Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marcus, I know ;-) If you know, why is it necessary to have Open Office installed in order to have KDE installed ? I still have the problem w/ 10.2 that I must install Open Office or it will not install KDE. How are they connected, and can/will it be fixed in the future, pretty please? I need KDE, I don't need any , repeat, ANY office suite. It's a very weird connection to me. That is I can't see , and do not recall any part of OO that is required for KDE. However, since I don't use OO I *might* have missed the notice. If there is a requirement, I'd like to know waht it is. TIA, y'all, Disable the KDE Desktop pattern and do only a minimal KDE install. IF you want a full-blown KDE Desktop, you get OOo as well, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpnipW9GFreG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
John Andersen wrote: [...] So what's your point? Did you see me say it was part of the kernel? I raised the question because your statement Beagle [...] and something else [...] were missing from 2.6.21, Msg-ID [EMAIL PROTECTED], did indeed sound to me as if you were trying to say that Beagle is part of the kernel and it's now missing in the latest KOTD. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
John Andersen wrote: [...kernel 2.6.21...] Even if it is stable, there are some packages missing which makes it unusable for some things. Beagle (no great loss imho) was missing and something else, which escapes me (but was a show stopper) were missing from 2.6.21. Beagle is part of the kernel?? I thought that's a desktop search engine based on *argh* Mono... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
Hi, On 4/16/07, Thomas Hertweck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beagle is part of the kernel?? No. I thought that's a desktop search engine based on *argh* Mono... Yes. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
On Monday 16 April 2007, Thomas Hertweck wrote: John Andersen wrote: [...kernel 2.6.21...] Even if it is stable, there are some packages missing which makes it unusable for some things. Beagle (no great loss imho) was missing and something else, which escapes me (but was a show stopper) were missing from 2.6.21. Beagle is part of the kernel?? I thought that's a desktop search engine based on *argh* Mono... Well try upgrading to that kernel and you will see what I mean. -- _ John Andersen pgp2cKk0MjzYX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 12:24:02PM -0800, John Andersen wrote: On Monday 16 April 2007, Thomas Hertweck wrote: John Andersen wrote: [...kernel 2.6.21...] Even if it is stable, there are some packages missing which makes it unusable for some things. Beagle (no great loss imho) was missing and something else, which escapes me (but was a show stopper) were missing from 2.6.21. Beagle is part of the kernel?? I thought that's a desktop search engine based on *argh* Mono... Well try upgrading to that kernel and you will see what I mean. Beagle is not part of the kernel. Beagle uses the inotify API, which is part of the kernel. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
On Mon April 16 2007, Marcus Meissner scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 12:24:02PM -0800, John Andersen wrote: On Monday 16 April 2007, Thomas Hertweck wrote: John Andersen wrote: [...kernel 2.6.21...] snip Beagle is not part of the kernel. Beagle uses the inotify API, which is part of the kernel. Marcus, If you know, why is it necessary to have Open Office installed in order to have KDE installed ? I still have the problem w/ 10.2 that I must install Open Office or it will not install KDE. How are they connected, and can/will it be fixed in the future, pretty please? I need KDE, I don't need any , repeat, ANY office suite. It's a very weird connection to me. That is I can't see , and do not recall any part of OO that is required for KDE. However, since I don't use OO I *might* have missed the notice. If there is a requirement, I'd like to know waht it is. TIA, y'all, -- j I've lived in the real world enough, we're all here because we ain't all there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
On Monday 16 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon April 16 2007, Marcus Meissner scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 12:24:02PM -0800, John Andersen wrote: On Monday 16 April 2007, Thomas Hertweck wrote: John Andersen wrote: [...kernel 2.6.21...] snip Beagle is not part of the kernel. Beagle uses the inotify API, which is part of the kernel. Marcus, If you know, why is it necessary to have Open Office installed in order to have KDE installed ? I still have the problem w/ 10.2 that I must install Open Office or it will not install KDE. How are they connected, and can/will it be fixed in the future, pretty please? I need KDE, I don't need any , repeat, ANY office suite. It's a very weird connection to me. That is I can't see , and do not recall any part of OO that is required for KDE. However, since I don't use OO I *might* have missed the notice. If there is a requirement, I'd like to know waht it is. TIA, y'all, Hi jf, I'm guessing that you have installed the program that gives OOo a KDE look when you use it. Otherwise, there should be no dependency with OOo. I'm sorry I don't remember the name of the file right now, but can look if you don't find it. That would be the only reason I could think of or another program associated with OOo in KDE you have inadvertently installed. Hope that helps, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
On Mon April 16 2007, BandiPat scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: On Monday 16 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon April 16 2007, Marcus Meissner scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 12:24:02PM -0800, John Andersen wrote: On Monday 16 April 2007, Thomas Hertweck wrote: John Andersen wrote: [...kernel 2.6.21...] snip Beagle is not part of the kernel. Beagle uses the inotify API, which is part of the kernel. Marcus, If you know, why is it necessary to have Open Office installed in order to have KDE installed ? I still have the problem w/ 10.2 that I must install Open Office or it will not install KDE. How are they connected, and can/will it be fixed in the future, pretty please? I need KDE, I don't need any , repeat, ANY office suite. It's a very weird connection to me. That is I can't see , and do not recall any part of OO that is required for KDE. However, since I don't use OO I *might* have missed the notice. If there is a requirement, I'd like to know waht it is. TIA, y'all, Hi jf, I'm guessing that you have installed the program that gives OOo a KDE look when you use it. Otherwise, there should be no dependency with OOo. I'm sorry I don't remember the name of the file right now, but can look if you don't find it. That would be the only reason I could think of or another program associated with OOo in KDE you have inadvertently installed. I'm going to go snipe hunting then ;-) However, this is from the basic install, if you do not let it install OO, you wind up w/ XFCE or similar as a window manager, it just will not let KDE be installed , nor, once installed , can one uninstall OO and keep KDE as a window manager. It just blew my mind, but I have had it happen on two boxes now.. -- j I've lived in the real world enough, we're all here because we ain't all there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
On Monday 16 April 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 12:24:02PM -0800, John Andersen wrote: On Monday 16 April 2007, Thomas Hertweck wrote: John Andersen wrote: [...kernel 2.6.21...] Even if it is stable, there are some packages missing which makes it unusable for some things. Beagle (no great loss imho) was missing and something else, which escapes me (but was a show stopper) were missing from 2.6.21. Beagle is part of the kernel?? I thought that's a desktop search engine based on *argh* Mono... Well try upgrading to that kernel and you will see what I mean. Beagle is not part of the kernel. Beagle uses the inotify API, which is part of the kernel. So what's your point? Did you see me say it was part of the kernel? Attempting to install .21 will cause yast to insist on un-installing beagle. That was my experience last time I tried. There were no sources for a compatible beagle. Beagle wasn't even my primary concern, there were other things that yast insisted had to be un-installed, which were show stoppers for me. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
Sorry to ask this again, but can't seem to find a straight answer in the archives for this related thread. Is the stable 2.6.20.6 kernel available for 10.2 as an RPM? The current factory build on software.opensuse.org is the latest cutting edge 2.6.21 - is this usable? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 on 10.2 (again)
On Friday 13 April 2007, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Sorry to ask this again, but can't seem to find a straight answer in the archives for this related thread. Is the stable 2.6.20.6 kernel available for 10.2 as an RPM? The current factory build on software.opensuse.org is the latest cutting edge 2.6.21 - is this usable? Even if it is stable, there are some packages missing which makes it unusable for some things. Beagle (no great loss imho) was missing and something else, which escapes me (but was a show stopper) were missing from 2.6.21. I decided to bag it on .21 for a while. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
John Andersen schrieb: http://software.opensuse.org/download/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_10.2/ I've also running the 2.6.20.2-104-default w/o any problems till now. But I' just forgot to download the rpm and the src.rpm. Now I noticed there is only the 2.6.21 rc available. I have both the kernel and the source installed, however I'd like to have a local backup of it. Does anybody know a link to those files or could make it available to me on his/her ftp? I have an own ftp however the upload speed would be something like 40kb/s. :( Thx in advance Jan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
On Thursday 29 March 2007 06:49, John Andersen wrote: On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Rui Santos wrote: John Andersen wrote: Is there a stable 2.6.20 kernel for openSuse 10.2, and has anyone had any good/bad experience with it? I'm usinsg 2.6.20.2-67-default provided by openSUSE at http://software.opensuse.org/download/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_10.2/ What is the meaning of the /HEAD/ in that url. That this is the source tree where the suse/novell developers add their new stuff, import from kernel.org etc. It's the kernel that is on its way to the next version I note that in that same tree there are debian kernels. What's THAT all about? Did you totally miss what the build service is all about? It is a generic build service, capable of building packages for many distros, not just opensuse. In the downloads you'll find packages for opensuse, debian, red hat, mandriva etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
Op Wednesday 28 March 2007 23:17:25 schreef Rui Santos: Richard Bos wrote: Op Wednesday 28 March 2007 12:00:21 schreef Rui Santos: I'm using it for a month now, with very good results. The exception is NFS performance. What issues do see, and when? Have you been able to compare the NFS behaviour with previous kernel versions? Yes I was. With the original 2.6.18 openSUSE10.2 kernel, my machine acting as NFS client, copied files to the NFS Server at 10.xMB/sec ( 100 Mbit network). With the 2.6.20 kernel it copy's at a max of 500KB/sec. The only difference is the kernel version. The machine is the same. Do you know anything that might be able to help me? The NFS Server is a SuSE Linux 9.3 using it's standard kernel. Not myself. But perhaps this bug report https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=231234 may be of any help? -- Richard Bos We are borrowing the world of our children, It is not inherited from our parents. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
Hey did you have wifi problems when you used 2.6.21-rc5-git2-31-default? My madwifi and ipw3945 stopped even though it appears to be installed according to YaST, thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
Jay Smith wrote: Hey did you have wifi problems when you used 2.6.21-rc5-git2-31-default? My madwifi and ipw3945 stopped even though it appears to be installed according to YaST, thanks. Sorry, don't have wifi... -- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/ Veni, vidi, Linux! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
Is there a stable 2.6.20 kernel for openSuse 10.2, and has anyone had any good/bad experience with it? -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
John Andersen wrote: Is there a stable 2.6.20 kernel for openSuse 10.2, and has anyone had any good/bad experience with it? I'm usinsg 2.6.20.2-67-default provided by openSUSE at http://software.opensuse.org/download/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_10.2/ I'm using it for a month now, with very good results. The exception is NFS performance. I'm also using 2.6.21-rc5 on my home machine, with great results so far. The problem of that repository is that there is only one version available... The latest... so, I don't know where one can find the 2.6.20.2-default kernel I now use. openSUSE folks: Is there any archive we can access for the purpose of getting previous HEAD kernel versions ? -- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
Op Wednesday 28 March 2007 12:00:21 schreef Rui Santos: I'm using it for a month now, with very good results. The exception is NFS performance. What issues do see, and when? Have you been able to compare the NFS behaviour with previous kernel versions? -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
Richard Bos wrote: Op Wednesday 28 March 2007 12:00:21 schreef Rui Santos: I'm using it for a month now, with very good results. The exception is NFS performance. What issues do see, and when? Have you been able to compare the NFS behaviour with previous kernel versions? Yes I was. With the original 2.6.18 openSUSE10.2 kernel, my machine acting as NFS client, copied files to the NFS Server at 10.xMB/sec ( 100 Mbit network). With the 2.6.20 kernel it copy's at a max of 500KB/sec. The only difference is the kernel version. The machine is the same. Do you know anything that might be able to help me? The NFS Server is a SuSE Linux 9.3 using it's standard kernel. Thanks for your interest Rui Santos -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
John Andersen wrote: Is there a stable 2.6.20 kernel for openSuse 10.2, and has anyone had any good/bad experience with it? I've been using the Default 2.6.20.x kernel since RC2 and it has been very good. No problems and very stable. -- (o:]*HUGGLES*[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 2.6.20 for 10.2?
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Rui Santos wrote: John Andersen wrote: Is there a stable 2.6.20 kernel for openSuse 10.2, and has anyone had any good/bad experience with it? I'm usinsg 2.6.20.2-67-default provided by openSUSE at http://software.opensuse.org/download/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_10.2/ What is the meaning of the /HEAD/ in that url. I note that in that same tree there are debian kernels. What's THAT all about? It has been suggested by the Vmware bunch that the famous 5 minute freeze of the entire X server on a dual core machine can be avoided by us of .20 or later. (I'm not sure I totally believe them). -- _ John Andersen pgpFMC5yAc8FS.pgp Description: PGP signature
