Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:

> > What Factory are you looking at? I have 2.0.0.10 here
>
> No, you are looking at Firefox ;-)
That's right, yes.

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[opensuse-factory] Radeon Xpress 1250 resolution problems

2008-01-10 Thread Sid Boyce
I have a Acer TravelMate 7520 which has the above video on board. After 
installing 11.0 Alpha0 (since upgraded to latest Factory) and I can only 
get 800x600 with the fbdev driver that was done as part of the install. 
I've since installed ati-driver-installer-8.443.1-x86.x86_64.run, but it 
hangs at the cursor {*} after switching to kdm.


# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2008-01-11T00:27:37+.
#
# Version: 8.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2005
# Contact: SaX-User list 


#
# Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout[all]"
Screen  0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
InputDevice"Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice"Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Mouse[3]" "SendCoreEvents"
Option  "Clone" "off"
Option  "Xinerama" "off"
EndSection

Section "Files"
InputDevices   "/dev/gpmdata"
InputDevices   "/dev/input/mice"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/local"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/URW"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/kwintv"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xtest"
FontPath "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "type1"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "glx"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option  "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard[0]"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "Protocol" "Standard"
Option  "XkbLayout" "gb"
Option  "XkbModel" "microsoftpro"
Option  "XkbRules" "xfree86"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse[1]"
Driver  "synaptics"
Option  "Buttons" "5"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
Option  "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
Option  "InputFashion" "Mouse"
Option  "Name" "Synaptics;Touchpad"
Option  "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
Option  "SHMConfig" "on"
Option  "Vendor" "Sysp"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse[3]"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Buttons" "5"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Name" "ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
Option  "Vendor" "Sysp"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes[0]"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
Option  "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
Option  "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
Option  "DPMS" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]"
Driver  "fglrx"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
Device "aticonfig-Device[0]"
Monitor"aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group"video"
Mode 0660
EndSection

Help appreciated.
Regards
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Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 07:50:46PM +0100, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security 
> updates for Factory?
> I just found an example what shouldn't happen:
> 
> MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's 
> still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
> Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's 
> still old in Factory.
> I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at 
> around the same time.

Yes, this should be the case.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread M9.
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Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security
> updates for Factory?
> I just found an example what shouldn't happen:
> 
> MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's
> still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
> Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's
> still old in Factory.
> I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at
> around the same time.
> 
> Wolfgang

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; nl; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128
SUSE/2.0.0.11-1.7 Firefox/2.0.0.11

is the current factory, if mozilla repo is used.. ;-)
(had to add it to solve problems with factory Thunderbird, which is also
too old: invalid message-filters..)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer

Stephan Kulow wrote:

Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:

Hi,

I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security
updates for Factory?
I just found an example what shouldn't happen:

MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's
still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's
still old in Factory.
I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at
around the same time.



What Factory are you looking at? I have 2.0.0.10 here


No, you are looking at Firefox ;-)
And even that is old, so what.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security
> updates for Factory?
> I just found an example what shouldn't happen:
>
> MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's
> still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
> Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's
> still old in Factory.
> I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at
> around the same time.
>

What Factory are you looking at? I have 2.0.0.10 here

Greetings, Stephan

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[opensuse-factory] security update policy

2008-01-10 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer

Hi,

I'm wondering if there is any internal policy at Novell about security 
updates for Factory?

I just found an example what shouldn't happen:

MozillaThunderbird is on version 2.0.0.9 on 10.3-updates while it's 
still on 2.0.0.6 in Factory.
Since in 10.3 it was a security update I wonder why it can be that it's 
still old in Factory.
I would expect a policy that Factory should get necessary updates at 
around the same time.


Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse-factory] status report distribution week 2

2008-01-10 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Keith Goggin:
> On Thursday 10 January 2008 23:54:25 Stephan Kulow wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Keith Goggin:
> > > The openSUSE 10.3 detailed roadmap made it clear that beta1 would
> > > provide a "Feature and version freeze for the complete distribution
> > > (exception: patchlevel update of leaf packages until Aug 17)" further
> > > beta3 would provide that "only blocker and bug fixes [would be]
> > > allowed" from then on. Yet the Factory News for 10.3 lists a number of
> > > changes post beta3 that do not appear to comply with either of these
> > > limitations.
> >
> > You disagree with making exceptions and want openSUSE to follow a strict
> > rule written 6 months forehand without being flexible?
>
> No, not necessarily, It would depend on the circumstances. For me it would
> be a matter of balancing currency and stability. But change at the last
> moment simply to include the very latest package and in the absence of any
> other extenuating circumstances probably yes.
>
> If I recall correctly you took over after the roadmap was released. Can I
> ask you, did you agreed with its general intention?
Yes, I did. And every single package update was acknowledged by me.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] status report distribution week 2

2008-01-10 Thread Keith Goggin
On Thursday 10 January 2008 23:54:25 Stephan Kulow wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Keith Goggin:
> > The openSUSE 10.3 detailed roadmap made it clear that beta1 would provide
> > a "Feature and version freeze for the complete distribution (exception:
> > patchlevel update of leaf packages until Aug 17)" further beta3 would
> > provide that "only blocker and bug fixes [would be] allowed" from then
> > on. Yet the Factory News for 10.3 lists a number of changes post beta3
> > that do not appear to comply with either of these limitations.
>
> You disagree with making exceptions and want openSUSE to follow a strict
> rule written 6 months forehand without being flexible?

No, not necessarily, It would depend on the circumstances. For me it would be 
a matter of balancing currency and stability. But change at the last moment 
simply to include the very latest package and in the absence of any other 
extenuating circumstances probably yes. 

If I recall correctly you took over after the roadmap was released. Can I ask 
you, did you agreed with its general intention?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] status report distribution week 2

2008-01-10 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Donnerstag 10 Januar 2008 schrieb Keith Goggin:
>
> The openSUSE 10.3 detailed roadmap made it clear that beta1 would provide
> a "Feature and version freeze for the complete distribution (exception:
> patchlevel update of leaf packages until Aug 17)" further beta3 would
> provide that "only blocker and bug fixes [would be] allowed" from then on.
> Yet the Factory News for 10.3 lists a number of changes post beta3 that do
> not appear to comply with either of these limitations.

You disagree with making exceptions and want openSUSE to follow a strict rule
written 6 months forehand without being flexible?

Greetings, Stephan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

2008-01-10 Thread M9.
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Cristian Rodríguez schreef:
> M9. escribió:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
>> Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
> 
> Does it segfaults for you ? I know of it existance due to the pure fact
> that crashes repeatedly and the event is logged... ;P

No, that is not the case here, i just noticed it in my monitor,
(npvieuwer?, vieuws what?) and wanted to know what it was.
When i could not find it, i thought: spyware?, and asked here, that's
all.;-)

Now i know that 'N', stands for 'netscape', and 'p', for plugin, it is
obvious..

But what if NP stood for No Problem vieuwer?
Than it could mean anything, i paranoidly thought.. :-)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

2008-01-10 Thread Cristian Rodríguez
M9. escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
> Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.

Does it segfaults for you ? I know of it existance due to the pure fact
that crashes repeatedly and the event is logged... ;P




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Re: [opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

2008-01-10 Thread M9.
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Dominique Leuenberger schreef:
> 
 On 10-01-2008 at 11:14, "M9." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
>> Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
>> Anybody a clue?
>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> npviewer.bin is the binary of nspluginwrapper. Most likely you're on a 64bit 
> machine with Firefox, 

exactly!

> then the flash plugin will run with the nspluginwrapper.

Ok, thnx that's the info i need.. :-)

> 
> Dominique
> 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

2008-01-10 Thread Dominique Leuenberger


>>> On 10-01-2008 at 11:14, "M9." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
> Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
> Anybody a clue?
> 

Hi,

npviewer.bin is the binary of nspluginwrapper. Most likely you're on a 64bit 
machine with Firefox, then the flash plugin will run with the nspluginwrapper.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] The new Slab for openSUSE 11.0

2008-01-10 Thread CyberOrg
On Jan 10, 2008 2:44 PM, Igor Jagec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I saw you had plans to implement the new Slab for the upcoming openSUSE
> 11.0. When you will push it into Factory? I can't wait to see it and
> test it, so I'm asking :)
>

Have a look at these:

http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Main_menu_bug_week

http://slabme.wordpress.com/

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[opensuse-factory] What is npvieuwer.bin?

2008-01-10 Thread M9.
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Hi,

This '?' eats some resources (not much), but can not be found.
Not by Beagle, and not by kfind.
Anybody a clue?

29799 monkey9   20   0 48832  13m 6184 R  2.0  0.9   0:19.14 npviewer.bin


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[opensuse-factory] The new Slab for openSUSE 11.0

2008-01-10 Thread Igor Jagec
I saw you had plans to implement the new Slab for the upcoming openSUSE
11.0. When you will push it into Factory? I can't wait to see it and
test it, so I'm asking :)

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