Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-08 Thread Mauricio Teixeira (netmask)
Em Qui, 2006-12-07 às 18:29 -0500, steve reilly escreveu:

 your building it on 10.2 right?  let me know if you have source you need 
 tested!

The package is online. Please take a look at:

http://mteixeira.webset.net/blog/20061208/democracy-player-for-suse-101/

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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-08 Thread Pete Connolly
On Friday 08 December 2006 19:37, Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote:
 Em Qui, 2006-12-07 às 18:29 -0500, steve reilly escreveu:
  your building it on 10.2 right?  let me know if you have source you need
  tested!

 The package is online. Please take a look at:

 http://mteixeira.webset.net/blog/20061208/democracy-player-for-suse-101/

Hi Mauricio

Many thanks for this, I'm downloading as we I'm typing and will give you 
feedback tomorrow.

Best wishes

Cheers

Pete
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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-07 Thread Mauricio Teixeira (netmask)
Em Ter, 2006-12-05 às 07:16 -0500, steve reilly escreveu:

 same problems here, with the dependencies.  There was one other gentleman who 
 said he was going to try and work on it as well.  I tried loading his blog 

It was me...

Well, I managed to get the package done (all dependencies for *building*
were solved). Now I've found some other dependencies problem that only
shows up after the package is installed.

I'm still trying to figure out the rest, but I'm having some good
progress. ;)

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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-07 Thread steve reilly
On Thursday 07 December 2006 17:30, Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote:


 Well, I managed to get the package done (all dependencies for *building*
 were solved). Now I've found some other dependencies problem that only
 shows up after the package is installed.

 I'm still trying to figure out the rest, but I'm having some good
 progress. ;)

great!  

your building it on 10.2 right?  let me know if you have source you need 
tested!


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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-05 Thread Darren Davis
 On Sun, Dec 3, 2006 at  3:32 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], steve reilly
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 On Sunday 03 December 2006 17:14, Pete Connolly wrote:
 
 Hi Steve

 Strangely enough, I've been looking at this today after reading some very
 good write ups around the net.  It sems that Darren Davis is working on
 this on the build service
 (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse- buildservice/2006- 09/msg00188.html) but
 hasn't got there yet.  Maybe this is something we could help him with?  I'd
 be willing...

 Cheers

 Pete
 
 Hi,
 
 absolutely Im afraid I wouldnt be any help on the programming side, 
 (my limits are a bit of html,  and php)  but testing, and anything else Id 
 be 
 more than willing.  This is a great program!  Im having fun with it.
 
 Darren, are you listening?
 
 
 
 

Yep, here!

First my apologies for the fact that my mail client is going to break this 
thread, I am on the road and have no choice. :(

I ran into the dependency issues that Pascal outlines later in this thread.  I 
spent some time trying to chase them down, but gave up with the other affected 
packages.  I do have interest in help getting Democracy working.

Darren


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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-05 Thread steve reilly

 
  Darren, are you listening?

 Yep, here!

 First my apologies for the fact that my mail client is going to break this
 thread, I am on the road and have no choice. :(

 I ran into the dependency issues that Pascal outlines later in this thread.
  I spent some time trying to chase them down, but gave up with the other
 affected packages.  I do have interest in help getting Democracy working.

 Darren


Hi!,

same problems here, with the dependencies.  There was one other gentleman who 
said he was going to try and work on it as well.  I tried loading his blog 
last night, where he said he would post info, and I kept getting a timeout.  
either he has one heck of a slow server and is in the bush somewhere, I 
couldnt get it to load.  oh well, we shall see where t his leads.  Let us 
know anyone if you have luck or need some testing ok!,  thank you.


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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-04 Thread Pete Connolly
On Monday 04 December 2006 00:29, steve reilly wrote:
 On Sunday 03 December 2006 18:13, Pete Connolly wrote:
  OK then, I'll have a look at the source and see how far I get.  Judging
  by the article at
  http://nileshbansal.blogspot.com/2006/05/democracy-player-on-suse-100.htm
 l it might be a bit of a slog, but we'll see how far we can get.
 
  Packaging an RPM isn't something that I do too often, but as per usual
  I'll take it as a learning opportunity :)
 
  Cheers
 
  Pete

 When trying the rpm available from sourceforge, I was able to whittle down
 the dependencies to just python 2.4 it was calling for, and using 2.5 on
 10.2rc1. Would it matter the difference between the 2? they should be
 downward compatible correct?


Which RPM did you try?  The FC 6 rpm had a lot of dependency errors for 
libraries that were already installed, as does the FC 5 one.  After reading 
Pascal's email it seems that it might be an idea to raise an enhancement 
request in Bugzilla.

I'll get on that today.

Cheers

Pete
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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-04 Thread Mauricio Teixeira (netmask)
Em Dom, 2006-12-03 às 12:58 -0500, steve reilly escreveu:

 has anyone seen a suse rpm around for democracy player?  new version out, 

Yesterday I started packaging it on SUSE Build Service, but had some
time issues and never finished. I expect to have it working by tomorrow.

Check http://mteixeira.webset.net/blog

That's where I'll notify when finished.

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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-04 Thread Sunny

On 12/4/06, Saill White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Here's an awesome cross-platform player that's looking for a Suse maintainer:

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-suse.html

Saill



There are vlc rpms at packman:
http://packman.links2linux.org/package/vlc


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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-04 Thread Pete Connolly
On Monday 04 December 2006 11:30, Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote:
 Em Dom, 2006-12-03 às 12:58 -0500, steve reilly escreveu:
  has anyone seen a suse rpm around for democracy player?  new version out,

 Yesterday I started packaging it on SUSE Build Service, but had some
 time issues and never finished. I expect to have it working by tomorrow.

 Check http://mteixeira.webset.net/blog

 That's where I'll notify when finished.

Hi Maurico

Thanks for the update, I'll check the site and test when it becomes available.  
Marvellous work, I was starting to get a bit depressed about the amount of 
work involved :)

Cheers

Pete
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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-04 Thread steve reilly
On Monday 04 December 2006 04:08, Pete Connolly wrote:


 Which RPM did you try?  The FC 6 rpm had a lot of dependency errors for
 libraries that were already installed, as does the FC 5 one.  After reading
 Pascal's email it seems that it might be an idea to raise an enhancement
 request in Bugzilla.

 I'll get on that today.

 Cheers

 Pete

yes, thats the one I tried I found rpms for all the dependencies on 
rpmfind, except for the python 2.4 I think it was, they had it, but I can 
install it as 10.2 uses python 2.5.  But even if I was ABLE to install 
python, I expect other errors would have arose as pascal has suggested, 
(seamonkey, mozilla libraries, etc).



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[opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-03 Thread steve reilly
Hi all,

has anyone seen a suse rpm around for democracy player?  new version out, 
very, very  nice... tried it on another distro.  I tried the tarball, and 
am having dependency issues, looking for python 2.4, i have 2.5, why that 
would matter, I have no ideabut...  also found an rpm on freshmeat, but 
getting dependencies a mile long.  thanks!




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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-03 Thread Pete Connolly
On Sunday 03 December 2006 17:58, steve reilly wrote:
 Hi all,

 has anyone seen a suse rpm around for democracy player?  new version out,
 very, very  nice... tried it on another distro.  I tried the tarball,
 and am having dependency issues, looking for python 2.4, i have 2.5, why
 that would matter, I have no ideabut...  also found an rpm on
 freshmeat, but getting dependencies a mile long.  thanks!


Hi Steve

Strangely enough, I've been looking at this today after reading some very good 
write ups around the net.  It sems that Darren Davis is working on this on 
the build service 
(http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-buildservice/2006-09/msg00188.html) but 
hasn't got there yet.  Maybe this is something we could help him with?  I'd 
be willing...

Cheers

Pete
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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-03 Thread steve reilly
On Sunday 03 December 2006 17:14, Pete Connolly wrote:

 Hi Steve

 Strangely enough, I've been looking at this today after reading some very
 good write ups around the net.  It sems that Darren Davis is working on
 this on the build service
 (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-buildservice/2006-09/msg00188.html) but
 hasn't got there yet.  Maybe this is something we could help him with?  I'd
 be willing...

 Cheers

 Pete

Hi,

absolutely Im afraid I wouldnt be any help on the programming side, 
(my limits are a bit of html,  and php)  but testing, and anything else Id be 
more than willing.  This is a great program!  Im having fun with it.

Darren, are you listening?





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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-03 Thread steve reilly
On Sunday 03 December 2006 18:13, Pete Connolly wrote:


 OK then, I'll have a look at the source and see how far I get.  Judging by
 the article at
 http://nileshbansal.blogspot.com/2006/05/democracy-player-on-suse-100.html
 it might be a bit of a slog, but we'll see how far we can get.

 Packaging an RPM isn't something that I do too often, but as per usual I'll
 take it as a learning opportunity :)

 Cheers

 Pete

When trying the rpm available from sourceforge, I was able to whittle down the 
dependencies to just python 2.4 it was calling for, and using 2.5 on 10.2rc1.  
Would it matter the difference between the 2? they should be downward 
compatible correct?


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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-03 Thread Peter Van Lone

On 12/3/06, Pascal Bleser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The problem is that it requires Python bindings for XUL (gecko/mozilla)
and those are not included in the firefox/seamonkey/gecko builds on SUSE.

Note that SUSE isn't really to blame, those are deemed experimental at
best and not built by default with seamonkey/firefox.

This means that, first of all, we'd need the mozilla-xulrunner and/or
gecko-sdk SUSE packages to include the python bindings as well.

Who's in charge of those packages now that Wolfgang left SUSE ?
MozillaFirefox changelog: jhargadon



It would be so sweet if someone could figure this out. I would be more
than willing to be a test monkey, or anything else ... I simply know
nothing about trying to build rpm's or what not ...

Do we really care if we are using the Suse-supplied mozilla stuff?
What about creating an uber-package that would install the needed
configuration of mozilla components as well as the democracy player
stuff?

Wish I knew enough to be helpful ...

Peter
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Re: [opensuse] democracy player

2006-12-03 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Peter Van Lone wrote:
 On 12/3/06, Pascal Bleser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The problem is that it requires Python bindings for XUL (gecko/mozilla)
 and those are not included in the firefox/seamonkey/gecko builds on SUSE.

 Note that SUSE isn't really to blame, those are deemed experimental at
 best and not built by default with seamonkey/firefox.

 This means that, first of all, we'd need the mozilla-xulrunner and/or
 gecko-sdk SUSE packages to include the python bindings as well.

 Who's in charge of those packages now that Wolfgang left SUSE ?
 MozillaFirefox changelog: jhargadon
[...]
 Do we really care if we are using the Suse-supplied mozilla stuff?

Yes, definitely.

 What about creating an uber-package that would install the needed
 configuration of mozilla components as well as the democracy player
 stuff?

Building mozilla is one of the most painful processes one could think of
(ok, openoffice isn't bad either).

Building democracy player's own copy of the mozilla libs as part of the
democracy player package is a very bad idea.

I tried to rip out the parts needed for the python bindings and build
them against an installed mozilla-xulrunner/mozilla-xulrunner-devel but
it's just a huge pain in the ... because you have to patch and hack the
Makefiles, etc...

Too bad the democracy player developers chose to use such an
experimental UI toolkit that's not even built by default.

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