Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote
At 11:07 AM 6/06/2006, you wrote: Martin Schlander wrote: > Henne's proposal is > good - but we should learn from our mistakes and enhance it a little bit. > > opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help maybe this would be better if it was -> opensuse-helpusers so people know it's help for users and not help for the opensuse mailing system? Oh, yes, and I think the base list should still exist, but only as a autoreply explaining the different lists and what they are for. scsijon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote
Tirsdag 06 juni 2006 20:50 skrev Thomas Hertweck: > .From my point of view, this is not such a good idea. For many mailing > lists the address -help@ is used to automatically send a short > help with instructions on how to use the mailing list Good point. perhaps instead: opensuse-techsupport@ or suse-linux-techssupport@ Or are we back at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I see that's how Ubuntu does it - so I guess that can't be confusing to anybody. Or maybe just leave opensuse@ to the raving hordes, and move the openSUSE-project discussions to opensuse-project@ It's not easy but I think it's important that we get it right this time. > I can't see a problem with > some technical questions here; the useless discussions, flames, and all > the unnecessary blabla are much more annoying than technical questions. If we had ~4000 mails per month about techsupport you would find it more annoying. And I'm pretty sure that would soon be the result if we were to "let go". Martin / cb400f - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote
jdd wrote: > [...] > > the most evident word (internationally accepted) is "help". > So there should be an "opensuse-help" list. .From my point of view, this is not such a good idea. For many mailing lists the address -help@ is used to automatically send a short help with instructions on how to use the mailing list software and/or a short FAQ to a user. For instance, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is such an address. Thus, IMO there should be no actual list with that name, that's again misleading (at least for people having some experiences with mailing lists). Two additional comments on some related subjects: a) I can understand Randall's arguments and I think he's technically correct. I won't comment on the tone of the whole discussion. b) I don't think that renaming etc. or removing this list will solve all problems. There should be a list where users can ask all general questions about openSUSE, whether these questions are about the project or whatever. Most people with general questions do not subscribe to all the different mailing lists. This is a fact. In Principle, I can't see a problem with some technical questions here; the useless discussions, flames, and all the unnecessary blabla are much more annoying than technical questions. Cheers, Th. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote
Henne Vogelsang wrote: If we exchange names in there (foo-help instead of foo-users or foo-project as default instead of foo) does not matter too much. From the technical side this is a no-brainer. I just need an overall layout i can follow. the most evident word (internationally accepted) is "help". So there should be an "opensuse-help" list. This one will probably be used default by most users. added to the new template (see other thread) that advetise only this list (suse-linux-e for the moment, but we may change that at will), most post should go there. and if anybody go there and need an other list, people should say it to him. Henne, sorry to stole the thread, but, I'm fairly sure you will read this, and it's for you. Writting the template I notice that to unsubscribe, one must look at the headers. why not give directly the link in the mail footer? advertising that it's easy to unsubscribe may make people join. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=GĂ©rer_ses_photos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote
Hi, On Tuesday, June 06, 2006 at 03:07:51, Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no wrote: > Martin Schlander wrote: > > Henne's proposal is > > good - but we should learn from our mistakes and enhance it a little bit. > > > > opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help > > > > opensuse@ -> opensuse-project > > > > Who's gonna misunderstand that? > This is the best suggestion so far. > > To get rid of of all confusion we must kill opensuse. - And by that I > mean the list, and not the other thingy. ;-) > > Henne: I hope you are reading and agree to this. I don't think it's such > a good idea to first change it to opensuse-technical and then discuss it > again, a better soulution has presented itself (IMO)... So we owe it to > ourselves to do it right when we set this plan in motion. Im not against any idea to change the mailinglist layout we are going to use. What i need is a layout that scales. Scales over projects and languages. I proposed such a layout a while ago. If we exchange names in there (foo-help instead of foo-users or foo-project as default instead of foo) does not matter too much. From the technical side this is a no-brainer. I just need an overall layout i can follow. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Core Services "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar (The Wire) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote
Martin Schlander wrote: > Henne's proposal is > good - but we should learn from our mistakes and enhance it a little bit. > > opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help > > opensuse@ -> opensuse-project > > Who's gonna misunderstand that? This is the best suggestion so far. To get rid of of all confusion we must kill opensuse. - And by that I mean the list, and not the other thingy. ;-) Henne: I hope you are reading and agree to this. I don't think it's such a good idea to first change it to opensuse-technical and then discuss it again, a better soulution has presented itself (IMO)... So we owe it to ourselves to do it right when we set this plan in motion. -- Regards Kenneth Aar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]