[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 Beta5: Delta ISOs available, rest tomorrow
> * The partitioner is broken in some cases Bug 151947. which might result > in: > o mixed up filesystem types - for example one chooses ext2 > and the partition is getting formatted with reiserfs > o creates double or totally obscure entries within the fstab of the > system > o makes inproper proposals for a standard partitioning This presumably won't affect existing partitions that are not formatted? I have /home on a separate partition with an encrypted [twofish256] ext3 FS and /usr/src/packages on a non-encrypted, ext3 formatted partition. I should be okay provided I'm doing an install, not an upgrade, yes? -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] GNOME in 10.1
> General Version Freeze is with Beta1, As it should be, but then the Beta tree should be branched off Factory, and the latest and greatest versions made available in Factory. (Just IMHO, more details in recent blog entries) -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] GNOME in 10.1
> This would be an option - but currently does not happen since > everybody is working on the release tree and therefore nobody puts the > latest and greatest in... Would it be more likely to happen once the Build Service is up and running, and trusted community packagers are able to contribute to Factory? (i.e. we would be able to contribute to Factory while Novell/SUSE staffers work on the Beta/RC tree) -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] GNOME in 10.1
> People who want bleeding edge can use Factory, because Beta is replaced > with a new version after 1-2 weeks. So your Beta installation is not > really bleeding edge. It is on averagae already a week old. Hardly > bleeding edge. ;-) Hear hear. As I said there are more details on what I propose in my blog, but for those who don't want to search through it, see: http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2006/02/25 http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2005/09/09 (See also Pascal's comments at http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2005/09/more-thoughts-on-debian-like-package.html ) -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Trust/rating system WAS: GNOME in 10.1
> Now we are getting in the realm of the still not even defined > trust/rating system. > * Trusted 99% > * Quality 95% > * Downloaded more then 100 times > * Some other attribute 70% > * Some other attribute 50% > Of course you could share these "settings" with other users of the build > service and they could use pascal's stable settings too. Hey, that would be pretty cool, is there any info on when we might see this happen? (Apologies if I've just missed a reference to it) -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NetworkManager?
> As I've just filed bug 155723 - "ndiswrapper module missing" it would be > difficult for NetworkManager to support ndiswrapper. Let's wait for the > ndiswrapper fix first. Please note bug #155285 The package you want is ndiswrapper-kmp- where is the type of kernel you have (smp in my case). And NetworkManager supports whatever network devices the kernel does, so all you need to do is setup the NDIS driver in ndiswrapper and you're away. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NetworkManager?
> I believe this to be true, but I can't get my Linksys (bcm4306 chipset, using > ndiswrapper) to connect using (k)networkmanager - if I choose traditional > method via ifup in yast nic module it connects fine (For testing purposes I'm > using no encryption and dhcp - should be simple enough). http://bugzilla.novell.com then - file it as a bug. Include the contents of /var/log/NetworkManager (and add me as a Cc: entry - I'd be interested to monitor it) -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] NetworkManager?
> > Include the contents of /var/log/NetworkManager > excuse me for butting in, but i'm running 10.0 and do > NOT have this file: NetworkManager or knetworkmanager. > am i missing something? No, you're not, versions of SUSE before 10.1 log NetworkManager information to /var/log/messages -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] suse xp home sp2?
> But there is no need to get emotional here since Novell people are smart > enough to exclude this risk, I am sure. ;-) I'm sure they're also smart enough not to roll over to threats such as this. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome menu editor -- beginner's question, possible bug?
> When I tried to edit my GNOME menu, I found that > the only modification I could make was whether an icon showed in the menu or > not. Even as root. Is this how it is intended, or is this a bug? What did you use to edit the menu? -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome menu editor -- beginner's question, possible bug?
> I right-clicked on the menu icon on the taskbar, and chose the editor. Ah right, that's a seriously simple menu editor. I'm going to package alacarte which gives you a lot more flexibility soon. (Alone with a bunch of other things and updates) -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] dbus-1-gtk
Has dbus-1-gtk been removed from Factory? If so, how come? Reason I ask is for building Tomboy, my package currently has it as a BuildRequires... -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Workrave
> As usual, start with building a package inside of the build service. Let's > see, if it fits into the distro later... > (The grafix looks a bit like a copyright problem ... ) We already have it included - the package is called workrave-gnome rather than workrave for some reason. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: "CLASS-A" scripts
Christoph, an all... > Possible solutions are to extend init-scripts to do the job Not sure I like this idea, after running SuSEconfig (shouldn't that be a symlink to SUSEconfig now? ;)), I like to read through the generated config files in /etc or wherever before running the init script. Now, that may be me being paranoid, but I like to make sure that the config of [insert daemon here] is sane before restarting it > , or to patch the corresponding programs to read /etc/sysconfig directly. This could become a real pain to maintain, not really my problem directly, just thinking about the poor packagers... > * SuSEconfig.sendmail (package: sendmail) >-> do not touch either :) +1 - please don't touch this, it does its job admirably and since it respects manual changes correctly, it allows for people to make their own config changes if they so desire. > * SuSEconfig.susehelp (package: susehelp) >-> cron? + initscript? I think cron for this, there's no inherent reason that I can think of why this shouldn't just be done at 0100. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] GNOME 2.16
> > - Will the 3D features of metacity be activated in the openSUSE > > distribution (as they have to be activated on compile time?) > I don't know. Someone of the Gnome maintainers would need to comment > on this one. At the moment they're disabled explicitly - I suspect they cause significant problems if the COMPOSITE extension is not enabled. You're perfectly welcome to grab the .src.rpm, remove --disable-compositor and rebuild though. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ScreenSavers
Hi all, > [2] http://rss-glx.sourceforge.net/ LenZ has packaged these for 10.1: http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/LenzGr/ -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Compositing manager in Metacity
Ref: http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2006/10/13 A while ago[1] there was some discussion here around the compositing manager in Metacity. I've built metacity packages and libcm which is required for the CM in my BS repo[2]. I don't have a Factory install at the moment so I'd appreciate if some intrepid tester could, well, test them for me. If they work, I'd like to propose the changes for Factory/10.2. [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09/msg00204.html [2] http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/Riggwelter/ -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] tiny-nvidia-installer removed from factory
> I agree, this is their problem, not ours. They know exactly what they > must do to solve this issue, there is nothing that we can do. Greg, are you calling on nVidia to GPL their driver code? If so, have you contacted them directly and is there a formal way in which members of the community can assist? -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Remove zen-installer from gnome-main-menu
> There is a way to change this. In gconf : > /desktop/gnome/applications/main-menu/system-area/package_manager_item I think here's an important point and it affects the Favourite Applications section too. Bizarrely, it never occurred to me that that might be GConf controlled (turns out to be under /desktop/gnome/applications/main-menu/file-area) and I'm an uber-1337 GNOME-master (ahem). It looked like these were Novell's favourite apps. If gnome-main-menu is going to be seriously usable (especially if it's accepted into upstream), there needs to be an obvious way (perhaps a 'Choose Favourite Applications' button next to the 'More Applications' one) of editing this list. The 'More Applications' list is another important thing to look at. At the moment, it launches the application browser which, frankly, is rubbish. It would make a lot more sense if pressing this button simply opened the Applications menu, as a menu. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SPAM: Re: [opensuse-factory] Remove zen-installer from gnome-main-menu
> Instead of right clicking an application and choose "Add to favorites"? That involves opening the application browser, you can't do it currently from the Apps menu. Would help if this could be patched to interoperate better. > I sort of like the way it is now. But I have changed it not to close > the application browser when I open an application (also a gconf key). > That is the way I use it. I don't want that to be the default setting. > I know I work with some stuff in a different way than others. Is that because you'd choose to work like that or because, having been given the browser, you've adapted? What do other people think about this? I just want to be clear, on the whole I think the new main menu is pretty good, it just has some little niggles. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How to name that 'thing' ?
> We cannot change tools developed outside of the opeSUSE community. You mean you don't want a big pile of unmaintainable patches changing every instance of 'channel' to 'repository'? Why-ever not? ;) > > I for myself always use the wording 'repository', which is also very > > reflected on the BuildService (repos.opensuse.org). > I counted your vote ;-) I add mine, +1 for repository. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Evolution on Beta2 build
> Is just me or Evolution is not saving the passwords for IMAP and SMTP > accounts? The options are marked, but everytime I restart evolution, it > asks the passwords again. A slightly unhelpful response perhaps, but it works for me. Anything useful in .xsession-errors? -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://repos.opensuse.org/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE KDE / Gnome Menu
> They seem to vary a lot. Many switch back to classic finding kickoff too > complex. But there seems to be a general agreement among gnome-users that > Kickoff is better than Slab, I've heard it many times now, and I haven't > heard anyone state the opposite. As I commented in my recent blog entries about using KDE for a short time, I think KickOff kicks (sorry, bad pun) slab's butt[1]. Also, slab seems to like my CPU rather too much and is disinclined to allow other processes (apart from it's cousin, application-browser) to use it. [1] http://usr-local-bin.org/index.cgi/2007/01/13 -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://repos.opensuse.org/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome 2.18
> Are there any plans to bring the latest gnome (at this moment it should > be around 2.18 beta2. 2.17.91 started going into Factory late last week, expect it to be hitting the servers real soon. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome 2.18
> OK, nice, but I assumed you wanted to get rid of /opt/gnome before > doing version upgrades? > Right now at least the following packages are still using it: Can you submit these to bugzilla please? -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
> Perhaps this is a complaint, then (like a few others we get around), that not > enough time is left for openSUSE GNOME? Watch this space. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] GNOME?
> First, out of the box the fonts are horrible. Why are they so ugly by > default in GNOME but nice in KDE? It's very easy to set this up in > GNOME but what about newbies and businesses that don't want to spend > the time doing all of this? Have to say that they seem fine for me - can you provide more details maybe? > So my question is why isn't there an option to get > a fully functioning banshee that works (not helix-banshee) like the > amarok version in packman? Also I don't want RealPlayer on my laptop > ... no thanks! Well, you sort of hit the nail on the head there. PackMan. The same issues that mean you need to use a third party build of AmaroK apply to Banshee. Now, what you can do, since you're using PackMan anyway is use their gstreamer010-* packages and the Banshee packages from the Build Service (either the Banshee project or GNOME:Community) and you should be good to go. > Third, beagle integration and SLAB are very bad. Again the beagle > integration in KDE is terrific and kickoff works wonderfully but > beagle in GNOME and SLAB are just horrendous. Why is SLAB such a hog? See my following thoughts on the issue: http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2007/01/13 http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2007/02/20 The new version of slab, in Factory, seems to be less of a hog but it still doesn't have the Beagle integration of KickOff. > I'm just wondering where the love for GNOME is? Yo! Plus the whole GNOME team. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] X without xorg.conf; output hotplug
Before I start mucking about with things, I note that X.Org 7.2.0 supports autoconfiguration meaning that "in most cases"[1], the X server should be able to start without an xorg.conf file. Are the packages in Factory set up to do this and will using the nvidia driver break it? Also, 7.3 offers output hotplug[2], do the packages in xorg73 on the build service support this and does this result in being able to use the external VGA on my notebook as an independent display like I could in other popular OSs?[3] [1] http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/Releases/7.2 [2] http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/Releases/7.3 [3] By which I mean my panels don't span both displays, [XGK]DM appears on the built-in display even when an external monitor is connected but I can use the external display as "monitor 2" for displaying OOo Impress presentations. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] new cd1 gnome
> Is there some group I can join to discuss the new cd1 layout and package > list? http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_Team -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] About dropped packages -- xmms
> What about creating GNOME:GNOME1. I can move there related gtk1, > libgnome1 packages from GNOME:STABLE and GNOME:UNSTABLE and add xmms. +1 for this, I think it's an excellent compromise. -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] couldn't launch gnome-settings-daemon after update to RC1
> /usr/lib/control-center-2.0/gnome-settings-daemon: error while loading > shared libraries: libgstaudio-0.10.so.0: cannot open shared object > file: No such file or directory Do you have gstreamer010-plugins-base installed? Can you please provide the output of ldd /usr/lib/control-center-2.0/gnome-settings-daemon | grep gst ? -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
