Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 12:55 -0900, John Andersen wrote: > My KNetworkManager seems to find networks (especially un-secured ones) > in the neighborhood and connect to these at random each time I power up. > > Is there a way to get it to stay home, and always connect to my router (which > does use security) in preference to what ever it finds? Well, it's just tramping because it was you taught him to do so. Why? Because you at least once tried to connect to one of your neighbors' networks. If such a connection attempt was successful the network is now respected as a trusted network it should try to connect to. At least if it is around. More information: http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager Now, to solve your issue simply use the context menu, choose "Options -> Show Networks" and delete the corresponding network from the list. > And whats up with that Signal Strength output when you hover over the > icon in the tray? What scale is that based on, and why isn't the > signal to noise ratio printed. It tends to always just say 100. 100 What? It should read x% . Please file a bug for that on http://bugzilla.novell.com. Thanks, Timo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 19:05 -0900, John Andersen wrote: > On Saturday 24 February 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: > > I had the same issue for a year or so until I activated KWallet. I let > > KNetwork manager have access to KWallet and it now correctly connects to my > > WPA secured network rather than my neighbors' unsecured networks. > > Mine has access to the wallet too. > > (That is another issue that gripes me. Why should I have to > run a passwordless wallet in order to allow boot time > connection to wireless, and thereby putting all my personal > settings and passwords at risk? > > Why does knetworkmanager need to store wireless keys > in a wallet? How secret do these things have to be? > Why can't it store it in regular file with restrictive > permissions? > > But I digress. > Merely having the keys in the wallet does not seem sufficient > to cause it to prefer the wet/wpa connections to the un-secured > neighbors wifi. > On this topic. It seems that KNetworkManager adopted the "NO config options for idiot users" approach of its Gnome ancestor. I need buttons to press and checkboxes to check dammit. Things I need to set myself: 1. Where to keep passwords 2. Edit config settings of wireless networks 3. Edit priority list of networks 4. Make dialup status indicator work and more... Today is the day I fire-up bugzilla. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
Am Sonntag, 25. Februar 2007 05:05 schrieb John Andersen: > On Saturday 24 February 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: > > I had the same issue for a year or so until I activated KWallet. I let > > KNetwork manager have access to KWallet and it now correctly connects to > > my WPA secured network rather than my neighbors' unsecured networks. > > Mine has access to the wallet too. > > (That is another issue that gripes me. Why should I have to > run a passwordless wallet in order to allow boot time > connection to wireless, and thereby putting all my personal > settings and passwords at risk? You can configure a system wide wifi connection using yast. NetworkManager will activate it on boot. > Why does knetworkmanager need to store wireless keys > in a wallet? How secret do these things have to be? > Why can't it store it in regular file with restrictive > permissions? Good point, I thougth about letting the user choose if he wants to store the keys unencrypted (e.g. in the knm config file or in a seperate passwordless wallet) a while ago too. Perhaps we get that into the next major release. > > But I digress. > Merely having the keys in the wallet does not seem sufficient > to cause it to prefer the wet/wpa connections to the un-secured > neighbors wifi. Open the "show networks..." dialog and delete your neighbors networks. Only your's should stay. Helmut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
On Saturday 24 February 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: > I had the same issue for a year or so until I activated KWallet. I let > KNetwork manager have access to KWallet and it now correctly connects to my > WPA secured network rather than my neighbors' unsecured networks. Mine has access to the wallet too. (That is another issue that gripes me. Why should I have to run a passwordless wallet in order to allow boot time connection to wireless, and thereby putting all my personal settings and passwords at risk? Why does knetworkmanager need to store wireless keys in a wallet? How secret do these things have to be? Why can't it store it in regular file with restrictive permissions? But I digress. Merely having the keys in the wallet does not seem sufficient to cause it to prefer the wet/wpa connections to the un-secured neighbors wifi. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Ponte schrieb: >> Is there a way to get it to stay home, and always connect to my router >> (which does use security) in preference to what ever it finds? [snip] > I had the same issue for a year or so until I activated KWallet. I let > KNetwork manager have access to KWallet and it now correctly connects to my > WPA secured network rather than my neighbors' unsecured networks. Right click on the tray icon > options > show networks Trusted/untrusted manages what networks should be connected to. thx Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF4OdYN8oPNJi4M6IRAhdbAJ0ZS9ks1Rp0mdtO8hJHZWUxMzWUzgCeJCho qoX9Gy2y9I69+potoM6SIGU= =kHIX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
On Saturday 24 February 2007 01:55:52 pm John Andersen wrote: > My KNetworkManager seems to find networks (especially un-secured ones) > in the neighborhood and connect to these at random each time I power up. > > Is there a way to get it to stay home, and always connect to my router > (which does use security) in preference to what ever it finds? > > And whats up with that Signal Strength output when you hover over the > icon in the tray? What scale is that based on, and why isn't the > signal to noise ratio printed. It tends to always just say 100. 100 What? Well, I'm not sure how you'd use wireless without knetwork manager, like Mathias said, but... I had the same issue for a year or so until I activated KWallet. I let KNetwork manager have access to KWallet and it now correctly connects to my WPA secured network rather than my neighbors' unsecured networks. Let me know if you have any issues. -- kai Free Compean and Ramos http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/46 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
Mathias Homann wrote: > Am Samstag, 24. Februar 2007 schrieb John Andersen: > >> My KNetworkManager seems to find networks (especially un-secured >> ones) in the neighborhood and connect to these at random each time >> I power up. >> >> Is there a way to get it to stay home, and always connect to my >> router (which does use security) in preference to what ever it >> finds? >> > > yes, simple enough: don't use knetworkmanager. > > if you actually need it when you're not at home, use scpm to build > different profiles, one with a fixed wlan setup for home, and one > with knetworkmanager for wherever else. > > I thought Knetworkmanager couldn't be used with profiles. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
Am Samstag, 24. Februar 2007 schrieb John Andersen: > My KNetworkManager seems to find networks (especially un-secured > ones) in the neighborhood and connect to these at random each time > I power up. > > Is there a way to get it to stay home, and always connect to my > router (which does use security) in preference to what ever it > finds? yes, simple enough: don't use knetworkmanager. if you actually need it when you're not at home, use scpm to build different profiles, one with a fixed wlan setup for home, and one with knetworkmanager for wherever else. bye, MH -- gpg key fingerprint: 5F64 4C92 9B77 DE37 D184 C5F9 B013 44E7 27BD 763C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] KNetworkManager: Such a tramp!
My KNetworkManager seems to find networks (especially un-secured ones) in the neighborhood and connect to these at random each time I power up. Is there a way to get it to stay home, and always connect to my router (which does use security) in preference to what ever it finds? And whats up with that Signal Strength output when you hover over the icon in the tray? What scale is that based on, and why isn't the signal to noise ratio printed. It tends to always just say 100. 100 What? -- _ John Andersen pgpw8XOqDfvwG.pgp Description: PGP signature
