[opensuse-announce] openSUSE Status meeting from 22 August moved to 29 August
A large number of people usually taking part on the irc meeting are not available today. So we will move the discussion to next weeks tuesday. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * KDE-BASIS * KDE-Devel * KDE-Edutainment * KDE-Games * KDE-Help * KDE-IMAGE * KDE-Internet * KDE-Multimedia * KDE-Office * KDE-System * KDE-Utilities What about kdesdk (Kbabel,etc)? Will it be part of KDE-Devel? Yes, that's what I would propose. The packages are not added all yet. That's what we did in the past. I'd rather vote to classify a translation tools as Office or Productivity stuff. LaTeX needs a place, I'm not sure yet where. Productivity ;) In the past it was part of SGML/XML and LaTeX AKA Textprocessing tools. Of course, you can do much more with these tools. -- Karl Eichwalder RD / Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH Key fingerprint = B2A3 AF2F CFC8 40B1 67EA 475A 5903 A21B 06EB 882E - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] permissions for sound, dvd, etc
Andreas píše v Po 21. 08. 2006 v 12:05 -0700: I would like to change the default permissions for the sound devices and the removable media. Right now (10.2 Alpha 3) the first user wins, meaning whoever logs on first gets the exclusive rights on the devices. Not very user friendly, except when you're the first one. I figured it's got to be somewhere between udev, hal, resmgr and PolicyKit. Perhaps with pam also involved? Or is there another mechanism I didn't even think of (yet)? pam_devperm does it for X sessions: /etc/pam.d/gdm /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin /etc/pam.d/xdm -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12tel: +420 284 028 966 190 00 Praha 9fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republichttp://www.suse.cz/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Cannot install openSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 on Itanium (hwinfo-related crash)
Hi, I tried a network installation of current openSUSE build (hosted on oss.sgi.com) on my hp workstation zx6000 but the installation process crashes just after downloading the root image. Here are the logs that I captured with a camera since this display is quickly replaced by a big red square telling me that the installation process failed: starting hald... ok starting syslogd (logging to /dev/tty4)... ok Starting ia32el starting yast... hal.1: read hal data/usr/lib/YaST2/startup/First-Stage/F02-hwinfo: line 10: 2388 Segmentation fault (core dumped) /usr/sbin/hwinfo --special=x11 Probing connected terminal... Initializing virtual console... Unfortunately, once the red square replaces this screen, the keyboard is disabled, so I'm not able to swith to console tty4 to see the logs. I've performed several attempts. No luck. Using the safe settings or a textmode install didn't help. IIRC, the last working root image was dated around Aug. 15th. Is this problem also noticed on other architectures? If not, what can I try to help debug the installation process on Itanium? Thanks, Émeric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] permissions for sound, dvd, etc
On Monday 21 August 2006 21:05, Andreas wrote: I would like to change the default permissions for the sound devices and the removable media. Right now (10.2 Alpha 3) the first user wins, meaning whoever logs on first gets the exclusive rights on the devices. Not very user friendly, except when you're the first one. That's not the case. All users logged in via console or xdm have access to sound devices thanks to resmgr (provided that the kernel supports ACLs on /dev). Mounting of removeable media is likely broken due to PolicyKit not beeing properly integrated yet, that's a problem unrelated to device permissions. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Development V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Test of Factory
Hi, I wanted finally to have a look at the factory 'release' and contribute with some bug reports (possibly). So my first question: - What's the best way in your eyes to get to the latest factory release? - Can I just install a 10.1 as used and then add the factory inst-source as a repository? A 'rug up' will then most probably install a lot of updated packages. Would this work for tests or will the machine be in a 'strange' state after this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Symbolic link /media/cdrom
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 19:44 schrieb JP Rosevear: On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 18:33 +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote: Am Montag, 21. August 2006 18:27 schrieb Tobias Burnus: Hello, Marcel Hilzinger schrieb: set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The link should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD. /media/SUSE_LINUX_10.1 is cool, but its hard to work with CDs on command line and writing documentation for Suse is also very hard. So please let's become cd /media/cdrom true for Suse Linux 10.2. Konqueror,etc should/can still show the label of the disk. I always though this was the case since 10.0: It is mounted to /media/device (device could be dvdram, cdrom, cdwriter etc.) and there is a symbolic link from /media/LABEL to /media/device. That's true for 10.0, but not for 10.1. That's why I suggest to always keep the simple /media/cdrom The intermezzo with /media/cdrwriter, /media/dvdram, /media/dvdwriter was not very successful I guess. Coolo: Please ask also the documentation team. It's really hard to write docu for Suse Linux if you cannot tell users, where CDs/DVDs will be mounted! In SLE at least, and presumably in 10.2, there are udev rules which should handle this (works on SLE), see /etc/udev/rules.d/65-cdrom.rules It's nice, that you want to help me, but I need no help in this case. My suggestion was thought to make SL 10.2 better usable _by alls users_, not by myself. Best regards, Marcel -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Test of Factory
* Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Aug 22. 2006 12:34]: Hi, I wanted finally to have a look at the factory 'release' and contribute with some bug reports (possibly). So my first question: - What's the best way in your eyes to get to the latest factory release? - Can I just install a 10.1 as used and then add the factory inst-source as a repository? A 'rug up' will then most probably install a lot of updated packages. Would this work for tests or will the machine be in a 'strange' state after this? It depends ;-) If version downgrades are involved (i.e. a package moving from a datum to a sane numbering scheme in its version: foo-20060501-1 - foo-1.0-1), a simple 'rug up' won't help you. You have to boot from the install medium and run system upgrade in YaST. YaST prefers packages from the upgrade repository and takes the buildtime into account. During development of a new distribution, package upgrades might also fail due to errors in %pre/%post scripts. So be prepared to some manual work. Klaus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Test of Factory
Dinar Valeev [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/22/06 1:36 PM i think you need install latest alpha and then update this to factory. Using Factory inst_source On 8/22/06, Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanted finally to have a look at the factory 'release' and contribute with some bug reports (possibly). So my first question: - What's the best way in your eyes to get to the latest factory release? - Can I just install a 10.1 as used and then add the factory inst-source as a repository? A 'rug up' will then most probably install a lot of updated packages. Would this work for tests or will the machine be in a 'strange' state after this? Thank you very much, I'll give it a try this week. Regards, Dominique - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] upGrading upcomgi releases
Hi, Maybe I'm on the wrong place for this, but it might be interesting even here: Let's assume the following (I think a not so uncommon scenario): - A user installs a openSuSE Version 10.1 - He changes the installation repositories to something like ftp://mirror.suse.de/pub/SL-Stable/inst-source and adds also ftp://mirror.suse.de/pub/SL-Stable/non-oss-inst-source Now come's one of the trickier parts: The upudate repo is pointing to: ftp://mirror.suse.de/update/10.1 What will happen when openSUSE 10.2 get's the 'stable' Distribution an dwill thus be linked in place of 10.1? ZMD will most probably install many packages from 10.2 (maybe even wished by the user) but the link to the update repo will still point to 10.1. The same problem is with MOST external repos, as most of them also contain the version number in the path. Could there something be implemented to have it point to a URL like: ftp://mirror.suse.de/update /%OSS-VERSION%, thus updating the links upon a relink of the stable tree? Regards, Dominique - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have
Having a defined CORE has its merits, Andreas Required (must have packages): .. yast2 yast2-bootloader yast2-core yast2-country etc etc May I ask why all YaST-packages are required. My cutlist is not great cause those packages are indeed required but why is ea yast2-dns-server required? Or am I walking on the wrong road? Azerion - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Cannot install openSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 on Itanium (hwinfo-related crash)
Émeric Maschino [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I tried a network installation of current openSUSE build (hosted on oss.sgi.com) on my hp workstation zx6000 but the installation process crashes just after downloading the root image. Here are the logs that I captured with a camera since this display is quickly replaced by a big red square telling me that the installation process failed: starting hald... ok starting syslogd (logging to /dev/tty4)... ok Starting ia32el starting yast... hal.1: read hal data/usr/lib/YaST2/startup/First-Stage/F02-hwinfo: line 10: 2388 Segmentation fault (core dumped) /usr/sbin/hwinfo --special=x11 Probing connected terminal... Initializing virtual console... Unfortunately, once the red square replaces this screen, the keyboard is disabled, so I'm not able to swith to console tty4 to see the logs. I've performed several attempts. No luck. Using the safe settings or a textmode install didn't help. IIRC, the last working root image was dated around Aug. 15th. Is this problem also noticed on other architectures? If not, what can I try to help debug the installation process on Itanium? Yes, seen on other archs as well - hope to be fixed with installation images from 2006-08-23 or newer, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpO5aymOiaBR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] permissions for sound, dvd, etc
El Martes, 22 de Agosto de 2006 01:50, Ludwig Nussel escribió: That's not the case. All users logged in via console or xdm have access to sound devices thanks to resmgr (provided that the kernel supports ACLs on /dev). Mounting of removeable media is likely broken due to PolicyKit not beeing properly integrated yet, that's a problem unrelated to device permissions. Ludwig, without tweaking anything, right after a vanilla installation, the devices /dev/dsp and everything in /dev/snd has the permissions 0600 for the first user who logs in. subsequently logged in users do *not* have any sound. Actually, a KDE session for such users starts with an error Message from arts about the default device being busy. Xine-ui or any other player with direct access to e.g. alsa also sheds an error message about the sound device. After manually changing the file permissions in /dev sound works for the other users too, as expected. If this is not the default behaviour (as I thought), should I file a bug report? -- Gruß Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] permissions for sound, dvd, etc
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 08:22:01AM -0700, Andreas wrote: El Martes, 22 de Agosto de 2006 01:50, Ludwig Nussel escribió: That's not the case. All users logged in via console or xdm have access to sound devices thanks to resmgr (provided that the kernel supports ACLs on /dev). Mounting of removeable media is likely broken due to PolicyKit not beeing properly integrated yet, that's a problem unrelated to device permissions. Ludwig, without tweaking anything, right after a vanilla installation, the devices /dev/dsp and everything in /dev/snd has the permissions 0600 for the first user who logs in. subsequently logged in users do *not* have any sound. Actually, a KDE session for such users starts with an error Message from arts about the default device being busy. Xine-ui or any other player with direct access to e.g. alsa also sheds an error message about the sound device. After manually changing the file permissions in /dev sound works for the other users too, as expected. If this is not the default behaviour (as I thought), should I file a bug report? Check if they have ACLs. (+ in ls -l output). Alpha3 is known to have bugs here, so you can open a bugreport. Ciao, Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed!
Perhaps this is all going to be fixed in 10.2 since 10.1 was obviously very bad, but just to make sure, I would like to clarify and state some of my opinions on what needs to go or become better integrated. First of all having what seems to be so many different ways to manage packages is becomming ridiculous and I'm hoping something's going to be done to standardize on one. Syncronizing all of them has to be crazy. Zen is just horrible right now imo. Its so unconfigurable and the interface to install packages just seems way to simplistic. One can hardly find out information on the package..it just basically seems to be searching through a list. Not only that but most packages are shown twice or more depending on repositories and updates! I do not know why it can't be done like synaptic and keep one package and then being able to update (I think yast does it this way too). I had no idea what exactly to click and how it would work out! It needs to be trimmed down to only showing the package ONCE which would be the latest and if not allow one to upgrade. I just really am not liking zen right now at all. I do not know why they couldn't have just continued to improve the speed of yast and keep suseplugger also. Second is the ridiculous amount of packages that are installed on first installation. Perhaps trim down default GNOME and KDE desktop choices like Ubuntu does (basically good packages from each, can install more later). The system after first boot shouldnt be more then 2GB imo. I know I can configure packages in Yast manually and I guess I'll probably just have to go through that annoying task for now on. and Finally, and this is my big peeve. FIX THE FREAKIN MENUS! The organization takes WAY too much time and maybe it won't matter if slab is integrated but we do not need categories and then ANOTHER category and then 5 different web browsers! Why the heck was konqueror installed when I selected GNOME as my DE in the installation and no where did I install KDE! Seamonkey was also installed WTH! Basically we do not need second level categories and 5 different web browser and terminal apps (ESPECIALLY WHEN I SELECTED GNOME AS THE DE), sorry that is my major pet peeve right now. Its ridiculous that when one selects the defaults that they are given 5-10 of everything. Please PLEASE PLEASE Clean it up! Please don't mistake my tone. I'm considering a move back to suse because I like the polish and yast and such, but 10.1 (and some parts were from 10 and back) is making me and my computer feel very bloated and like I have to maintain a beast. I know 10.1 was a bad apple, but hopefully this stuff is vastly cleared up. -- Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] permissions for sound, dvd, etc
El Martes, 22 de Agosto de 2006 09:11, Marcus Meissner escribió: Check if they have ACLs. (+ in ls -l output). Alpha3 is known to have bugs here, so you can open a bugreport. Ciao, Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No ACL's. ls -l output: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls -l /dev/audio /dev/*dsp /dev/mixer /dev/snd/* crw--- 1 andreas audio 14, 12 2006-08-22 21:26 /dev/adsp crw--- 1 andreas audio 14, 4 2006-08-22 21:26 /dev/audio crw--- 1 andreas audio 14, 3 2006-08-22 21:26 /dev/dsp crw--- 1 andreas audio 14, 0 2006-08-22 21:26 /dev/mixer crw--- 1 andreas audio 116, 9 2006-08-22 14:26 /dev/snd/controlC0 crw--- 1 andreas audio 116, 8 2006-08-22 14:26 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c crw--- 1 andreas audio 116, 7 2006-08-22 14:26 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p crw--- 1 andreas audio 116, 6 2006-08-22 14:26 /dev/snd/pcmC0D1c crw--- 1 andreas audio 116, 5 2006-08-22 14:26 /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c crw--- 1 andreas audio 116, 4 2006-08-22 14:26 /dev/snd/pcmC0D3c crw--- 1 andreas audio 116, 3 2006-08-22 14:26 /dev/snd/pcmC0D4p crw--- 1 andreas audio 116, 10 2006-08-22 21:26 /dev/snd/seq crw--- 1 andreas audio 116, 2 2006-08-22 14:26 /dev/snd/timer I filed a bug report at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=201055 -- HTH Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] gaim segfaults at startup.
Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/22/06 9:25 AM Filed as BUG #200704 Did somebody experience this problem too? I can' believe to be the only one :-) Text of filed report: -- On my installation of SuSE Linux 10.1, gaim segfaults upon startup. Current Version of gaim installed: gaim-1.5.0-50 (from SuSE FTP Updates) Message on the command line: *** Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file. This is a bug in the software and has happened through no fault of your own. If you like you can test ftp://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-jengelh/SUSE-10.1/i586/gaim-1.5.0-68.jen1.i586.rpm Thank you very much, I'll give it a try. But I think it still should be kept as a bug in the original system. Thank you Dominique - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] rpm's do not recognize system architechure
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Michael Schroeder wrote:
14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm -q --queryformat
'%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64
Ah, a user of 'smart'. Smart automatically installs all architectures it
can find for a package, effectively breaking them. Please deinstall
'rpm.i586' and reinstall 'rpm.x86_64'.
FALSE! You are mixing up yum with smart!
Regards
Christoph
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Re: [opensuse] gaim segfaults at startup.
If you like you can test ftp://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-jengelh/SUSE-10.1/i586/gaim-1.5.0-68.jen1.i586.rpm Thank you very much, I'll give it a try. But I think it still should be kept as a bug in the original system. Of course, since mine is just based off theirs, I do not actually expect the bug to go away suddenly :p Jan Engelhardt -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] rpm's do not recognize system architechure
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
On 2006-08-21 14:22:08 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm -q --queryformat
'%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64
maybe another fuckup due the smart bug. :|
What makes you think smart is the one to blame?
Regards
Christoph
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Re: [opensuse] rpm's do not recognize system architechure
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 09:47, Christoph Thiel wrote: Ah, a user of 'smart'. Smart automatically installs all architectures it can find for a package, effectively breaking them. Please deinstall 'rpm.i586' and reinstall 'rpm.x86_64'. FALSE! You are mixing up yum with smart! AFAIK installing packages of different architectures must be allowed. If things break due to this, it's the contents of the packages that are broken and not the package manager.. -- // Janne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] rpm's do not recognize system architechure
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 09:50, Christoph Thiel wrote:
'%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64
maybe another fuckup due the smart bug. :|
What makes you think smart is the one to blame?
Installing packages of different architectures should be allowed if
this was requested. In many cases this is a necessity. Runtime linker
should not see 'wrong' libraries.
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// Janne
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Re: [opensuse] rpm's do not recognize system architechure
Hi, Janne Karhunen schrieb: AFAIK installing packages of different architectures must be allowed. Why must? If things break due to this, it's the contents of the packages that are broken and not the package manager.. I really wonder how it could happen that both architectures were installed. smart does _not_ do that automagically. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
On 8/22/06, Carl Hartung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you booted to rescue and checked the consistency of the filesystem(s)? Is '/home' on it's own partition? separate partitions for: /dev/sdb6 /home /dev/sdb7 /srv /dev/sdb5 / fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb6 fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb5 fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb7 no errors Alternatively, have you tried running the installation system's 'Repair' facility and allowed it to run all the tests? yes, ran *all* tests, no problem reported :^( ps, I'm nearly ready to reinstall (4th time, but first since July 4). Can I reinstall w/o formatting and save my home, web setup and added utilities under / ??? Is that considered an upgrade? tks, -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
10:47 wahoo:/usr/bin # ls -lan `which man` -rwsr-xr-x 2 0 0 7176 Apr 22 23:36 /usr/bin/man 10:48 wahoo:/usr/bin # ls -la `which man` -rwsr-xr-x 2 root root 7176 Apr 22 23:36 /usr/bin/man 11:00 wahoo:/home/patrick # su patrickme/patrick # su: /bin/zsh: Permission denied ls -l `which su` /bin/zsh id patrick ls -dl /home/patrick getfacl /home/patrick Jan Engelhardt -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 16:21, Jan Engelhardt wrote: BUT, still unable to login as anything other than root. FLASH, root does not have access to man files (???): 10:04 wahoo:~ # man setfacl execve: Permission denied man is executed as user 'man'. On my system, /usr/bin/man is suid root It may also be worthwhile to make sure things like SElinux or AppArmor aren't running for example, if AppArmor is running but the profiles have been corrupted, this sort of thing can easily happen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
Hi,
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
14:15 wahoo:~ # ls -dl /home /
drwxr-xr-x 26 root root 4096 Aug 22 10:40 /
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Aug 22 11:03 /home
Patrick, you are spending hours and hours trying to fix permissions, but
I'm not sure that your login problem is caused by broken permissions at all.
The problem arised when rpm.i586 was installed on your x86_64 system.
rpm.i586 was installed for a reason, because you did not request it
explicitly.
It must have been installed as a dependency of some other i586 package,
and this i586 package might have pulled in more undesired i586 packages.
I recommend investigating in this direction.
What is the output of the command
rpm -qa --queryformat '%{NAME}.%{ARCH}\n' | grep 'i.86'
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Re: [opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 13:18, Patrick Shanahan wrote: ps, I'm nearly ready to reinstall (4th time, but first since July 4). Can I reinstall w/o formatting and save my home, web setup and added utilities under / ??? Is that considered an upgrade? If I were facing the same problem I'd probably reinstall to get the system running again. I'd also try hard to avoid repeating whatever my last serious mistake was. ;-) YMMV, of course... it probably *is* recoverable. Question is, how much time are you willing to invest in that process? If you have space on sdb6 (/home) to store copies of your current /etc and /srv (under ~/.etc and ~/.srv,) you can omit sdb6 and sdb7 from the installation process and install the entire system on /dev/sdb5. Don't forget to erase the contents of sdb5 by hand, first, to ensure you're starting from a 'clean slate.' You can then rename the newly created /home and /srv directories (to /.home and /.srv,) restore the relevant lines from your original fstab (backup the newly created fstab for safe-keeping) and mount the original /home and /srv dedicated partitions. You'll have to 'hunt and peck' to compare/massage /etc to match the contents of ~/.etc, as needed. However, if and when it 'blows up' again, you can always revert back to the just-installed configuration and try restoring things one at a time. Good luck! Carl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
On 8/22/06, Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cat /proc/mounts is anything mounted noexec, or some other strange flag? 15:11 wahoo:~ # cat /proc/mounts rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 udev /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 /dev/sdb5 / ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 proc /proc proc rw 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0 /dev/hde15 /mnt/e15 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/sdb6 /home ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/sdb7 /srv ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/b1 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/b5 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdb6 /mnt/b6 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hde10 /mnt/e10 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hde11 /mnt/e11 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hde12 /mnt/e12 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hde13 /mnt/e13 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hde14 /mnt/e14 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hde1 /mnt/e1_winC vfat rw,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/hde5 /mnt/e5_winD vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,gid=100,fmask=0002,dmask=0002,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,utf8 0 0 /dev/hde6 /mnt/e6 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hde7 /mnt/e7 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hde8 /mnt/e8 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hde9 /mnt/e9 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdf10 /mnt/f10-photo_6 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdf5 /mnt/f5 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdf6 /mnt/f6-photo_2 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdf7 /mnt/f7-photo_3 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdf8 /mnt/f8-photo_4 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdf9 /mnt/f9-photo_5 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdg5 /mnt/g5 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdg6 /mnt/g6 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdg7 /mnt/g7 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/hdg8 /mnt/g8 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/sda5 /mnt/sa5 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/sda6 /mnt/sa6 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 /dev/sda7 /mnt/sa7 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0 nothing appears out of the ordinary ?? tks, -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] x86_64 perl in /usr/lib ?
Hi list, Trying to install some software that looks for perl on my suse 10.1 box. Because it is an x86_64 box and the perl rpm is an x86_64 rpm the software I am trying to install is looking for /usr/lib64/perl5 and not /usr/lib/perl5 which is where the x86_64 perl rpm is actually installed. What would I break if I just did something like this? ln -s /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/lib64/ Why is the x86_64 perl rpm installed in /usr/lib and not /usr/lib64? Thanks Rene -- - -- Rene Salmon Tulane University Center for Computational Science http://www.ccs.tulane.edu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel 504-862-8393 Tel 504-988-8552 Fax 504-862-8392 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
On 8/22/06, Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my system, /usr/bin/man is suid root mine is too It may also be worthwhile to make sure things like SElinux or AppArmor aren't running they are not. tks, -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
On 8/22/06, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Patrick, you are spending hours and hours trying to fix permissions, but
I'm not sure that your login problem is caused by broken permissions at all.
The problem arised when rpm.i586 was installed on your x86_64 system.
rpm.i586 was installed for a reason, because you did not request it
explicitly.
It must have been installed as a dependency of some other i586 package,
and this i586 package might have pulled in more undesired i586 packages.
I recommend investigating in this direction.
What is the output of the command
rpm -qa --queryformat '%{NAME}.%{ARCH}\n' | grep 'i.86'
15:18 wahoo:~ # rpm -qa --queryformat '%{NAME}.%{ARCH}\n' | grep 'i.86'
libdaemon.i586
rar.i586
OpenOffice_org-gnome.i586
compat-readline4.i586
netdiag.i586
libdvdcss2.i386
wine.i586
java-1_4_2-sun.i586
Azureus.i586
acroread.i586
libmpeg2.i686
helix-dbus-server.i586
wmii.i586
libsvg.i586
gtkhtml.i586
GTorrentViewer.i586
java-1_4_2-sun-plugin.i586
java-1_4_2-gcj-compat.i586
unrar.i586
twolame.i586
calc.i686
RealPlayer.i586
boost.i586
winetools.i586
faad2.i586
libsigc++2.i586
MPlayer-w32codecs.i586
fox16.i586
remind.i386
java-1_4_2-sun-alsa.i586
rtorrent.i586
python-cairo.i586
flash-player.i586
libtorrent.i586
pwlib.i586
iscan.i586
libmpcdec-SSE.i686
antivir.i586
faac.i586
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin.i586
textmaker.i586
calculator.i586
bashdb.i586
kdebase3-nsplugin.i586
opal.i586
OpenOffice_org-kde.i586
cairo.i586
dbus-1.i586
xvid-SSE.i686
MozillaFirefox-translations.i586
libsvg-cairo.i586
OpenOffice_org.i586
libdts-SSE.i686
suse_jen-release.i586
shutterbug.i586
w32codec-all.i586
darkice.i586
master-boot-code.i586
MozillaFirefox.i586
qca.i586
libmp4v2.i586
planmaker.i586
java-1_4_2-sun-jdbc.i586
lame-SSE.i686
dosbootdisk.i586
Azureus-libswt3-gtk2.i586
dbus-1-mono.i586
15:22 wahoo:~ #
15:22 wahoo:~ #
15:22 wahoo:~ # rpm -qa --queryformat '%{NAME}.%{ARCH}\n' | grep 'i.86'
libdaemon.i586
rar.i586
OpenOffice_org-gnome.i586
compat-readline4.i586
netdiag.i586
libdvdcss2.i386
wine.i586
java-1_4_2-sun.i586
Azureus.i586
acroread.i586
libmpeg2.i686
helix-dbus-server.i586
wmii.i586
libsvg.i586
gtkhtml.i586
GTorrentViewer.i586
java-1_4_2-sun-plugin.i586
java-1_4_2-gcj-compat.i586
unrar.i586
twolame.i586
calc.i686
RealPlayer.i586
boost.i586
winetools.i586
faad2.i586
libsigc++2.i586
MPlayer-w32codecs.i586
fox16.i586
remind.i386
java-1_4_2-sun-alsa.i586
rtorrent.i586
python-cairo.i586
flash-player.i586
libtorrent.i586
pwlib.i586
iscan.i586
libmpcdec-SSE.i686
antivir.i586
faac.i586
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin.i586
textmaker.i586
calculator.i586
bashdb.i586
kdebase3-nsplugin.i586
opal.i586
OpenOffice_org-kde.i586
cairo.i586
dbus-1.i586
xvid-SSE.i686
MozillaFirefox-translations.i586
libsvg-cairo.i586
OpenOffice_org.i586
libdts-SSE.i686
suse_jen-release.i586
shutterbug.i586
w32codec-all.i586
darkice.i586
master-boot-code.i586
MozillaFirefox.i586
qca.i586
libmp4v2.i586
planmaker.i586
java-1_4_2-sun-jdbc.i586
lame-SSE.i686
dosbootdisk.i586
Azureus-libswt3-gtk2.i586
dbus-1-mono.i586
tks,
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Re: [opensuse] x86_64 perl in /usr/lib ?
Rene Salmon schrieb: Because it is an x86_64 box and the perl rpm is an x86_64 rpm the software I am trying to install is looking for /usr/lib64/perl5 and not /usr/lib/perl5 which is where the x86_64 perl rpm is actually installed. This package is obviously neither a SUSE package nor built for SUSE. What would I break if I just did something like this? ln -s /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/lib64/ Not much, probably. But it's ugly. If the package makes this wrong assumption about the filesystem layout, it might make more of them. Why is the x86_64 perl rpm installed in /usr/lib and not /usr/lib64? Because that's where perl belongs. perl has its own multiarch directory hierarchy below /usr/lib/perl5, so there is simply no need to install it into /usr/lib64 instead of /usr/lib. Using /usr/lib64 instead of /usr/lib for perl would even be counter-productive because it would make all perl modules architecture dependent. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] x86_64 perl in /usr/lib ?
Thanks. Got it. I will fix the software to look for perl in the right place. Rene Andreas Hanke wrote: Rene Salmon schrieb: Because it is an x86_64 box and the perl rpm is an x86_64 rpm the software I am trying to install is looking for /usr/lib64/perl5 and not /usr/lib/perl5 which is where the x86_64 perl rpm is actually installed. This package is obviously neither a SUSE package nor built for SUSE. What would I break if I just did something like this? ln -s /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/lib64/ Not much, probably. But it's ugly. If the package makes this wrong assumption about the filesystem layout, it might make more of them. Why is the x86_64 perl rpm installed in /usr/lib and not /usr/lib64? Because that's where perl belongs. perl has its own multiarch directory hierarchy below /usr/lib/perl5, so there is simply no need to install it into /usr/lib64 instead of /usr/lib. Using /usr/lib64 instead of /usr/lib for perl would even be counter-productive because it would make all perl modules architecture dependent. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
Hi,
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
15:18 wahoo:~ # rpm -qa --queryformat '%{NAME}.%{ARCH}\n' | grep 'i.86'
Thanks.
That looks like too much, but none of the packages in the list looks
suspicious enough to me to explain the login problem - sorry.
Andreas Hanke
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Re: [opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
Hi,
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Andreas Hanke wrote:
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
15:18 wahoo:~ # rpm -qa --queryformat '%{NAME}.%{ARCH}\n' | grep 'i.86'
Thanks.
That looks like too much, but none of the packages in the list looks
suspicious enough to me to explain the login problem - sorry.
pwlib?
Cheers -e
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Re: [opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
Hi, Eberhard Moenkeberg schrieb: pwlib? That's what I thought initially, but it's not even installed at all on my system and I can login just fine ;-) Andreas Hanke - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 21:39, Andreas Hanke wrote: Hi, Eberhard Moenkeberg schrieb: pwlib? That's what I thought initially, but it's not even installed at all on my system and I can login just fine ;-) Why on earth would the Portable Window library have anything to do with logging in http://www.openh323.org/docs/PWLib/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
Anders Johansson schrieb: Why on earth would the Portable Window library have anything to do with logging in http://www.openh323.org/docs/PWLib/ Because PW sounds a little bit like PassWord unless you know what it is (which I don't). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: home directory access problems, permissions???
Hi, On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Andreas Hanke wrote: Eberhard Moenkeberg schrieb: pwlib? That's what I thought initially, but it's not even installed at all on my system and I can login just fine ;-) It has runtime libs: turion:0 21:45:23 ~ # rpm -ql pwlib /usr/lib64/libpt_linux_x86_64_r.so.1 /usr/lib64/libpt_linux_x86_64_r.so.1.10 /usr/lib64/libpt_linux_x86_64_r.so.1.10.1 /usr/lib64/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.1.9.1 /usr/lib64/pwlib /usr/lib64/pwlib/devices /usr/lib64/pwlib/devices/sound /usr/lib64/pwlib/devices/sound/alsa_pwplugin.so /usr/lib64/pwlib/devices/sound/oss_pwplugin.so /usr/lib64/pwlib/devices/videoinput /usr/lib64/pwlib/devices/videoinput/v4l2_pwplugin.so /usr/lib64/pwlib/devices/videoinput/v4l_pwplugin.so turion:0 21:46:50 ~ # vaio:0 21:46:17 ~ # rpm -ql pwlib /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.1 /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.1.10 /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.1.10.1 /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.1.9.1 /usr/lib/pwlib /usr/lib/pwlib/devices /usr/lib/pwlib/devices/sound /usr/lib/pwlib/devices/sound/alsa_pwplugin.so /usr/lib/pwlib/devices/sound/oss_pwplugin.so /usr/lib/pwlib/devices/videoinput /usr/lib/pwlib/devices/videoinput/v4l2_pwplugin.so /usr/lib/pwlib/devices/videoinput/v4l_pwplugin.so vaio:0 21:46:40 ~ # Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Yast2 package descriptors missing
Suse 10.1 on a Dell laptop. Using Smart package manager, Smart keeps saying that Yast2 package descriptors are not installed. How do I get them? Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
