Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
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Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
* Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-05 14:24:17]: > Any suggestion regarding GUI tool to see the list and editing > environment variables. Yes, use gvim :) > KDE based tool will be nice. AFAIK Gvim is not part of KDE toolset but it's well integrated. Guillaume -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 22:31, Ken Jennings wrote: > On Wednesday 2007-06-06 00:20, M Harris wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 21:13, Kai Ponte wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Hi, my name is, Kai." > > > > > > (from audience) "Hi, Kai!" > > > > > > "I am a Kate user and I don't know Vi." > > > > Ok, these are for Kai... you have our pitty, but you are our > > friend. > > These desktop icon/scripts do not work here. A console window opens > for a second and then closes. But if I manually run the command > specified in the Exec= line in the file it launches Kate. > > ... > > Any ideas? The "Run in terminal" option should be deselected (Properties -> Application -> Advanced Options). Also, the use of nohup and the detachment of the command (the ampersand at the end) are unnecessary. Those options were required in my originals because they used Vim. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Wednesday 2007-06-06 00:20, M Harris wrote: > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 21:13, Kai Ponte wrote: > > > > > > "Hi, my name is, Kai." > > > > (from audience) "Hi, Kai!" > > > > "I am a Kate user and I don't know Vi." > > Ok, these are for Kai... you have our pitty, but you are our friend. These desktop icon/scripts do not work here. A console window opens for a second and then closes. But if I manually run the command specified in the Exec= line in the file it launches Kate. A minor quirk -- Nohup coughs up a notice to the shell : nohup: ignoring input and appending output to `nohup.out' I modified the command to 1) redirect nohup's stdout/stderr to the bit bucket, 2) use the -i option for stdin reading with Kate, and 3) just cat the bash history file, since I usually have line numbers turned on in Kate. Exec=nohup bash -c "(cat ~/.bash_history) | kate -i " >/dev/null 2>&1 & Still, the command works fine run from a command line, but clicking on the icon doesn't run Kate. I removed the redirections to make nohup.out and this text appears in the file each time the desktop icon "executes" -- I gather it is from Kate: QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter Any ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 01:00, Benji Weber wrote: > > Ok, these are for Kai... you have our pitty, but you are our > > friend. > > Apparently you don't know kate though. No need for temporary files, > just use kate -i to read from stdin. You are correct... in fact, I have never used kate. I think I dated her sister once... ... but seriously, I use VIM for all text editing. So, I'm learning about joe and kate and emacs...by the way... I knew there had to be a way to read from stdin with kate (but uffduh) I couldn't find it... :-Pthanks! :) -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On 06/06/07, M Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, these are for Kai... you have our pitty, but you are our friend. Apparently you don't know kate though. No need for temporary files, just use kate -i to read from stdin. _ Benjamin Weber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 21:13, Kai Ponte wrote: > > > "Hi, my name is, Kai." > > (from audience) "Hi, Kai!" > > "I am a Kate user and I don't know Vi." Ok, these are for Kai... you have our pitty, but you are our friend. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< KateEnv.desktop Description: application/desktop KateHist.desktop Description: application/desktop
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 06:29, Randall R Schulz wrote: > ... > The attached desktop file will, when activated, open a window that > shows the environment variables that will / would be in effect if > you were to launch an interactive BASH shell. Attached is a counterpart I use occasionally. It shows the accumulated BASH history. Randall Schulz ShowHist.desktop Description: application/desktop
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
Kai Ponte wrote: >> ...I suppose you could have the wrapper fire up emacs as well... but its >> a well >> known fact that real men use vi... so, there it is. >> > > > > "Hi, my name is, Kai." > > (from audience) "Hi, Kai!" > > "I am a Kate user and I don't know Vi." > Hey, Kai, I'm the ultimate blasphemer -- I'm an enthusiastic kate user, and I _do_ know vi :-). John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Tue, June 5, 2007 7:06 pm, M Harris wrote: > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 14:50, Randall R Schulz wrote: >> > Â Â Â Â Â Â ... he can't say it isn't gui... Â :) >> >> Well, in keeping with a contentious thread now many months in the >> past, >> I would. (Say it's not a GUI, that is.) > Yeah, I suppose so... > > ... and in keeping with that, may I remind those of you who want to > try > Randall's cool desktop environment variable display tool that there > are > several ways to scroll down through the list... since the scroll-bar > will not > help you, and the list is quite long: > > ctrl + f will page forward > > ctrl + b will page backward > > (depending on your setup, the Page keys will work also) > > j will scroll down line at a time... > > k will scroll up line at a time... > Oh, neat! > I suppose you could have the wrapper fire up emacs as well... but its > a well > known fact that real men use vi... so, there it is. > "Hi, my name is, Kai." (from audience) "Hi, Kai!" "I am a Kate user and I don't know Vi." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 14:50, Randall R Schulz wrote: > > ... he can't say it isn't gui... :) > > Well, in keeping with a contentious thread now many months in the past, > I would. (Say it's not a GUI, that is.) Yeah, I suppose so... ... and in keeping with that, may I remind those of you who want to try Randall's cool desktop environment variable display tool that there are several ways to scroll down through the list... since the scroll-bar will not help you, and the list is quite long: ctrl + f will page forward ctrl + b will page backward (depending on your setup, the Page keys will work also) j will scroll down line at a time... k will scroll up line at a time... I suppose you could have the wrapper fire up emacs as well... but its a well known fact that real men use vi... so, there it is. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 12:51, M Harris wrote: > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 08:29, Randall R Schulz wrote: > > The attached desktop file will, when activated, open a window that > > shows the environment variables that will / would be in effect if > > you were to launch an interactive BASH shell. > > Very clever... thanks! Very mildly clever... > ... he can't say it isn't gui... :) Well, in keeping with a contentious thread now many months in the past, I would. (Say it's not a GUI, that is.) > ... > M Harris <>< RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 08:29, Randall R Schulz wrote: > The attached desktop file will, when activated, open a window that shows > the environment variables that will / would be in effect if you were > to launch an interactive BASH shell. Very clever... thanks! ... he can't say it isn't gui... :) -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Tue, June 5, 2007 6:29 am, Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 00:08, M Harris wrote: >> On Tuesday 05 June 2007 01:36, Petr Klíma wrote: >> > The caveat is that >> > many variables might be set dynamically based on informations read >> > from other config files. One can even include his own script >> > setting his own set of variables. Many do this. >> >> Yes... >> >> ... however, if what you are looking for (at a moment in time) is a >> listing of "current" environment variables you can use the command: >> >> printenv > > The attached desktop file will, when activated, open a window that > shows > the environment variables that will / would be in effect if you were > to launch an interactive BASH shell. > > You can modify its command to create variants, of course. > > I created and use it in KDE, so I'm not sure if Gnome will use it, but > I > have this vague sense that they use the same .desktop file format. Thanks! I just installed that. In the past (going back to DOS 3.3 days) I would simply pipe the environment variables out to a text file. In that manner I can also save them by date - 20070604_kp_environment.txt - for example. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> set > 20070604_kp_environment.txt I've also thought about a gui program for environment variables. It would start as a YaST module. It would allow one to traverse the tree of environment variables. I would even think of breaking them up into sections, maybe calling them HIVES (hierarchical input variable environment settings) and then calling the program a - I dunno - registry. Yeah, that's it - I'm going to make a "registry" program for YaST! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 00:08, M Harris wrote: > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 01:36, Petr Klíma wrote: > > The caveat is that > > many variables might be set dynamically based on informations read > > from other config files. One can even include his own script > > setting his own set of variables. Many do this. > > Yes... > > ... however, if what you are looking for (at a moment in time) is a > listing of "current" environment variables you can use the command: > > printenv The attached desktop file will, when activated, open a window that shows the environment variables that will / would be in effect if you were to launch an interactive BASH shell. You can modify its command to create variants, of course. I created and use it in KDE, so I'm not sure if Gnome will use it, but I have this vague sense that they use the same .desktop file format. > -- > Kind regards, > > M Harris <>< Randall Schulz ShowENV.desktop Description: application/desktop
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 01:36, Petr Klíma wrote: > The caveat is that > many variables might be set dynamically based on informations read from > other config files. One can even include his own script setting his own > set of variables. Many do this. Yes... ... however, if what you are looking for (at a moment in time) is a listing of "current" environment variables you can use the command: printenv ... either with options or not... without will list to stdout *all* current environment variables for the current shell. It would be a very simple matter of wrapping a PerlTK (or tclTK) gui wrapper around this command to list the variable names in a listbox, and then the value in an edit box... the result of the gui command would be to export the current "edited" list on to the next shell or next process... You could just as easily pipe the output of printenv to a sed|gawk routine, or perl script, or even grep, to pick out specific envs. Just some thoughts... -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] GUI for environment variables
Well, that would be quite useless I guess. Viewer might make some sense, but editor would most probably not. To explain difficulty (well, next to impossibility) of such task you have to understand the way variables are set at shell start. Once shell process starts, it executes set of scripts. This script set varies depending whether the shell is login shell or not. And it may vary (and it does) between different shells too (there's bash, csh and many other shells). These scripts set the environment variables. The caveat is that many variables might be set dynamically based on informations read from other config files. One can even include his own script setting his own set of variables. Many do this. You can view e.g. /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile to see that these scripts are not that simple and their output (set of variables and their values) may vary between users, shells etc. Cheers, Tosuja -- Petr "Tosuja" Klíma Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tosuja.info ICQ: 52057532 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
