Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

S Glasoe wrote:
> Nope. Single instance of a single 9.3 install upgraded to 10.2 totally 
> trashed /boot/grub/menu.lst. 
That was the release notes copied verbatim.  I don't know why they
mention multiple instance, but when you update the kernel, it creates a
multiple instance situation, as it append a new line for the new kernel.
> I've checked/updated several 10.2 machines and 
> this happened on all of those. Where I may see a clue is in using the 
> generic vmlinuz and initrd links to the kernel versus appending the kernel 
> version. 
That was my point.  It is obviously a known issue.  If the original
links are vmlinuz and initrd without the version info added, it works
with no problem.
> I do believe that 10.2 has been using the appended version number 
> style. I thought that strange but didn't go change it to vmlinuz and initrd 
> assuming it wouldn't matter!
>
>   
It matters.  My point was there was mention (if not the clearest) of
this in the release notes.  I have upgraded my kernel here several times
(trying newest in the Kernel repository) and it has worked without fail,
as well as updating the kids kernel via YOU, but with the caveat I did
check the menu.lst to make sure it was using the links and not versioned
lines.

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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[S Glasoe]

On Thursday 15 March 2007 09:01:05 am Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> S Glasoe wrote:
> > Watch out for the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update either during or post
> > update/upgrade. Known issue is that /boot/grub/menu.lst is being
> > changed in ways that are not always user friendly. I advise making
> > backups of /boot/grub/menu.lst to /etc/or /home/some-user before doing
> > the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update.
>
> Make sure you follow the advice in the release notes, i.e.
> Booting Multiple Instances of openSUSE on One System
> If multiple instances of openSUSE 10.2 are installed on one machine and
> the instance in partition 2 is booted from the GRUB in partition 1, the
> entry in menu.lst in partition 1 for partition 2 should contain the
> entry: kernel /boot/vmlinuz
> initrd /boot/initrd
> instead of
> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-23-default
> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-23-default
> With this change, it is safe to update the kernel in partition 2 and the
> system can still be booted from partition 1.
>
> I suspect that is the problem you had Stan.  The update worked
> flawlessly here.
>
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> Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64

Nope. Single instance of a single 9.3 install upgraded to 10.2 totally 
trashed /boot/grub/menu.lst. I've checked/updated several 10.2 machines and 
this happened on all of those. Where I may see a clue is in using the 
generic vmlinuz and initrd links to the kernel versus appending the kernel 
version. I do believe that 10.2 has been using the appended version number 
style. I thought that strange but didn't go change it to vmlinuz and initrd 
assuming it wouldn't matter!

Hmmm

Stan
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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[Bernhard Walle]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-14 13:53]:
> 
>  for example. upgrade from SuSE 10.2 to 13.0 ?

cool, where can I get 13.0? I'd very interested, because then I can
relax next two year until we release 13.0 ... :)


Regards,
Bernhard


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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

S Glasoe wrote:
> Watch out for the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update either during or post 
> update/upgrade. Known issue is that /boot/grub/menu.lst is being changed in 
> ways that are not always user friendly. I advise making backups 
> of /boot/grub/menu.lst to /etc/or /home/some-user before doing the kernel 
> 2.6.18.8-0.1 update.
>
>   
Make sure you follow the advice in the release notes, i.e.
Booting Multiple Instances of openSUSE on One System
If multiple instances of openSUSE 10.2 are installed on one machine and
the instance in partition 2 is booted from the GRUB in partition 1, the
entry in menu.lst in partition 1 for partition 2 should contain the entry:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz
initrd /boot/initrd
instead of
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-23-default
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18.2-23-default
With this change, it is safe to update the kernel in partition 2 and the
system can still be booted from partition 1.

I suspect that is the problem you had Stan.  The update worked
flawlessly here.

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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[Philippe Andersson]

S Glasoe wrote:
> Watch out for the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update either during or post 
> update/upgrade. Known issue is that /boot/grub/menu.lst is being changed in 
> ways that are not always user friendly. I advise making backups 
> of /boot/grub/menu.lst to /etc/or /home/some-user before doing the kernel 
> 2.6.18.8-0.1 update.
S, it wasn't just me, then ;-)

Already noticed that on a server at home (fresh install). Thanks for the
tip, I'll keep it in mind.

Ph. A.

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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[S Glasoe]

On Thursday 15 March 2007 07:56:46 am Philippe Andersson wrote:
> Richard Bos wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:11:46PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> >> The Wednesday 2007-03-14 at 08:57 -0400, Abstract wrote:
> >>
> >> I upgraded from 9.3 to 10.2, via the install dvd.
> >
> > And me too :)
>
> I'm planning to do just that "real soon now" on several boxen (laptop,
> desktop, servers, 32bit, 64bit), some of them "mission critical" (like
> my laptop ;-) ).
>
> Any snag I have to watch for ? Any recommendation (outside of the usual
> "make a backup/mondoarchive first") ?
>
> Ph. A.

Watch out for the kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update either during or post 
update/upgrade. Known issue is that /boot/grub/menu.lst is being changed in 
ways that are not always user friendly. I advise making backups 
of /boot/grub/menu.lst to /etc/or /home/some-user before doing the kernel 
2.6.18.8-0.1 update.

Stan
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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[Philippe Andersson]

Richard Bos wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:11:46PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> The Wednesday 2007-03-14 at 08:57 -0400, Abstract wrote:
>>
>> I upgraded from 9.3 to 10.2, via the install dvd.
> 
> And me too :)
> 
I'm planning to do just that "real soon now" on several boxen (laptop,
desktop, servers, 32bit, 64bit), some of them "mission critical" (like
my laptop ;-) ).

Any snag I have to watch for ? Any recommendation (outside of the usual
"make a backup/mondoarchive first") ?

TIA

Cheers. Bye.

Ph. A.

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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[Richard Bos]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:11:46PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> The Wednesday 2007-03-14 at 08:57 -0400, Abstract wrote:
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> > I know in the past I heard you could not upgrade suse major
> > revision upgrades, just minor.
> 
> Rubish!
> 
> I upgraded from 9.3 to 10.2, via the install dvd.

And me too :)

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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

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The Wednesday 2007-03-14 at 08:57 -0400, Abstract wrote:

> I know in the past I heard you could not upgrade suse major
> revision upgrades, just minor.

Rubish!

I upgraded from 9.3 to 10.2, via the install dvd.


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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[riccardo35]

On Thu 15 Mar 2007 02:05, Bob S wrote:
> Don't know about now, but way back when, I upgraded 8.0 to
> 8.1 with apt-get.  Just changed my source files from 8.0 to 8.1 and
> let it go.  Worked pretty well but there were things that had to be
> fixed.
>
> Would be interesting to know if it can still be done.
___

Patrick Kirsch kindly advised:-

 . . . But upgrading from 10.1 to 10.2 to 10.3 should work with e.g. 
yast.

...

have a Good Day

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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[Bob S]

On Wednesday 14 March 2007 08:57, Abstract wrote:
> Adding to that, can smart or any other package manager be used
> instead?  I know in the past I heard you could not upgrade suse major
> revision upgrades, just minor.
>
> -rami
>
> On 3/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  - can yast be used to upgrade Distribution ?
> >
> >  for example. upgrade from SuSE 10.2 to 13.0 ?
> >
WelllDon't know about now, but way back when, I upgraded 8.0 to 
8.1 with apt-get.  Just changed my source files from 8.0 to 8.1 and let 
it go.  Worked pretty well but there were things that had to be fixed.

Would be interesting to know if it can still be done.

Bob S
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Re: [opensuse] Yast - to upgrade Distribution ?

[Abstract]

Adding to that, can smart or any other package manager be used
instead?  I know in the past I heard you could not upgrade suse major
revision upgrades, just minor.

-rami


On 3/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 - can yast be used to upgrade Distribution ?

 for example. upgrade from SuSE 10.2 to 13.0 ?


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