Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2B2 first impression + bugs :)

2006-11-12 Thread Sid Boyce

Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

Wow, that looks just ever so much better than 10.1!!

Cool photo when booting the DVD.

The package selection and the use of colour is really good.

The evaluation bit when configuring the installation is superbly fast
now.

Minor:

When clicking on more info to find out exactly what information will
be transmitted to Novell for update-source configuration, the first
message is contacting server. A bit of a laugh, but not a good idea
for boosting confidence in privacy.



Details of the files sent can be verified, perhaps some words up front 
to reassure a new user would help, though most windows users I know 
would immediately still be suspicious of something that doesn't do its 
dirty work in secret.


During package selection (as part of initial install) I de-selected 
zmd, zen-updater, and whatever the third one is in the same group. They

still got installed and used though. Is this intentional? Did I do
something wrong, is this a bug, or not yet implemented?

Through work I had a lot to do with Debian recently, and there, multiple
repository configuration is easy, dependency resolution a matter of
seconds - beats the living daylights out of zmd. Sorry, but has to be
said.

No inst-sources are online yet, so can't test the yast tool(s) for
sources config and repo handling.



Right here has been my problem since Alpha, YaST complains it can't 
mount my DVD when it comes to installing or upgrading. I've filed a new 
 bug #220206.



Major:

Installation went smooth as, except for grub installation, which is as
critically broken as it is in 10.1. Yast proposes /etc/grub.conf which
grub --batch /etc/grub.conf barfs on (at least yast gives the option of
retry!), and in some cases the generated /etc/grub.conf is syntactically
incorrect (uses /dev/md, omitting the digit). Will enter bug shortly.

More later,

Volker



I booted from the DVD and selected the Upgrade option which went 
smoothly until the kdm login, then the mouse pointer was all over the 
place like a fly hit by fly spray. Reinstalling NVidia-9629 cured that.

So just the DVD mounting problem in YaST to be solved.
Regards
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box

2006-11-12 Thread Andreas Jaeger
jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm not sure of that, But I have the feeling than the boxes asking for
 OK, cancel, retry are not all the same.

 I mean that some times the OK button is on the right, sometimes on the
 left of the box (sometimes the OK is a big left icon, when most of the
 time the icons are only decoration.

If those are in YaST: Please make screenshots and open a bugreport,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box

2006-11-12 Thread jdd

Andreas Jaeger a écrit :

jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I'm not sure of that, But I have the feeling than the boxes asking for
OK, cancel, retry are not all the same.

I mean that some times the OK button is on the right, sometimes on the
left of the box (sometimes the OK is a big left icon, when most of the
time the icons are only decoration.


If those are in YaST: Please make screenshots and open a bugreport,


well... what is the normal way? (not necessary to fill a 
bug report in that case)


First case:

cancel  retry  OK

or second case

OK  cancel  retry

or???

thanks
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[opensuse-factory] Epson Stylus CX5300 not installed correctly

2006-11-12 Thread Keith Goggin
Hi,

When installing 10.2 B2 (X86 DVD) I found my Epson Stylus CX5300 printer was 
not properly configured. On subsequent YAST Hardware configuration it worked 
OK, however I was unable to configure the scanner by this method.

epson no scanner recognised by this driver
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[opensuse-factory] Initial Boot Screen

2006-11-12 Thread Keith Goggin
Hi,
When installing 10.2 B2 (X86 DVD) 

I found The F1 to F5 configuration options were dark blue and difficult to 
see. Previously reported here at Alpha4.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box

2006-11-12 Thread Andreas Jaeger
jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
 jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm not sure of that, But I have the feeling than the boxes asking for
 OK, cancel, retry are not all the same.

 I mean that some times the OK button is on the right, sometimes on the
 left of the box (sometimes the OK is a big left icon, when most of the
 time the icons are only decoration.

 If those are in YaST: Please make screenshots and open a bugreport,

 well... what is the normal way? (not necessary to fill a bug report
 in that case)

 First case:

 cancelretry  OK

 or second case

 OK  cancel  retry

 or???

I don't remember :-(.  Jiri?

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[opensuse-factory] Deselecting Zenworks

2006-11-12 Thread Keith Goggin
Hi,

When installing 10.2 B2 (X86 DVD)

I found deselecting Zenworks and selecting instead the lightweight 
alternative to Zenworks did not prevent the ubiquitous Zenworks from being 
installed. Note the red icon along side the deselected Zenworks is defined 
as Taboo-Never Install

I know this has already been reported but I think this is potentially very 
serious at this late stage of testing. 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box

2006-11-12 Thread Andras Mantia
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On Sunday 12 November 2006 13:07, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

 I don't remember :-(.  Jiri?

I'm sure it depends on the GUI style you want to follow. GNOME/GTK is=20
using Cancel OK, KDE/Qt is using OK Cancel...

IMO all dialogs in YaST Qt-GUI should use OK Cancel. Well, at least if=20
it's running under KDE. I know KDE has a setting to change the button=20
order so KDE apps look better under GNOME, but I'm not sure if it's=20
possible with pure Qt applications as well.

Andras

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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2B2 first impression + bugs :)

2006-11-12 Thread Glenn Holmer
On Sunday 12 November 2006 07:20, Andreas Hanke wrote:

 You're wrong, the grub installation is broken in a different way in
 Beta2 than in Beta1, it's just missing some lines in
 /boot/grub/menu.lst.

 There is nothing scandalous about it and it does not overwrite the
 MBR. Please try yourself before making such a judgement.

Oh! you are right! I had tried it on three machines, but all three had 
beta 1 installed previously, so naturally the MBR pointed there again.  
I booted back to 10.1, told him to write his GRUB to the MBR, then 
booted again and used the chainloader command against 10.2's boot 
partition.  His boot menu then showed normally (I had already fixed it 
to see the basilisk), which shows that the GRUB install did indeed work 
correctly.

I stand corrected, and apologize to the smart guys at Novell :)  I will 
bring beta 2 DVDs to our user group's Beer Meeting on Wednesday:

http://milwaukeelug.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BeerMeetingAtendees

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Re: [opensuse-factory] tn5250

2006-11-12 Thread Glenn Holmer
On Saturday 11 November 2006 05:52, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Glenn Holmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  What has happened to tn5250 (5250 terminal emulator for AS/400, er,
  iSeries) in 10.2? x3270 is still there...

 It's still part of the factory tree,

Got it, thanks.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ok box

2006-11-12 Thread jdd

Andras Mantia a écrit :


I'm sure it depends on the GUI style you want to follow. GNOME/GTK is=20
using Cancel OK, KDE/Qt is using OK Cancel...


why make things simple...

that's probably the rule. mozilla or yast gives yes No, 
cancel on the right, when GIMP gives cancel accept


I feel this quite perturbating as it makes me fail to do the 
right thing from time to time


But I didn't know it was a GUI war problem :-(((

thanks
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-12 Thread Andreas Hanke
Christoph Thiel schrieb:
 [...]

I'd like to point at bug 210935:

The istanbul package is completely broken. The current summary of this
bug is just a tiny subset the brokenness: It also installs its gconf
schemas into /etc/gconf which doesn't work at all and other ugly things.

I will attach a fix for the packaging brokenness shortly. The bug is
ugly because istanbul had already been broken (in a different way) in 10.1.

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[opensuse-factory] FACTORY_DEBUG

2006-11-12 Thread Hugo Costelha
Hi,

The FACTORY_DEBUG does not seem to be up to date regardning the FACTORY tree. 
The versions of the packages in the FACTORY_DEBUG tree semm to be one release 
older than the ones in the FACTORY_DEBUG tree.

Hugo
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-12 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 12 November 2006 17:42, Andreas Hanke wrote:
 And another one:

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220274

 I have heard that very often. I think it's a problem with the native
 x86_64 build and a duplicate of bug 219982 which is already Critical,
 but a confirmation would be nice.

I doubt it. Doesn't work at all with sun java 1.5 and starts slowly don't 
sound like duplicate bugs
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[opensuse-factory] cups-drivers-stp and beta2

2006-11-12 Thread Hugo Costelha
It has been mentioned in bug 
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218762 , although it is not the 
problem reported in that bug.

When configurim my printer (an HP PSC 1510) it asks me to install some 
packages. One of them is cups-drivers-stp, which I cannot find anywhere. It 
is not on the DVD beither on the factory tree (all the other requested 
packages are available).

Is this packages supposed to exist, or it is an error when YaST demands for 
this package?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 bug prioritization

2006-11-12 Thread Andreas Hanke
Anders Johansson schrieb:
 On Sunday 12 November 2006 17:42, Andreas Hanke wrote:
 And another one:

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220274

 I have heard that very often. I think it's a problem with the native
 x86_64 build and a duplicate of bug 219982 which is already Critical,
 but a confirmation would be nice.
 
 I doubt it. Doesn't work at all with sun java 1.5 and starts slowly don't 
 sound like duplicate bugs

It's both specific to x86_64 and there was another report (don't have
the # at hand) where the reporter said that completely removing Sun Java
resolved the slowness.

It doesn't really matter whether it's a duplicate, an OOo startup time
of almost 2 minutes is certainly unacceptable and needs more attention
than Normal, especially if it happens to many people.
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[opensuse-factory] Re: cups-drivers-stp and beta2

2006-11-12 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Sunday 12 November 2006 16:48, Hugo Costelha wrote:
 It has been mentioned in bug
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218762 , although it is not the
 problem reported in that bug.

 When configurim my printer (an HP PSC 1510) it asks me to install some
 packages. One of them is cups-drivers-stp, which I cannot find anywhere.
 It is not on the DVD beither on the factory tree (all the other requested
 packages are available).

 Is this packages supposed to exist, or it is an error when YaST demands for
 this package?


Nevertheless, I configured even without installing this package, and the 
printer seems to be working fine (although I didn't test it thoroughly).

What was this packages supposed to do?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2B2 DVD

2006-11-12 Thread Martin Schlander
Søndag 12 november 2006 17:47 skrev Kenneth Schneider:
 I wish to seed the 10.2B2 DVD but need the name of a tracker. Can
 someone supply me with one?

I dunno, but a workaround (I've done it with Ktorrent and Azureus) is to get 
the torrent and start downloading, pause the download, replace the new file 
with the already downloaded iso, ask the client to re-verify the data (right 
click the download), when it has verified that you actually have the entire 
file it'll be ready to seed.

Martin
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[opensuse-factory] Repository stripping

2006-11-12 Thread Martin Schlander
I just read Pascals blog on his stripping of the guru mirror.
http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2006/11/repository-stripping.html

The obvious question now is why don't we do something similar with our repos?

Of course we should provide easy acces to debuginfo and source packages - but 
maybe these could be moved to a seperate repo for easy access for those who 
needs them.

Advantages:
- Less metadata for parse-metadata to choke on
- Less n00bs installing debuginfo by mistake. I wanted to install 
thunderbird, why does it take up huge amounts of space?.. oh, yes, I 
installed debuginfo too, just to be safe, I didn't know what it was or if I 
needed it
- Quicker refresh, less bandwidth needed
- Quicker package manager startup because of less package information needing 
to be read etc.

(PS. actually I'm not quite sure how the src.rpms are handled right now, but 
moving the debuginfo packages would improve performance substantially I 
guess)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: cups-drivers-stp and beta2

2006-11-12 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Hugo Costelha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sunday 12 November 2006 16:48, Hugo Costelha wrote:
 It has been mentioned in bug
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218762 , although it is not the
 problem reported in that bug.

 When configurim my printer (an HP PSC 1510) it asks me to install some
 packages. One of them is cups-drivers-stp, which I cannot find anywhere.
 It is not on the DVD beither on the factory tree (all the other requested
 packages are available).

 Is this packages supposed to exist, or it is an error when YaST demands for
 this package?


 Nevertheless, I configured even without installing this package, and the 
 printer seems to be working fine (although I didn't test it thoroughly).

 What was this packages supposed to do?

No idea - please file a bug report!

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: cups-drivers-stp and beta2

2006-11-12 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Sunday 12 November 2006 17:13, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Hugo Costelha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Sunday 12 November 2006 16:48, Hugo Costelha wrote:
  It has been mentioned in bug
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218762 , although it is not
  the problem reported in that bug.
 
  When configurim my printer (an HP PSC 1510) it asks me to install some
  packages. One of them is cups-drivers-stp, which I cannot find
  anywhere. It is not on the DVD beither on the factory tree (all the
  other requested packages are available).
 
  Is this packages supposed to exist, or it is an error when YaST demands
  for this package?
 
  Nevertheless, I configured even without installing this package, and the
  printer seems to be working fine (although I didn't test it thoroughly).
 
  What was this packages supposed to do?

 No idea - please file a bug report!

Done. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=220278

Hugo
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[opensuse-factory] Usb devices permission problems with OSS 10.2 beta 2

2006-11-12 Thread Juan Erbes

HI!
I installed from zero OSS 10.2 beta 1 and updated it to beta 2, and as
user I could'nt connect my usb cam with digikam, and the same problem
I has with the usb scanner.
As root the usb devices works ok.
How resolve this problem?

Thanks
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[opensuse-factory] beta 2 install

2006-11-12 Thread jdd

very few problems, if any.

I had the beta 1, so did an update.

* very long. I have a celeron 600, not fast, but lot of ram 
(450Mo) - more than 6 hours update from cd's.


* I had at the very end a greeting message félicitations de 
la part de Novell (I'm french). Shouldn't it be greetings 
from openSUSE?


* it's an old problem, but I have not found any simple way 
to change the graphic card driver. I have a not very good 
display (lines of text are followed by lines, that make the 
screen seem like a zebra - probably a HW problem, very old 
card), but I wanted to try vesa and frame buffer drivers.


I could find no way to do that simply with sax2.

I needed to go root, init 3 and RTFM the sax2 man page and 
help page


I tried sax2-vesa, with no difference, so I don't even know 
if this changed the driver :-(


they definitively should be a menu entry in sax2 to change 
the card driver


(Nvidia card, I don't mind to try the proprietary driver)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Use Ctrl+Arrows to walk through the desktops

2006-11-12 Thread Martin Schlander
Søndag 12 november 2006 20:36 skrev Rasmus Plewe:
 On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 05:35:44PM +, Hugo Costelha wrote:
  I usually use the Ctrl+Arrows to walk through the desktops, and untill
  openSUSE 10.2 Beta 2, I think KDE came allways with that sortcut on.
 
  Is there a reason openSUSE 10.2 does not have these shortcuts on by
  default on KDE?

 I've had to manually define this very behaviour in every Suse Linux KDE
 version for as long as I can remember.

I've always been using ctrl+tab.

Alt+arrow sounds Compizish to me.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Use Ctrl+Arrows to walk through the desktops

2006-11-12 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:42, Martin Schlander wrote:
 Søndag 12 november 2006 20:36 skrev Rasmus Plewe:
  On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 05:35:44PM +, Hugo Costelha wrote:
   I usually use the Ctrl+Arrows to walk through the desktops, and
   untill openSUSE 10.2 Beta 2, I think KDE came allways with that sortcut
   on.
  
   Is there a reason openSUSE 10.2 does not have these shortcuts on by
   default on KDE?
 
  I've had to manually define this very behaviour in every Suse Linux KDE
  version for as long as I can remember.

 I've always been using ctrl+tab.

 Alt+arrow sounds Compizish to me.

Sorry, my mistake. I meant to say Ctrl+Tab and Ctrl+Shif+Tab, not using 
ctrl and arrows.

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Font Funkiness

2006-11-12 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 12 November 2006 12:01, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 Hi,

 I just witnessed an odd phenomenon and I'm wondering if it's a sign
 of a problem or an aspect of the way font rendering operates (I can
 imagine it either way).

 ...

Oops. I forgot to include any system information:

- openSUSE 10.2b2 (just upgraded from 10.2b1, itself upgraded from 
10.2alpha5)
- Intel x86 processor (Core 2 Duo)
- 4GB RAM

% rpm -qa |egrep -i 'freetype'
freetype-1.3.1-1188
freetype2-2.2.1.20061027-3
freetype2-devel-2.2.1.20061027-3

% rpm -qa |egrep -i 'xorg-x11-server'
xorg-x11-server-sdk-7.2-17
xorg-x11-server-7.2-17


(See http://software.opensuse.org/download/M17N/SUSE_Linux_10.1/i586/ 
for the FreeType RPMs.)


Randall Schulz
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Re: [opensuse-factory] iso missing

2006-11-12 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006, Hans Witvliet wrote:


I tought i finnished download the lot, however..

the url pointing to x86-64 Language Add-On
Producec a 1200 byte xml file saying that the file is not there!


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:01:06 /mirr/bin  dir 
/pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/iso/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso
-rw-r--r--  1 emoenke gwdg 643903488 2006-11-10 18:36 
/pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/iso/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:01:29 /mirr/bin 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] iso missing

2006-11-12 Thread Robert Schiele
On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 09:55:28PM +0100, Hans Witvliet wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I tought i finnished download the lot, however..
 
 the url pointing to x86-64 Language Add-On
 Producec a 1200 byte xml file saying that the file is not there!

There is something broken with this CD anyway because the file on the server
is different from the one you get when you apply the corresponding delta-iso.

Robert

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Re: [opensuse-factory] iso missing

2006-11-12 Thread Robert Schiele
On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 10:03:07PM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:01:06 /mirr/bin  dir 
 /pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/iso/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso
 -rw-r--r--  1 emoenke gwdg 643903488 2006-11-10 18:36 
 /pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/iso/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:01:29 /mirr/bin 

Yes, and the one you get by applying the delta-iso is 644057088 bytes...

Robert

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Re: [opensuse-factory] iso missing

2006-11-12 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006, Robert Schiele wrote:

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 09:55:28PM +0100, Hans Witvliet wrote:



I tought i finnished download the lot, however..

the url pointing to x86-64 Language Add-On
Producec a 1200 byte xml file saying that the file is not there!


There is something broken with this CD anyway because the file on the server
is different from the one you get when you apply the corresponding delta-iso.


But the MD5 sum is OK:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:10:26 
/ftp/pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/iso  grep 
openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso MD5SUMS
2d69c321e5dc9c04751878a68f7a5d29  openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:10:45 
/ftp/pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/iso  md5sum 
openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso
2d69c321e5dc9c04751878a68f7a5d29  openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:11:14 
/ftp/pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/iso 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] iso missing

2006-11-12 Thread Robert Schiele
On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 10:13:20PM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sun, 12 Nov 2006, Robert Schiele wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 09:55:28PM +0100, Hans Witvliet wrote:
 
 I tought i finnished download the lot, however..
 
 the url pointing to x86-64 Language Add-On
 Producec a 1200 byte xml file saying that the file is not there!
 
 There is something broken with this CD anyway because the file on the 
 server
 is different from the one you get when you apply the corresponding 
 delta-iso.
 
 But the MD5 sum is OK:

Yes, I have seen that.  So there are two possible causes:

a) The files are completely different (which should obviously not be the
   case).

b) The file was already corrupted when the MD5SUM file was created.

Robert

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Re: [opensuse-factory] iso missing

2006-11-12 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006, Hans Witvliet wrote:

On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 22:03 +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006, Hans Witvliet wrote:



I tought i finnished download the lot, however..

the url pointing to x86-64 Language Add-On
Producec a 1200 byte xml file saying that the file is not there!


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:01:06 /mirr/bin  dir 
/pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/iso/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso
-rw-r--r--  1 emoenke gwdg 643903488 2006-11-10 18:36 
/pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/iso/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:01:29 /mirr/bin 



I guess the torrent link is ok, the delta alsobut

for the link on page http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version

http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/delta-iso/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.iso

I get:
Object not found!


But it is existing:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:31:01 /mirr/bin  dir 
/pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/delta-iso/openSUSE-10.2-Beta1_Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.delta.iso
-rw-r--r--  1 emoenke gwdg 46026513 2006-11-09 16:06 
/pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Beta2/delta-iso/openSUSE-10.2-Beta1_Beta2-Addon-Lang-x86_64.delta.iso
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2 22:31:27 /mirr/bin 

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