[opensuse-factory] will 10.3 have scim-qtimm for qt4?
Hi,there, I can not find the scim-qtimm for qt4 in the openSuse10.3 beta3, so I can not type Chinese using scim in any qt4 program,will 10.3 have scim-qtimm for qt4? Would you plan to add the package to 10.3? Thank you very much. -- --Pang Dawei - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 37
Hi! Didn't manage to write the status yesterday, I guess in calmer weeks it will be easier :) status report: week 37 - Christoph was responsible for beta2 and beta3, I took back over after beta3 was released (thanks for all the warm words, btw). - bug count is biggest concern right now. We're down from 12 blocker and 98 critical on saturday to 5 blocker and 91 critical (this of course include massive testing from all side, so we see new bugs every hour). - Biggest non-working part seems to be update right now. It creates problems in several parts. Update from 10.1 was completely unsupported with beta3, update from 10.2 created broken bootloader config in parts. - we reorganized the DVD layout again, so we fit more packages suggested in patterns and remove things that aren't listed in patterns. - we found a solution for the bundle-lang problem, so that we can save space on the CDs without breaking update to FTP later - we're still discussing if we go with ipw or iwl as default for the newer Intel wlan chips. iwl still has issues, but ipw is no longer maintained by Intel (but is our default as I write) - libzypp in beta3 had severe problems, so we have to have good faith for RC1 (online update was broken and the online update to fix it wasn't pulled in for everyone - and update from 10.2-x86_64 has shown problems) - the bigsmp kernel still causes problems (not just on virtualbox), so I decided to revert that feature and go with bigsmp only on big smp machines again (we might have a pae kernel in the future, so we're still interested in figuring out what's the problem with the other kernel). - LiveCDs of beta3 have shown too many problems to release them. So we only use them for further developing of them - this week: - more bug fixing - daily builds till we have a working update from 10.2 on coolo's laptop and a half way working update from 10.1 on coolo's wife computer (I admit it sounds selfish :) - an internal build with DVD. Based on that I'll publish live CDs. If you miss anything, let me know. Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] will 10.3 have scim-qtimm for qt4?
Please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 在 2007-09-12三的 14:44 +0800，Pang Dawei写道： Hi,there, I can not find the scim-qtimm for qt4 in the openSuse10.3 beta3, so I can not type Chinese using scim in any qt4 program,will 10.3 have scim-qtimm for qt4? Would you plan to add the package to 10.3? Thank you very much. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 37
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Kulow schreef: Hi! Didn't manage to write the status yesterday, I guess in calmer weeks it will be easier :) status report: week 37 - Christoph was responsible for beta2 and beta3, I took back over after beta3 was released (thanks for all the warm words, btw). - bug count is biggest concern right now. We're down from 12 blocker and 98 critical on saturday to 5 blocker and 91 critical (this of course include massive testing from all side, so we see new bugs every hour). - Biggest non-working part seems to be update right now. It creates problems in several parts. Update from 10.1 was completely unsupported with beta3, update from 10.2 created broken bootloader config in parts. - we reorganized the DVD layout again, so we fit more packages suggested in patterns and remove things that aren't listed in patterns. - we found a solution for the bundle-lang problem, so that we can save space on the CDs without breaking update to FTP later - we're still discussing if we go with ipw or iwl as default for the newer Intel wlan chips. iwl still has issues, but ipw is no longer maintained by Intel (but is our default as I write) - libzypp in beta3 had severe problems, so we have to have good faith for RC1 (online update was broken and the online update to fix it wasn't pulled in for everyone - and update from 10.2-x86_64 has shown problems) - the bigsmp kernel still causes problems (not just on virtualbox), so I decided to revert that feature and go with bigsmp only on big smp machines again (we might have a pae kernel in the future, so we're still interested in figuring out what's the problem with the other kernel). - LiveCDs of beta3 have shown too many problems to release them. So we only use them for further developing of them - this week: - more bug fixing - daily builds till we have a working update from 10.2 on coolo's laptop and a half way working update from 10.1 on coolo's wife computer (I admit it sounds selfish :) - an internal build with DVD. Based on that I'll publish live CDs. If you miss anything, let me know. Greetings, Stephan Right! Get them, Tiger! ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG55IoX5/X5X6LpDgRAmG/AKDVYfYyWRMr5mmPVTZec+i/CD64TQCgkE0e gFPvWohp+BmL0mf77fj99iY= =QdAh -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] centrino wlan: ipw3945 or iwl3945 or both?
Hi all, with my last update from factory my system got a new kernel (2.6.22.5-12), and as i could see after the next reboot, no more wireless lan (intel 3945bg). With lsmod i could see two modules regarding wlan: ipw3945 and iwl3945. I tried to configure it via Yast, but Yast told me that it is unable to configure network card because kernel device is not present. So i downgraded back to 2.6.22.5-10, which was the last kernel with running wireless lan driver, but now that doesnt work too. How can i get back a working wlan-configuration? thx, Jens - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: What changed between Build1005 and Build1010 in x86_64?
To check what has changed, you can check the opensuse-commit list: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2007-09/date.html It will show you all changes by date. The compiler has not been changed past Beta3, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpaUxmFvFqkt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] will 10.3 have scim-qtimm for qt4?
Dear Wu Peng Do you know? Alex --- 刘俊贤 Alex Lau PRC Beijing Linux RD Engineer Mainland-Mobile (8610) 13910181404 HongKong-Mobile (852) 91621631 On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 2:44 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pang Dawei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,there, I can not find the scim-qtimm for qt4 in the openSuse10.3 beta3, so I can not type Chinese using scim in any qt4 program,will 10.3 have scim-qtimm for qt4? Would you plan to add the package to 10.3? Thank you very much. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 37
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-09-12 at 08:42 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: - libzypp in beta3 had severe problems, so we have to have good faith for RC1 (online update was broken and the online update to fix it wasn't pulled in for everyone - and update from 10.2-x86_64 has shown problems) Installation from DVD on PATA with more than 16 partitions is broken. Install is not possible. According to bugzilla, the culprit is libzypp. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG571htTMYHG2NR9URAkQsAJ9PIV7L7u4Kr925+hJbbmraAulucwCePzbL IBQYO7X38Kogs6ml//2/Tvs= =NASk -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 37
Dňa Wednesday 12 September 2007 12:20:16 Carlos E. R. ste napísal: The Wednesday 2007-09-12 at 08:42 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: - libzypp in beta3 had severe problems, so we have to have good faith for RC1 (online update was broken and the online update to fix it wasn't pulled in for everyone - and update from 10.2-x86_64 has shown problems) Installation from DVD on PATA with more than 16 partitions is broken. Install is not possible. According to bugzilla, the culprit is libzypp. Bug number? Stano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: What changed between Build1005 and Build1010 in x86_64?
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 10:53 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: To check what has changed, you can check the opensuse-commit list: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2007-09/date.html It will show you all changes by date. The compiler has not been changed past Beta3, The other thing is that there was a rev change (from 3 to 4) with no source change. Did we intentionally bump everything before RC1? -JP -- JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: What changed between Build1005 and Build1010 in x86_64?
Hi, On Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 08:34:52, JP Rosevear wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 10:53 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: To check what has changed, you can check the opensuse-commit list: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2007-09/date.html It will show you all changes by date. The compiler has not been changed past Beta3, The other thing is that there was a rev change (from 3 to 4) with no source change. Did we intentionally bump everything before RC1? You mean release? Rebuilds always increment the Release tag by 1 in factory and by .1 in released products. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: What changed between Build1005 and Build1010 in x86_64?
JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 10:53 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: To check what has changed, you can check the opensuse-commit list: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2007-09/date.html It will show you all changes by date. The compiler has not been changed past Beta3, The other thing is that there was a rev change (from 3 to 4) with no source change. Did we intentionally bump everything before RC1? You mean a change of the build number? We increase it always when we rebuild and one of the packages it depends on has been changed. JP, you were once complaining that after a rebuild the number was not increased even if it contained different dependencies - now it is really increased ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpFtk0tE7nuQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: What changed between Build1005 and Build1010 in x86_64?
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 03:08:17PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 08:34:52, JP Rosevear wrote:
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 10:53 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
To check what has changed, you can check the opensuse-commit list:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2007-09/date.html
It will show you all changes by date. The compiler has not been changed
past Beta3,
The other thing is that there was a rev change (from 3 to 4) with no
source change. Did we intentionally bump everything before RC1?
You mean release? Rebuilds always increment the Release tag by 1 in
factory and by .1 in released products.
Only if the rpms can reach customers, like the FACTORY rpms do.
Cheers,
Michael.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
Christoph Thiel wrote: Hi everyone, as some of you have already noticed, we have slightly changed the language support in openSUSE 10.3. To give you an update of what languages will be supported on which media set, here is a short summary. KDE / GNOME CD: The 1CD's is English-only, _BUT_ you can get all packages supporting your language from the online repositories! the kde cd behavior is quite surprising. on summary, the boot for install system uses localization, when the main system don't (waste of space :-) One *can* choose any langage at boot (first screen) and use his prefered one for the install (good) and this langage is still kept through all the install and on the final one, but after the first reboot, suddenly, the device config windows pops ups then desapear without notice (one can't use it) and kdm starts. so one is in kdm, with only root configured and with english langage (the local langage is configured, but the files are not there, so only english works). if it happen, like for me, than the root pass uses keys not in the same position as qwerty (here the m), I coudn't log - long time after I understood than I had to use the qwerty keyboard. the problem is minor. however you could keep some more place suppressing the (here french) keyboard layout for install system (or keep it for the final install) at least there should a warning: from this point on you will be forced to use a qwerty keyboard jdd -- http://www.dodin.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-09-12 at 16:48 +0200, jdd wrote: if it happen, like for me, than the root pass uses keys not in the same position as qwerty (here the m), I coudn't log - long time after I understood than I had to use the qwerty keyboard. the problem is minor. however you could keep some more place suppressing the (here french) keyboard layout for install system (or keep it for the final install) It would be better to include support for all keyboards layouts right on the CD. Exclude the language strings if the space is needed, but include the keyboard layouts. I believe those files are small enough to be included. Plus, on the first install screen ask for both language and keyboard (in the same screen), which may be different; for instance, I have Spanish keyboard but prefer to use English in software. at least there should a warning: from this point on you will be forced to use a qwerty keyboard Which is a nuisance. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG6AFttTMYHG2NR9URAlGDAJ4jZjgqKEFTQsWSXN8Ono2bFNHTsgCggeIS OuvOPolil2Q+ZZPhE4fCmZU= =K6sL -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] /etc/modprobe.d/unsupported.blacklist
Hi everyone, your help is needed ;) Can you run this small command $ tail -1 /etc/modprobe.d/unsupported.blacklist and check if the last line reads ## include modules.unsupported.blacklist ? If it does, then everything is fine. If it's _not_ commented out and you surely didn't tweak anything related to handling of unsupported modules (setting LOAD_UNSUPPORTED_MODULES_AUTOMATICALLY in sysconfig) in a previous install, can you please comment in bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=304652 ? Thank you very much for your time, Michal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
Am Wednesday 12 September 2007 schrieb Carlos E. R.: The Wednesday 2007-09-12 at 16:48 +0200, jdd wrote: if it happen, like for me, than the root pass uses keys not in the same position as qwerty (here the m), I coudn't log - long time after I understood than I had to use the qwerty keyboard. the problem is minor. however you could keep some more place suppressing the (here french) keyboard layout for install system (or keep it for the final install) It would be better to include support for all keyboards layouts right on the CD. Exclude the language strings if the space is needed, but include the keyboard layouts. I believe those files are small enough to be included. The keyboard layouts are on CD and you can configure them. But there is no prominent place, you need to go to Expert tab. Something to improve for the next release. Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. schreef: The Wednesday 2007-09-12 at 16:48 +0200, jdd wrote: if it happen, like for me, than the root pass uses keys not in the same position as qwerty (here the m), I coudn't log - long time after I understood than I had to use the qwerty keyboard. the problem is minor. however you could keep some more place suppressing the (here french) keyboard layout for install system (or keep it for the final install) It would be better to include support for all keyboards layouts right on the CD. Exclude the language strings if the space is needed, but include the keyboard layouts. I believe those files are small enough to be included. Plus, on the first install screen ask for both language and keyboard (in the same screen), which may be different; for instance, I have Spanish keyboard but prefer to use English in software. at least there should a warning: from this point on you will be forced to use a qwerty keyboard Which is a nuisance. I want to put my voice to this: Keybord support from start ( no choice: usa naturel ) Personaly i think that hal (or whatever used hwdetection) is able to see what keybord layout is used, so i think that the choice would be obvious, from hardware point of vieuw, and thus could be preselected, without any problem. (except that it has to be implemented?) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG6D9FX5/X5X6LpDgRAsAIAJ9FSeL2MFLi2P+wPg+RRzPgBJcnAgCg3zMW V7/Ayxs+9nlwy1q9RhbPMZo= =yP5a -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-09-12 at 21:20 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: It would be better to include support for all keyboards layouts right on the CD. Exclude the language strings if the space is needed, but include the keyboard layouts. I believe those files are small enough to be included. The keyboard layouts are on CD and you can configure them. But there is no prominent place, you need to go to Expert tab. Something to improve for the next release. If I'm not mistaken, you need to get to the proposal before you can change the keyboard. What I say is that the keyboard should be configurable right at the start of the install, before it asks for the license acceptation, in the same screen where it ask for the language to use during the installation. Not the same thing. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG6D9utTMYHG2NR9URAnSfAJ9TZnZTp+r4FmVab2cge5hx+dKT3wCeJOaZ YwTkyVzUA1SG0kdXLOM+7AM= =qSK1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
Am Wednesday 12 September 2007 schrieb M9.: Personaly i think that hal (or whatever used hwdetection) is able to see what keybord layout is used, so i think that the choice would be obvious, from hardware point of vieuw, and thus could be preselected, without any problem. (except that it has to be implemented?) Too bad you're wrong. Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Kulow schreef: Am Wednesday 12 September 2007 schrieb M9.: Personaly i think that hal (or whatever used hwdetection) is able to see what keybord layout is used, so i think that the choice would be obvious, from hardware point of vieuw, and thus could be preselected, without any problem. (except that it has to be implemented?) Too bad you're wrong. Greetings, Stephan Wrong? You say? At what point? That hardware detection can see what keybord-layout is used? Or that it has to be implemented? Or both? Do not say that it is not possible, the door shuts if you say those things.. ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG6Ee1X5/X5X6LpDgRAng/AKDiew439nHFczT0rF7zRWDrog903ACfeYf8 9yWo4TNVLX0tTl19XW81AvE= =pxjv -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
M9. schrieb: Stephan Kulow schreef: Am Wednesday 12 September 2007 schrieb M9.: Personaly i think that hal (or whatever used hwdetection) is able to see what keybord layout is used, so i think that the choice would be obvious, from hardware point of vieuw, and thus could be preselected, without any problem. (except that it has to be implemented?) Too bad you're wrong. Greetings, Stephan Wrong? You say? At what point? That hardware detection can see what keybord-layout is used? Or that it has to be implemented? Or both? Do not say that it is not possible, the door shuts if you say those things.. ;-) As far as I know there is no way to detect which letters are printed on the keys and which letter is printed on which key. In other words: The hardware is generic and only the labels differ from layout to layout. You might use a webcam to (uuh.. just kidding ;)) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ain Vagula schreef: M9. kirjutas: Stephan Kulow schreef: Am Wednesday 12 September 2007 schrieb M9.: Personaly i think that hal (or whatever used hwdetection) is able to see what keybord layout is used, so i think that the choice would be obvious, from hardware point of vieuw, and thus could be preselected, without any problem. (except that it has to be implemented?) Too bad you're wrong. Greetings, Stephan Wrong? You say? At what point? That hardware detection can see what keybord-layout is used? Or that it has to be implemented? Or both? How can hardware detection see, what is printed (or written with permanent marker) on keys? ;) Detection may see keyboard type (101, 102, 104, 105), but you can configure every type for dozens of layouts, when not more. You can have Swedish keyboard and buy stickers for using every other Northern Europe language layout etc... from every local computer store. ;) ain You are right. This is no reason for not to improve things? Maybe there are not much toughts been this way This does not leave out that the option to choose the keybordlanguage at an earlier stage can be implemented in the software? ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG6E+2X5/X5X6LpDgRAm2tAKCiQiRV4nL0cPM6RxhLtPhnQI4rVQCgnUjt Hp4iB7RMfkk29rSmjDXERo8= =AoTK -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 10:23:05PM +0200, Robin Knapp wrote: M9. schrieb: Stephan Kulow schreef: Am Wednesday 12 September 2007 schrieb M9.: Personaly i think that hal (or whatever used hwdetection) is able to see what keybord layout is used, so i think that the choice would be obvious, from hardware point of vieuw, and thus could be preselected, without any problem. (except that it has to be implemented?) Too bad you're wrong. Greetings, Stephan Wrong? You say? At what point? That hardware detection can see what keybord-layout is used? Or that it has to be implemented? Or both? Do not say that it is not possible, the door shuts if you say those things.. ;-) As far as I know there is no way to detect which letters are printed on the keys and which letter is printed on which key. In other words: The hardware is generic and only the labels differ from layout to layout. Exactly. You can easily see that as I type using the american keyboard layout on my laptop that is covered with Japanese keys. There is no way the hardware can report this, sorry. thanks, greg k-h - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin Knapp schreef: M9. schrieb: Stephan Kulow schreef: Am Wednesday 12 September 2007 schrieb M9.: Personaly i think that hal (or whatever used hwdetection) is able to see what keybord layout is used, so i think that the choice would be obvious, from hardware point of vieuw, and thus could be preselected, without any problem. (except that it has to be implemented?) Too bad you're wrong. Greetings, Stephan Wrong? You say? At what point? That hardware detection can see what keybord-layout is used? Or that it has to be implemented? Or both? Do not say that it is not possible, the door shuts if you say those things.. ;-) As far as I know there is no way to detect which letters are printed on the keys and which letter is printed on which key. In other words: The hardware is generic and only the labels differ from layout to layout. You might use a webcam to (uuh.. just kidding ;)) I mean that is recognised what kind of keybord is used, like logitech cordless... So if the information is in the hardware, (eeprom), it can be read.. 7 button mice are also recognised? If something is realy usefull, or nessesary, it should be made possible, (imho). Not a big thing to add this info in the hardware itself? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG6E68X5/X5X6LpDgRAmokAKDc8YZhK66xc90cRiYt9hIKbPRQHQCfY9pT ixYOnieMKceQDYI7rJDcQhw= =LZ6P -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-09-12 at 22:23 +0200, Robin Knapp wrote: As far as I know there is no way to detect which letters are printed on the keys and which letter is printed on which key. In other words: The hardware is generic and only the labels differ from layout to layout. Yep. Unless the many makers agree on a standard to save and retrieve a language code in the keyboard. No such think exists, AFAIK. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG6FeLtTMYHG2NR9URAtz5AJwNHtvEBNSf8TMjK/LQhaGR+FsOiQCfZKl0 +iXYiEM0stIL0J12fGrXG3s= =SC3e -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Status of language support in openSUSE 10.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-09-12 at 22:40 +0200, M9. wrote: As far as I know there is no way to detect which letters are printed on the keys and which letter is printed on which key. In other words: The hardware is generic and only the labels differ from layout to layout. You might use a webcam to (uuh.. just kidding ;)) I mean that is recognised what kind of keybord is used, like logitech cordless... So if the information is in the hardware, (eeprom), it can be read.. 7 button mice are also recognised? But the layout is nowhere to be read electronically. The electronics inside have no idea of what the keys have printed on their faces. The codes that the keyboard emit to the computer are position based, not letter based. If something is realy usefull, or nessesary, it should be made possible, (imho). Not a big thing to add this info in the hardware itself? More than what you think, those things are really simple electronically. And you would have to convince all manufacturers. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG6H+itTMYHG2NR9URAkoxAJ94e2i+5Pi3YUzRebLclNzCIAmihgCdEP3v YESiHJCi87pVk6XttbwWkVo= =AA4A -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Linux and HiDef TV
Hey Group; I may being say goodbye to my old Hauppauge Model 401 pci buss TV/FM perfectly good card due to the FCC forcing HiDef down our throats. To that is there a good Linux PCI HiDef TV/FM card out there? As I remember at the first of 2009 this switch will take effect. The local FREE TV station will drop analog and go to the forced on the broadcaster and us HD TV. My guess is the US government is looking for fees, and taxes as income. Most people are happy with their old analog TVs Shades of Quad HiFi!! -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : [EMAIL PROTECTED] VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador http://counter.li.org #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] /etc/modprobe.d/unsupported.blacklist
On Wednesday 12 September 2007 12:19, Michal Marek wrote: tail -1 /etc/modprobe.d/unsupported.blacklist Yes. -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
