Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[M Harris]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 19:49, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> I have one. The problem did not exist from 10.2 alpha5 onward until the
> GM release.
>
> It's not a hardware problem.
I agree with *you* Schulz, but as you pointed out earlier, MBs are 
relatively 
inexpensive... if it were me, seriously, I'd dump the ASUS board... I mean, 
why fight the problem.  You can install a new board in that thing first thing 
next week and have it up and running before anyone at bugzilla has poured 
their first cup of coffee. I kept searching after we spoke earlier about this 
and I am finding scads of hits that are not making the ASUS P5B look too 
good... several are regarding the IDE chip, and several are specifically 
regarding the memory. Sounds like the board really isn't worth the trouble 
you're having with it.

 
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Re: [opensuse] Finding which version of a driver is installed?

[M Harris]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 21:11, Thomas Miller wrote:
> I am trying to figure out which version of a driver is being used.  I am
> a windows guy, so be nice ;-)
ok

Which driver?  (module)

Please be more specific.

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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Felix Miata]

On 2006/12/09 21:32 (GMT-0800) Randall R Schulz apparently typed:

> On Saturday 09 December 2006 20:49, Felix Miata wrote:

>> Could be the difference for you between RC1 and final is telling you
>> something about your hardware rather than about your OS.

> What is the logic in that? Why are you trying to make this a hardware 

I like to think hardware manufacturers who aren't openly against open
source software do their own testing with Linux, to ensure they aren't
doing anything to create situations like the one you're in. Support
isn't necessarily only what you think it is.

> problem, when the hardware works just fine? There clearly was a 
> regression in the kernel and / or a module.

I'm not making anything. I read the whole thread. It does clearly seem
to be a regression. It's just that things that seem to be clear are
sometimes just an illusion of clarity. Maybe it worked because of some
previously needed kludge found to be no longer necessary by those in
power to so decide, without benefit of facts in your possession only.

Maybe the right place to ask, and time to expect a helpful reply, lie
after the weekend, and on the factory list or bugzilla.
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 DVD problem

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 08:52 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
>   
>> Bob S wrote:
>> 
>>> Did a ktorrent on 10.2 64bit. Downloaded 3.7G and md5sums seem to be OK.
>>>   
>>>   
>> Seemed?  Did it pass the Data Integrity Test?
>> 
I mean here, it either passes or fails.  It either was OK, or it
wasn't.  If it wasn't checked against the online md5sum, then at least
the Data Integrity Test will verify every chunk, and redownload any
chunks that fail.
>>> How can I tell if I burned a bootable DVD?
>>>   
>>>   
>> Yast, Software, Check Media.
>> 
>
>   Not to hijack the thread, but could you expand on that a bit?  I'm
> running 10.0 and I use that function of YaST to check install media, but
> it doesn't actually tell me what the md5sum it arrives at is.
>   
That check doesn't tell you the md5sum, but it does verify the media
against something on the disk, and will give an OK if it is correct.  I
am not sure exactly how it works, but I do know it does work very well,
and will work for an even newer versions discs.


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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Randall R Schulz]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 20:49, Felix Miata wrote:
> ...
>
> > As far as I'm concerned, the vendor support issue is a red herring.
>
> If someday you are confronted with a product for which the only
> recourse is a warranty claim perhaps you will understand the support
> issue.

Here's one way to look at it: I make well over $100 per hour. Mainboards 
cost maybe a couple hundred dollars. So it's rarely worth my time to 
try to get anything from a vendor. (Not to mention the fact that I 
absolutely hate the telephone.) If I don't choose well in purchasing a 
mainboard, then at least I can learn something more about how to choose 
next time.


> Could be the difference for you between RC1 and final is telling you
> something about your hardware rather than about your OS.

What is the logic in that? Why are you trying to make this a hardware 
problem, when the hardware works just fine? There clearly was a 
regression in the kernel and / or a module.

If you don't have any information that is actually an answer to the 
question I asked, don't feel compelled to reply to my posts.


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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 DVD problem

[Mike McMullin]

On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 08:52 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> Bob S wrote:
> > Did a ktorrent on 10.2 64bit. Downloaded 3.7G and md5sums seem to be OK.
> >   
> Seemed?  Did it pass the Data Integrity Test?
> > How can I tell if I burned a bootable DVD?
> >   
> Yast, Software, Check Media.

  Not to hijack the thread, but could you expand on that a bit?  I'm
running 10.0 and I use that function of YaST to check install media, but
it doesn't actually tell me what the md5sum it arrives at is.

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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Felix Miata]

On 2006/12/09 20:32 (GMT-0800) Randall R Schulz apparently typed:

> And what sort of support does one really ever need from the 
> manufacturer? I've never had a need to contact a mainboard vendor or 
> get anything from them that could not be gotten from the Internet. I've 
> had SuperMicro, MSI, Intel and ASUS mainboards (and Macs). All I've 
> ever needed post-installation is new BIOS firmware, and that's always 
> available via the Internet.

For some, good luck never seems to end.

> As far as I'm concerned, the vendor support issue is a red herring.

If someday you are confronted with a product for which the only recourse
is a warranty claim perhaps you will understand the support issue.

Could be the difference for you between RC1 and final is telling you
something about your hardware rather than about your OS.
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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Randall R Schulz]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 18:19, Felix Miata wrote:
> ...
>
> The Asus URL I provided is not about product engineering quality. The
> problem is about the sufficiency of manufacturer support for those in
> the unfortunate circumstance of needing it while not being a windoz
> user.

And what sort of support does one really ever need from the 
manufacturer? I've never had a need to contact a mainboard vendor or 
get anything from them that could not be gotten from the Internet. I've 
had SuperMicro, MSI, Intel and ASUS mainboards (and Macs). All I've 
ever needed post-installation is new BIOS firmware, and that's always 
available via the Internet. (And I've never needed to contact Apple for 
Mac support, either, and I've had more of them than I've had Intel PCs 
running Linux or Windows.)

As far as I'm concerned, the vendor support issue is a red herring.


And lastly, my question was about the "agpgart" and "intel_agp" modules, 
which I still need to understand so I can deal with the problem in the 
latest 10.2 kernel.

E.g., if I have a nVidia board (and no mainboard graphics), do I need 
the agpgart and / or intel_agp kernel modules at all? And if not, how 
can I suppress them so I can reenable memory mapping and regain use of 
my system's RAM above 3GB?


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Re: [opensuse] Installing RAID 5

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

Thomas Miller wrote:
> I want to setup a RAID 5.  I have 4 250GB drivers.  One currently has
> SUSE 10.2 / Xen installed.
>
> I tried installing the RAID right off the bat, but it didn't work. 
> The install always died.
> So I installed everything without the RAID configuration and it  went
> great.  Now I am ready to create the RAID 5 and would like some
> advise.  I plan on using the RAID to store the  VM files  for Xen. 
> I tried it with an LVM and without, both failed.  Could it be that I
> need an updated NVIDIA driver?
No, your nvidia graphics has nothing to do with it, and the chipset
drivers (I assume you are talking about) are a part of the kernel.  You
can find out some info about them by modinfo , i.e.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> lsmod | grep nv
sata_nv30084  0
libata145056  1 sata_nv
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> /sbin/modinfo sata_nv
filename:  
/lib/modules/2.6.18.2-34-default/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_nv.ko
author: NVIDIA
description:low-level driver for NVIDIA nForce SATA controller
license:GPL
version:2.0
vermagic:   2.6.18.2-34-default SMP mod_unload gcc-4.1
supported:  yes
depends:libata
alias:  pci:v10DEd008Esv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd00E3sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd00EEsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd0054sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd0055sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd0036sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd003Esv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd0266sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd0267sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd037Esv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd037Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd03E7sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd03F6sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd03F7sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd045Csv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd045Dsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd045Esv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd045Fsv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd*sv*sd*bc01sc01i*
alias:  pci:v10DEd*sv*sd*bc01sc04i*
srcversion: 88AC448C3ACCC091E623943

You can also get info about your hardware via /sbin/lspci and even more
info for the driver module by examining the kernel sources.  HTH.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing RAID 5

[John Andersen]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 18:19, Thomas Miller wrote:
> I want to setup a RAID 5.  I have 4 250GB drivers.  One currently has
> SUSE 10.2 / Xen installed.
>
> I tried installing the RAID right off the bat, but it didn't work.  The
> install always died.
>
> So I installed everything without the RAID configuration and it  went
> great.  Now I am ready to create the RAID 5 and would like some advise.
> I plan on using the RAID to store the  VM files  for Xen.
>
> I tried it with an LVM and without, both failed.  Could it be that I
> need an updated NVIDIA driver?

I presume you mean software raid 5?

First, although it is possible to get the root on raid, its a whole lot
easier not to.

That leave you with 3 drives.  With raid 5 you will get n-1 worth
of space, so you will get 2x250meg of raid 5 space.

Now how are they cabled? You don't want any two of them
on the same header.  Performance will be degraded if you do.
How much?  Hard to say.  Like every thing else in linux there is
a great deal of hand wringing over this issue.

But assuming you have at least 3 controllers on the machin
you should be good to go. 

Lots of good howto articles on the web, many quite old.
Try here:
http://www.networknewz.com/2003/0113.html

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Re: [opensuse] hard drive problem, help, please

[Doug McGarrett]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 22:02, Carl Hartung wrote:
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 21:36, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> > I'm having a problem with a setup using 2 hard drives.
> > hda is XP, hdb is Suse 10.0.  If both drives are
> > connected, something is telling the bios that there are NO
> > hard drives connected.  If I disconnect hdb, I get
> > a message that the primary hard drive has been
> > detected.  Then when the system tries to boot I
> > get a grub failure error.  I really don't need Linux on that
> > machine.  How can I get the machine to boot into XP
> > without the grub boot error, with the second drive disconnected?
> > I am also having trouble with the CD player on that machine,
> > so it's problematical if I can boot off a CD.  (I don't have
> > any kind of backup disk for XP, as far as I remember.)
> > I could have done this with an old Windows, with fdisk mbr,
> > off of a floppy, but I don't know what XP wants.
> >
> > --doug
>
> Doug,
>
> This is a SUSE-centric list. It isn't very good form to ask questions here
> about solving XP problems. This is definitely an XP problem if you're not
> intending to recover/preserve your SUSE installation. That being said:

Well, I don't think that the problem is really XP--the problem is grub.  If I
had never loaded SuSE and grub, the machine would boot.  But if it's really
unhappy for you guys, I apologize.  I don't know where else to ask.
>
> Go to  and research how to restore/reinstall
> the system's XP boot menu.
>
> If you Google, you will quickly find many XP boot diskette images available
> that you can transfer to floppy and use to boot into XP. If you've
> installed XP's command line 'recovery console' in parallel with the system,
> you won't need the original CD to run the console and
> recover/rebuild/restore the XP boot manager.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Carl
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Re: [opensuse] Emergency CD?

[Basil Chupin]

Thomas Miller wrote:

Is there anyway to make an emergency CD?  I don't have 7 floppies :-)



QUOTE

On Monday 27 November 2006 16:24, Basil Chupin wrote:

Hi,

> > Following the instructions in the Manual I created a boot CD on the
> > assumption that it will boot me into my installed system in the same
> > manner that is done from the Installation CD/DVD (but without having
> > to go thru all the rigmarole of selecting the language etc.).

yes, it boots you directly into the installed system just as if you
would have installed GRUB on your harddisk.

> > Booting the CD only gives me the grub> prompt but I expected to be
> > actually booted into my system -- or am I expecting too much?
> >
> > I suspect that I have incorrectly specified the CD as the device from
> > which to boot. Here is the menu.lst which I included for the iso
> > image - is the reference to the CD correct, please? My CD-ROM is
> > /dev/hdb.

No the reference should be (cd) as stated in the manual.

However, I took this post as a cause to have a closer look at the manual
(I am maintaining the GRUB chapter) and unfortunately found
errors ;-((. Here is the correct recipe:

1 Change into a directory in which to create the ISO image, for example:
  cd /tmp

2 Create a subdirectory for GRUB:
  mkdir -p iso/boot/grub

3 Copy the kernel, the files stage2_eltorito, initrd, menu.lst, and
  message to iso/boot/:

  cp  /boot/vmlinuz iso/boot/
  cp  /boot/initrd iso/boot/
  cp  /boot/message iso/boot/
  cp  /usr/lib/grub/stage2_eltorito iso/boot/grub
  cp  /boot/grub/menu.lst iso/boot/grub

4 Adjust the path entries in iso/boot/grub/menu.lst to make them point
  to a CD-ROM device. Do this by replacing the device name of the hard
  disks, listed in the format (hd*), in the pathnames with the device
  name of the CD-ROM drive, which is (cd):

  timeout 8
  default 0
  gfxmenu (cd)/boot/message

  title Linux
  root (cd)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 vga=794 resume=/dev/hda1 \
  splash=verbose showopts
  initrd /boot/initrd

  Use splash=silent instead of splash=verbose to prevent the boot
  messages from showing up during the boot procedure.

5 Create the ISO image with the following command:

  mkisofs -R -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito -no-emul-boot \
  -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o grub.iso /tmp/iso

6 Write the resulting file grub.iso to a CD using your preferred
  utility. Do not burn the iso image as data file, but use the “Burn CD
  Image� option of your burning utility.

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Re: [opensuse] unsubscribe

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On Saturday 09 December 2006 21:41, Bruce Marshall wrote:
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 22:28, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > Yes but this poster is using "Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20060911)" as his
> > client. I try to watch which client they are using and ignore the
> > requests from people using M$ products.
>
> Why should their email client be a problem now since the unsubcribe has
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Client is used as indicator of user knowledge ;-)
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Re: [opensuse] Emergency CD?

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Thomas Miller wrote:
> Is there anyway to make an emergency CD?  I don't have 7 floppies :-)
>
There are many Linux rescue CD images available.  Google to find some. 
You might also consider the SUSE LiveDVD.

What are "floppies"?  ;-)

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[opensuse] Emergency CD?

[Thomas Miller]

Is there anyway to make an emergency CD?  I don't have 7 floppies :-)

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[opensuse] Installing RAID 5

[Thomas Miller]

I want to setup a RAID 5.  I have 4 250GB drivers.  One currently has 
SUSE 10.2 / Xen installed.


I tried installing the RAID right off the bat, but it didn't work.  The 
install always died. 

So I installed everything without the RAID configuration and it  went 
great.  Now I am ready to create the RAID 5 and would like some advise.  
I plan on using the RAID to store the  VM files  for Xen.  

I tried it with an LVM and without, both failed.  Could it be that I 
need an updated NVIDIA driver?


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[opensuse] Finding which version of a driver is installed?

[Thomas Miller]

I am trying to figure out which version of a driver is being used.  I am 
a windows guy, so be nice ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] hard drive problem, help, please

[Carl Hartung]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 21:36, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> I'm having a problem with a setup using 2 hard drives.
> hda is XP, hdb is Suse 10.0.  If both drives are
> connected, something is telling the bios that there are NO
> hard drives connected.  If I disconnect hdb, I get
> a message that the primary hard drive has been
> detected.  Then when the system tries to boot I
> get a grub failure error.  I really don't need Linux on that
> machine.  How can I get the machine to boot into XP
> without the grub boot error, with the second drive disconnected?
> I am also having trouble with the CD player on that machine,
> so it's problematical if I can boot off a CD.  (I don't have
> any kind of backup disk for XP, as far as I remember.)
> I could have done this with an old Windows, with fdisk mbr,
> off of a floppy, but I don't know what XP wants.
>
> --doug

Doug,

This is a SUSE-centric list. It isn't very good form to ask questions here 
about solving XP problems. This is definitely an XP problem if you're not 
intending to recover/preserve your SUSE installation. That being said:

Go to  and research how to restore/reinstall the 
system's XP boot menu.

If you Google, you will quickly find many XP boot diskette images available 
that you can transfer to floppy and use to boot into XP. If you've installed 
XP's command line 'recovery console' in parallel with the system, you won't 
need the original CD to run the console and recover/rebuild/restore the XP 
boot manager.

Good luck!

Carl
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Re: [opensuse] hard drive problem, help, please

[Wade Jones]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 20:36, Doug McGarrett wrote:
 I'm having a problem with a setup using 2 hard drives.
 hda is XP, hdb is Suse 10.0.  If both drives are
 connected, something is telling the bios that there are NO
 hard drives connected.  If I disconnect hdb, I get
 a message that the primary hard drive has been
 detected.  Then when the system tries to boot I
 get a grub failure error.  I really don't need Linux on that
 machine.  How can I get the machine to boot into XP
 without the grub boot error, with the second drive disconnected?
 I am also having trouble with the CD player on that machine,
 so it's problematical if I can boot off a CD.  (I don't have
 any kind of backup disk for XP, as far as I remember.)
 I could have done this with an old Windows, with fdisk mbr,
 off of a floppy, but I don't know what XP wants.

 --doug



Perhaps the drive detection issue is caused by the setting of the master/slave 
jumpers on the drives?

AFAIK, FDISK /MBR works for all versions of Windows. 

You can also boot the recovery console (if you have the XP media) and run 
FIXMBR. [though it sounds like this may not be possible for you.]



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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 hangs in install

[Magnus Boman]

>>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2006 at 12:28 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andreas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I tried "Install without acpi" and even "Inst. safe- mode" without 
> getting further.
> 
> Any proposals please ?
> 
Try without acpi, but also add maxcpus=0

Cheers,
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[opensuse] hard drive problem, help, please

[Doug McGarrett]

I'm having a problem with a setup using 2 hard drives.
hda is XP, hdb is Suse 10.0.  If both drives are
connected, something is telling the bios that there are NO
hard drives connected.  If I disconnect hdb, I get
a message that the primary hard drive has been 
detected.  Then when the system tries to boot I
get a grub failure error.  I really don't need Linux on that
machine.  How can I get the machine to boot into XP
without the grub boot error, with the second drive disconnected?
I am also having trouble with the CD player on that machine,
so it's problematical if I can boot off a CD.  (I don't have
any kind of backup disk for XP, as far as I remember.)
I could have done this with an old Windows, with fdisk mbr,
off of a floppy, but I don't know what XP wants.  

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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Felix Miata]

On 2006/12/10 01:49 (GMT) Ryouga Hibiki apparently typed:

>From: Felix Miata Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:51:56 -0500

>>I gave up on Asus years ago:
>>http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html

> Interesting note, a bit peculiar because in openSuSE webpage many mainboards 
> that work well with Linux are Asus: 
> http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Main_Boards#ATX
> In Linux-Hardware.org happens the same: 
> http://www.linux-hardware.org/hardware/liste2.php?hersteller=asus&geraet=&kategorie=Mainboard
> not the same with MSI: 
> http://www.linux-hardware.org/hardware/liste2.php?hersteller=MSI&geraet=&kategorie=Mainboard

> Nope, I'm not looking for fight I just would like to have a good mainboard 
> that will have zero problems with Linux, any recomendations are welcome. =)

I've bought new boards made Asus, Biostar, PC Chips, Tyan, AOpen, Intel,
FIC, Abit, Soyo, & Giga-Byte according to total feature set, only one
portion of which is manufacturer reputation. Counting those acquired
used, I've used boards from virtually every manufacturer. Everyone makes
some bad ones. Sometimes the only problem is a BIOS defect, which ought
to be easy to fix, but sometimes never happens. ATM my 2 24/7 systems
are based on Intel 478 & 775 chips on PC Chips and Abit boards with
Intel chipsets.

> PS: Is it like, most Linux users test Asus Mainboards? are those mainboards 
> so common? Here the most common are MSI and PCChips =/
> PS2: 29.5% of DVD ISO yah for me ^^; 3 more days =P~

The Asus URL I provided is not about product engineering quality. The
problem is about the sufficiency of manufacturer support for those in
the unfortunate circumstance of needing it while not being a windoz user.
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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Bernhard Walle]

* Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-12-10 02:49]:
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 16:51, Felix Miata wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > I gave up on Asus years ago:
> 
> Blah, blah, blah.
> 
> I have one. The problem did not exist from 10.2 alpha5 onward until the 
> GM release.

So which was the last Beta / RC that worked? Can you enter a Bugzilla.
I don't see an entry for openSUSE for this bug. Did I miss one?


Regards,
 Bernhard


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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Randall R Schulz]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 16:51, Felix Miata wrote:
> ...
>
> I gave up on Asus years ago:

Blah, blah, blah.

I have one. The problem did not exist from 10.2 alpha5 onward until the 
GM release.

It's not a hardware problem.


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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Ryouga Hibiki]

Interesting note, a bit peculiar because in openSuSE webpage many mainboards 
that work well with Linux are Asus: 
http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Main_Boards#ATX
In Linux-Hardware.org happens the same: 
http://www.linux-hardware.org/hardware/liste2.php?hersteller=asus&geraet=&kategorie=Mainboard
not the same with MSI: 
http://www.linux-hardware.org/hardware/liste2.php?hersteller=MSI&geraet=&kategorie=Mainboard


Nope, I'm not looking for fight I just would like to have a good mainboard 
that will have zero problems with Linux, any recomendations are welcome. =)


Carlos A.

PS: Is it like, most Linux users test Asus Mainboards? are those mainboards 
so common? Here the most common are MSI and PCChips =/

PS2: 29.5% of DVD ISO yah for me ^^; 3 more days =P~




From: Felix Miata To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe 
Mix-up

Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:51:56 -0500

On 2006/12/10 08:16 (GMT+0800) Joe Morris (NTM) apparently typed:

> this is a BIOS problem, and the only way to get use of your
> memory (has to do IIRC with PCI memory remapping and a hole used for
> allocation for PCI cards) back is a corrected BIOS.  So, make sure you
> have the latest BIOS update.  Otherwise, you might complain to ASUS, but
> don't hold your breath there.

I gave up on Asus years ago:
http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html
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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Bernhard Walle]

* Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-12-10 01:34]:
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 16:16, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> > Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > i don't know that hardware in particular, but assuming that is an
> > x86_64 arch,
> 
> Not. Intel Pentium, Conroe, LGA775, Core 2 Duo. etc.

And which architecture is Core 2 Duo? :)


Regards,
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[opensuse] 10.2 hangs in install

[Andreas]

Hi,
I've got a rather old notebook with a p3/600, 192 MB RAM, SiliconMotion 
Lynx3DM (real) graphics chip with a whopping 8MB video-RAM


It ran all SuSEs up until 10.0 but I was put off to install 10.1 because 
of it's initial annoyances.

It does "run" Ubuntu up to 6.10 without tinkering.

Now I tried openSUSE 10.2 and faild a few times.

I switch to German and 1024x768.
After a bit of loading stuff the installer complains that there wasn't 
enough RAM for graphics mode and I should activate SWAP.
Actually there are allready 2 SWAP partitions. One with 128MB and one 
with 200.

So I chose one and click continue.
The screen gets rather dark with a spirally pattern. Then some text 
lines appear.

The last one is "found text linux console ..."
Shortly after the screen gets completely black and the HDD and DVD stop 
a few seconds later.

This is it.

I tried "Install without acpi" and even "Inst. safe-mode" without 
getting further.


Any proposals please ?


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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-09-06 20:11]:
> 
> It is similar to what gmail does: it even considers duplicated the
> sent email and the received copy from the list.
> 

I work around that with gmail by using fetchmail from gmail and my
provider for smtp rather than gmail.  That way I see my posts to the
list, but .  choice is choice and your's is respected  :^)..
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Re: [opensuse] Turn off computer.

[Doug McGarrett]

At 12:23 AM 12/10/2006 +0100, =?utf-8?q?Ra=C3=BAl_Moratalla?= wrote:
>Content-Disposition: inline
>
>El Sábado, 9 de Diciembre de 2006 23:26, John escribió:
>> Raúl Moratalla wrote:[snip]
>>
>> try adding 'apm power_off=1' in /etc/modules (create file if not there,
>> don't include the quote marks [' '])
>>
>
>I tried it, but it didn't solve the problem :(
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I forget how the thread started, but did it work in an earlier
SuSE on this machine?

If you are dual-booting this machine, does it work in Windows?
If not, perhaps the problem is hardware related?  You might also
try one of the CD Linux versions and see if it shuts off from
there.  

It seems that several responders to the list are having the same
problem, so it is likely to be a bug, but at least verify the
above.  If you have to report a bug, make sure you specify your
MOBO, your CPU, your BIOS and its version, etc., because it's 
very likely to be MOBO or BIOS specific. (Not everyone is
reporting the problem.)

BTW:  Is there anything relevant in your BIOS setup?  Could your
on-board BIOS maintenance battery need replacement? 

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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

[Carlos E. R.]

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> Or just remove duplicate list/direct replies and be done with it:
> 
...
> :0 Whc: msgid.lock
> | $FORMAIL -D 16384 msgid.cache


No, I don't like that method, and I tried it years ago. It will keep the 
first copy you get and discard the rest, whereas I want to ensure keeping 
the email that was sent to the list. I can delete the copy myself: after 
all, 1500 dups (7.1 Mb) in 3 years isn't that much :-P

It is similar to what gmail does: it even considers duplicated the sent 
email and the received copy from the list.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 DVD problem

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

Bob S wrote:
> Did a ktorrent on 10.2 64bit. Downloaded 3.7G and md5sums seem to be OK.
>   
Seemed?  Did it pass the Data Integrity Test?
> How can I tell if I burned a bootable DVD?
>   
Yast, Software, Check Media.

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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Felix Miata]

On 2006/12/10 08:16 (GMT+0800) Joe Morris (NTM) apparently typed:

> this is a BIOS problem, and the only way to get use of your
> memory (has to do IIRC with PCI memory remapping and a hole used for
> allocation for PCI cards) back is a corrected BIOS.  So, make sure you
> have the latest BIOS update.  Otherwise, you might complain to ASUS, but
> don't hold your breath there.

I gave up on Asus years ago:
http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 and GRUB [SOLVED]

[Ed Harrison]

** Reply to message from Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sun, 10 Dec 2006 
16:35:56 +0800

Thanks for you reply.

I tried the last thing in my brain and it worked.

I forced a reinstall of grub.

Back to normal.

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[opensuse] The verdict: 10.2 much nicer on my laptop than 10.0 or 10.1

[J Sloan]

Everything I've tried so far works, and works well!

It's snappier than 10.1, and in combination with the nvidia-1.0-9631 drivers,
I'm happy to say that the old screen blanking problem is gone. That is to say,
I can close the laptop lid for some hours, or all night, or just leave the
laptop sitting, and when I come back to it, the screen unblanks properly and
everything works. With previous versions of suse on this laptop running the
accelerated OpenGL drivers, what would happen is that once the screen blanked,
that was the end of the session - no way to get it back, the only option was
to kill X and log in again.

I have to say, quake 3 arena runs great, as does frozen bubble 2.0 -

Some minor glitches - I could not install the nvidia drivers with yast, it
complained about there being no providers of kernel for the kernel module, or
some such irritation. I just downloaded the latest driver from the nvidia site
and installed it the old school way.

Overall, I like it a lot, and it makes my laptop completely usable.

Joe


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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 and GRUB

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

Ed Harrison wrote:
> I will attest from the beginning that I made a mistake in upgrading 10.1 to 
> 10.2.
>
> That said, here is the problem. Grub loads stage 1.5.  Then GRUB is Loading.  
> Please Wait...
>   
Sounds like it cannot find your boot directory.  Odd, since that is
where stage 1.5 is.  What is your file system?
> I tried the grub command line:
>
> root (hd0,4)>>setup (hd0)
>   
I would suggest booting with the rescue system, mounting your / to /mnt,
and if you have a separate boot partition mounting it to /mnt/boot, then
cd to /mnt, then chroot /mnt.  Then, enter grub, run root (hd0,4), then
setup (hd0) and make sure it finds everything and there are no errors. 
quit to exit grub, then exit to exit the chroot, then shutdown -r now to
reboot.  That process has always worked for me.  All this assumes config
files are correct, like your menu.lst, initrd, etc.


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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Randall R Schulz]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 16:16, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> ...
> So, make sure you have the latest BIOS update.  Otherwise, you might
> complain to ASUS, but don't hold your breath there.

This is not about a hardware problem or an out-of-date BIOS. It's 
basically a kernel software problem introduced between 10.2's RC1 
kernel, which worked fine, and that used in the GM release.


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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Randall R Schulz]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 16:16, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> ...
>
> i don't know that hardware in particular, but assuming that is an
> x86_64 arch,

Not. Intel Pentium, Conroe, LGA775, Core 2 Duo. etc.




> ...
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 and GRUB

[Art Fore]

On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 19:15 -0500, Ed Harrison wrote:
> I will attest from the beginning that I made a mistake in upgrading 10.1 to 
> 10.2.
> 
> That said, here is the problem. Grub loads stage 1.5.  Then GRUB is Loading.  
> Please Wait...
> 
> The computer then reboots endlessly through this cycle, but no boot menu.
> 
> I have tried reloading grub to MBR, to /dev/hda, to /dev/hda5.  I have done 
> this with using the DVD to boot installed system--that works, but I am unable 
> to get any different result.
> 
> I tried the grub command line:
> 
> root (hd0,4)>>setup (hd0)
> 
> I tried to write generic code to MBR.
> 
> Nothing allows me to boot properly at startup.
> 
> I even tried Repair an Installed System with Automatic and Expert modes, 
> still nothing.
> 
> Windows XP on (hd0,0) will not boot under any condition, even though I tried 
> starting in Installation, Aborting and choosing boot /dev/hda1.
> 
> I have read the archives and tried everything I found there. 
> 
> Nothing has worked.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Ed Harrison, Linux User # 199533
> SuSE10.0, Kernel 2.6.16.21-0.21
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I had a similar problem excdpt that I was doing a new install and have 4
disk drives, 3 sata and and IDE. Done the same as you with no results. I
then disconnected the other 3 drives and tried again with the recover,
same thing. I then done a reinstall and it then worked.

When it was not working I looked at the boot menu.lst. It had root
(/dev/sda2) and other strangeness. After the reinstall on the single
disk, it was back to the normal {hd0,1)

Art

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Re: [opensuse] bittorrent clients - azureus example

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

John Andersen wrote:
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 02:34, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
>   
>> I am using the one mentioned the other day on the list (2.1beta1) from
>> the Build Service and DHT is working.  It worked fine for me (though I
>> only needed the RC1_GM delta, makes a big difference).  So in fairness
>> this one was available before 10.2 was officially available for
>> download, and it does NOT appear to be crippled.
>> 
>
> SHh !  Someone will hear you.
>   
Maybe that should have been PM.  Since it is publicly available, it
should be OK to tell the truth "openly".
> Complaint on this list a day or two ago was that it would turn off
> each time you exited and restarted.  I can't verify that, because
> I compiled from source.
Not here anyway, it works quite well for a beta (but so did 10.2). ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> I'm trying to learn enough about the relevant software and hardware to 
> rectify this situation. The work-around, suggested by Marcus Camen, of 
> disabling memory remapping in the BIOS works, and I can boot and run 
> the 10.2 final kernel, but it comes at the cost of losing 1 GB of my 
> installed RAM. Naturally, I need to rectify this.
>
> This is all unfamiliar to me. Where might I learn what I'll need to know 
> to regain the full use of my hardware?
>   
i don't know that hardware in particular, but assuming that is an x86_64
arch, some searching in the amd64 list for the past few years will
reveal that this is a BIOS problem, and the only way to get use of your
memory (has to do IIRC with PCI memory remapping and a hole used for
allocation for PCI cards) back is a corrected BIOS.  So, make sure you
have the latest BIOS update.  Otherwise, you might complain to ASUS, but
don't hold your breath there.

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[opensuse] 10.2 and GRUB

[Ed Harrison]

I will attest from the beginning that I made a mistake in upgrading 10.1 to 
10.2.

That said, here is the problem. Grub loads stage 1.5.  Then GRUB is Loading.  
Please Wait...

The computer then reboots endlessly through this cycle, but no boot menu.

I have tried reloading grub to MBR, to /dev/hda, to /dev/hda5.  I have done 
this with using the DVD to boot installed system--that works, but I am unable 
to get any different result.

I tried the grub command line:

root (hd0,4)>>setup (hd0)

I tried to write generic code to MBR.

Nothing allows me to boot properly at startup.

I even tried Repair an Installed System with Automatic and Expert modes, still 
nothing.

Windows XP on (hd0,0) will not boot under any condition, even though I tried 
starting in Installation, Aborting and choosing boot /dev/hda1.

I have read the archives and tried everything I found there. 

Nothing has worked.

Any suggestions?

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Font Quality Backsliding from RC1 -> GM

[Andreas]

Le samedi 9 décembre 2006 13:47, Michael Ayers a écrit :
> Control Center-> Appearance & Themes-> Fonts-> Use anti-aliasing for fonts
> push the configure button-> enable Use sub-pixel hinting and for me Hinting
> style to Medium and my fonts are back to where they were with 10.1

That is just strange. Subpixel hinting has been switched off for openSUSE 10.2 
at compile time, so there should be now way whatsoever to activate it at 
runtime.

And it can not be the reason for different font rendering in 10.2RC1 and 
10.2GM, because subpixel hinting was off in both versions.

Well, I'm off to install 10.2 and see for myself :)

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[opensuse] Intel_AGP / AGPgart / P965 / G965 / ASUS P5B Deluxe Mix-up

[Randall R Schulz]

Hi,

As some of you may have already noticed, owners of ASUS P5B Deluxe 
mainboards with Intel P965 (_not_ G965) chipsets and > 3GB of RAM and 
the BIOS set to enable remapping of the I/O memory space to enable 
access to the RAM beyond 3GB, the intel_agp and / or agpgart kernel 
module (or related software) spuriously detects a 965G and immediately 
aftward, during start-up, does something that causes the system to lock 
up hard.

I'm trying to learn enough about the relevant software and hardware to 
rectify this situation. The work-around, suggested by Marcus Camen, of 
disabling memory remapping in the BIOS works, and I can boot and run 
the 10.2 final kernel, but it comes at the cost of losing 1 GB of my 
installed RAM. Naturally, I need to rectify this.

This is all unfamiliar to me. Where might I learn what I'll need to know 
to regain the full use of my hardware?


Thanks.

Randall Schulz
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Re: [opensuse] Turn off computer.

[James Knott]

Raúl Moratalla wrote:
> El Sábado, 9 de Diciembre de 2006 23:26, John escribió:
>   
>> Raúl Moratalla wrote:[snip]
>>
>> try adding 'apm power_off=1' in /etc/modules (create file if not there,
>> don't include the quote marks [' '])
>>
>> 
>
> I tried it, but it didn't solve the problem :(
>   
It didn't work for me on a Compaq system.  However, power off has never
worked on this computer.

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Re: [opensuse] March of the Penguins?

[John Andersen]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 08:37, Glenn Holmer wrote:
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 03:25, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > Well, I don't care. Just don't make this
> > happen in SLED. Though it would give a good ridicule of all servers
> > showed penguin lemmings after a grand reboot. ;-)
>
> I don't think it belongs in openSUSE either; it's cute as hell but it
> makes my machines look silly.  Stuff like that should be kept for
> betas.

Hmmm, I once had someone suggest the wallpaper used for root
account in kde (bomb on red background) looked childish, and that
was a big negative in his view.  He sniffed and went back to his
windows 2000 machine.




Now lets not start a flame war about why I was logged into kde
as root  I did it, still do it occasionally, get over it.
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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-09-06 15:30]:
> By the way, I have another recipe to put direct replies out of sight ;-)

Or just remove duplicate list/direct replies and be done with it:

# ---
# remove duplicate messages
# ---
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:0 Whc: msgid.lock
| $FORMAIL -D 16384 msgid.cache

LOCKFILE

### save duplicates in case of error
:0 a:
$MAILDIR/duplicates
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Re: [opensuse] Turn off computer.

[Raúl Moratalla]

El Sábado, 9 de Diciembre de 2006 23:26, John escribió:
> Raúl Moratalla wrote:[snip]
>
> try adding 'apm power_off=1' in /etc/modules (create file if not there,
> don't include the quote marks [' '])
>

I tried it, but it didn't solve the problem :(
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Re: [opensuse] bittorrent clients - azureus example

[Randall R Schulz]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 13:55, John Andersen wrote:
> ...
>
> wikipedia addicts  (sigh)

Please explain.

Do you accept only authoritarian models for knowledge dispensation? If 
so, why should we consider you a useful source of information? Why, in 
fact, do you participate in this communitarian knowledge-sharing forum?


> John Andersen


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Re: [opensuse] unsubscribe

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[opensuse] Asterisk & fax

[Kaare Rasmussen]

Did anyone try (and succeed) to get asterisk receive faxes with spandsp - and 
would like to share?

I get as far as having a log entry in a csv file with a column entry "RxFax" 
and the name of the fax file. There is no file, however, and the calling fax 
can't send.

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[opensuse] KDE kicker icon - OS 10.2

[Osku]

Hello

Does anyone know how can i change KDE kicker icon? I cant find it in
/usr/share/pixmaps/

Thanks

J-O.E
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Re: [opensuse] New question for the list of questons

[John K Masters]

On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 14:49:42 -0500
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> 
> Show of hands now, how many of you have slept more than a couple of 
> hours since Tuesday night?  Hours have to have been slept in a real bed 
> to count.
> 
> :-) 
> 
1] Started the download
2] Went to bed
3] Got up
4] Installed SuSe
5] Went to work
6] Came home, read mail and surfed as normal

Not having used SuSe since 7.1 I was a little apprehensive about installing 
this but so far, so good.


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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

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The Friday 2006-12-08 at 07:57 +0100, Clayton wrote:

> So.. can anyone point to any other mailing list that has Reply-to set
> the same as the opensuse lists?  I would really like to see it...

sourceforge lists do not set it; yahoogroups does. Is yahoo linux or 
windows oriented? ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] unsubscribe

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The Saturday 2006-12-09 at 08:23 -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote:

> On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 13:42 +0100, Roland Colberg wrote:
> 
> What part of this line do you not understand:
> 
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> It is at the bottom of every email from the list.

I have a friend who subscribed for some time, and then wanted to 
unsubscribe. He said that he didn't know how. He happened to visit me with 
his laptop, and I had a look. "This is going to be easy", I thought.

He was using outlook (the X-Mailer header says "Microsoft Office Outlook 
11"). 

I could not see the footer!

I then wanted to demonstrate to him that there is a header with the 
unsubscribe address, but we had a hard time finding it: showing the full 
source of the email on that program wasn't obvious.

Maybe other people using that mailer can confirm or reject this: I had not 
much time to check and I don't use windows.

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Re: [opensuse] New question for the list of questons

[J Sloan]

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> Show of hands now, how many of you have slept more than a couple of 
> hours since Tuesday night?  Hours have to have been slept in a real bed 
> to count.

I've slept every night - started the bittorent download thursday, it was done
when I came home from work friday - made the DVD and installed 10.2 on my
laptop friday night.

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] New question for the list of questons

[Mike McMullin]

On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 14:49 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Show of hands now, how many of you have slept more than a couple of 
> hours since Tuesday night?  Hours have to have been slept in a real bed 
> to count.
> 
> :-) 
 
   but I cheated, I'm not going to get it till later.  :)

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Re: [opensuse] March of the Penguins?

[Mike McMullin]

On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 11:37 -0600, Glenn Holmer wrote:
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 03:25, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > Well, I don't care. Just don't make this
> > happen in SLED. Though it would give a good ridicule of all servers
> > showed penguin lemmings after a grand reboot. ;-)
> 
> I don't think it belongs in openSUSE either; it's cute as hell but it 
> makes my machines look silly.  Stuff like that should be kept for 
> betas.

  I like a bit of humour in my software, it shows creativity.  I just
wish this was a screensaver as well.

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Re: [opensuse] bittorrent clients - azureus example

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The Saturday 2006-12-09 at 12:55 -0900, John Andersen wrote:

> wikipedia addicts  (sigh)

What I had available :-)

> In the present usage instance, DHT is used by torrent clients
> to find additional peers in addition to or in the absence of any peers
> supplied by trackers.  
> 
> It allows access to peers even when trackers are blocked or down
> as long as you can find one peer somewhere that runs DHT.

Ah, ok, I understand.

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Re: [opensuse] Turn off computer.

[John]

Raúl Moratalla wrote:[snip]

try adding 'apm power_off=1' in /etc/modules (create file if not there, 
don't include the quote marks [' '])


HTH

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Re: [opensuse] Missing i686 packages from download.opensuse.org

[Marcus Meissner]

On Sat, Dec 09, 2006 at 10:12:24AM -0700, Wade Berrier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 10:28 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > On Dec 8 2006 14:32, Wade Berrier wrote:
> > >
> > >Any particular reason there are no i686 rpms available from
> > >download.opensuse.org?
> > 
> > Why do you need i686? (Ok, there are a few like glibc.) i586 works for 
> > everyone.
> 
> Right, glibc as well as db come for i686 on the cds.  I'm just curious
> as to why they are on the cds and not in the internet installation
> source.

I mailed the responsible guys.

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[opensuse] 10.2 DVD problem

[Bob S]

Hello SuSE people,

Did a ktorrent on 10.2 64bit. Downloaded 3.7G and md5sums seem to be OK.
Opened it with K3B and burned it to DVD. Shut down the box and tried to 
boot from the new DVD. Got a message "No OS"

Shut down again and rebooted to look at the DVD. Could not mount it and 
got this message. "Method "Mount" with signature "ssas" on 
interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" doesn't exist.

What the heck does that mean

How can I tell if I burned a bootable DVD?

Bob S.
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Re: [opensuse] Anybody like the new KDE start menu?

[Leendert Meyer]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 22:24, George Stoianov wrote:
> On 12/9/06, Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, for me, it's hard to tell if the new menu is good or not.
> >
> > I have not liked it any more than standard KDE menu.
> > I prefer the standard KDE menu, but I can work with the new menu
> > as well without major productivity loss.
> > --
>
> This new menu seems very Mac like, too many clicks plus the mac
> opens different columns in th Finder, so you can see where you
> started from... I do not like it beside being different it is not
> more useful.

I don't know the Mac menu, but I don't like that I have to click to 
see a submenu, or to go back to a parent menu. To be able to do this 
just with simple mouse movement, and without clicking is what I like 
in the original KDE-menu. The way of navigating between submenus is 
probably inherent to the concepts of both menu's.

But I do not dislike the new menu. It offers a choice, and that alone 
I consider an improvement. I like the grouping of the tabs, and to 
be able to switch between tabs without clicking, but with mouse 
movement alone.

What I also like is being able to switch between both menu styles 
with just two clicks.

The search feature has improved because the results are listed below 
the Search field. In the KDE-menu one would have to navigate to the 
application in question.

In short:
  * quite a few improvements
  * I dislike navigation between submenu's with mouse clicks

I'll keep the new menu for now... ;-)

Cheers,

Leen
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Re: [opensuse] unsubscribe

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On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 08:23 -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 13:42 +0100, Roland Colberg wrote:
> 
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> 
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  Are you really surprised Ken?  This was bound to happen.

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Re: [opensuse] Turn off computer.

[Raúl Moratalla]

El Sábado, 9 de Diciembre de 2006 18:02, Erik Jakobsen escribió:
> Raúl Moratalla wrote:
> > El Sábado, 9 de Diciembre de 2006 17:25, Gunnar H escribió:
> >> shutdown -h now work just like I before, it halt my system,
> >> but do not power off.
> >> I have disabled ACPI when I installed 10.2
> >
> > I have the same problem in my AMD Athlon 1200.
>
> Tried init 0 ?

Yes, it doesn't poweroff my system.
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Re: [opensuse] bittorrent clients - azureus example

[John Andersen]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 02:34, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> I am using the one mentioned the other day on the list (2.1beta1) from
> the Build Service and DHT is working.  It worked fine for me (though I
> only needed the RC1_GM delta, makes a big difference).  So in fairness
> this one was available before 10.2 was officially available for
> download, and it does NOT appear to be crippled.

SHh !  Someone will hear you.

Complaint on this list a day or two ago was that it would turn off
each time you exited and restarted.  I can't verify that, because
I compiled from source.

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Re: [opensuse] bittorrent clients - azureus example

[John Andersen]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 11:44, Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 21:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > The Saturday 2006-12-09 at 02:12 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> > > DHT is disabled.
> >
> > What is DHT?
> >
> > The wikipedia has four entries:
>
> Five (at least)
>
> > * , a type of distributed system that provides hash table-like
> >   functionality
>
> That's the one

wikipedia addicts  (sigh)

In the present usage instance, DHT is used by torrent clients
to find additional peers in addition to or in the absence of any peers
supplied by trackers.  

It allows access to peers even when trackers are blocked or down
as long as you can find one peer somewhere that runs DHT.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Font Quality Backsliding from RC1 -> GM

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-09 15:42, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Peter,
>
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 13:21, Peter Van Lone wrote:
>   
>> 
>
> Are you kidding? It's huge!

He only looked at the title bars :-)

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Font Quality Backsliding from RC1 -> GM

[Michael Ayers]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 22:15, Randall R Schulz wrote:

>
> I suppose I could try to describe the changes I'm seeing. It appears
> that the basic letterforms are lighter in weight but the anti-aliasing
> is stronger. I suspect (but am not certain / do not know for a fact)
> that this is the result of anti-aliasing taking the place of proper
> hinting. In all my experience getting fonts under Linux just the way I
> like them, the hint interpreter is superior.
>
> > > how do I get it back? What changed?
> >
Thank you Randall you just pointed me in the right direction,

Control Center-> Appearance & Themes-> Fonts-> Use anti-aliasing for fonts 
push the configure button-> enable Use sub-pixel hinting and for me Hinting 
style to Medium and my fonts are back to where they were with 10.1

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Font Quality Backsliding from RC1 -> GM

[Randall R Schulz]

Peter,

On Saturday 09 December 2006 13:21, Peter Van Lone wrote:
> On 12/9/06, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Installed and updated from factory only:
> > http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/qt-gtk-fonts102f.png :-)
> >
> > Installation from final released 10.2 DVD:
> > http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/qt-gtk-fonts102r.png :-(
>
> I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but ... what's the difference? I
> really can see no difference between the font representations in
> either image   I mean, there appears to be some variability, but
> I'm not sure what might be just poor png image quality and what is an
> actual diff between the fonts.

Are you kidding? It's huge!

I guess if you just crank up the font sizes to ensure legibility, none 
of this stuff matters, but I'm firmly in the "there's no such thing as 
enough screen real estate" camp, so I need to minimize font sizes to 
enable maximum amount of information display.


> If you could describe what you see as the difference perhaps it would
> help interpret the images.

Look at the Mozilla menu and toolbars in each of those screen shots. The 
difference is clear


> Peter


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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 install problem

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-09 15:25, Stevens wrote:
> ...hdd today and have yet to get a clean install. I suspect that the 20GB 
> drive has hardware problems (bad sectors?) that plays havoc with the 
> installation.

You could always toss it into a working system, back up what needs to be
backed up, and do an exhaustive (ie read/write) media check using badblocks.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Font Quality Backsliding from RC1 -> GM

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-09 15:21, Peter Van Lone wrote:
> On 12/9/06, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Installed and updated from factory only:
>> http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/qt-gtk-fonts102f.png :-)
>>
>> Installation from final released 10.2 DVD:
>> http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/qt-gtk-fonts102r.png :-(
>
> I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but ... what's the difference? I 

Look at the menu bar, in particular.

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[opensuse] 10.2 install problem

[Stevens]

Yesterday I installed 10.2 and everything went very smooth, no problems 
with anything except finding the correct mplayerplug-in, but that has 
nothing to do with the system install.

Today I got greedy, decided that my mom didn't need a 60GB drive for her 
"mostly network" operations, so I pulled that drive and stuck in a 20GB 
hdd today and have yet to get a clean install. I suspect that the 20GB 
drive has hardware problems (bad sectors?) that plays havoc with the 
installation. 

The point is that if I had tried to install 10.2 on the 20GB drive 
first, I would think that 10.2 sucked big time. Maybe some of the 
troubles I read in this forum have similar foundations.

My 2 cents worth.
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Re: [opensuse] Anybody like the new KDE start menu?

[George Stoianov]

On 12/9/06, Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, for me, it's hard to tell if the new menu is good or not.

I have not liked it any more than standard KDE menu.
I prefer the standard KDE menu, but I can work with the new menu as
well without major productivity loss.
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different columns in th Finder, so you can see where you started
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Font Quality Backsliding from RC1 -> GM

[Peter Van Lone]

On 12/9/06, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Installed and updated from factory only:
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/qt-gtk-fonts102f.png :-)

Installation from final released 10.2 DVD:
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/qt-gtk-fonts102r.png :-(


I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but ... what's the difference? I
really can see no difference between the font representations in
either image   I mean, there appears to be some variability, but
I'm not sure what might be just poor png image quality and what is an
actual diff between the fonts.

If you could describe what you see as the difference perhaps it would
help interpret the images.

Peter
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Re: [opensuse] March of the Penguins?

[Jos van Kan]

Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 20:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> often, and becomes and ex-human.
>> s and/an
> 
> "an becomes and"? :)
> 
> Hm, I actually don't know how you tell sed to replace the second hit on a 
> line 
> and leave the first
> 
> s/and\(.*\)and/and\1an/
> 
> works for this particular case, but I have a gut feeling there is a more 
> general way of doing it
> 

While an interesting problem in itself, the engineer's solution would be
s/d ex/ ex/
I know, lack of imagination and certainly not a more general way of doing it. 
:-)

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Font Quality Backsliding from RC1 -> GM

[Randall R Schulz]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 12:34, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2006/12/09 12:21 (GMT-0800) Randall R Schulz apparently typed:
> > If I liked it better the way it was in RC1,
>
> I already wrote about this here twice in less than 24 hours. :-p

I'm not seeing it. Could you tell me the Subject: header of the messages 
you're referring to?


> Installed and updated from factory only:
> http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/qt-gtk-fonts102f.png :-)
>
> Installation from final released 10.2 DVD:
> http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/qt-gtk-fonts102r.png :-(

This has nothing to do with GTK / Gnome, I'm seeing it just in the basic 
KDE components such as the toolbar, Konsole, the Control Center, etc.

Wait a minute... Are YaST's components KDE / Qt or Gnome / GKT programs? 
They seem to also show the degradation.


I suppose I could try to describe the changes I'm seeing. It appears 
that the basic letterforms are lighter in weight but the anti-aliasing 
is stronger. I suspect (but am not certain / do not know for a fact) 
that this is the result of anti-aliasing taking the place of proper 
hinting. In all my experience getting fonts under Linux just the way I 
like them, the hint interpreter is superior.


> > how do I get it back? What changed?
>
> Probably most of us want to know. Maybe with a couple dozen threads
> on the subject somebody with a solution may show up to share it.


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Re: [opensuse] bittorrent clients - azureus example

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2006-12-08 at 19:11 -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Dec 2006, Ryouga Hibiki wrote:
> > You can, I downloaded some iso images from SuSE 9.3 by FTP, and finished the
> > download with Azureus.
> > Add the torrent to Azureus. Force ReCheck and voila! Continue the 
> > downloading
> > ;)
> >
> > I suppose that the Force Recheck option assures the image is correct.
> >
> 
> Try Metalink http://en.opensuse.org/Metalink Use rsync to correct if you
> have md5sum issues.  It is now covered on the link.

You can not use metalink to complete an already initiated torrent or ftp 
download - which is what the poster asked about. You have to start anew.

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Re: [opensuse] bittorrent clients - azureus example

[Anders Johansson]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 21:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Saturday 2006-12-09 at 02:12 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> > DHT is disabled.
>
> What is DHT?
>
> The wikipedia has four entries:

Five (at least)

>
> * , a type of distributed system that provides hash table-like
>   functionality

That's the one

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Font Quality Backsliding from RC1 -> GM

[Felix Miata]

On 2006/12/09 12:21 (GMT-0800) Randall R Schulz apparently typed:

> If I liked it better the way it was in RC1,

I already wrote about this here twice in less than 24 hours. :-p

Installed and updated from factory only:
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/qt-gtk-fonts102f.png :-)

Installation from final released 10.2 DVD:
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/qt-gtk-fonts102r.png :-(

> how do I get it back? What changed?

Probably most of us want to know. Maybe with a couple dozen threads on
the subject somebody with a solution may show up to share it.
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Re: [opensuse] bittorrent clients - azureus example

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Saturday 2006-12-09 at 02:12 -0900, John Andersen wrote:

> DHT is disabled.

What is DHT?

The wikipedia has four entries:

* , a type of distributed system that provides hash table-like 
  functionality
* Dihydrotestosterone, a hormone commonly implicated in male baldness, 
  produced from testosterone
* Discrete Hartley transform, a Fourier-related transform of discrete, 
  periodic data similar to the discrete Fourier transform

  DHT may also refer to:

* D.H.T., a Belgian group that covered the song "Listen to Your Heart"


Which one, if any? :-?

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Re: [opensuse] NO PERSONAL REPLIES TO POSTINGS ON THIS LIST!!

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2006-12-08 at 11:54 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

> >> If you are using procmail this receipe will add a Reply-To: header
> >
> >I have been using that one for years: some one told me that here.
> 
> Even comp.mail.pine suggested the/a procmail recipe. I wonder what's 
> wrong in this world? :P

By the way, I have another recipe to put direct replies out of sight ;-)

(three recipe types: list, copy, direct (order is important))

  :0f
  * ^X-Mailinglist: opensuse-es
  | /usr/bin/formail -bfi 'Reply-To:"OS-es" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
  :0 a:
  $HOME/Mail/lists/opensuse-es


...


  :0f
  * ^X-Mailinglist: opensuse
  | /usr/bin/formail -bfi 'Reply-To:"OpenSuSE-en" '
  :0 a:
  $HOME/Mail/lists/opensuse


  # Duplicates (ie, cced)

  :0
  * 
^TO_((opensuse|opensuse-factory|opensuse-project|opensuse-es|opensuse-security)@opensuse.org)
  $HOME/Mail/lists/in_dups


  # --- resto -
  :0
  $HOME/Mail/lists/in_rsto


So... I really don't care if people send me a reply to the list and a 
private copy, I don't see them - unless I want to. And real direct replies 
I also have in another folder, so I don't confuse them. No problem.

Unless the mail is big, I don't really bother bothering ;-)


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[opensuse] 10.2 Font Quality Backsliding from RC1 -> GM

[Randall R Schulz]

Hi,

If I liked it better the way it was in RC1, how do I get it back? What 
changed?


Randall Schulz
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Re: [opensuse] Seamonkey.

[Wolfgang Rosenauer]

Erik Jakobsen wrote:
> jdd wrote:
>> Erik Jakobsen a écrit :
>>
>>> Was it an RPM Seamonkey You installed ?.
>> mozilla stock seamonkey don't need any installation, untar it works.
>> (I use it from my user ~/Document)
>>
>> jdd
>>
>>
> jdd!, Thanks for Your info. I know it, but would prefer rpm, and I have
> it running now from an rpm package.

AFAIK SeaMonkey is on the ftp server
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/i586/seamonkey-1.0.99-18.i586.rpm

and maybe it will also be on the DVD9 within the retail box.

Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.2 Installatiion problems

[Rick Friedman]

On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 11:10 +0800, Art Fore wrote:

 ---

> It appears Evolution no longer saves passwords, even though the save
> password box is checked. Everytime it goes out to check mail, it asks
> again. Is there a solution to this?

I just upgraded from 10.1 to 10.2 also. I find I am also having this
problem with evolution. As you said, it asks for the password for each
of my 5 accounts every time it checks for mail.

I posted a message about it on the evolution mailing list but have not
received a reply as yet. Hopefully, someone here can help us.

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Re: [opensuse] March of the Penguins?

[Anders Johansson]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 20:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Well, that lyric is about someone who imposes his power once too
> > often, and becomes and ex-human.
>
> s and/an

"an becomes and"? :)

Hm, I actually don't know how you tell sed to replace the second hit on a line 
and leave the first

s/and\(.*\)and/and\1an/

works for this particular case, but I have a gut feeling there is a more 
general way of doing it

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[opensuse] New question for the list of questons

[jfweber]

Show of hands now, how many of you have slept more than a couple of 
hours since Tuesday night?  Hours have to have been slept in a real bed 
to count.

:-) 

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Re: [opensuse] vsftpd problem

[Sandy Drobic]

Jose wrote:

Can you use passive ftp on the server itself?


No, after I sent las t email, I tried "passive" just after login to the 
server (turns off passive), and then "epsv" and then it works, I have 
the firewall of the target server on, and client's firewall is off, and 
I am able to download the files I need, but I don't think this is a good 
solution, the target server is actually a Suse10.0 and client is a 
Suse10.1, don't know if that would be part of the problem.


Hm, I am a bit baffled. What does your vsftpd.conf look like without comments?

This is my configuration (on Suse 9.2):

# egrep -v "^#" /etc/vsftpd.conf
write_enable=YES
dirmessage_enable=YES
ftpd_banner="Welcome to japantest.homelinux.com"
local_enable=YES
local_umask=022
chroot_local_user=YES
chroot_list_enable=YES
chroot_list_file=/etc/vsftpd.chroot_list
local_max_rate=40200
userlist_enable=YES
userlist_deny=NO
userlist_file=/etc/vsftpd_userlist
user_config_dir=/etc/vsftpd_user_conf
anonymous_enable=NO
anon_world_readable_only=YES
syslog_enable=YES
log_ftp_protocol=YES
xferlog_enable=YES
vsftpd_log_file=/var/log/vsftpd.log
xferlog_std_format=YES
session_support=YES
setproctitle_enable=YES
connect_from_port_20=YES
idle_session_timeout=600
pam_service_name=vsftpd

You probably do not want the excessive logging that I enabled. I also do 
not have anonymous ftp and only allow explicitely listed users in 
/etc/vsftpd_userlist to log in at all.


Sandy
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Re: [opensuse] March of the Penguins?

[jfweber]

On Fri December 8 2006 9:49 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scrtached these 
words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
> On Fri December 8 2006 8:55 pm, Randall R Schulz skratched these
> words
>
> onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
> > On Friday 08 December 2006 16:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > > Looks like you didn't pay much attention to the christmas
> > > > > screen
> > > >
> > > > "Christmas" doesn't normally attract my attention, but as I was
> > > > buzzing through, clearing the unread status on messages, I saw
> > > > the cpio perplexity someone had, and tried to help out with
> > > > that. I did not read back to see the larger context of that
> > > > thread.
> > >
> > > I think that happens much more often than not
> > > delete, delete, delete, whoa  key clicks .. ' l ' ...
> > > send delete, delete, delete...
> >
> > I generally dislike that phenomenon, but alas, I embody it myself,
> > sometimes...
> >
> > > ;)
> > > --
> > > j
> > > Let freedom ring!
> >
> > It seems more than obvious humans are not ready for freedom.
> > Freedom requires discipline, and humans seem only interested in
> > opportunity and power.
>
> Well, that lyric is about someone who imposes his power once too
> often, and becomes and ex-human.
s and/an 
duh!
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[opensuse] Suse 10.2 Installatiion problems

[Art Fore]

First problem I had was during installation reboot, it came up with no
operating system. Done the Installation, repair, but still no luck after
trying all of the options for the boot loader. Ended up removing the
other 3 disk drives and reinstalling. That fixed it.

It appears Evolution no longer saves passwords, even though the save
password box is checked. Everytime it goes out to check mail, it asks
again. Is there a solution to this?

XGL does not work. Comes up that accelleration not enabledj, it is, and
the video card is not in database. Only has sax2 option. Video card is
Nvidia 7300 and the nvidia 9629 driver is installed. This works on my
laptop with geforce go 7300 to 10.2 RC1. Any suggestions on how to get
this to working again? It did work with 10.1.

Art

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Re: [opensuse] Anybody like the new KDE start menu?

[Alexey Eremenko]

Well, for me, it's hard to tell if the new menu is good or not.

I have not liked it any more than standard KDE menu.
I prefer the standard KDE menu, but I can work with the new menu as
well without major productivity loss.
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[opensuse] Re: Can anyone run GTK Emacs with wxGTK installed?

[Stephen Berman]

On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:05:31 + (GMT) Francesco Scaglioni wrote:

> I can now compile the cvs version and it runs.  Can get
> anti-aliased fonts for eg menu-bar etc but not for buffer
> contents. So I must be getting closer.  Interestingly the
> --enable-font-backend command line switch seems to be not
> recognised despite the enable-font-backend configure switch.

I was going to reply that anti-aliased fonts in the menu-bar come from
the GTK toolkit and the buffer contents lack anti-aliasing because
aside from GTK Emacs 22 lacks it; but --enable-font-backend is not
part of Emacs 22, so I guess you compiled not from the CVS trunk but
from the one of the branches (unicode?).  I cannot help you there, but
you could try the emacs.help newsgroup or the emacs-pretest-bug or
emacs-devel mailing lists (all three accessible via http://gmane.org).

Steve Berman

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Re: [opensuse] Turn off computer.

[Lew Wolfgang]

Gunnar H wrote:
> Erik Jakobsen skrev:
>> Raúl Moratalla wrote:
>>> El Sábado, 9 de Diciembre de 2006 17:25, Gunnar H escribió:
>>>   
 shutdown -h now work just like I before, it halt my system,
 but do not power off.
 I have disabled ACPI when I installed 10.
 
>>> I have the same problem in my AMD Athlon 1200.
>>>   
>> Tried init 0 ?
> 
> It work just before, It shuts down my system, but no power off.
> Gunnar

Hi Folks,

I've had the same problem since installing 10.0.  10.1 behaves
the same, while 9.x worked ok.  The shutdown sequence completes
successfully but hangs when it's supposed to power down the
motherboard.

I've convinced myself that it's a problem with the particular
motherboard itself (Tyan S2875 Dual Opteron).  It works ok
on other S2875's that I've built, and on other Tyan board
types.  I've upgraded/reflashed the BIOS to keep current, but
no joy.

So while I think it's a sample defect with my mobo, there WAS
a change between 9.x and 10.x that exposed the defect.

Regards,
Lew Wolfgang



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Re: [opensuse] openexchange

[James Tremblay]

On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 19:10 +0200, HG wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On 11/29/06, Dominique Leuenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, that's a sad story. SLOX (SuSE Linux OpenXchange) was very
> > promising. When SuSE got bought by Novell, there were far to many
> > Messaging services around (netmail, groupwise, slox), so slox had to go
> > away.
> 
> 2-3 years ago, I looked at alternatives to Exchange. All I found was
> SLOX. Looked good. Goal: linux server, windows desktops with outlook.
> Just slightly one year ago, we had to make a decision. Until that we
> only had linux servers. Users wanted calendar with the features from
> Outlook and Exchange. SLOX had not gone anywhere, so we desided that
> it's not the route to go. And still no other alternatives. So the easy
> choice then (even for me) was to go with Small Business Server. SLOX
> was the only alternative. I just do not know what the "linux people"
> look in a groupware clients and servers. What the users want is in
> Outlook+Exchange. If you do not even want to produce that, you will
> not compete.
> 
> I'm sad to see SLOX go, but I'm also glad I didn't push that... life
> has been easy with Exchange.
> 
> -- 
> HG.

You should look at GroupWise and it comes with a free linux host.

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Re: [opensuse] March of the Penguins?

[Glenn Holmer]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 03:25, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> Well, I don't care. Just don't make this
> happen in SLED. Though it would give a good ridicule of all servers
> showed penguin lemmings after a grand reboot. ;-)

I don't think it belongs in openSUSE either; it's cute as hell but it 
makes my machines look silly.  Stuff like that should be kept for 
betas.

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Re: [opensuse] Missing i686 packages from download.opensuse.org

[Kai Ponte]

On Saturday 09 December 2006 05:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> On Saturday 09 December 2006 04:28, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > On Dec 8 2006 14:32, Wade Berrier wrote:
> > >Any particular reason there are no i686 rpms available from
> > >download.opensuse.org?
> >
> > Why do you need i686? (Ok, there are a few like glibc.) i586 works for
> > everyone.
>
> That's a question I've wondered about - If we have a 686 system wouldn't
> the 686 packages be better than the 586?

I always try to get the i686 versions, too. I notice quite often that they are 
more seamless to run than the i586 versions. I'm guessing there's some 
compilation which takes into account the newer processors.

I suppose it is more of a "seat of the pants" type feeling and I doubt I'd be 
able to document it so I expect a bunch of hardcore geeks to come back and 
tell me I'm wrong and that I should just be using assembler programs written 
for the 8086 in commandline since I'd be better off anyway.

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Re: [opensuse] Turn off computer.

[Gunnar H]

Erik Jakobsen skrev:
> Raúl Moratalla wrote:
>> El Sábado, 9 de Diciembre de 2006 17:25, Gunnar H escribió:
>>   
>>> shutdown -h now work just like I before, it halt my system,
>>> but do not power off.
>>> I have disabled ACPI when I installed 10.2
>>>
>>> 
>> I have the same problem in my AMD Athlon 1200.
>>   
> Tried init 0 ?

It work just before, It shuts down my system, but no power off.
Gunnar
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