Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates for new kernels

2007-12-31 Thread Thomas Hertweck

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 I read a lot about kernel updates in this list, but I still have the
 following (understanding?) problem:
 
 When I install a new kernel from on of the repositories
 
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/Vanilla/openSUSE_10.3/
 or
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/i586/
 
 I get the most current Version of the kernel. When I now want to stick
 to a specific version, lets say 2.6.23 or 2.6.24 (when finished), where
 will I get the security updates for the version? The repositories will
 change to the newer branch again, won't they?

Why do you want to upgrade to such a kernel? Is there a specific reason
for it? You shouldn't play with those kernels unless you know exactly
what you are doing or those new kernels support later hardware that
isn't supported by the box kernel.

Stick with the box kernel, and you will get all necessary updates.

The repositories mentioned above (and most other kernel repositories)
contain snapshots of kernels as RPMs. There's no archive for those
kernel RPMs and there are no updates. Those kernels aren't officially
supported.

 Also, where do I get the 2.6.23 build now, when there are already the
 2.6.24-rc builds in the repositories?

You don't get them anymore. The repositories contain snapshots only.

If you want to compile your own kernel, you don't have to create a
kernel RPM package. There's no real advantage in doing so. However, be
warned: when you compile your own kernel, then it's up to you to install
the latest patches/bugfixes/updates to keep your system secure.

Th.
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[opensuse] Kernel updates for new kernels

2007-12-30 Thread olit
Hello!

I read a lot about kernel updates in this list, but I still have the
following (understanding?) problem:

When I install a new kernel from on of the repositories

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/Vanilla/openSUSE_10.3/
or
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/i586/

I get the most current Version of the kernel. When I now want to stick
to a specific version, lets say 2.6.23 or 2.6.24 (when finished), where
will I get the security updates for the version? The repositories will
change to the newer branch again, won't they?

Also, where do I get the 2.6.23 build now, when there are already the
2.6.24-rc builds in the repositories?

Thanks,

Oliver.


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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates for new kernels

2007-12-30 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 30 December 2007 01:11:37 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!

 I read a lot about kernel updates in this list, but I still have the
 following (understanding?) problem:

 When I install a new kernel from on of the repositories

 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/Vanilla/openSUSE_10.3/
 or
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/i58
6/

 I get the most current Version of the kernel. When I now want to stick
 to a specific version, lets say 2.6.23 or 2.6.24 (when finished), where
 will I get the security updates for the version? The repositories will
 change to the newer branch again, won't they?

 Also, where do I get the 2.6.23 build now, when there are already the
 2.6.24-rc builds in the repositories?

 Thanks,

 Oliver.

You don't get security updates with those repositories, but whole new kernel 
which in case of Factory can be broken. Factory has very limited testing 
before it appear for download. It is good idea to have spare system installed 
to boot from if test installation is not bootable. 

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates for new kernels

2007-12-30 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 08:11:37PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I read a lot about kernel updates in this list, but I still have the
 following (understanding?) problem:
 
 When I install a new kernel from on of the repositories
 
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/Vanilla/openSUSE_10.3/
 or
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/i586/
 
 I get the most current Version of the kernel. When I now want to stick
 to a specific version, lets say 2.6.23 or 2.6.24 (when finished), where
 will I get the security updates for the version? The repositories will
 change to the newer branch again, won't they?
 
 Also, where do I get the 2.6.23 build now, when there are already the
 2.6.24-rc builds in the repositories?

You get the security updates for the kernels of released products, not
for every 2.6.xx branch. (Of course someone could create subpackages
for every 2.6.xx kernel.)

Ciao, Marcus
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Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates for new kernels

2007-12-30 Thread olit
Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 08:11:37PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!

 I read a lot about kernel updates in this list, but I still have the
 following (understanding?) problem:

 When I install a new kernel from on of the repositories

 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/Vanilla/openSUSE_10.3/
 or
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/i586/

 I get the most current Version of the kernel. When I now want to stick
 to a specific version, lets say 2.6.23 or 2.6.24 (when finished), where
 will I get the security updates for the version? The repositories will
 change to the newer branch again, won't they?

 Also, where do I get the 2.6.23 build now, when there are already the
 2.6.24-rc builds in the repositories?
 
 You get the security updates for the kernels of released products, not
 for every 2.6.xx branch. (Of course someone could create subpackages
 for every 2.6.xx kernel.)
 
 Ciao, Marcus

So there is NO (update-)repository that allows me to use 2.6.23? OK.
This brings me to another question on compiling the kernel myself:

Some people talk about the SUSE-common method of installing a
self-compiled kernel by first creating an RPM. Are there any howtos
describing this method for OpenSUSE 10.3? I found a lot on
self-compiling, but nothing on this first-make-a-RPM method.

Another point: I just found this ccj_kernel from engelh. Doesn't he
provide a repository with newer kernels for OpenSUSE versions? Are there
any opinions about this branch?

Thanks,

Oliver.

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