RE: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!! [SOLVED]
> This problem is not apparent when running on just the battery, the > system boots up in less than a minute and kpowersave reports the cpu > speed at 800 MHz. >>Yes I recall you started the thread with that problems statement. >>My prior reply was to someone who hijacked your thread to report >>the exact opposite problem from the one you posted. >>Yours is more than a little weird. Have you looked at top to >>see what is taking the resources? >>Is all your ram being seen when on battery as well as on mains? >> (Worrying about the dread Sony Disease here - bad ram sockets). >>I would cd to /proc/acpi/processor/CPU and start >>catting some of the files in there, such as throttling, power, >>and see if anything is amiss. It sounds like kpowersave may be >>not be reporting things accurately if it is obviously slower. Problem has disappeared since kernel update to latest version. Thanks for your help guys. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Roger.Munoz wrote: > I have a Sony Vaio VGN-FS415B laptop running opensuse 10.2. > > The problem I have is that when the system is running on AC adapter, > the system takes about two minutes to boot up, opengl screensavers and > video playback are > very jerky despite kpowersave reporting the cpu speed at 1.73 GHz!. > > This problem is not apparent when running on just the battery, the > system boots up in less than a minute and kpowersave reports the cpu > speed at 800 MHz. Yes I recall you started the thread with that problems statement. My prior reply was to someone who hijacked your thread to report the exact opposite problem from the one you posted. Yours is more than a little weird. Have you looked at top to see what is taking the resources? Is all your ram being seen when on battery as well as on mains? (Worrying about the dread Sony Disease here - bad ram sockets). I would cd to /proc/acpi/processor/CPU and start catting some of the files in there, such as throttling, power, and see if anything is amiss. It sounds like kpowersave may be not be reporting things accurately if it is obviously slower. -- _ John Andersen pgpfiH7h3i6Q1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
from mains > to battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. >That is perfectly normal. >On mains the pc runs at full speed. >On battery it drops to about half. Usually by changes to clock speed, sometimes by entering a >brief sleep mode. >You subtracted approx 50% of the CPU capability by switching to battery >So the cpu utilization goes up - it still has the same amount of work to do, but its clock speed >was reduced by the switch over so it takes it longer to do each thing. >This looks like a busier system, because it is busy a larger percent of the available cycles. >Nothing surprising here. I wish I was having the above problem but mine is totally different. I have a Sony Vaio VGN-FS415B laptop running opensuse 10.2. The problem I have is that when the system is running on AC adapter, the system takes about two minutes to boot up, opengl screensavers and video playback are very jerky despite kpowersave reporting the cpu speed at 1.73 GHz!. This problem is not apparent when running on just the battery, the system boots up in less than a minute and kpowersave reports the cpu speed at 800 MHz. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On Monday 26 February 2007, ken wrote: > I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to > battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. That is perfectly normal. On mains the pc runs at full speed. On battery it drops to about half. Usually by changes to clock speed, sometimes by entering a brief sleep mode. You subtracted approx 50% of the CPU capability by switching to battery So the cpu utilization goes up - it still has the same amount of work to do, but its clock speed was reduced by the switch over so it takes it longer to do each thing. This looks like a busier system, because it is busy a larger percent of the available cycles. Nothing surprising here. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On Monday 26 February 2007, Roger.Munoz wrote: > > I've had a look at top and nothing jumps out to suggest anything is > > wrong. I think the problem lies with acpi because if I turn off acpi > > at > > > boot, every thing is ok (apart from the fact the powersave functions > > are > > > disabled). > > > > Any more ideas? > > So turning off acpi is good. I'd suggest turning it back on and > shutting down powersaved just to see if you get the same results. As a long time Sony user: I can assure you turning off acpi on a sony of recent vintage is NOT the answer. These machines NEED acpi to keep all the peripherals running. There is something else wrong here. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On 02/26/2007 11:40 AM somebody named Roger.Munoz wrote: > On 02/26/2007 09:22 AM somebody named Roger.Munoz wrote: >>> solving this one? >>> >>> >>> Roger >> I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains > to >> battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. I > believe >> it's due to hald, its being confused, perhaps in some loop which takes > a >> lot of processing to resolve. >> >> The video is "jerky" probably because it's not getting enough CPU. > Try >> running "top" in a terminal before changing the power source and see >> what's running. >> >> >> >> Ken >> >> I've had a look at top and nothing jumps out to suggest anything is >> wrong. I think the problem lies with acpi because if I turn off acpi > at >> boot, every thing is ok (apart from the fact the powersave functions > are >> disabled). >> >> Any more ideas? >> > > > So turning off acpi is good. I'd suggest turning it back on and > shutting down powersaved just to see if you get the same results. If > so, read "man powersave/d" and try performing some commands manually. > Also have a look at /var/log/messages; you might find some error > messages for powersaved there. For example, I occasionally get > > WARNING in Function handleHWEventRequest; line 108: Could not read from > hwEvent fd: 4, error: Connection reset by peer > > What version of powersaved are you running? > > > Sorry about that but I don't send many an email to opensuse, in fact > this is the first time in about 2 years! > > I am running powersave-0.15.11-0.2 > > I've disabled powersave but I still encounter the same problem, so it > seems acpi is definitely the culprit IMO. > > Here is output from /var/log/acpid > > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event "battery BAT0 0080 > 0001" > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "battery BAT0 > 0080 0001" > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event "processor CPU0 > 0080 " > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "processor CPU0 > 0080 " > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event "processor CPU0 > 0081 " > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] > Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "processor CPU0 > 0081 " > Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: received event "battery BAT0 0080 > 0001" > Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] > Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] > Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "battery BAT0 > 0080 0001" > Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: received event "processor CPU0 > 0080 " > Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] > Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] > Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "processor CPU0 > 0080 " > Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: received event "processor CPU0 > 0081 " > Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] > Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] > Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "processor CPU0 > 0081 " > > > There are no errors in the messages file BTW. > It seems, then, that you and I are looking at different problems, so I guess we can't work on it together. As an afterthought, you might try disabling acpi's reporting on battery and other status reports (one at a time) to see if one of them is hanging your bootup. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On 02/26/2007 09:22 AM somebody named Roger.Munoz wrote: >> solving this one? >> >> >> Roger > > I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to > battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. I believe > it's due to hald, its being confused, perhaps in some loop which takes a > lot of processing to resolve. > > The video is "jerky" probably because it's not getting enough CPU. Try > running "top" in a terminal before changing the power source and see > what's running. > > > > Ken > > I've had a look at top and nothing jumps out to suggest anything is > wrong. I think the problem lies with acpi because if I turn off acpi at > boot, every thing is ok (apart from the fact the powersave functions are > disabled). > > Any more ideas? > So turning off acpi is good. I'd suggest turning it back on and shutting down powersaved just to see if you get the same results. If so, read "man powersave/d" and try performing some commands manually. Also have a look at /var/log/messages; you might find some error messages for powersaved there. For example, I occasionally get WARNING in Function handleHWEventRequest; line 108: Could not read from hwEvent fd: 4, error: Connection reset by peer What version of powersaved are you running? Sorry about that but I don't send many an email to opensuse, in fact this is the first time in about 2 years! I am running powersave-0.15.11-0.2 I've disabled powersave but I still encounter the same problem, so it seems acpi is definitely the culprit IMO. Here is output from /var/log/acpid Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event "battery BAT0 0080 0001" Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "battery BAT0 0080 0001" Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event "processor CPU0 0080 " Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "processor CPU0 0080 " Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: received event "processor CPU0 0081 " Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:53 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "processor CPU0 0081 " Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: received event "battery BAT0 0080 0001" Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "battery BAT0 0080 0001" Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: received event "processor CPU0 0080 " Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:56 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "processor CPU0 0080 " Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: received event "processor CPU0 0081 " Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3278[101:102] Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: notifying client 3638[0:0] Feb 26 16:18:57 wolverine [acpid]: completed event "processor CPU0 0081 " There are no errors in the messages file BTW. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On 02/26/2007 09:22 AM somebody named Roger.Munoz wrote: >> solving this one? >> >> >> Roger > > I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to > battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. I believe > it's due to hald, its being confused, perhaps in some loop which takes a > lot of processing to resolve. > > The video is "jerky" probably because it's not getting enough CPU. Try > running "top" in a terminal before changing the power source and see > what's running. > > > > Ken > > I've had a look at top and nothing jumps out to suggest anything is > wrong. I think the problem lies with acpi because if I turn off acpi at > boot, every thing is ok (apart from the fact the powersave functions are > disabled). > > Any more ideas? > First, you should reply to the list, not to me personally. Yeah, I know the way the list is set up is screwy, but that's just one of those annoyances we have to deal with. Secondly, you should leave the original statement of the problem in replies. Otherwise, you're expecting me and everyone else to remember your particular problem over whatever time span-- hours, days, weeks-- it takes to solve it... which isn't likely to happen. In general, there's two ways to resolve an issue: try to isolate it to the point where the fix is verifiable or thrown possible solutions at it until one sticks. The more of the first you do, the less/better of the latter you'll be doing. So turning off acpi is good. I'd suggest turning it back on and shutting down powersaved just to see if you get the same results. If so, read "man powersave/d" and try performing some commands manually. Also have a look at /var/log/messages; you might find some error messages for powersaved there. For example, I occasionally get WARNING in Function handleHWEventRequest; line 108: Could not read from hwEvent fd: 4, error: Connection reset by peer What version of powersaved are you running? hth, ken -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
> solving this one? > > > Roger I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. I believe it's due to hald, its being confused, perhaps in some loop which takes a lot of processing to resolve. The video is "jerky" probably because it's not getting enough CPU. Try running "top" in a terminal before changing the power source and see what's running. Ken I've had a look at top and nothing jumps out to suggest anything is wrong. I think the problem lies with acpi because if I turn off acpi at boot, every thing is ok (apart from the fact the powersave functions are disabled). Any more ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
On 02/26/2007 07:56 AM somebody named Roger.Munoz wrote: > Hi all > > > I have a Sony Vaio VGN-FS415B laptop running opensuse 10.2. > > The problem I have is that when the system is running on AC adapter, the > system takes about two minutes to boot up and video playback is very > jerky despite kpowersave reporting the cpu speed at 1.73 GHz!. > > This problem is not apparent when running on just the battery, the > system boots up in less than a minute and kpowersave reports the cpu > speed at 800 MHz. > > Has any one encountered the same problem and if so how do you go about > solving this one? > > > Roger I have almost the same problem on my Dell. When I switch from mains to battery, there's a CPU spike which lasts for several minutes. I believe it's due to hald, its being confused, perhaps in some loop which takes a lot of processing to resolve. The video is "jerky" probably because it's not getting enough CPU. Try running "top" in a terminal before changing the power source and see what's running. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sony Vaio speed issue - battery normal, AC slow !!!
Roger.Munoz wrote: > I have a Sony Vaio VGN-FS415B laptop running opensuse 10.2. > > The problem I have is that when the system is running on AC adapter, the > system takes about two minutes to boot up and video playback is very > jerky despite kpowersave reporting the cpu speed at 1.73 GHz!. > > This problem is not apparent when running on just the battery, the > system boots up in less than a minute and kpowersave reports the cpu > speed at 800 MHz. > I only have a few ideas you could try. Check the power management schemes in Yast, System, etc/sysConfig editor, System, Power management. There is one scheme for battery and one for on ac. Maybe try comparing the differences between them and try to change some of the things that are different til you find the culprit. Then, look deeper into that area to get a handle on how to make it do what you expect, or perhaps file a bug report. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
