Re: [opensuse] Cashier Machine for OpenSuSE Linux

2007-09-18 Thread Carl Spitzer
On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 11:01 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote: 
 
 Yeah, I've implemented a few hundred Epsons at work and they do not - as of 
 yet - have Linux drivers.  

I use Epson Action lazer 1500 but I use its HP emulation.  
Most Epsons have HP modes.

Quite a few local small business use this model BW only.
Slower than new but built like a tank about 30lb.  

Good thing because my cat is 25lb and likes to sleep on it.
So I keep it covered most days.

CWSIV

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Re: [opensuse] Cashier Machine for OpenSuSE Linux

2007-08-26 Thread Kai Ponte
On Sunday 26 August 2007 06:27, Patrik Hasibuan wrote:
 Dear my friends,

 Our company is developing an application for POS. It includes: Cashier
 Machine, Barcode reader, Cash Drawer, Credit Card reader and
 inventory+repository. It's basically a PC but equipped with the devices for
 a kind of shop.

 We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its platform. And we need
 to buy the machine as the development environment. They are: 1. PC Desktop;
 2. Barcode reader;
 3. Cash Drawer;
 4. Credit card reader.

 So now, the question is which devices we should choose to buy so we do not
 have too much work to build the application because our Development Time
 Frame is not enough to also build the device driver, typical device
 manager software and so on.

Most of the POS OEM peeps write wintendo API's.  Back when I worked for a POS 
software development company ('93-'95) we did all our work in DOS or OS/2. 

However, if you look around, you'll find some that do write UNIX/Linux apis.  

Your barcode scanner will be a simple serial/usb interface. It may not even 
have a driver.

The cash drawer and credit card reader may or may not have an interface. I'm 
using ones from various manufacters. I'll look on monday to see if they have 
*nix drivers.

You probably want to look at the individual devices and see what you can find.  
I know that large retailers here in the US often use *nix for their systems. 
(I think Lowe's uses it, for example.)

IBM may be a good bet for *nix integration.


 If it's possible please also give me the information to buy the device
 from. Virtual shop (website) is also OK. We are in Indonesia as the hint if
 you have the information of the shop where we can buy the device in
 offline-way.

Being in Indonesia, I'm surprised you don't have local suppliers.


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Re: [opensuse] Cashier Machine for OpenSuSE Linux

2007-08-26 Thread Rikard Johnels
On Sunday 26 August 2007 16:08, Kai Ponte wrote:
 On Sunday 26 August 2007 06:27, Patrik Hasibuan wrote:
  Dear my friends,
 
  Our company is developing an application for POS. It includes: Cashier
  Machine, Barcode reader, Cash Drawer, Credit Card reader and
  inventory+repository. It's basically a PC but equipped with the devices
  for a kind of shop.
 
  We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its platform. And we
  need to buy the machine as the development environment. They are: 1. PC
  Desktop; 2. Barcode reader;
  3. Cash Drawer;
  4. Credit card reader.
 
  So now, the question is which devices we should choose to buy so we do
  not have too much work to build the application because our Development
  Time Frame is not enough to also build the device driver, typical device
  manager software and so on.

 Most of the POS OEM peeps write wintendo API's.  Back when I worked for a
 POS software development company ('93-'95) we did all our work in DOS or
 OS/2.

 However, if you look around, you'll find some that do write UNIX/Linux
 apis.

 Your barcode scanner will be a simple serial/usb interface. It may not even
 have a driver.

 The cash drawer and credit card reader may or may not have an interface.
 I'm using ones from various manufacters. I'll look on monday to see if they
 have *nix drivers.

 You probably want to look at the individual devices and see what you can
 find. I know that large retailers here in the US often use *nix for their
 systems. (I think Lowe's uses it, for example.)

 IBM may be a good bet for *nix integration.

  If it's possible please also give me the information to buy the device
  from. Virtual shop (website) is also OK. We are in Indonesia as the hint
  if you have the information of the shop where we can buy the device in
  offline-way.

 Being in Indonesia, I'm surprised you don't have local suppliers.


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I was looking into this area a few years ago, as i was in the progress of 
starting my own company.
There were quite a few POS applications for Linux.
IF you decide in  developing you own propriety system it shouldn't be much of 
a problem either.

Have you made any searches online?
http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=en-usq=Linux+point+of+sale+systemie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8
yields a lot of interesting hits.

There is a Swedish company called Torex that does POS systems for restaurants, 
complete with scanners, touchscreens, creditcards and such.
They service /amon others) Hotels, Fashion, Giftshops, Fastfood and a lot 
more.
They run their application on either Windows or Linux platforms.
Fast and easy to learn, Very versatile.
http://www.torex.se/
You may want to take a look into that.


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Re: [opensuse] Cashier Machine for OpenSuSE Linux

2007-08-26 Thread Andre Truter
Hi Patrik,

On 26/08/07, Patrik Hasibuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

 We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its platform. And we need 
 to buy the machine as the development environment. They are:
 1. PC Desktop;
 2. Barcode reader;
 3. Cash Drawer;
 4. Credit card reader.


We implemented a POS system on openSUSE about 9 months ago.

The only POS printer that we could find that already have drivers is
the Fenix Imvico SM2000.
http://www.feniximvico.com/catalogo.php?ididioma=ENid_pro=7id_cat=16

The driver for CUPS is available for download.
http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=FenixImvico-SM_2000

Almost any barcode scanner will work as it acts as a keyboard.

We used the Metrologic Eclipse M5145
http://www.metrologic.com/corporate/products/pos/ms5145.htm

We also used a bar scanner from DigiPos:
http://www.digipos-systems.co.za/sd303more.asp

We used an Aqsonic cash drawer, but any cash drawer should work, they
plug into the printer and the printer open the cash drawer.  We used
the development driver of the SM2000 and it could not yet open the
drawer, but the production version should be able to do it.

If you want to write your application in Java, or maybe just write an
integration portion in Java, you can look at JavaPOS.
http://www.javapos.com/
This supports a number of POS hardware.

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Re: [opensuse] Cashier Machine for OpenSuSE Linux

2007-08-26 Thread Kai Ponte
On Sunday 26 August 2007 09:50, Andre Truter wrote:
 Hi Patrik,

 On 26/08/07, Patrik Hasibuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]

  We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its platform. And we
  need to buy the machine as the development environment. They are: 1. PC
  Desktop;
  2. Barcode reader;
  3. Cash Drawer;
  4. Credit card reader.

 We implemented a POS system on openSUSE about 9 months ago.

 The only POS printer that we could find that already have drivers is
 the Fenix Imvico SM2000.
 http://www.feniximvico.com/catalogo.php?ididioma=ENid_pro=7id_cat=16

Yeah, I've implemented a few hundred Epsons at work and they do not - as of 
yet - have Linux drivers.  

They do, however, support a Java environment, which can be used in any OS.

http://www.pos.epson-europe.com/support/drivers.htm

I haven't tried the jpos drivers yet.  Since my system was coded in C# to 
begin with, it shouldn't be much trouble to convert to mono.net or even have 
a component in java to run under *nix.

Here's the POS layout...

http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/lacrr/era_test_cashier_lg.jpg

Oh, and we're printing barcode labels using either Dymo or Zebra label 
printers.  Haven't checked on the SUSE-ability of either yet.

So far, the only way to get it to run on SUSE is under VMWare...

http://www.perfectreign.com/files/images/20070622_ERA_Linux2_1.jpg



 The driver for CUPS is available for download.
 http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=FenixImvico-SM_2000

 Almost any barcode scanner will work as it acts as a keyboard.

 We used the Metrologic Eclipse M5145
 http://www.metrologic.com/corporate/products/pos/ms5145.htm

 We also used a bar scanner from DigiPos:
 http://www.digipos-systems.co.za/sd303more.asp

 We used an Aqsonic cash drawer, but any cash drawer should work, they
 plug into the printer and the printer open the cash drawer.  We used
 the development driver of the SM2000 and it could not yet open the
 drawer, but the production version should be able to do it.

 If you want to write your application in Java, or maybe just write an
 integration portion in Java, you can look at JavaPOS.
 http://www.javapos.com/
 This supports a number of POS hardware.

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Re: [opensuse] Cashier Machine for OpenSuSE Linux

2007-08-26 Thread Hakan Koseoglu

Hi Patrik,


We are insist to make opensuse as the priority of its platform. And we need to 
buy the machine as the development environment. They are:
1. PC Desktop;
2. Barcode reader;
3. Cash Drawer;
4. Credit card reader.
If the programming language is Java, there is JavaPOS - which is 
platform independent and almost all device providers have JavaPOS 
drivers these days. These drivers support enable/disable etc. so instead 
of using wedge-device settings for the readers you can actually control 
them properly.


For the credit card, you're on your own. Most of these talk quite 
specific APIs but there is an open cash point solution from some guy in 
Venezuela but the name escapes my memory at the moment.


For disclosure, I work for a software company specialising on writing 
POS software. We use JavaPOS (obviously) and Linux (IRES or NLPOS) or 
WEPOS (or embedded XP or Win2k before that).


IBM has excellent POS machines with SuSE and JavaPOS support. They also 
have an integrated till build environment called IRES (which uses 
SLES9/NLDesktop 9)(IRES stands for IBM Retail Environment for SuSE).


For OpenSUSE, I'm not sure if any hardware vendor would be ready to 
support it. Unfortunately they only see SLES/RHEL as viable distributions.

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Re: [opensuse] Cashier Machine for OpenSuSE Linux

2007-08-26 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
Patrik Hasibuan escribió:
 Dear my friends,
 
 Our company is developing an application for POS. It includes: Cashier 
 Machine, Barcode reader, Cash Drawer, Credit Card reader and 
 inventory+repository. It's basically a PC but equipped with the devices for a 
 kind of shop.
 

http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpointofservice/


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