Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta-2 + nvidia-drivers
2007/8/30, Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You indicated that you used kernel-smp, but Philipp Thomas says that > kernel-default is SMP, so My kernel is a kernel-smp (default installation into a pentium 4 with HT). My workstation is a Dell Precision 380. Thank you! -- Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets Dijo Confucio: "Exígete mucho a ti mismo y espera poco de los demás. Así te ahorrarás disgustos."
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta-2 + nvidia-drivers
On Thursday 30 August 2007 04:05:05 pm Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > rpm -q kernel-smp kernel-source > > > to see that you do have the *same* versions installed > > You indicated that you used kernel-smp, but Philipp Thomas says that > kernel-default is SMP, so It was 'bigsmp' in error report >> The kernel header file >> '/lib/modules/2.6.22.3-7-bigsmp/build/include/linux/kernel.h' >> does not exist... But there is another question, is it necessary 'bigsmp'. TooMany Secrets should have a big machine (> 4GB RAM, etc) to need it. -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta-2 + nvidia-drivers
* TooMany Secrets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-30-07 12:04]: > 2007/8/30, Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > do from cl: > > Excuse me but, what would you say with "cl"? shell/prompt? yes, shell/prompt > >rpm -q kernel-smp kernel-source > > to see that you do have the *same* versions installed You indicated that you used kernel-smp, but Philipp Thomas says that kernel-default is SMP, so -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
On Thursday 30 August 2007 16:15:41 Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: > Christian Morales Vega wrote: > > On Thursday 30 August 2007 10:09:44 Alexey Eremenko wrote: > >> Hi Susers ! > >> > >> Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed > >> in Windows for many years before. > >> > >> More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter > >> misconfigurations. > >> > >> It is called: BulletProofX ! > >> > >> I would like to see this included into openSUSE (11.0 ?), and > >> available as an addon for openSUSE 10.3. > >> > >> Home Page: > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX > > > > Ubuntu wiki talks about "Xorg7.3Integration"... will X.org 7.3 help with > > this? I understand that it will provide input and ouput hotplug, but can > > this help? What are the normal problems that make X unable to start, are > > just misconfigured "Device Section" or there are other things that can > > make it unable to start (even if we have EDID...)? > > And what is going Ubuntu to make exactly? They talk about a "GDM Failsafe > > Server that isn't supported by KDM"??? > > Have a look e.g. at Bug 304142. Such or similar may come up with new > monitor device name strings and/or graphics chipsets anytime. > > FMF > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, that was a bug in SaX2. Even if we had something like BulletProofX a bug like that one would have the same consequences. Same problem for Ubuntu if their DisplayConfigGTK happens to have a similar bug. There is little we can do to avoid a problem like the one shown in that bug. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta-2 + nvidia-drivers
2007/8/30, Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > do from cl: Excuse me but, what would you say with "cl"? shell/prompt? >rpm -q kernel-smp kernel-source > to see that you do have the *same* versions installed > > also be sure that kernel-smp and kernel-source match in architecture > (i586/x86_64) Perfect. Also, i will try this. > aiui, linux-kernel-headers is not required for the NV... install. Ok. Thank you very much!! -- Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets Dijo Confucio: "Exígete mucho a ti mismo y espera poco de los demás. Así te ahorrarás disgustos."
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta-2 + nvidia-drivers
2007/8/30, Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > do from cl: Excuse me but, what would you say with "cl"? shell/prompt? >rpm -q kernel-smp kernel-source > to see that you do have the *same* versions installed > > also be sure that kernel-smp and kernel-source match in architecture > (i586/x86_64) Perfect. Also, i will try this. > aiui, linux-kernel-headers is not required for the NV... install. Ok. Thank you very much!! -- Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets Dijo Confucio: "Exígete mucho a ti mismo y espera poco de los demás. Así te ahorrarás disgustos."
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta-2 + nvidia-drivers
* Patrick Shanahan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070830 16:55]: >rpm -q kernel-smp kernel-source That's rpm -q kernel-default kernel-source kernel-default *is* the SMP kernel. Philipp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta-2 + nvidia-drivers
* TooMany Secrets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-30-07 10:31]: > Please, excuse me if it isn't the right list, and for my bad english... you are doing very well :^) > I have a 10.3 beta-2 (upgraded today at 15:30 GMT+2), with > kernel-source and linux-kernel-headers installed. The problem is when > I try to install the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run driver, > because I obtain every time this error: > > The kernel header file > '/lib/modules/2.6.22.3-7-bigsmp/build/include/linux/kernel.h' does not > exist... > do from cl: rpm -q kernel-smp kernel-source to see that you do have the *same* versions installed also be sure that kernel-smp and kernel-source match in architecture (i586/x86_64) aiui, linux-kernel-headers is not required for the NV... install. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta-2 + nvidia-drivers
TooMany Secrets schrieb: > Please, excuse me if it isn't the right list, and for my bad english... > > I have a 10.3 beta-2 (upgraded today at 15:30 GMT+2), with > kernel-source and linux-kernel-headers installed. The problem is when > I try to install the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run driver, > because I obtain every time this error: > > The kernel header file > '/lib/modules/2.6.22.3-7-bigsmp/build/include/linux/kernel.h' does not > exist... > > Anybody could help me, please? You have to prepare the kernel sources for you configuration. Running cd /usr/src/linux make cloneconfig make prepare-all should do it. Cheers Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta-2 + nvidia-drivers
Hi!
Please, excuse me if it isn't the right list, and for my bad english...
I have a 10.3 beta-2 (upgraded today at 15:30 GMT+2), with
kernel-source and linux-kernel-headers installed. The problem is when
I try to install the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run driver,
because I obtain every time this error:
The kernel header file
'/lib/modules/2.6.22.3-7-bigsmp/build/include/linux/kernel.h' does not
exist...
Anybody could help me, please?
Thank you very much.
--
Have a nice day ;-)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
Christian Morales Vega wrote: On Thursday 30 August 2007 10:09:44 Alexey Eremenko wrote: Hi Susers ! Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed in Windows for many years before. More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter misconfigurations. It is called: BulletProofX ! I would like to see this included into openSUSE (11.0 ?), and available as an addon for openSUSE 10.3. Home Page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX Ubuntu wiki talks about "Xorg7.3Integration"... will X.org 7.3 help with this? I understand that it will provide input and ouput hotplug, but can this help? What are the normal problems that make X unable to start, are just misconfigured "Device Section" or there are other things that can make it unable to start (even if we have EDID...)? And what is going Ubuntu to make exactly? They talk about a "GDM Failsafe Server that isn't supported by KDM"??? Have a look e.g. at Bug 304142. Such or similar may come up with new monitor device name strings and/or graphics chipsets anytime. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
On Thursday 30 August 2007 10:09:44 Alexey Eremenko wrote: > Hi Susers ! > > Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed > in Windows for many years before. > > More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter > misconfigurations. > > It is called: BulletProofX ! > > I would like to see this included into openSUSE (11.0 ?), and > available as an addon for openSUSE 10.3. > > Home Page: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX Ubuntu wiki talks about "Xorg7.3Integration"... will X.org 7.3 help with this? I understand that it will provide input and ouput hotplug, but can this help? What are the normal problems that make X unable to start, are just misconfigured "Device Section" or there are other things that can make it unable to start (even if we have EDID...)? And what is going Ubuntu to make exactly? They talk about a "GDM Failsafe Server that isn't supported by KDM"??? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 35
Hello Marcio, On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 08:30 -0300, Druid wrote: > > > > There are a couple of exceptions to this, that I should have mentioned. The > > most important ones are: > > * GNOME (upcoming 2.20) > > * KDE4 > > > > Isnt this a huge change to be made while we are in beta, and cant it > maybe lead to major breakage and lots of bugs? I mean, gnome is > usually buggy, but as it may affect other stuff (like gtk programs...) > > sounded kinda bad for me, but maybe I dont have all the information, > who knows... That is a good question. We are tracking each of the Beta releases of GNOME 2.20 which will release before openSUSE-10.3. The only reason this is possible is that GNOME has freezes (feature, string, code, etc.) that are at least as strict if not more than our own. There is actually very little risk here. We have done this in the past with and even tighter schedule, 10.0 iirc. -Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 305195
On 30/08/07 13:40, Florin Samareanu wrote: > if it helps, i`m not affected by this bug. > florin-laptop:~ # cat /etc/SuSE-release > openSUSE 10.3 (i586) Beta2 > VERSION = 10.3 > me neither : # rpm -qa | grep nautilus- nautilus-sendto-0.10-32 nautilus-2.19.6-14 nautilus-open-terminal-0.7-101 nautilus-cd-burner-2.19.6-12 nautilus-share-0.7.0-103 grant -- Grant Croker, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Software Engineer - http://ingres.com Poets have tried to describe Ankh-Morpork. They have failed. Perhaps it's the sheer zestful vitality of the place, or maybe it's just that a city with a million inhabitants and no sewers is rather robust for poets, who prefer daffodils and no wonder. -- (Terry Pratchett, Mort) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
On 30/08/2007, Alex Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all > > For a solution some of you could help to create, the idea is using YaST > profile + SaX2 -a with a boot menu options which trigger a flag to run > SaX2 -a as needed and if X being configure correctly it will using YaST > profile to reserve the configuration. > Of course you can use the same way to boot menu trigger the SaX -a or > even firsttime, but "very end user" may like the automagically way. I would have thought it would be more sensible to add a check to the /etc/init.d/xdm init script to start SaX2 in event of displaymanager failing to start. Unfortunately KDM returns 0 on X start failure, and the init script thinks it was successful. _ Benjamin Weber - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default package request
* Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-30-07 07:23]: > what is pin ? 07:40 wahoo:~ > whatis pin pin (1) - Package InformatioN ps: Please trim your replies -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 305195
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 13:02 +0200, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: > Bernhard Walle wrote: > > * Frank-Michael Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-08-30 12:44]: > > > >> Is there someone who does not experience this bug with Beta2? If not, I > >> should raise it to "Blocker". > >> > > > > Please don't. As Christoph pointed out in the last status mail, GNOME > > will be updated anyway before openSUSE 10.3 gets released. So, maybe > > that update also fixes this bug ... > > > > > if it helps, i`m not affected by this bug. florin-laptop:~ # cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 10.3 (i586) Beta2 VERSION = 10.3 > The question is not whether Gnome gets updated before release. The > question is: will the to be released Gnome be beta tested before the > release? And if yes, why not bugzilla bugs the proper way? > > FMF > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 35
> > There are a couple of exceptions to this, that I should have mentioned. The > most important ones are: > * GNOME (upcoming 2.20) > * KDE4 > Isnt this a huge change to be made while we are in beta, and cant it maybe lead to major breakage and lots of bugs? I mean, gnome is usually buggy, but as it may affect other stuff (like gtk programs...) sounded kinda bad for me, but maybe I dont have all the information, who knows... Best Regards Marcio --- druid - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default package request
On 8/30/07, Alex Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all
>
> Is that possible to install pin by default?
>
> So we can create the next great thing call pin-install ... meaning base
> on the pin info after locating the package which is missing and trigger
> the install ?
>
> Thanks
> Alex
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 305195
Bernhard Walle wrote: * Frank-Michael Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-08-30 12:44]: Is there someone who does not experience this bug with Beta2? If not, I should raise it to "Blocker". Please don't. As Christoph pointed out in the last status mail, GNOME will be updated anyway before openSUSE 10.3 gets released. So, maybe that update also fixes this bug ... The question is not whether Gnome gets updated before release. The question is: will the to be released Gnome be beta tested before the release? And if yes, why not bugzilla bugs the proper way? FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
On 8/30/07, Cristian Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clayton escribió: > > > > So.. I would say this is definitely a critical request. > > Then our concept of critical is very different. And you've missed the point altogether thinking like a programmer/developer is fine if that is to be the audience for openSUSE but you're leaving the general user out in the cold. As a friend of mine says to me when I'm trying to explain how to do something on his Linux install (he is only a recent Linux user) "You're going all kernel on me again!" Saying that sax.sh -a is a perfectly fine solution to the problem is "going all kernel" on people. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Default package request
Dear all Is that possible to install pin by default? So we can create the next great thing call pin-install ... meaning base on the pin info after locating the package which is missing and trigger the install ? Thanks Alex --- 刘俊贤 Alex Lau PRC Beijing Linux R&D Engineer Mainland-Mobile (8610) 13910181404 HongKong-Mobile (852) 91621631 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 305195
* Frank-Michael Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-08-30 12:44]: > Is there someone who does not experience this bug with Beta2? If not, I > should raise it to "Blocker". Please don't. As Christoph pointed out in the last status mail, GNOME will be updated anyway before openSUSE 10.3 gets released. So, maybe that update also fixes this bug ... Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
Dear all For a solution some of you could help to create, the idea is using YaST profile + SaX2 -a with a boot menu options which trigger a flag to run SaX2 -a as needed and if X being configure correctly it will using YaST profile to reserve the configuration. Of course you can use the same way to boot menu trigger the SaX -a or even firsttime, but "very end user" may like the automagically way. --- 刘俊贤 Alex Lau PRC Beijing Linux R&D Engineer Mainland-Mobile (8610) 13910181404 HongKong-Mobile (852) 91621631 >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 6:32 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Benji Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30/08/2007, Cristian Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> no joke, when your xserver is misconfigured and dont work, you are >> redirected to a console no ? so, sax.sh -a will just fix your problem.. > > I think the original point was it would be nicer to redirect straight > to sax2 -a. sax2 -a whilst solving the problem is completely useless > to anyone who doesn't know that it exists. > > _ > Benjamin Weber > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Bug 305195
Is there someone who does not experience this bug with Beta2? If not, I should raise it to "Blocker". FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
On 30/08/2007, Cristian Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > no joke, when your xserver is misconfigured and dont work, you are > redirected to a console no ? so, sax.sh -a will just fix your problem.. I think the original point was it would be nicer to redirect straight to sax2 -a. sax2 -a whilst solving the problem is completely useless to anyone who doesn't know that it exists. _ Benjamin Weber - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
CyberOrg escribió: > Yeah, it has been around for a long time, it works quite well. Indeed, it works just fine. > now we > should make it automatic so user doesn't have to know any commands or > do it manually. Hrmm.. yes, but in what specific situations should it be triggered automagically ? Im not sure if all the situations can be covered.. -- Cristian Rodríguez R. SUSE R&D "You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them." --Ray Bradbury - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
Clayton escribió: > So.. I would say this is definitely a critical request. Then our concept of critical is very different. -- Cristian Rodríguez R. SUSE R&D "You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them." --Ray Bradbury - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
Frank-Michael Fischer escribió: > > "sax.sh -a"? What kind of a joke is this supposed to be? no joke, when your xserver is misconfigured and dont work, you are redirected to a console no ? so, sax.sh -a will just fix your problem.. Somebody > deserving the description "user" versus "administrator" or "programmer" > should not even be allowed to know, that "sax" exists. you already use sax, to configure your X server anyway, but via the GUI that is not available when X crashes because there is no X server running then ;) -- Cristian Rodríguez R. SUSE R&D "You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them." --Ray Bradbury - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
Cristian Rodriguez wrote: Alexey Eremenko escribió: Hi Susers ! Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed in Windows for many years before. and that exists in SUSE since many many years. type sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. no critical feature request . doh ! "sax.sh -a"? What kind of a joke is this supposed to be? Either we are interested in broadening the market or in pushing THE platform for developers. Developers, however, do not need any "sax.sh" they just need "lspci", "vi" and some "xorg.conf" to start from. Somebody deserving the description "user" versus "administrator" or "programmer" should not even be allowed to know, that "sax" exists. Let's get serious about openSUSE, please. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] /repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ URL change
Hi, Factory users, esp, these who are using the 1-Click install from the openSUSE build service will need to re-add the repo behind http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ which points now to the yast meta data, instead of the yum meta data. YaST will not be able to keep this repo up2date otherwise due to the format change. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
> > and that exists in SUSE since many many years. > > > > type > > > > sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. > > You didn't get the point. It is intended for Windows users, who don't > want to type at all. > > It should "just work", and no SUSE doesn't have it. I have replaced my > nVidia card with internal VIA KM400 video chip, and know what ? > openSUSE's X crashed ! It may have existed, but... who knew? I've been using SUSE since 6.0. I never knew it existed. I may be documented somewhere, but your average user won't see it or understand it. If you say man sax2, I'll say "go away!" (the polite translation of what I would really be saying) New users are really baffled by it all when X dies and they are stuck at the CLI. I can deal with it, and I know how to recover it (although I've NEVER heard of or used sax.sh -a), but some poor new user is really lost. So.. I would say this is definitely a critical request. Stop thinking like a programmer/power user and start thinking like an end user... Elegant X crash recovery is desperately needed as Alexey pointed out. C - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
> and that exists in SUSE since many many years. > > type > > sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. You didn't get the point. It is intended for Windows users, who don't want to type at all. It should "just work", and no SUSE doesn't have it. I have replaced my nVidia card with internal VIA KM400 video chip, and know what ? openSUSE's X crashed ! -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
On 8/30/07, Cristian Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexey Eremenko escribió: > and that exists in SUSE since many many years. > > type > > sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. > > no critical feature request . doh ! Yeah, it has been around for a long time, it works quite well, now we should make it automatic so user doesn't have to know any commands or do it manually. With everyone trying to run compiz on all kinds of supported/unsupported graphics card many people do mess up their xorg.conf. So to do it transparently would be 'critical enhancement' ;) Cheers -J - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
Alexey Eremenko escribió: > Hi Susers ! > > Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed > in Windows for many years before. and that exists in SUSE since many many years. type sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. no critical feature request . doh ! -- Cristian Rodríguez R. SUSE R&D "You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them." --Ray Bradbury - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
On 30/08/2007, CyberOrg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/30/07, Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:. > > > > More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter > > misconfigurations. > > > > It is called: BulletProofX ! > > > > I would like to see this included into openSUSE (11.0 ?), and > > available as an addon for openSUSE 10.3. > > > > It is a good idea, if X fails to load, we can have 'sax2 -a' run and > try launching X again, if that doesn't work, cp > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then launch X. > > Worth enhancement request on bugzilla. Yeah, definitely worth doing. _ Benjamin Weber - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
On 8/30/07, Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:. > > More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter > misconfigurations. > > It is called: BulletProofX ! > > I would like to see this included into openSUSE (11.0 ?), and > available as an addon for openSUSE 10.3. > It is a good idea, if X fails to load, we can have 'sax2 -a' run and try launching X again, if that doesn't work, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then launch X. Worth enhancement request on bugzilla. Cheers -J - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
Hi Susers ! Ubuntu team have just developed an excellent technology, that existed in Windows for many years before. More specifically, the ability to recover from Graphics Adapter misconfigurations. It is called: BulletProofX ! I would like to see this included into openSUSE (11.0 ?), and available as an addon for openSUSE 10.3. Home Page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
