Re: [opensuse] 10.2 on a Dell Dimension 8100

2006-12-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 22:14 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

> I am thinking I may try to use a CD for this. But as I leave for the
> in-laws this weekend, I may not push my lick.

(Sounds like the undercover French cop in "'Allo 'Allo."...) I meant
'luck'.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 on a Dell Dimension 8100

2006-12-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 13:45 -0500, Darko Gavrilovic wrote:
> On 12/18/06, George Stoianov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Have you updated to latest BIOS?
> >
> > BTW having the latest BIOS can actually cause problems, in some cases,
> > as the refresh rates can be changed and it may caused at least in my
> > case it did a problem of not being able to run a graphical
> > environment.
> 
> Thats true. Though I my experiece, with SUSE on a Dell, I had graphics
> problems which fixed themselves with the Bios update. So it varies.

But a messed-up BIOS can be a real pain to revert.

> > Thought I mention this, in your case you are already running 10.1 so
> > that is probably not related.

This is what I thought.

> > If your media is OK try using it on a different PC if you have a spare,

This I have done. As well as doing a media check in the same PC from
Yast in 10.1. It likes the DVD.

I am thinking I may try to use a CD for this. But as I leave for the
in-laws this weekend, I may not push my lick.


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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 on a Dell Dimension 8100

2006-12-18 Thread Darko Gavrilovic

On 12/18/06, George Stoianov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Have you updated to latest BIOS?

BTW having the latest BIOS can actually cause problems, in some cases,
as the refresh rates can be changed and it may caused at least in my
case it did a problem of not being able to run a graphical
environment.


Thats true. Though I my experiece, with SUSE on a Dell, I had graphics
problems which fixed themselves with the Bios update. So it varies.



Thought I mention this, in your case you are already running 10.1 so
that is probably not related.

If your media is OK try using it on a different PC if you have a spare,
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 on a Dell Dimension 8100

2006-12-18 Thread George Stoianov

Have you updated to latest BIOS?


BTW having the latest BIOS can actually cause problems, in some cases,
as the refresh rates can be changed and it may caused at least in my
case it did a problem of not being able to run a graphical
environment.

Thought I mention this, in your case you are already running 10.1 so
that is probably not related.

If your media is OK try using it on a different PC if you have a spare,
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 on a Dell Dimension 8100

2006-12-18 Thread Darko Gavrilovic

On 12/18/06, Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 22:00 +0100, Reinhard Gimbel wrote:
> Hello community !
>
> Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
>
> > I have a Dell Dimension 8100 (P4, old nvidia card - nothing fancy) at
> > home on which I always run the current SUSE. I tried to install 10.2,
> > but did not get very far. I get the menu to install. No matter which
> > method I choose, the install stops directly after the initial box
> > showing that the kernel is loaded. The screen is blank, and I cannot get
> > to the other virtual terminals to see anything. I tested the DVD in
> > Yast, and it said the media was OK. Any other way I could see what is
> > failing?
>
> Did you try the rescue system, too ?
>
> If this fails, try the option
>
> pci=noacpi
>
> Years ago I had trouble while installing an older version of SuSE. At
> that time pci=noacpi solved my problem ...
>
> Memtest is also worth a try ...

I have tried this to no avail. I can do the memtest, and all is reported
as ok. But any other thing exhibits the same problem. Load the kernel
and then a blank screen. I have tried getting to the other virtual
terminals to see if it is just the screen driver that is the problem.
Nothing. I also tried moving the DVD drive to a different IDE connector
to see if it was some off primary/secondary master/slave thing. That
made no difference. So, perhaps it will have to stay at 10.1. I plan on
setting this up for the in-laws over Christmas and wanted to be rather
recent.


Have you updated to latest BIOS?



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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 on a Dell Dimension 8100

2006-12-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 22:00 +0100, Reinhard Gimbel wrote:
> Hello community !
> 
> Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> 
> > I have a Dell Dimension 8100 (P4, old nvidia card - nothing fancy) at
> > home on which I always run the current SUSE. I tried to install 10.2,
> > but did not get very far. I get the menu to install. No matter which
> > method I choose, the install stops directly after the initial box
> > showing that the kernel is loaded. The screen is blank, and I cannot get
> > to the other virtual terminals to see anything. I tested the DVD in
> > Yast, and it said the media was OK. Any other way I could see what is
> > failing?
> 
> Did you try the rescue system, too ?
> 
> If this fails, try the option
> 
> pci=noacpi
> 
> Years ago I had trouble while installing an older version of SuSE. At
> that time pci=noacpi solved my problem ...
> 
> Memtest is also worth a try ...

I have tried this to no avail. I can do the memtest, and all is reported
as ok. But any other thing exhibits the same problem. Load the kernel
and then a blank screen. I have tried getting to the other virtual
terminals to see if it is just the screen driver that is the problem.
Nothing. I also tried moving the DVD drive to a different IDE connector
to see if it was some off primary/secondary master/slave thing. That
made no difference. So, perhaps it will have to stay at 10.1. I plan on
setting this up for the in-laws over Christmas and wanted to be rather
recent.

> Never give up !

I never do. Unless I do.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 on a Dell Dimension 8100

2006-12-11 Thread Reinhard Gimbel
Hello community !

Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

> I have a Dell Dimension 8100 (P4, old nvidia card - nothing fancy) at
> home on which I always run the current SUSE. I tried to install 10.2,
> but did not get very far. I get the menu to install. No matter which
> method I choose, the install stops directly after the initial box
> showing that the kernel is loaded. The screen is blank, and I cannot get
> to the other virtual terminals to see anything. I tested the DVD in
> Yast, and it said the media was OK. Any other way I could see what is
> failing?

Did you try the rescue system, too ?

If this fails, try the option

pci=noacpi

Years ago I had trouble while installing an older version of SuSE. At
that time pci=noacpi solved my problem ...

Memtest is also worth a try ...
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[opensuse] 10.2 on a Dell Dimension 8100

2006-12-10 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

I have a Dell Dimension 8100 (P4, old nvidia card - nothing fancy) at
home on which I always run the current SUSE. I tried to install 10.2,
but did not get very far. I get the menu to install. No matter which
method I choose, the install stops directly after the initial box
showing that the kernel is loaded. The screen is blank, and I cannot get
to the other virtual terminals to see anything. I tested the DVD in
Yast, and it said the media was OK. Any other way I could see what is
failing?

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