Re: [opensuse] question
On Friday 25 January 2008 15:46:57 steve wrote: Jonathan Wilson wrote: | I use ATI cards all the time and they are excellent - I'm using a dual hed ATI | card right now and formerly had two dualhead cards on here for a 3-monitor | config. I have no trouble with them. In fact I buy ATI whenever I can, having | had less actual trouble with ATI than I have with nVidia. I gave up on ATI years ago, as I suspect a respectable percentage of this list. Its not my intention to turn this into a flame war or anything, but you ARE joking right? I certainly DO NOT want to start anything, however I am not joking: 1. They work good for me (and I do all kinds of odd things with them - I hack my own xorg.conf quite often - and I usually have at least dual monitors, sometimes more) 2. I really have had more probs with nVidias than ATIs Not trying to say any one else's experiences aren't valid, but that's how it's been for me. JW -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No VGA Input (was: Re: [opensuse] WARNING! - Latest Update Kills Server)
On Friday 25 January 2008 10:44:07 D Henson wrote: I now get no display at all, not even the stuff you normally get when you boot the system. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't any PC monitor display that stuff, regardless of whether or not a driver is installed? All that I do get is No VGA Input and Monitor going to Sleep. This sounds like a hardware problem. I removed my existing card (GeForce 2) and installed a newer one (GeForce FX 5200). No display. Reinstalled the older card. Replaced VGA cable. No display. Removed power for 20 seconds reconnected power. No display. Replaced monitor with known good monitor. No display. Now I'm really lost. Anybody have any suggestions on how to proceed? Don Henson Do you have a CRT or an LCD laptop? Please check to make sure the monitor's settings haven't been corrupted. Just this week I had a friend call and say his big 24 LCD monitor wasn't working anymore - no lights, no display. After poking a lot of buttons I finally figured out that it had just lots it's mind - was listening to the wrong input, was set to partial resolution, a bunch of things. I assume a surge hit the monitor or something. You are saying, I take it, that you do not see even the BIOS messages scrolling by when you first boot up. That makes me wonder if the BIOs is set to send it's output to something other than the AGP/PCIe port. Is there a built-in VGA on the mainboard that you are not using? If so, plug your monitor into it and see if it's getting signal. If so you'll have to go into the BIOS and tell the BIOS to use the AGP/PCIe port (it will probably be an options called Init Display First You might also need to clear your CMOS memory. How to do this depends on the specific computer. Its usually done by moving a jumper temporarily. Is the computer turning on at all? Go you get power lights, do the fans start to turn when you turn the computer on? If so and my pervious advice still doesn't work, you might try using a PCI video card too, at least temporarily. JW -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] question
On Friday 25 January 2008 13:55:03 Sloan wrote: Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote: Oh thank you very much, i'll uninstall the program... and yes, i have an ATI video card, why? ATI cards have a problematic history with linux. That should be changing soon, since official, open source 3D drivers are on the way, but for now, ATI cards are more trouble than I'd want to deal with. I use ATI cards all the time and they are excellent - I'm using a dual hed ATI card right now and formerly had two dualhead cards on here for a 3-monitor config. I have no trouble with them. In fact I buy ATI whenever I can, having had less actual trouble with ATI than I have with nVidia. All the proprietary drives are troublesome to some extent, but I know of no reason to say that ATI is worse than any of the others. JW -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] WARNING! - Latest Update Kills Server
On Thursday 24 January 2008 09:54:28 peter wrote: Marcus Meissner schrieb: | | Trying to do everything the easy way is what got you in trouble. Isn't it what computers suppose to do? Easier our lives? Supposed to? yes, but in case you haven't noticed, it hasn't happened yet :-D If you want to be as mindlessly trouble-free as possible try Mac OS X or QNX. | Especially if he installed NVIDIA drivers manually. Is there something wrong with that? I don't think so. A short pop up with 'You need to reinstall your third party nvidia driver after installing this xorg mandatory update' would do the work. Nothing wrong with it, but if you've manually installed something, you have voluntarily removed yourself from The Realm Of The Fully Automated by choice, and you then must continue to maintain that out-of-the-automatic experience yourself. How exactly is it YaST's (or SuSE's) fault that it doesn't account for third-party packages installed by people? They'll never be able to keep track of all the millions of packages that *could* be installed separately by the user. Ok, perhaps they could /specifically/ watch out for the RPM version of the nVidia and ATI drivers, but what if it was compiled from a tarball? If you or I might think that YaST should watch out for graphics drivers because they're the most important, but then someone else will say Hey my proprietary Winmodem driver is just as important, and then network cards, sound cards and the list will grow and grow. And what about all the other programs in the world that a user might install with rpm or even compile himself (my favorite is when people install Fedora RPMs or something else they get from rpmfind.net on SuSE or things like that) that would break some user's *very*important* app/game/virtual-something? JW -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] WARNING! - Latest Update Kills Server
On Thursday 24 January 2008 12:39:51 you wrote: Jonathan Wilson schrieb: Supposed to? yes, but in case you haven't noticed, it hasn't happened yet :-D snip My post was also meant just as a thought and not as a particular request. snip Ok I'm out of it. I've said what I had to say...and to put it ignorant way: My X-Server is running, thus why should I care at all? I do hope you realize, my dear fellow, that none of this was aimed at you personally, at all. Just a statement for the sake of discussion, not anything to be upset or worried about. :-) If SuSE /could/ come up with a way to watch out for these things, of course it would make it easier for all users in the long run. It's just not an easy task. Thanks, JW -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] WARNING! - Latest Update Kills Server
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 10:22:48 D Henson wrote: The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server. No, it didn't - at least not if you mean it killed your whole system. What you /probably/ mean is that you updated either the kernel, or some part of the X system, and now it won't run the X server. First, it would help if you told us what you upgraded. Second, it would help if you told us what kind of video card you have. Is it single or dual head (one monitor or two)? The output of lspci would be helpful. Have you considered reconfiguring your X server with sax2 ? Make a backup of your current xorg.conf first: cp -a /etc/X11/xorg.conf /tmp/ Thanks, JW -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com http://jwadmin.blogspot.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KitchenSync
On Saturday 19 January 2008 21:30:59 Chris Arnold wrote: I don't have a Q or use KDE, but what OS does the Q run? Windows Mobile? Yep, WM5 If so, I don't know very many folks that have successfully synced a Windows Mobile device with Linux. I am finding it that it may not work Hopefully it can be done. Good luck ;-) I hope so. Still trying I had my iPaq (WM5) syncing with SuSE 10, I think it was. The sync frameworks have been changing for years, it drives me crazy trying to keep up with it. First it was *old* KitchenSync, then is was MultiSync, then it was OpenSync. I guess they re-worked one of them (Multi-?) and renamed it to KitchenSync again. You might consider asking on the KDE-PIM mailing list I believe when I had it working it was using SyncE, another project that specifically focused on PocketPC/WinCE/WM. I think I had it working over bluetooth, but I can't quite remember. SyncE used to come with SuSE, but I think I downloaded the latest anyway. You might be able to glean some information on www.handhelds.org. Please note that www.handhelds.org is NOT catering to people running WM or Palm, it's for people running Linux on their PDAs. But in spite of that there is lots of good info in their Wiki and links to other projects. JW -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Disable KSnapshot-Print Screen connection
On Thursday 17 January 2008 09:32:44 Frank Fiene wrote: On Donnerstag 17 Januar 2008, David C. Rankin wrote: The Thursday 2008-01-17 at 15:34 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Window Screenshotalt+print Desktop Screenshotctrl+print Nothing happens. I would expect ksnapshot --current for alt+print and just kshapshot for ctrl+print. Yes, and in kcontrol this is defined in exactly this way! :-( Alt-print screen (sysrq) is used by the kernel according to /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt, so it's unavailable for X. I have no idea about ctrl-print though. I asked on the KDE list and this is a general KDE setting. You might bug them about it. -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Disable KSnapshot-Print Screen connection
Hello, I have a user running KDE on openSuSE 10.3 who needs the print screen button NOT do anything when pressed. Right now it brings up KSnapshot. I've looked all over in the KDE Control Center, both with the search and Can't find anything about it. Oddly enough I do find Alt+Print and Ctrl+Print in the keybindings list and they don't seem to do anything. But I can't find the place where Print Screen is mapped to KSnapshopt. If I search for ksnapshot in the help-center search it does lead me to the Keyboard Shortcuts screen but I've looked all through it and can't find it. Is this a SuSE-specific setting or a general KDE one? Thanks, JW -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com http://jwadmin.blogspot.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Upgrading from 10.2 to 10.3
Is http://en.opensuse.org/Updating_SUSE_Linux the recommended/favorite way to upgrade from 10.2 to 10.3? Is a DVD/cd upgrade better for any reason (more reliable maybe)? Thanks, JW -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: future of xmms
What is the alternative to xmms? As my disk collapsed I was intending installing 10.3 asap; just wondering what else will be lost. Boy, there sure are a lot of media players for Linux. I use Amarok and Banshee. Has anyone ever done a big comparison of the various ones? Probably not recently - I also like kaffeine (kde front end to xine) I'm a musician and have used xmms for years for practice (I play along with various recordings). Crazy as it sounds, I actually use Amarox for media management (I like it, it's a cross between iTunes (a little too rigid) and xmms playlists (a little too loose). I then drag and drop the files I want to practice with into xmms. The one and only reason for that, is, that with xmms I can use the keyboard to seek forward and backwards while the song is playing. So if I have to practice a small difficult section of a song I can just tap the left-arrow key and hear it again. I can't do that in Amarok, even in the little player window, which is disappointing. However, this thread got me to looking for a replacement, and I've found KPlayer which fills that need for me. So I guess I just moved from xmms to KPlayer :-) -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com http://jwadmin.blogspot.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] LiveCD of 10.3?
I'm trying to figure out if 10.3 will support an Intel 4965AGN wireless chipset. I'm having a terrible time getting it to work with 10. I looked on the opensuse.org site and it's not very clear to me - is there a LiveCD of 10.3? Can the Install DVD be booted up into a LiveCD system? Thanks, JW -- -- Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Ext3 vs Reiser FS
I've used ReiserFS on . . oh, probably nearly 100 computers in the past decade, and I've never had a FS failure that was the fault of ReiserFS - I've lost data on ReiserFS drives only due to: 1) Bad memory (most common) 2) Dying hard drives (would have died no matter what FS) 3) Dying mainboards (verified by the fact that various parts of the system fried and then things got worse after that) On the otherhand I have had ext2 and ext3 do weird things even during normal use. And I can't stand the periodic fscheck. Several years ago when ext2 was the only way to go, a kernel hacker, I believe it was Daniel Phillips, started a file system named Tux2. It was the end-all be-all of file systems: It was designed to handle any problems. He said you'd be able to just power off your computer with the power switch instead of halting and unmounting the disks and everything would be fine. I emailed him about it a few years ago, asking if he was still working on it, and his response was that he quit working on it because ReiserFS had taken over the task and was going to work out just as good or better. I wish I could get ahold of him and ask him what he thinks now. I tried searching the web for him and can't find a current email address. I don't want to ask on the lkm, I'll probably get flamed :-) Hopefully either a) Someone will continue Reiser4 or b) ext4 will solve all these problems someday. I hope ext4 is not another upgrade on top of ext2/3 the way ext3 was for ext2. I sure wish /someone/ would write one good file system that can be trusted, fast, stable, and no fsck or other wait timeout on booting. The whole FS thing has been a pain for years. JW -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Best hardware DB to contribute to?
I tend to install SuSE on a few laptops every year and decided I might contribute my little bit of experience in this area to some online database of this-hardware-works, this-other-doesn't. There's several online, and I don't have time to contribute to them all. Does anyone have a suggestion about which one I should use? JW -- -- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] On-topic list, anyone?
Does anyone know of a mailing list for discussing technical issues about SuSE, that is on-topic only (no OT postings)? Anyone interested in starting one? It's kind weird - I'm on a great deal of mailing lists (have been for years), and just recently (past few weeks) there's been long, flame wars about off-topic threads (this is list on-topic only no it's not banter) on several of them. Must be an internet-wide conspiracy, it's gotten into everyone at once :-) -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] function in .bashrc
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 09:40, Vince Oliver wrote: I would like to put a function into .bashrc file that would open a new Konsole in SUSE10.2 and cd into the result of the pwd command. Something like: pwdinnk() { p=`pwd` echo $p `dcop $KONSOLE_DCOP newSession` cd $p } Everything works except it does not change the directory. `cd $p` does not work nither. Do you have some tips? Given the indirectness of using DCOP to launch a new Konsole or create a new Konsole tab, I think the best you're going to be able to do is set up something in your .bashrc that looks for a file I'm not sure if this is helpful or not, because I don't know what Vince is really trying to do, or if he *has* to use DCOP. But if this helps any, I came across this the other day on accident: kfmclient --commands You can do a rather fascinating number of things through kfmclient, including opening a new tab in an existing Konqeror window. kfmclient newTab 'url' kfmclient exec . Single quotes work as well as ticks ( ' ), he could do something like: kfmclient newTab $p I have almost no idea what kfmclient is or how it is supposed to be used, but it doesn't seem to cause any harm. Maybe it would work for Vince. JW -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com http://jwadmin.blogspot.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Okay tape experts, I need help understanding this
All, My IBM Ultrium LTO-1 drive under 10.1 can't read what it wrote under 8.2? Any ideas? Does anyone have any idea why I can't read these tapes with a 10.1 kernel? FYI: I also did a rescue boot to 10.2 and tried. Failed to read accurately there as well. Thanks Greg How did you write the tape in the first place - what command or script did you use? Did you dd a whole hard disk onto the tape? using if=/dev/hda or something? -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2: YOU resets /root/ permissions?
So I have written a small service script to check the ink level every 60 seconds, Point 1: Is there a better way to get this information (I'm just asking)? and log that to a file in /root/. /root is where I keep all my system setting notes and system scripts, and I considder the ink level log a system wide thing. Point 2. The ink level log would be a a system wide thing (for you), but /root is not. Can you log to a more appropriate place - /var/log/linklog, for example (process logs most often go in /var/log)? If you don't like /var/log for some reason, there are other places - /pub, /tmp, /usr/local - even make a whole new folder /inklog and put it there. I wish for alle users to be able to see the ink level log. Understood. But do they need to see everything else in /root? At this time you probably think you know everyone who uses the system, but what if an unauthorized, or for that matter even an unexpected (childeren, guests) person ever gets on? Do you want them to see your privet ssh keys and other encryption information? Your shell history? Thus the changed permissions of /root. There is nothing secret in /root that I am aware of. Is this system ever on the internet? Maybe you don't care if the system in question is broken into, but is it connected via network to other machines that you do care about? Maybe other workstations that have sensitive or personal information? I also wish to keep the number of directories to back up to a minimum -- /root and /home. I understand. But if that's your reason, why would you be backing up a log file that's being overwritten every 60 seconds anyway? -JW -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Scanner for Linux
Lívio Cipriano wrote: Any suggestions for an USB 2.0 scanner for Linux? For the record, on the inexpensive side of things, the Canon LiDE-25 works great too with recent sane versions (out-of-the-box on 10.2). The LiDE-20 and various older models such as the N676U and N650U have worked out of the box for the last several versions. I really like the CanoScan units, they make pretty good images on Linux, Mac and Windows ( I love non-OS-specific hardware :-) ) - JW -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] CPU reviews or comparisons for the average Linux user?
Hey all, I'm trying to find some useful reviews comparing CPUs (hopefully a broad selection, not just the 3 latest out of any given factory) for the average Linux office-progam desktop user. Reviews that take the 2 very latest Intel and AMD DualCores and compre them to each other are pretty much worthless for most people - it's like comparing apples from different sides of the same tree (or off the same branch). I don't care how fast a CPU runs 3D programs, Games and Video/Audio encoding. What runs KDE the fastest when you have all the standard office applications running (FireFox, OpenOffice, Kontact) and SpamAssassin starts sucking the life out of your box when Kontact checks for new mail? Yes, there are plenty of reviews out there, but most of them do not tell me if the latest Dual-Core 64-bit Whoppie runs Kcalc, emacs or apache faster than my ailing P4 3.2 Ghz. Most of them focus on gaming, 3D, floating point intensive Windows applications. I'm not interested in that. Does anyone have any links or personal experience they'd like to share? Thanks, JW -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software www.cedarcreeksoftware.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]