Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
On Mon, 12 Feb, 2007 at 19:32:53 -0800, Christopher Dick wrote: --- Carl Hartung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that's going to help, Christopher, I'm beginning to think there's something more elusive going on here. Just a quick me too. I've had more or less the exact same thing happen with my first (and until now only) 10.2 install: * Start install 10.2, with a minimal package selection, no X, no nothing. * install goes according to plan, until initial reboot * system hangs at grub stage 2.. (two dots) * after much mucking about, I finally installed an even more minimal 9.3 on a separate partition, and let *that* install grub, which worked. * adapted the 9.3 grub conf to boot 10.2 This is all from memory, and I have no time to check up on anything in the next couple of days either :P System is a LexCom CV860A Manuals etc do exist online (I know, I saw one once) but information is sparse at http://www.lex.com.tw Questions are starting to run through my mind like... Is the BIOS capable of addressing high addresses on that disk? and Has he verified the disk is being addressed using LBA and not CHS? That sort of thing... I have two more of these running 9.3 and neither have ever had similar problems. I cannot exclude the BIOS from being at fault, though I do suspect something is amiss with the 10.2 grub install process. Unfortunately I don't have access to a USB CDrom, so the only way for me to boot install- or rescue- systems is PXE, which takes... oh round about forever... which is why I haven't pursued the matter much further. Just thought I should chime in. oh yeah: disk and controller on my box are IDE, so I don't think SATA is a factor in this... /Jon -- YMMV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
On Mon February 12 2007 22:32, Christopher Dick wrote: Shuttle XPC model sd32g2 Hi Christopher, Can you please follow the instructions, below, then post the actual mainboard and any revision numbers?... also the BIOS version? http://eu.shuttle.com/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-396/629_read-871/searchcall-12/searchcategory-871/noblendout-1/ I tried figuring it out but don't have time this a.m. to make a project of it. ;-) Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
--- Carl Hartung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon February 12 2007 22:32, Christopher Dick wrote: Shuttle XPC model sd32g2 Hi Christopher, Can you please follow the instructions, below, then post the actual mainboard and any revision numbers?... also the BIOS version? http://eu.shuttle.com/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-396/629_read-871/searchcall-12/searchcategory-871/noblendout-1/ I tried figuring it out but don't have time this a.m. to make a project of it. ;-) I have the SD32G2 with an FD32 v1.x motherboard. That's actually what it says on the motherboard... v1.x The BIOS revision is sd23s306, the latest. Thank you for helping me try to figure this out. Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
On Tue February 13 2007 11:07, Christopher Dick wrote: I have the SD32G2 with an FD32 v1.x motherboard. That's actually what it says on the motherboard... v1.x The BIOS revision is sd23s306, the latest. Thank you for helping me try to figure this out. You're welcome, Christopher... I really wish I could be of more help, here, but Shuttle's website is positively useless... there are downloads available for everything *but* your mainboard. Google located a Chinese page offering driver downloads and BIOS updates for the Shuttle SD32G2 Hao-xin (FD32V1.x) mainboard but it appeared to be a third party site with more advertising bloat than useful info. What you're really after is a product data sheet for that specific mainboard describing the architecture, chipset and primary subsystems including the SATA controller chip. Maybe your supplier can help you out? Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
On Tue February 13 2007 14:17, Christopher Dick wrote: 945G+ICH7 Hi Christopher, I wish I had definitively good news for you, but I've just done a Google search on Linux SATA 945G+ICH7 and pulled up a huge pile of hits that really look like they're worth reading/researching. If you manage to exhaust that pile without fixing the problem (doubt it) try rearranging/massaging the search string. hth regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
--- Carl Hartung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun February 11 2007 23:27, Christopher Dick wrote: As near as I can tell, everything is just fine. But grub just doesn't like Linux on my system. I agree. This stuff all looks fine. Again, it may be related to this bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223773 There's an easy way to check this listed in the bug report... compare the md5sum of the 'active' stage2 against the original: open a shell, 'su' to superuser permissions and: 'cd /boot/grub' 'md5sum stage2' (my result: 66797a774c25457f3b5e7c7f0920db9f stage2) 'md5sum /usr/lib/grub/stage2' (my result: 66797a774c25457f3b5e7c7f0920db9f /usr/lib/grub/stage2) Well, I guess its not this bug, because: md5sum /boot/grub/stage2 /usr/lib/grub/stage2 66797a774c25457f3b5e7c7f0920db9f /boot/grub/stage2 66797a774c25457f3b5e7c7f0920db9f /usr/lib/grub/stage2 I guess its something else. Previous installations had different hashes, I know. Perhaps if I set the grub.conf to point to the /usr/lib/grub version instead of the /boot/grub version? Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
On Mon February 12 2007 19:29, Christopher Dick wrote: I guess its something else. Previous installations had different hashes, I know. Perhaps if I set the grub.conf to point to the /usr/lib/grub version instead of the /boot/grub version? I don't think that's going to help, Christopher, I'm beginning to think there's something more elusive going on here. Questions are starting to run through my mind like... Is the BIOS capable of addressing high addresses on that disk? and Has he verified the disk is being addressed using LBA and not CHS? That sort of thing... What the mainboard make, model and serial number?... or do you have a link to a data sheet on the manufacturer's website? Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
--- Carl Hartung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that's going to help, Christopher, I'm beginning to think there's something more elusive going on here. Questions are starting to run through my mind like... Is the BIOS capable of addressing high addresses on that disk? and Has he verified the disk is being addressed using LBA and not CHS? That sort of thing... What the mainboard make, model and serial number?... or do you have a link to a data sheet on the manufacturer's website? The system is a Shuttle XPC model sd32g2 with an Intel 945G+ICH7 chipset. The basic specs can be found at: http://hq1.shuttle.com/products_page03-spec.jsp?PLLI=9PI=247 The drive is a Seagate SATA 3.0Gb/s model ST380811AS and I have a Lite-on PATA DVD burner. Based on what you wrote above, I went into the BIOS and checked the disk settings. My two choices for drive detection were auto and large. It was on auto. I set it to large, and again, Windows comes up fine, but Linux just sits. So I changed it back. We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
--- frank nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Christopher Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My menu.lst looks like this (for this email, I am not including all the YAST-inserted comments): default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd0,5)/boot/message title openSUSE 10.2 root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-34-default root=/dev/sda Your problem is here. this dhould read; root=/dev/sda6 and should have some other parameters like; vga=0x317 selinux=0 resume=/dev/hda2 splash=verbose showopts I'm trying not to top-post, so hopefully it will be easier to read and understand. Okay, well, I did a complete reinstall again and this is what Yast built for me: # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sun Feb 11 17:14:22 UTC 2007 default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd0,5)/boot/message ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 10.2 root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/sda6 vga=0x31aresume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows### title Windows rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader (hd0,0)+1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.2 root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default root=/dev/sda6 vga=normal showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 edd=off 3 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-34-default -- My device.map is fairly simple: (hd0,0)/dev/sda This is also wrong: Should read (hd0) /dev/sda The device.map is now the way it should be according to your message. -- My grub.conf says: setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,5) quit This is correct. My grub.conf is still the same. Unfortunately, its the same result. In order to boot Linux, I have to use the boot installed system option from either the rescue or installation on the CD and select /dev/sda6 as the boot partition. If I do that, it comes up just fine. If I select OpenSuSE 10.2 from the menu booting without the CD, I get a black screen and it sits there. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
On Sun February 11 2007 19:38, Christopher Dick wrote:
Here is my fstab:
snip
Hi Christopher,
If /etc/fstab is correct, the partitions you're concerned with vis a vis grub
are as follows:
/dev/sda6 = '/' = (hd0,5)
/dev/sda5 = swap = (hd0,4)
From your (edited) latest /boot/grub/menu.lst:
# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sun Feb 11
17:14:22 UTC 2007
default 0
-- '0' here means the first item in the boot menu is the default
(grub starts counting at zero)
timeout 8
-- 8 seconds before the menu times out and the default is booted
gfxmenu (hd0,5)/boot/message
-- this mapping ('gfxmenu' - 'device/directory/file') is working if the boot
menu appears without using the installation CD/DVD
###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier:
Original name: linux###
title openSUSE 10.2
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 vga=0x31a resume=/dev/sda5
splash=silent showopts
initrd /boot/initrd
-- these look correct *as long as* the following are true:
'/' = /dev/sda6 = (hd0,5)
and
swap = /dev/sda5 = (hd0,4)
The only way for this configuration to *not* boot is if YaST has
misinterpreted your partitioning scheme when writing it.
Please boot into SUSE using your CD/DVD, open a shell, 'su' to superuser
permissions, run 'fdisk -l /dev/sda' and copy/paste to post the results here.
regards,
Carl
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Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
On Sun February 11 2007 23:27, Christopher Dick wrote: As near as I can tell, everything is just fine. But grub just doesn't like Linux on my system. I agree. This stuff all looks fine. Again, it may be related to this bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223773 There's an easy way to check this listed in the bug report... compare the md5sum of the 'active' stage2 against the original: open a shell, 'su' to superuser permissions and: 'cd /boot/grub' 'md5sum stage2' (my result: 66797a774c25457f3b5e7c7f0920db9f stage2) 'md5sum /usr/lib/grub/stage2' (my result: 66797a774c25457f3b5e7c7f0920db9f /usr/lib/grub/stage2) If they *don't* match, you can always try the bug OP's workaround (Copying the last stage2 to /boot/grub worked around the problem.) First, rename /boot/grub/stage2: 'mv stage2 stage2-broken' Then copy /usr/lib/grub/stage2 into /boot/grub: 'cp /usr/lib/grub/stage2 stage2' Note: the md5sum, mv and cp commands, above, presume that your present working directory remains /boot/grub/ Worth a shot, don't you think? Good luck regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
I recently installed SuSE 10.2 on a couple of machines using SATA drives and they each seem to be exhibiting a similar problem. They won't boot unless I choose Boot installed system from the CD. I did a check, and right from the get-go the two copies of Stage2 are not the same. MD5 comes up with a different hash for each, though I was under the impression that they were supposed to be the same. GRUB definitely loads, but just stops cold after the Stage 1.5. On the machine that also has Windows, the WinXP install comes up just fine. But Linux is dead. While this has probably been discussed before, there seem to be a number of GRUB-related posts and I can't tell if any of them pertain to me or not. Any help is appreciated. We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
If I try to boot Linux from the hard disk, it will flash Grub loading stage 1.5... and then the screen goes black and it just sits there. What I meant by the two copies of stage2 was that fresh from an install, I ran the command: md5sum /boot/grub/stage2 /usr/lib/grub/stage2 and it came back with two different hashes. I didn't think that was supposed to be the case. If I select Windows from the GRUB menu, XP comes up just fine. Linux, however, just sits. It seems to be something similar to this: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223773 But I don't know if it is exactly or not... My menu.lst looks like this (for this email, I am not including all the YAST-inserted comments): default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd0,5)/boot/message title openSUSE 10.2 root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-34-default root=/dev/sda title Windows rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader (hd0,0)+1 title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.2 -- My device.map is fairly simple: (hd0,0)/dev/sda -- My grub.conf says: setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,5) quit -- Again, any help is appreciated. --- Joe Morris (NTM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Dick wrote: I recently installed SuSE 10.2 on a couple of machines using SATA drives and they each seem to be exhibiting a similar problem. Which are??? They won't boot unless I choose Boot installed system from the CD. So you are booting from the cd/dvd? Are you booting from the mbr of your HDs? Is your BIOS pointing to the HD to boot from? I did a check, and right from the get-go the two copies of Stage2 are not the same. MD5 comes up with a different hash for each, though I was under the impression that they were supposed to be the same. I believe they are specific for the system so that would be normal unless these are exactly the same hardware, etc., in both. GRUB definitely loads, but just stops cold after the Stage 1.5. AFTER? stage 1.5 is the stage it loads to read the file system to read the rest of its info. This means it has to looking in the right place. On the machine that also has Windows, the WinXP install comes up just fine. But Linux is dead. This makes no sense to me. Does it start from grub? If so, this has to be after stage 2. Then the problem has to be in either your menu.lst or possibly your device.map. We would need more specific info to troubleshoot your problem, hopefully info that is not conflicting with itself. ;-) -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
--- Christopher Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My menu.lst looks like this (for this email, I am not including all the YAST-inserted comments): default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd0,5)/boot/message title openSUSE 10.2 root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-34-default root=/dev/sda Your problem is here. this dhould read; root=/dev/sda6 and should have some other parameters like; vga=0x317 selinux=0 resume=/dev/hda2 splash=verbose showopts My device.map is fairly simple: (hd0,0)/dev/sda This is also wrong: Should read (hd0) /dev/sda -- My grub.conf says: setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,5) quit This is correct. Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GRUB issues at stage 1.5
Christopher Dick wrote: If I try to boot Linux from the hard disk, it will flash Grub loading stage 1.5... and then the screen goes black and it just sits there. First, your top posting has made this email much harder than necessary to answer. It would be much better to answer after a question or comment. So are you here saying you are sitting at the menu and choosing Linux? IIANM, to get that far stage 1.5 has already run. What I meant by the two copies of stage2 was that fresh from an install, I ran the command: md5sum /boot/grub/stage2 /usr/lib/grub/stage2 and it came back with two different hashes. I didn't think that was supposed to be the case. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ md5sum /boot/grub/stage2 /usr/lib/grub/stage2 a53797beaba24cacef672beaad3fea09 /boot/grub/stage2 45438c473a200c0c1dba5d799cbd8186 /usr/lib/grub/stage2 Shows my output, and I am booting with no problems. If I select Windows from the GRUB menu, XP comes up just fine. Linux, however, just sits. So you do make it to a menu? This is what I meant in the first response. Either our vocab is different, or when you say you try to boot linux, you mean from the menu entry. But it flashes booting stage 1.5 BEFORE it gets to the menu. It could not load a menu without 1.5, which allows grub to read the file system it gets the menu from. It seems to be something similar to this: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223773 But I don't know if it is exactly or not... St least you did look. My menu.lst looks like this (for this email, I am not including all the YAST-inserted comments): default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd0,5)/boot/message This is where it gets the graphical screen. If you have that screen with your menu, it is able to read your boot file system, which IIANM means stage 1.5 has run. title openSUSE 10.2 root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-34-default root=/dev/sda Assuming you did copy this somewhat closely, this is very wrong. First, is your root file system on sda6? Do you have your boot directory as a subdirectory of your root (/) partition? Assuming the above, your root line is correct, then you should have at least; kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 (and some options such as vga=0x31a resume=/dev/[your swap partition] splash=[verbose or silent] showopts (all in one line) initrd /boot/initrd (this would be the third indented line, and is mandatory but you list none) title Windows rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader (hd0,0)+1 this is ok title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.2 OK, no need to include it at all if you show no info. This one will not work for sure if that is all that is there. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
