Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-19 Thread The Nice Spider
opensuse may better only support only one X Windows
officially rather than 
both gnome and kde. as you do on commercial suse linux
(SLES). support both 
(three, right? including fvwm2) is not productive. in
my personal 
experience, gnome is more stable and using firefox is
good choice than 
konqueror, many bug fixeds on firewall especially to
meet compatible to IE. 
but still put kde as extra/option. 


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-19 Thread Bjørn Lie
tir, 18,.07.2006 kl. 23.05 -0700, skrev The Nice Spider:
 opensuse may better only support only one X Windows
 officially rather than 
 both gnome and kde. as you do on commercial suse linux
 (SLES). support both 
 (three, right? including fvwm2) is not productive. in
 my personal 
 experience, gnome is more stable and using firefox is
 good choice than 
 konqueror, many bug fixeds on firewall especially to
 meet compatible to IE. 
 but still put kde as extra/option. 


Do you want some petrol to throw at that bonfire? ;-)

Bjørn


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-19 Thread houghi
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 09:59:43AM +0200, Bjørn Lie wrote:
 Do you want some petrol to throw at that bonfire? ;-)

LOL. It was indeed some bad trolling attempt. As long as WindowMaker is
supported, I don't mind SUSE paying a bit attention to things like KDE and
Gnome.

I tried XFCE for several months, but found it lacking some bits here and
there, especially in the easy of configuration. So if SUSE would help
there, that would be great. That is however more XFCE development then it
is SUSE development.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test updates for SUSE Linux 10.1

2006-07-19 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday 11 July 2006 9:22 am, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 [...]
 That's a bug in the spec file which triggers a strange behaviour in
 libzypp. :-

 Install novfs-kmp-default and be happy,

 We fixed this issue now - somebody come up with the right idea how to
 do it ;-)

I've just updated my repositories:
* package management: Fix the bug James had with e.g. installation of
  kdump kernel
* kernel: Add some additional fixes, especially security fixes.

The package management will go out today if our last tests passed,

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] skipping partition module

2006-07-19 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Po 10. Júl 2006 16:40 jdd napísal:
 Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
  You can activate the swap using linuxrc. But of course, it has to exist
  already when booting the installation.

 I could not achieve this :-(. I tried to go to a console  
 (alt Fx and there type swapon /dev/xxx (I have already a
 linux installed, so there is a swap), but this didn't chage
 anything :-(

Try this argument for booting the installation:

AddSwap: 0|3|/dev/hda5
 if 0, never ask for swap; if the argument is a positive number n, activate 
the nth swap partition; if the argument is a partition name, activate this 
swap partition

Stano

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[opensuse-factory] x86_64 and ppc gone?

2006-07-19 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

since a couple of days now the directories

   inst-source/suse/ppc/
   inst-source/suse/ppc64/
   inst-source/suse/x86_64/

are gone at factory.
What's about it?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] x86_64 and ppc gone?

2006-07-19 Thread Lars Rupp
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 12:57, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote (shortened):
 Hi,

 since a couple of days now the directories

 inst-source/suse/ppc/
 inst-source/suse/ppc64/
 inst-source/suse/x86_64/

 are gone at factory.
 What's about it?

Sorry. My fault: :-( During renaming to openSUSE I deleted the wrong 
line in our internal config...

x86_64 and ppc should be available again with the next build. Sorry for 
creating extra traffic,

Lars

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Re: [opensuse-factory] x86_64 and ppc gone?

2006-07-19 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Lars Rupp wrote:

On Wednesday 19 July 2006 12:57, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote (shortened):



since a couple of days now the directories

inst-source/suse/ppc/
inst-source/suse/ppc64/
inst-source/suse/x86_64/

are gone at factory.
What's about it?


Sorry. My fault: :-( During renaming to openSUSE I deleted the wrong
line in our internal config...

x86_64 and ppc should be available again with the next build. Sorry for
creating extra traffic,


OK, reappeared.
But now the repodata directory got lost...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha 2, Bug: Various bug when install using Text Mode

2006-07-19 Thread The Nice Spider
1. the color bug only happen after you press enter on
the LANGUAGE screen on 
text-mode.  I have test on 5 PC! note: all of my pc is
using onboard vga 
with various brand: asus and gigabyte.
2. ok
3. ok


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-19 Thread The Nice Spider
 tir, 18,.07.2006 kl. 23.05 -0700, skrev The Nice
Spider:
 opensuse may better only support only one X Windows
 officially rather than
 both gnome and kde. as you do on commercial suse
linux
 (SLES). support both
 (three, right? including fvwm2) is not productive.
in
 my personal
 experience, gnome is more stable and using firefox
is
 good choice than
 konqueror, many bug fixeds on firewall especially
to
 meet compatible to IE.
 but still put kde as extra/option.


 Do you want some petrol to throw at that bonfire?
;-)

 Bjørn

does this the purpose of pattern? or may I
misunderstanding this?
who send the petrol to ubuntu (gnome), xandos (kde),
fox (kde), rh desktop 
(gnome)? better we provide official package while
still include other 
package as extra/optional package, imho. 


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[opensuse-factory] Please change the Default Hostname and Domain

2006-07-19 Thread The Nice Spider
hi, i think better use this default setup value for:
1. hostname = localhost
2. domain name= localdomain
3. changing hostname via dhcp = not checked (currently
this option is 
checked).

why? because other package/program suggest this value,
i.e: mysql, sqlyog, 
most cms.
any documention usually say localhost as the
hostname, i.e: 
http://localhost. 


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[opensuse-factory] Can not access taskbak after new installation

2006-07-19 Thread The Nice Spider
1. after fresh install 10.2 aplha 2 and come to gnome,
i can not access the 
taskbar.
2. so, i am logout (ctrl-alt-del) and login again but
this error message 
appear: ... panel already running...exit  (something
like this message).
3. after click the message box and login again my
computer hang.
4. then i reset my pc... and this message appear
(continously):
- Trans replayed: mount 11, transid 129..
above text appear about 500 lines!
5. now, gnome work fine. 


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[opensuse-factory] There are 2 desktop on Gnome!

2006-07-19 Thread The Nice Spider
1. look at the task bar, after Places there is
Desktop but in right-bottom 
corner there Desktop Icon too. I think the Desktop
(with some app there, 
such as Control Center, yast, lock screen and logout)
is usefull and make 
confuse, better put only Lock Screen and Logout in
the Application.

2. Application task bar name is TOTALLY wrong! Because
there is System and 
Yast there. I think better used another name such as
..  i don't know. 
Look at:
a. WinXP, they named it Start
b. Redhat (for those who anti-windows, I give u this
sample), they only put 
the RH Logo

After user click the suse icon then the taskbar will
show all app in their 
category, this is more make sense

3. Please by default put the Desktop icon on left
side, opensuse not put it 
on right side. please provide click and drag of the
desktop. you can do that 
by modifying the gnome, i only told you the way even i
can not do it my self 
:) easy to speak cause i don't know how to modify
gnome. 


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Can not access taskbak after new installation

2006-07-19 Thread Andreas Jaeger
The Nice Spider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 1. after fresh install 10.2 aplha 2 and come to gnome,
 i can not access the 
 taskbar.
 2. so, i am logout (ctrl-alt-del) and login again but
 this error message 
 appear: ... panel already running...exit  (something
 like this message).
 3. after click the message box and login again my
 computer hang.
 4. then i reset my pc... and this message appear
 (continously):
 - Trans replayed: mount 11, transid 129..
 above text appear about 500 lines!
 5. now, gnome work fine. 

Please file this as a CRITICAL bugreport in bugzilla against GNOME,

Thanks,
Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Can not access taskbak after new installation

2006-07-19 Thread JP Rosevear
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 06:43 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 The Nice Spider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  1. after fresh install 10.2 aplha 2 and come to gnome,
  i can not access the 
  taskbar.
  2. so, i am logout (ctrl-alt-del) and login again but
  this error message 
  appear: ... panel already running...exit  (something
  like this message).
  3. after click the message box and login again my
  computer hang.
  4. then i reset my pc... and this message appear
  (continously):
  - Trans replayed: mount 11, transid 129..
  above text appear about 500 lines!
  5. now, gnome work fine. 
 
 Please file this as a CRITICAL bugreport in bugzilla against GNOME,

Considering that this is the same code we are shipping in SLE and we
have no relevant bug reports, I think this is at most MAJOR.

-JP
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Re: [opensuse-factory] There are 2 desktop on Gnome!

2006-07-19 Thread JP Rosevear
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 19:41 -0700, The Nice Spider wrote:
 1. look at the task bar, after Places there is
 Desktop but in right-bottom 
 corner there Desktop Icon too. I think the Desktop
 (with some app there, 
 such as Control Center, yast, lock screen and logout)
 is usefull and make 
 confuse, better put only Lock Screen and Logout in
 the Application.
 
 2. Application task bar name is TOTALLY wrong! Because
 there is System and 
 Yast there. I think better used another name such as
 ..  i don't know. 
 Look at:
 a. WinXP, they named it Start
 b. Redhat (for those who anti-windows, I give u this
 sample), they only put 
 the RH Logo
 
 After user click the suse icon then the taskbar will
 show all app in their 
 category, this is more make sense
 
 3. Please by default put the Desktop icon on left
 side, opensuse not put it 
 on right side. please provide click and drag of the
 desktop. you can do that 
 by modifying the gnome, i only told you the way even i
 can not do it my self 
 :) easy to speak cause i don't know how to modify
 gnome. 

The menu bar in 10.2 will be replaced by the main menu of SLE shortly.

-JP
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