[opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-07-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,

which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2? I know DELL has some
it even delivers without OS (eg. Latitude D830 at the same price with or
without OS), but they are of the upper price range. I need a notebook
below 1000$ (about 750 Euro) that can be used for everything, but no
need for demanding software like games that use extensive graphics. 

Anyone who uses DELL notebooks with OpenSUSE 10.2 successfully?

:-)
Al

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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-01 Thread Rainer Klier

Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 08:53 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> Anyone who uses DELL notebooks with OpenSUSE 10.2 successfully?

me.
i am using a dell precision m90 notebook.
but this is a pretty big and expensive machine.
but everything works out of the box.

but i think the precision m65 should also work.
best chances are if you choose a notebook with "centrino duo" chipset
and nvidia gfx-card.
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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-01 Thread Matthew Stringer

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Hi all,

which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2? I know DELL has some
it even delivers without OS (eg. Latitude D830 at the same price with or
without OS), but they are of the upper price range. I need a notebook
below 1000$ (about 750 Euro) that can be used for everything, but no
need for demanding software like games that use extensive graphics. 


Anyone who uses DELL notebooks with OpenSUSE 10.2 successfully?

:-)
Al



At work we use Dell, never had a problem with them regardless of OS, 
OpenSUSE works 100%.



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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-01 Thread Matthias Titeux
Le Mercredi 1 Août 2007 08:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2? I know DELL has some
> it even delivers without OS (eg. Latitude D830 at the same price with or
> without OS), but they are of the upper price range. I need a notebook
> below 1000$ (about 750 Euro) that can be used for everything, but no
> need for demanding software like games that use extensive graphics.
>
> Anyone who uses DELL notebooks with OpenSUSE 10.2 successfully?
>
> :-)
>
> Al

Hi,

I use without any trouble a Dell Latitude D810 (pentium M, ATI gfx card) and a 
Dell inspiron 6400 (core 2 duo, Nvidia Geforce 7300 Go)  with opensuse 10.2.
The above hardware with the intel GMA gfx card should work with no problem and 
will be cheaper (possibly around 750 euros).

cheers

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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 14:43 +0200, Matthias Titeux wrote:
> Dell inspiron 6400 (core 2 duo, Nvidia Geforce 7300 Go)  with opensuse
> 10.2. 


On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:34 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:
> best chances are if you choose a notebook with "centrino duo" chipset
> and nvidia gfx-card. 
> 

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 08:30 +0100, Matthew Stringer wrote:
> 
> At work we use Dell, never had a problem with them regardless of OS, 
> OpenSUSE works 100%. 

Hi Matthias, Rainer and Matthew!

The Inspiron 6400 is exactly the one I am looking at. For my needs it
seems to have all I need.

What is great with these mailing lists, is that users can check with
others who's gone through the testing of the hardware for OpenSUSE;
saving many the risk of buying something that may not work ...

Thanx all ... I must now just convince my financial manager to buy it.

:-)
Al



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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-01 Thread Kai Ponte
On Tue, July 31, 2007 11:53 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

This is a *tough* question to answer simply because the notebook
landscape changes so drastically.

Three years ago, I bought a Dell 600m that worked mostly with SUSE 9.3
and 100% with SUSE 10.2. However, that notebook is completely
outdated.

I recently bought a HP notebook (nw9440) that also works 90% with SUSE
10.2. (The integrated SD/MMC/XM/XD card reader only seems to read the
SD card.)

I doubt you'll find a notebook that is 100% feature complete in Linux.
The reason simply being that the small OEM manufacturers of the
various components don't give a hoot about Linux or MacOS and only
write their drivers for Windows Vista or XP.

HOWEVER - you should be happy with pretty much any notebook you get.
I've loaded SUSE on half a dozen notebooks and been mostly satisfied.

HTH!!

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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-01 Thread Rainer Klier

Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 16:30 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 14:43 +0200, Matthias Titeux wrote:

> Hi Matthias, Rainer and Matthew!
> 
> The Inspiron 6400 is exactly the one I am looking at. For my needs it
> seems to have all I need.

be carefull!
i checked the (austrian) dell website a few minutes ago, and there is no
inspiron 6400 with core 2 duo and Nvidia Geforce 7300 Go any more!
maybe you can find it on ebay.
but not as new computer any more.
current inspiron 6400s have a pentium processor, NOT a core duo!

but maybe you are lucky and dell is still selling the 6400s with core 2
duo and Nvidia Geforce 7300 Go in your country.

or maybe the new Vostro 1400 or 1500 are what you are looking for.

> Thanx all ... I must now just convince my financial manager to buy it.

and before, check if the "good" 6400s are still sold by dell in your
country
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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 17:38 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: 
> but not as new computer any more.
> current inspiron 6400s have a pentium processor, NOT a core duo!
> 
> but maybe you are lucky and dell is still selling the 6400s with core 2
> duo and Nvidia Geforce 7300 Go in your country.
> 
> or maybe the new Vostro 1400 or 1500 are what you are looking for.
> 

> and before, check if the "good" 6400s are still sold by dell in your
> country

I still can buy it in Germany.
Look at this: (German I am afraid, but you can make out what it all is):

http://configure2.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=de&cs=debsdt1&kc=NRS64002&l=de&oc=N07642XP&rbc=N07642XP&s=bsd

Anyone got experience with the Vostro's? 

:-)
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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-01 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/8/1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi all,
>
> which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2? I know DELL has some
> it even delivers without OS (eg. Latitude D830 at the same price with or
> without OS), but they are of the upper price range. I need a notebook
> below 1000$ (about 750 Euro) that can be used for everything, but no
> need for demanding software like games that use extensive graphics.
>
> Anyone who uses DELL notebooks with OpenSUSE 10.2 successfully?
>
> :-)
> Al
>

Hi, I'm running Opensuse 10.2 on a Dell Inspiron 6400, just some notes:

- Intel 945GM Graphic Card: Works fine, but couldn't make the S-Video
output work.
- Ricoh Memory Card reader: It's detected but didn't use it yet.
- Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG: Works  out of the box
-- At the office works flawlessly with WPA with high and light load (D-Link AP)
-- At home I have many troubles with a Linksys WRT54GX4 AP and WPA, it
drops the connection when there's high load (many "TKIP: ICV error
detected" messages with light load too). A windows laptop with the
same card works fine only after updating to the last driver, maybe
with the latest module for linux it works better.
- Modem (don't know the make/model): Works with linuxant (comercial driver)
- Firewire: Didn't try it yet

Ciro
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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-02 Thread Rainer Klier

Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 18:33 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 17:38 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: 

> > and before, check if the "good" 6400s are still sold by dell in your
> > country
> 
> I still can buy it in Germany.
> Look at this: (German I am afraid, but you can make out what it all is):
> 
> http://configure2.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=de&cs=debsdt1&kc=NRS64002&l=de&oc=N07642XP&rbc=N07642XP&s=bsd

no problem, since i am from austria i am able to understand german ;-)

but the link you gave brought me to the same configurator like the
austrian-dell-page.
and you can see at the top, that the cpu you can select is only a
Pentium® Dual-Core T2080 or a T2130.
both are NO core 2 duo.
i would not recommend to buy such a Pentium® Dual-Core.
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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-02 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/8/1, Ciro Iriarte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi, I'm running Opensuse 10.2 on a Dell Inspiron 6400, just some notes:
>
> - Intel 945GM Graphic Card: Works fine, but couldn't make the S-Video
> output work.
> - Ricoh Memory Card reader: It's detected but didn't use it yet.
> - Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG: Works  out of the box
> -- At the office works flawlessly with WPA with high and light load (D-Link 
> AP)
> -- At home I have many troubles with a Linksys WRT54GX4 AP and WPA, it
> drops the connection when there's high load (many "TKIP: ICV error
> detected" messages with light load too). A windows laptop with the
> same card works fine only after updating to the last driver, maybe
> with the latest module for linux it works better.
> - Modem (don't know the make/model): Works with linuxant (comercial driver)
> - Firewire: Didn't try it yet
>
> Ciro
>
One more note, i can suspend it, but it just resumes when it wants to,
sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't

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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-02 Thread Michel Salim
On 02/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 17:38 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:
> > but not as new computer any more.
> > current inspiron 6400s have a pentium processor, NOT a core duo!
> >
> > but maybe you are lucky and dell is still selling the 6400s with core 2
> > duo and Nvidia Geforce 7300 Go in your country.
> >
> > or maybe the new Vostro 1400 or 1500 are what you are looking for.
> >
>
> > and before, check if the "good" 6400s are still sold by dell in your
> > country
>
> I still can buy it in Germany.
> Look at this: (German I am afraid, but you can make out what it all is):
>
One alternative would be to look at http://linux.dell.com/ and make
sure that whatever you order is similar in configuration to the
computers that Dell ships with Ubuntu.

I believe Dell has repositories with drivers, etc. for other Linux
distributions as well (probably for the modem, etc.).

The only major difference is that sometimes the Windows variant of a
model comes with an ATi video card, vs. nVidia for the Linux version.
Unless you need good 3D graphics, for business use I'd probably just
get the Intel GMA3100 anyway.

Is your budget pre- or post-VAT? The Latitude D630 starts at under
$900 in the USA market.

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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-02 Thread Registration Account
(BL) - Before Linux

Every one who has replied is quite correct in my
experience in that the suggestions lead towards very
new components. The best thought I have read was to
think about purchasing a Dell unit that can be shipped
in a Linux Distro.

This has not always been the case and If you were
thinking about purchasing a desktop I would exercise
great caution.

2 years ago, in an effort to minimise costs, I ordered
4 New Desktops. 4 x Dimension 4700 which all ran
Windows XP SP2 without issue until 1 of the units
required a format and reinstall.

After loading XP, the network card driver was absent
and the video had issues maintaining a resolution
greater than 800x600 and I called Dell.

I was told to I would have to load various drivers from
the utils CD or get the drivers from the Internet.
Without the NIC being identified and if I had lost the
Utils CD I would have been stuffed If I was a home user
with only 1 PC.

>From the CD the following drivers needed to be loaded
in this order.

1 x Chipset driver
1 x Video driver
1 x Audio Driver
1 x NIC driver

Dell DO NOT publish their driver specific drivers to MS
   so there are never any drivers obtained from MS
online update unlike just about every other major brand.

The dell website is huge, carrying with it every driver
that is required and invariable they are NOT signed by MS.

You can see chat I mean by looking at
http://support.ap.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=au&l=en&s=gen&ServiceTag=&SystemID=DIM_P4_4700&os=WW1&osl=en&catid=&impid=

This is all done to cut costs.

I suppose the most important issue I have gained when
any other business asks my opinion is to check the dell
website for the driver support  which may either
delight you or put you off.

Scott

Ciro Iriarte wrote:
> 2007/8/1, Ciro Iriarte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi, I'm running Opensuse 10.2 on a Dell Inspiron 6400, just some notes:
>>
>> - Intel 945GM Graphic Card: Works fine, but couldn't make the S-Video
>> output work.
>> - Ricoh Memory Card reader: It's detected but didn't use it yet.
>> - Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG: Works  out of the box
>> -- At the office works flawlessly with WPA with high and light load (D-Link 
>> AP)
>> -- At home I have many troubles with a Linksys WRT54GX4 AP and WPA, it
>> drops the connection when there's high load (many "TKIP: ICV error
>> detected" messages with light load too). A windows laptop with the
>> same card works fine only after updating to the last driver, maybe
>> with the latest module for linux it works better.
>> - Modem (don't know the make/model): Works with linuxant (comercial driver)
>> - Firewire: Didn't try it yet
>>
>> Ciro
>>
> One more note, i can suspend it, but it just resumes when it wants to,
> sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't
> 
> Ciro


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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-03 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 05:37 -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
> > 2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel
> > > versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the
> > > WikiPedia, that only the "Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the
> > > 64-bit Core microarchitecture". All else is 32 Bit.
> > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah).
> > >
> > > "Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah",
> > > (and all else before?).
> > >
> > > So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64
> > > should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?
> > >
> > > Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system
> > > like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?
> > >
> > > :-)
> > > Al
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > My Inspiron 6400 is running Opensuse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Ciro
>
> Now I am flabbergasted! On which CPU's does OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 then
> run? On my normal X86_64 Athlon PC, OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 runs, but on a
> x86 it won't/can't install (understandably). Does it mean that if
> OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 installs that the x86-64 implementation works on
> the Inspiron 6400's Yonah?
>
> :-)
> Al
>
My 6400 has a Core 2 Duo cpu My Athlon64 runs fine also with Suse
10.1 (although my nforce5 based M2N32-SLI mobo was too new at that
time to be 100% supported)

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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 11:55 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:
> intel-based notebooks with the "centrino duo" logo are supported MUCH
> BETTER by opensuse10.2.
> with these machines nearly EVERY hardware on it (bluetooth, wlan,
> sd-card) will work out-off-the-box.
> and today core 2 duos are much faster than Turion 64 X2.
> both can run opensuse10.2 64bit.
> both cost about the same.
> but core 2 duos are faster, and centrino notebooks work better. 

This is good info. It answers my comment to Ciro.

Back to configuring a core 2 duo with the Dell on-line store! Ordering
by phone saves a little cash as well.

:-)
Al

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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-03 Thread Kevin Papineau

I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 which was running SuSE 9.2 Professional and was 
upgraded to openSuSE 10.2 recently.  I've not had any issues with anything.
WHat is more odd, is that Windows XP which originally shipped with the laptop 
would not recognize the video card when reinstalled, and so the laptop was 
shifted to Linux, which suits me just fine.

Kevin

On Friday 03 August 2007 05:37, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
> 2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel
> > versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the
> > WikiPedia, that only the "Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the
> > 64-bit Core microarchitecture". All else is 32 Bit.
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah).
> >
> > "Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah",
> > (and all else before?).
> >
> > So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64
> > should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?
> >
> > Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system
> > like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Al
>
> My Inspiron 6400 is running Opensuse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Ciro
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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-03 Thread Rainer Klier

Am Freitag, den 03.08.2007, 11:35 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 09:53 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: 
> > Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 18:33 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 17:38 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: 
> > 
> > and you can see at the top, that the cpu you can select is only a
> > Pentium® Dual-Core T2080 or a T2130.
> > both are NO core 2 duo.
> > i would not recommend to buy such a Pentium® Dual-Core.
> > -- 
> 
> You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel
> versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the
> WikiPedia, that only the "Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the
> 64-bit Core microarchitecture". All else is 32 Bit.

no, there are also some pentiums with 64bit.

> "Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah",

that is correct.

> (and all else before?). 

as i said.
there are some pentium models that also support 64bit.

BUT!
pentiums can't be compared to core 2 duos.
core 2 duos are MUCH better/faster/energy-saving

today, NEVER EVER buy a pentium or celeron.
i would say, that today you also should not buy a core duo.
core duos came months before core 2 duo, and also are not 64bit capable.

core 2 duo is the best choice you have today.

> So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64
> should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?

it is very simple:
a notebook with a 32bit cpu (regardless if pentium, celeron or core duo)
will run opensuse10.2 32bit.
a notebook with a 64bit cpu (regardless if 64bit-pentium or core 2 duo)
will run opensuse10.2 64bit.


> Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system
> like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? 

i whould not recommend that.
intel-based notebooks with the "centrino duo" logo are supported MUCH
BETTER by opensuse10.2.
with these machines nearly EVERY hardware on it (bluetooth, wlan,
sd-card) will work out-off-the-box.
and today core 2 duos are much faster than Turion 64 X2.
both can run opensuse10.2 64bit.
both cost about the same.
but core 2 duos are faster, and centrino notebooks work better.
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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 05:37 -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
> 2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel
> > versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the
> > WikiPedia, that only the "Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the
> > 64-bit Core microarchitecture". All else is 32 Bit.
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah).
> >
> > "Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah",
> > (and all else before?).
> >
> > So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64
> > should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?
> >
> > Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system
> > like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?
> >
> > :-)
> > Al
> >
> >
> >
> My Inspiron 6400 is running Opensuse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Ciro

Now I am flabbergasted! On which CPU's does OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 then
run? On my normal X86_64 Athlon PC, OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 runs, but on a
x86 it won't/can't install (understandably). Does it mean that if
OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 installs that the x86-64 implementation works on
the Inspiron 6400's Yonah?

:-)
Al

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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 09:53 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: 
> Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 18:33 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 17:38 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: 
> 
> > > and before, check if the "good" 6400s are still sold by dell in your
> > > country
> > 
> > I still can buy it in Germany.
> > Look at this: (German I am afraid, but you can make out what it all is):
> > 
> > http://configure2.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=de&cs=debsdt1&kc=NRS64002&l=de&oc=N07642XP&rbc=N07642XP&s=bsd
> 
> no problem, since i am from austria i am able to understand german ;-)
> 
> but the link you gave brought me to the same configurator like the
> austrian-dell-page.
> and you can see at the top, that the cpu you can select is only a
> Pentium® Dual-Core T2080 or a T2130.
> both are NO core 2 duo.
> i would not recommend to buy such a Pentium® Dual-Core.
> -- 

You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel
versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the
WikiPedia, that only the "Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the
64-bit Core microarchitecture". All else is 32 Bit.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah). 

"Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah",
(and all else before?). 

So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64
should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?

Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system
like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? 

:-)
Al





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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-03 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel
> versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the
> WikiPedia, that only the "Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the
> 64-bit Core microarchitecture". All else is 32 Bit.
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah).
>
> "Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah",
> (and all else before?).
>
> So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64
> should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?
>
> Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system
> like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?
>
> :-)
> Al
>
>
>
My Inspiron 6400 is running Opensuse [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-05 Thread Carlos Lorenzo Matés
Hi.


El Viernes, 3 de Agosto de 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
>
> Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system
> like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?


Yes, i have 2 running.

I have to use ndiswrapper to get the wireless working, and for the rest it 
runs fine.




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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:34 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 08:53 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> > Anyone who uses DELL notebooks with OpenSUSE 10.2 successfully?
> 
> me.
> i am using a dell precision m90 notebook.
> but this is a pretty big and expensive machine.
> but everything works out of the box.
> 
> but i think the precision m65 should also work.
> best chances are if you choose a notebook with "centrino duo" chipset
> and nvidia gfx-card.
> -- 


Thanx all who responded so far.

I have come to the conclusion, based on all the comments you all gave,
that the Inspiron 1720 Gold (N0817206B) will be a good system.

I still have doubts about the "Intel Next-gen Wireless-n 802.11a/b/g/n
Mini Card" in this system. Anyone got one working with OpenSUSE 10.2?

Here is the Config: 

Components

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7100 Processor (1,8 GHz, 800 MHz, 2 MB L2-Cache)

Original Windows Vista™ Home Premium (32 Bit) (will be OpenSuse 10.2
x86_64) 
17,0" UltraSharp™ Widescreen WUXGA (1920 x 1200) Display with TrueLife™

2048 MB 667 MHz Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2 x 1024]

Two SATA-HD (5.400 RPM.) with 240 GB (2 x 120 GB)

nVidia® GeForce™ Go 8600M GT with 256 MB dedicated DDR2-Graphic-memory

Internal 8x DVD+/-RWwith Software

Lithium-Ion-Cells with 9 cells at 85 Watt-hour 

Accessories 
Intel® Wireless-N-Mini-card new Generation - Europa Does it work with
OpenSUSE 10.2?

Microsoft® Works 8.5 (ha-ha, OOo 2.2) 
Services und Software 3 Year Hardware-Support 

Type: 1720 Gold N0817206B Inspiron

It costs about 1700 Euro in Germany when ordered online. 
I always get a telephonic quote, which is mostly a little cheaper.

:-)
Al




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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-22 Thread Michel Salim
On 14/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Components
>
> Intel(r) Core™ 2 Duo T7100 Processor (1,8 GHz, 800 MHz, 2 MB L2-Cache)
>
> Original Windows Vista™ Home Premium (32 Bit) (will be OpenSuse 10.2
> x86_64)
> 17,0" UltraSharp™ Widescreen WUXGA (1920 x 1200) Display with TrueLife™
>
> 2048 MB 667 MHz Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2 x 1024]
>
> Two SATA-HD (5.400 RPM.) with 240 GB (2 x 120 GB)
>
*TWO* hard drives! Whoa.

> nVidia(r) GeForce™ Go 8600M GT with 256 MB dedicated DDR2-Graphic-memory
>
> Internal 8x DVD+/-RWwith Software
>
> Lithium-Ion-Cells with 9 cells at 85 Watt-hour
>
> Accessories
> Intel(r) Wireless-N-Mini-card new Generation - Europa Does it work with
> OpenSUSE 10.2?
Mm. That might require you installing a new kernel, since (AFAIK) the
Intel drivers target the new wireless infrastructure that is only
present in 2.6.22 and up. I might be mistaken about the exact kernel
revision.

I have a similarly-configured laptop on order, so I'll be able to
offer more specific advice later on. The most painless solution would
seem to be installing a kernel (and the iwl4965 driver, if it's a
separate RPM) from 10.3beta1.

Regards,

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Re: [opensuse] Which DELL Notebooks work 100% with OpenSUSE 10.2?

2007-08-22 Thread Michel Salim
On 22/08/07, Michel Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 14/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Components
> >
> > Intel(r) Core™ 2 Duo T7100 Processor (1,8 GHz, 800 MHz, 2 MB L2-Cache)
> >
> > Original Windows Vista™ Home Premium (32 Bit) (will be OpenSuse 10.2
> > x86_64)
> > 17,0" UltraSharp™ Widescreen WUXGA (1920 x 1200) Display with TrueLife™
> >
> > 2048 MB 667 MHz Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2 x 1024]
> >
> > Two SATA-HD (5.400 RPM.) with 240 GB (2 x 120 GB)
> >
> *TWO* hard drives! Whoa.
>
> > nVidia(r) GeForce™ Go 8600M GT with 256 MB dedicated DDR2-Graphic-memory
> >
> > Internal 8x DVD+/-RWwith Software
> >
> > Lithium-Ion-Cells with 9 cells at 85 Watt-hour
> >
> > Accessories
> > Intel(r) Wireless-N-Mini-card new Generation - Europa Does it work with
> > OpenSUSE 10.2?
> Mm. That might require you installing a new kernel, since (AFAIK) the
> Intel drivers target the new wireless infrastructure that is only
> present in 2.6.22 and up. I might be mistaken about the exact kernel
> revision.

Correction: works fine with 2.6.18 (which is in openSUSE 10.2) and up:
http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=howto-iwlwifi

(see the link to the HOWTO-mac80211 page)

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