[opensuse-factory] 10.3Alpha5

2007-06-25 Thread Donn Washburn

Hey SuSE;

So far Alpha 5 has very welcome new feature.  That is - during a install 
 the install script request to setup the Network before off loading 
files.rpms from the DVD.  It is good because something is missing from 
the DVD/CD Yast will go look for it before stating the file is missing.
It did miss getting a copy of the latest Release Notes.  However, a set 
of Release Notes did showup after setting up "User" info.


First reboot the VGA= information was not supplied based on my original 
setup.


I noted a KDE Updater effort to upgrade the same file that the Setup 
update did. already update.


Problem!!  when I went back to a F2 - F6 tty session the LCD just 
flashes.  F7 or F8 fail to return to KDE.  Further more the machine is 
lockup.  I have not set the runlevel options yet.


This machine is a LapTop HP NC6400/Intel 945 GM/512M memory- SuSE SLED 
worked correctly.  I set it via SaX2 from SuSE's setup 24 bit to 16 bit 
and so far it is working.


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[opensuse-factory] http install

2007-06-25 Thread Hans Witvliet
Hi,

Just re-installed a little via-box with 10.2.
After booting, i tried to add the option:
install=suse.a-domani.nl/10.2, my local install & update server.

It looks like during install, IPv6 is not recognized.
Neither by name, nor by adres can the installationsource be reached.
After (DVD-)installation, i can set my installation-source without any
problem to suse.a-domani.nl/10.2 and update.a-domani.nl/10.2, which are
ipv6-only websites

Is this intentionally, or a possible enhancement ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Hack Week

2007-06-25 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello,

Nat Friedman wrote:
> During Hack Week, our entire Linux engineering team -- hundreds of
> people -- will be working on whatever Linux or open source projects
> interest them.  Everyone will work alone or in teams, on existing open
> source projects or new ideas of their own.  No one will tell them what
> or what not to do -- it's a free week for free hacking, driven by
> individual passion.
>   
Does this also mean, that no factory release this week? I'm eagerly
waiting for a new, complete PPC factory release...
Bye,
CzP
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: How can we integrate OpenVZ into openSUSE ?

2007-06-25 Thread Adrian Schröter
On Monday 25 June 2007 10:17:30 wrote Adrian Schröter:
> On Sunday 24 June 2007 11:11:35 wrote Hans Witvliet:
> > On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 18:38 -0400, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> > > Alexey Eremenko escribió:
> > > > I believe SUSE should not be limited by Xen-only approach.
> > >
> > > and I believe openSUSE should do one thing, and do it right, not many
> > > half working virtualization alternatives.
> >
> > You wrote about OpenSuSE:
> > But isn't that the essential idea behind "the open source community"?
> > Walk all paths (by the people who know what they are doing).
> > The best (working/supported) solution will gain the most users.
> >
> > If you only present a single option, people can not choose...
> > (Same goes with kde/gnome any many other sw-packages, not?)
> >
> > If the O.P. can develop a working xen-alternative and put it on the
> > build-server: fine by all means. Community, and the suse team will look
> > at it and evalute it. If it's more-of-the-same, it won't be picked up.
> > If it's better, or has more potential, well, who knows...
>
> To avoid such problems, we created the "Project Modell" in the build
> service. This means that everything can get available there under the way
> and control by the people who contributing to that project.
>
> But this does not mean that everything has to go to Factory. There are even
> additional rules which needs to be fullfilled for Factory like:
>
>  * common user interesst ( I think this is true for openVZ ).
>  * quality and esp. security design flaws needs to be checked before
>  * Maintainance needs to be ensured for two years. That needs a person
>who understand the code internals and can backport or create fixes for
>the version which was part of the release. Can we ensure this ?

I forgot to mention ...

In general, I agree that we should have only one solution and do it right with 
this one. But I see that there are different use-cases for XEN and openVZ.

XEN can be used for supporting complete different systems, while openVZ is 
usually used to create effizient multiple instances of the same system.

bye
adrian


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: How can we integrate OpenVZ into openSUSE ?

2007-06-25 Thread Adrian Schröter
On Sunday 24 June 2007 11:11:35 wrote Hans Witvliet:
> On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 18:38 -0400, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> > Alexey Eremenko escribió:
> > > I believe SUSE should not be limited by Xen-only approach.
> >
> > and I believe openSUSE should do one thing, and do it right, not many
> > half working virtualization alternatives.
>
> You wrote about OpenSuSE:
> But isn't that the essential idea behind "the open source community"?
> Walk all paths (by the people who know what they are doing).
> The best (working/supported) solution will gain the most users.
>
> If you only present a single option, people can not choose...
> (Same goes with kde/gnome any many other sw-packages, not?)
>
> If the O.P. can develop a working xen-alternative and put it on the
> build-server: fine by all means. Community, and the suse team will look
> at it and evalute it. If it's more-of-the-same, it won't be picked up.
> If it's better, or has more potential, well, who knows...

To avoid such problems, we created the "Project Modell" in the build service. 
This means that everything can get available there under the way and control 
by the people who contributing to that project.

But this does not mean that everything has to go to Factory. There are even 
additional rules which needs to be fullfilled for Factory like:

 * common user interesst ( I think this is true for openVZ ).
 * quality and esp. security design flaws needs to be checked before
 * Maintainance needs to be ensured for two years. That needs a person
   who understand the code internals and can backport or create fixes for 
   the version which was part of the release. Can we ensure this ?

bye
adrian

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Integration of external repositories

2007-06-25 Thread Adrian Schröter
On Sunday 24 June 2007 16:45:38 wrote Rafał Miłecki:
> Andreas Jaeger mentioned over month ago that openSUSE 10.3 will
> provide better integration of external repos:
> http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-announce/2007-05/msg2.html
>
> I use openSUSE FACTORY version and can not see any nice method of
> adding Packman or Guru in YaST. Is any team doing something about
> this? I think openSUSE needs some easy way of adding 3rd party
> repositories.

There is already the yast2-metapackage-handler in factory what will be used 
for this (also). You can already create .ymp files on the server side to make 
use of it.

Have a look at Benji's pages for more details:

 http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/bweber/daily/060507/

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Integration of external repositories

2007-06-25 Thread Rafał Miłecki

2007/6/25, Jiri Srain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Dne neděle 24 červen 2007 23:19 Rafał Miłecki napsal(a):
> 2007/6/24, Bernhard Walle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > We simply can't rebuild all our packages on each beta release (or even
> > on each Factory sync). We usually start in the RC phase because of
> > library freeze, so that packages are ready with the final release.
>
> Are you serious!? Adding such a functionality in RC (Thu, Sep 20:
> openSUSE 10.3 Release Candidate 1 release) gives us only 14 days for
> finding and fixing bugs. It's extremely short time.

I guess you are talking about adding the functionality into the installer
(which must be done before RC, while the list of availble repos can be
updated during RC phase) while Bernhard is talking about creating the packman
repository.

The integration into installer is being worked on, however, I cann't promise
any particular Alpha/Beta release which will contain it.


Ah, now I see I was misunderstood. I absolutely don't want
Packman/Guru team to prepare packages for Alpha/Beta/Factory.

I meant possibility of one-click-adding Packman or Guru repo to
"Installation sources" using some YaST's module. Just to make normal
user's life simpler.

Example: someone want to play DivX, so we say sth like:
1) Open YaST
2) Click "New source"
3) Check "Packman"
4) Click "Add"
5) Install "Mplayer" using "Software Management"
Over.

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