Re: No VGA Input (was: Re: [opensuse] WARNING! - Latest Update Kills Server)

2008-01-25 Thread Jonathan Wilson
On Friday 25 January 2008 10:44:07 D Henson wrote:
 I now get no display at all, not even the stuff you normally get when
 you boot the system. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't any PC
 monitor display that stuff, regardless of whether or not a driver is
 installed? All that I do get is No VGA Input and Monitor going to
 Sleep. This sounds like a hardware problem. I removed my existing card
 (GeForce 2) and installed a newer one (GeForce FX 5200). No display.
 Reinstalled the older card. Replaced VGA cable. No display. Removed
 power for 20 seconds  reconnected power. No display. Replaced monitor
 with known good monitor. No display. Now I'm really lost.

 Anybody have any suggestions on how to proceed?

 Don Henson

Do you have a CRT or an LCD laptop? Please check to make sure the monitor's 
settings haven't been corrupted. Just this week I had a friend call and say 
his big 24 LCD monitor wasn't working anymore - no lights, no display. After 
poking a lot of buttons I finally figured out that it had just lots it's 
mind - was listening to the wrong input, was set to partial resolution, a 
bunch of things. I assume a surge hit the monitor or something.

You are saying, I take it, that you do not see even the BIOS messages 
scrolling by when you first boot up. That makes me wonder if the BIOs is set 
to send it's output to something other than the AGP/PCIe port. 

Is there  a built-in VGA on the mainboard that you are not using? If so, plug 
your monitor into it and see if it's getting signal. If so you'll have to go 
into the BIOS and tell the BIOS to use the AGP/PCIe port (it will probably be 
an options called Init Display First

You might also need to clear your CMOS memory. How to do this depends on the 
specific computer. Its usually done by moving a jumper temporarily.

Is the computer turning on at all? Go you get power lights, do the fans start 
to turn when you turn the computer on?

If so and my pervious advice still doesn't work, you might try using a PCI 
video card too, at least temporarily.

JW


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No VGA Input (was: Re: [opensuse] WARNING! - Latest Update Kills Server)

2008-01-25 Thread D Henson
I apologize for not responding to some of you but the symptoms have 
changed. I'll get to that in a moment. First, I want to clear up some 
apparently mistaken assumptions about me and my system.


From some of the comments, it appears that many of you think I'm a 
professional system administrator with a 'significant' system. (I take 
this as a complement, by the way.) While I am an IT professional, I'm 
not a *professional* system administrator. The system I administrate is 
a small home network with a server/workstation (the one that's broke), a 
dual-boot workstation, and a Windows laptop. I guess you could say that 
I'm a part-time administrator. Now to the new symptoms.


I now get no display at all, not even the stuff you normally get when 
you boot the system. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't any PC 
monitor display that stuff, regardless of whether or not a driver is 
installed? All that I do get is No VGA Input and Monitor going to 
Sleep. This sounds like a hardware problem. I removed my existing card 
(GeForce 2) and installed a newer one (GeForce FX 5200). No display. 
Reinstalled the older card. Replaced VGA cable. No display. Removed 
power for 20 seconds  reconnected power. No display. Replaced monitor 
with known good monitor. No display. Now I'm really lost.


Anybody have any suggestions on how to proceed?

Don Henson

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Re: No VGA Input (was: Re: [opensuse] WARNING! - Latest Update Kills Server)

2008-01-25 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 25 January 2008 10:44:07 am D Henson wrote:
 I now get no display at all, not even the stuff you normally get when
 you boot the system. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't any PC
 monitor display that stuff, regardless of whether or not a driver is
 installed? All that I do get is No VGA Input and Monitor going to
 Sleep. This sounds like a hardware problem. I removed my existing card
 (GeForce 2) and installed a newer one (GeForce FX 5200). No display.
 Reinstalled the older card. Replaced VGA cable. No display. Removed
 power for 20 seconds  reconnected power. No display. Replaced monitor
 with known good monitor. No display. Now I'm really lost.

 Anybody have any suggestions on how to proceed?

It sounds like your problem has nothing to do with latest updates :-( 

Check is there any lights on computer, any noise.

If yes, than opening the box is next step. 

Reseat all components, RAM first, than all cables you can see. 
Power on.

If nothing happens.
Strip down all components on motherboard to bare minimum ie.:
- power supply
- one RAM module and
- graphic adapter

If you have known good components use them. It will tell you on the spot is 
motherboard OK or not. 

Try to reboot. 
If nothing happens look to reset CMOS RAM, usually there is some jumper, or 
simply pull the battery out and replace it. Don't rush, let capacitors 
discharge. 
Power on.

If nothing.
Do as you already did replace graphic adapter, than RAM, power supply one at 
the time and power on to check is there any changes. 
 
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