[opensuse] Dell Opens a Poll On Linux Options
"In response to overwhelming user demand for Linux, Dell has posted a survey on a company blog that asks 'PC users to choose between Linux flavors such as Novell and openSUSE". More at: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Dell Opens a Poll On Linux Options
"In response to overwhelming user demand for Linux, Dell has posted a survey on a company blog that asks 'PC users to choose between Linux flavors such as Novell and openSUSE". More at: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux Of course Dell is smart enough to realize that web polls are worth a pile of something warm and stinky but anything that will draw people to their site is worth doing. If you don't have a legitimate interest/intention in buying a Dell with Linux preloaded then you shouldn't vote in the survey; a stuffed ballot box is obvious to anyone. Which I think explains: "overwhelming user demand for Linux" in the first place, but... it got them an appearance on Slashdot. Score one for the Dell marketing department. I'm not going to vote because (a) I'm never going to buy a Dell and (b) I don't care what OS comes preloaded since I'm going to wipe it anyway and reinstall. Anyone who matches (a) *or* (b) should also refrain from voting. --- Adam Tauno Williams Consultant - http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com Developer - http://www.opengroupware.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Dell Opens a Poll On Linux Options
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 19:49, Adam Williams wrote: > I'm not going to vote because (a) I'm never going to buy a Dell and > (b) I don't care what OS comes preloaded since I'm going to wipe it > anyway and reinstall. Anyone who matches (a) *or* (b) should also > refrain from voting. Yes, that's right, let's all sit back and allow the MS Tax to continue. Let's not let anyone know how many we are, then we are free to grumble for all eternity that so-and-so many dollars out of every computer purchase go to Redmond regardless of what we actually use on it In fact, let's not tell anyone anything about what we do. Let's all just download in all quietness, set firefox to identify itself as internet explorer, and pretend we're using Vista. With a little luck, following your lead, in a few years, we won't have any support from any vendor regarding anything. Won't that be fun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Dell Opens a Poll On Linux Options
On 3/14/07, Adam Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not going to vote because (a) I'm never going to buy a Dell and (b) I don't care what OS comes preloaded since I'm going to wipe it anyway and reinstall. Anyone who matches (a) *or* (b) should also refrain from voting. (b) is definitely not a good reason not to vote. One of the major issues is driver support for Dell hardware. So especially if you voting for some limited volume distro, it lets Dell know they need to ensure their hardware is supported by the vanilla kernel etc. iirc, I believe I've heard horror stories where the Dell hardware raid drivers were not working well in early 2.6.x kernels. Occasionally someone would boot a linux distro and cause all their data to be lost. Particularily in cases like storage Dell needs to be testing vanilla kernels and ensuring they at minimum do no harm. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Dell Opens a Poll On Linux Options
On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Adam Williams wrote: > Of course Dell is smart enough to realize that web polls are worth a > pile of something warm and stinky but anything that will draw > people to their site is worth doing. Web polls, as are being conducted by Dell are worth quite a bit. You were perhaps thinking they should ask the man in the street? This isn't a political contest, its a request from a vendor for an expression of interest of its customer base. > If you don't have a legitimate interest/intention in buying a Dell > with Linux preloaded then you shouldn't vote in the survey; a stuffed > ballot box is obvious to anyone. This is pure nonsense. Clearly you have an axe to grind with dell, and you are perfectly willing to cut your own nose off with said axe just to see if its sharp. All linux users should vote at the dell site. Doesn't matter who you prefer to buy from. Doesn't matter what you plan to run on your linux box. Doesn't matter which distro you might like to see them offer. What matters is all the linux users in the world can scream at ATI and Nvidia and Broadcom and get absolutely nowhere. But when Michael Dell gets the CEO of Broadcom on the phone and says get rid of the binary blobs or we will take our multimillion dollar contract to Ralink you can bet your bottom dollar they will listen. When ATI sees sales drop off because their goddamed drivers crash and lock up and need end user recompiles you can bet they will spend the extra 1 tenth of a cent to put some storage on their chipset and store the video software in there rather than having it loaded at boot up. Dell has clout. So does HP. Turning up your nose and walking away the instant they show any signs of heeding the linux market is childish, short sighted, and self defeating. Get over yourself. Go vote for the community. -- _ John Andersen pgp023LpGdBk5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Dell Opens a Poll On Linux Options
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 14:49:43 PM -0400, Adam Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'm not going to vote because... (b) I don't care what OS comes > preloaded since I'm going to wipe it anyway and reinstall. isn't this the same as saying "I don't care if I am *forced* to pay a license for the OS which is preloaded, even if I didn't want it and will never use it. And I don't care if I'll have to waste a lot of time patching kernel and drivers because the box contains parts for which ready drivers exist only for those other OSes"? The effectiveness of web polls in general is another issue, of course. Marco -- The right way to make everybody love Free Standards and Free Software: http://digifreedom.net/node/73 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
