounting messages there from HAL, I
believed that was the culprit.

Please read below...

On 11/21/05, Danny Kukawka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 20 November 2005 17:06, Vincente Aggrippino wrote:
  The log message shows that it has been mounted twice.

 No this log messages are left for debug. This is normal.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mount
  ...
  /dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
  (ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)
  /dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
  (ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)

 This is not normal. What say your fstab in this case? And what say
 'cat /proc/mounts'?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda3 / reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 1
/dev/hda1 /boot reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 2
/dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/dvdrecorder subfs users,noauto,fs=cdfss,ro
,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy subfs noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync 0
0
none /subdomain subdomainfs noauto 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /home reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 2

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /proc/mounts
rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
initramfsdevs /dev tmpfs rw 0 0
/dev/hda3 / reiserfs rw 0 0
eventfs /lib/klibc/events tmpfs rw 0 0
proc /proc proc rw,nodiratime 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
/dev/hda1 /boot reiserfs rw 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /home reiserfs rw 0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy subfs rw,sync,nosuid,nodev 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/dvdrecorder subfs ro,nosuid,nodev 0 0

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ umount /media/dvdrecorder
  umount: it seems /media/dvdrecorder is mounted multiple times

 Yes, look so.

  I don't know the difference between MOUNT_POINT and MOUNTPOINT,
  but I suspect that my DVD drive is in a configuration file somewhere
  twice. I haven't been able to find documentation on this, though.

 See above, this is normal.

  Does anyone have any idea how to configure hal?

 Yes, but I think this is not a problem with hal. To be sure start 'lshal
 --monitor' and insert the cd. Wait 10 seconds and post the last lines
 after
 the monitor line.


You're right, it's not a problem with hal, but just in case...
*** lshal: device_added, udi='/org/freedesktop/Hal
/devices/volume_label_XP2_PER_ENG'
*** lshal: property_modified, udi=/org/freedesktop/Hal
/devices/volume_label_XP2_PER_ENG, key= volume.mount_point
is_removed=false, is_added=false
*** new value: '/media/dvdrecorder' (string)

*** lshal: property_modified, udi=/org/freedesktop/Hal
/devices/volume_label_XP2_PER_ENG, key=volume.is_mounted
is_removed=false, is_added=false
*** new value: true (bool)

What happens if you start udevmonitor and insert the CD?


udevmonitor only shows one message...
home:~ # udevmonitor
udevmonitor prints the received event from the kernel [UEVENT]
and the event which udev sends out after rule processing [UDEV]

UEVENT[1132621639] mount@/block/hdc

... but it's still mounted twice ...
home:~ # mount
...
/dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
(ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)
/dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
(ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)

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Re: [opensuse] Request for Codenames for SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2

2005-11-21 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar
On Tuesday 22 November 2005 00:53, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
 OK, I see that not all of us have mentioned all aspects here,
 Dont't let us flame now, but revert to the center of OpenSUSE, and at
 least not prefer NAZI names now.
 This is where the child meets the old man, and not vice versa.
 It is crucial if the childs will insist.

The word was never proposed as a codename. It was a comment about the 
sehensucht codename proposal, which most of the people understood.

Even if you missunderstood of the word has some special meaning for you, you 
can say it very politely and without adding adjectives to people.

Thanks.
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Re: [opensuse] no keyboard with KDE

2005-11-21 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
Problem solved!! Thanks Christian :)

I guess I'm a little late, though, since SuSE has now completely abandoned
KDE in favor of Gnome (-- WooHoo!!! Flames... Flames... I Love Flames!! :)
) ... heheh... just kidding... I haven't read any of the press releases and
I don't know anything about the status of SuSE and KDE.

On 11/21/05, Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Does anyone have any ideas where to look?

 Did you try logging in as a newly created test user?


This is what did it :) I really should have thought to try this sooner.

When I created the new user and logged in, everything worked fine. So, I
renamed the .kde directory in my own home directory so that it would be
re-created the next time I started KDE and everything worked fine :) I'm not
sure what could've been in there to break it because I haven't used KDE
before.

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Re: [opensuse] Request for Codenames for SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2

2005-11-21 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:


On Tuesday 22 November 2005 00:53, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

OK, I see that not all of us have mentioned all aspects here,
Dont't let us flame now, but revert to the center of OpenSUSE, and at
least not prefer NAZI names now.
This is where the child meets the old man, and not vice versa.
It is crucial if the childs will insist.


The word was never proposed as a codename. It was a comment about the
sehensucht codename proposal, which most of the people understood.

Even if you missunderstood of the word has some special meaning for you, you
can say it very politely and without adding adjectives to people.

Thanks.
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Re: [opensuse] Request for Codenames for SUSE Linux 10.1, 10.2

2005-11-21 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Duncan Mac-Vicar wrote:

On Tuesday 22 November 2005 00:53, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:



OK, I see that not all of us have mentioned all aspects here,
Dont't let us flame now, but revert to the center of OpenSUSE, and at
least not prefer NAZI names now.
This is where the child meets the old man, and not vice versa.
It is crucial if the childs will insist.


The word was never proposed as a codename. It was a comment about the
sehensucht codename proposal, which most of the people understood.

Even if you missunderstood of the word has some special meaning for you, you
can say it very politely and without adding adjectives to people.


Don't fool yourself, please.

Equalling sehnsucht in the sense mentioned here is nazi behaviour in my 
mind.
Show me your education if you do not see the evidence here, and maybe 
I'll forgive you your ignorance. But if not, I will struggle to see your 
blood spreading my floor (purely mentally, if you know to differ).


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Re: [opensuse] feature-request: Voting in Bugzilla

2005-11-21 Thread Marcel Mourguiart
2005/11/21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 I second that notion. I have seen it happen, with Mozilla, where
 something that I deem critical for me to use the program is deemed a
 minor drawback by the developers. I would like to see something similar.

 Thank You,

 Mike E.

 - Original Message -
 From: Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sunday, November 20, 2005 2:42 pm
 Subject: [opensuse] feature-request: Voting in Bugzilla

  Hi all!
 
  The current openSUSE project's bugzilla has 1 serious drawback - no
  votingsystem.
 
  Some problems might seems to be small by the development community,
  but turn out as serious issues for users.
 
  For this reason I ask you, the openSUSE project leaders to add a
  votingsystem
  to openSUSE bugzilla, like in Mandriva, where users can vote for
  problems/bugs/feature-requests, that must be solved first..
 
  A *Community* project needs this effective way to *communicate*
  with its
  users.
 
  -Alexey Eremenko. 20.nov.2005.
 

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Great idea

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Re: [opensuse] feature-request: Voting in Bugzilla

2005-11-21 Thread Mathias Homann
Am Sonntag, 20. November 2005 20:42 schrieb Alexey Eremenko:

 For this reason I ask you, the openSUSE project leaders to add a
 voting system
 to openSUSE bugzilla, like in Mandriva, where users can vote for
 problems/ bugs/feature-requests, that must be solved first..

like in kde bugzilla?


seconded.


bye,
MH

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Re: [opensuse] Failure to boot Asus P5GD2 Board with suse-10.0 CDs/DVDs

2005-11-21 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Bernd Melchers wrote:
 Asus P5GD2-Premium Board
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Hallo Bernd

Please submit your issue to suse-linux-e
There are a lot more people on that list, which means a lot more chances to 
help you with your
problem (it just doesn't help splitting such mails between the two lists).

This list is to discuss the openSUSE community.

Thanks for your understanding.

cheers
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Re: [opensuse] guru smart lacks gtk gui

2005-11-21 Thread Aschwin Marsman
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Pascal Bleser wrote:
 Aschwin Marsman wrote:

Thanx for your quick reply.

  smart-0.40-12.guru.suse100 doesn't seam to contain a gui, whereas
  previous versions did have the gtk gui:
 
 I changed the package structure to comply with other distributions.

That's a very good reason for a change.

  smart --gui
  error: Interface 'gtk' not available
  
  Is this intended?
 
 Yes.
 Install the smart-gui package:
 http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/packages/System/smart/smart-gui-0.40-12.guru.suse100.i686.rpm

Some smart advertising ;-):

8---8---8---8--8
# smart install smart-gui
Loading cache...
Updating cache... # 
[100%]

Computing transaction...

Installed packages (1):
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69.4kB of package files are needed. 304.4kB will be used.

Confirm changes? (Y/n): y

Fetching packages...
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http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/.../smart-gui-0.40-12.guru.suse100.i686.rpm
smart-gui-0.40-12.guru.suse100... # 
[100%]


Committing transaction...
Preparing...  # 
[  0%]
 1:Installing smart-gui 
# [100%]

Saving cache...

8---8---8---8--8

 It has the advantage of a hard requirement for python-gtk.

That's a very good reason also for a change.
 
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Re: [opensuse] Missing NVidia scripts and AppArmor packages

2005-11-21 Thread Aschwin Marsman
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Karl Eichwalder wrote:
 Aschwin Marsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Then it would be nice if you can see in the release notes that
  it's not applicable for the openSUSE version. No I spent some
  time trying to find out where to find it whereas the person
  who writes the release notes knows (I hope) that it's not
  applicable.
 
 I guess it works as follows: Release Notes are covering SL 10.0 and
 there are no specialized SL OSS 10.0 Release Notes.  I'm not that sure
 whether it is worth filing a feature request for SL OSS RNs.  Maybe, a

I'm not asking for a separate release note, but an indication if a package
is only available for non openSUSE.

 wiki page would be sufficient.

Why create a new page for that? You will have redundant data, that's 
asking for inconsistency. If you want separate release notes I would
create one master release note and create specialized versions with
e.g. a shell script.

I stil don't know if AppArmor is proprietary software...

Best regards,

Aschwin Marsman

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Re: [opensuse] Missing NVidia scripts and AppArmor packages

2005-11-21 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Aschwin Marsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm not asking for a separate release note, but an indication if a package
 is only available for non openSUSE.

I don't know whether SL customers would appreciate some such solution.

 Why create a new page for that? You will have redundant data, that's 
 asking for inconsistency. If you want separate release notes I would
 create one master release note and create specialized versions with
 e.g. a shell script.

We'd do this using an XML profiling mechanism.  The technology is
already in place and we use it for differentiating SLES vs. SL or
hardware architecuture.

That's why you could file are feature request ;)

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Re: [opensuse] Missing NVidia scripts and AppArmor packages

2005-11-21 Thread Randall R Schulz
Aschwin,

On Monday 21 November 2005 23:48, Aschwin Marsman wrote:
 ...

 I stil don't know if AppArmor is proprietary software...

It is, and the version included with the SuSE 10 retail package is a 
limited edition, meaning it that it can only be applied to a 
restricted, pre-defined set of applications.

A trivial bit of Web searching would disclose these things.


 Best regards,

 Aschwin Marsman


Randall Schulz

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