Re: [opensuse-factory] Yast Package Patterns / Categories Discussion

2006-09-10 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all !

 I would like to point to current problems with Yast so called
 Patterns - maybe better name would be Categories:

 1.There is a topic named: Primary Functions I think it must be
 renamed to Server Functions.

Might be.

 2. And some additional services should be added there - such as
 telnet-server, SSH server and FreeNX terminal server.

SSH server is part of the base configuration.

I'll think about this a bit more and would like to hear others comment
as well.

 3. Also, I believe that network admins deserve a section dedicated for
 them, starting with several tools such as: Wireshark, Quagga, Nmap and
 please add Webmin too. (currently Webmin is not part of SUSE at

Do you have a complete list?

 all)

Webmin had too many problems in the past and did not really work
within SUSE.

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Yast Package Patterns / Categories Discussion

2006-09-10 Thread Martin Schlander
Søndag 10 september 2006 10:23 skrev Andreas Jaeger:
  3. Also, I believe that network admins deserve a section dedicated for
  them, starting with several tools such as: Wireshark, Quagga, Nmap and
  please add Webmin too. (currently Webmin is not part of SUSE at

 Do you have a complete list?

I like the idea. Don't have a complete list - but arpwatch should be there 
too. Perhaps also knmap.

Martin
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Yast Package Patterns / Categories Discussion

2006-09-10 Thread Alexey Eremenko

Do you have a complete list?


I have no complete list, but I know that Debian also has sink and
mrtg packages.
Those packages are NOT part of SUSE.

mtr is another package that would be good to add to the network
admins category.
Already part of SUSE.

I have no complete list as of yet, because
1) not all packages I use for my job.
2) not all packages are part of SUSE.
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[opensuse-factory] Yast Package Patterns / Categories Discussion

2006-09-09 Thread Alexey Eremenko

Hi all !

I would like to point to current problems with Yast so called
Patterns - maybe better name would be Categories:

1.There is a topic named: Primary Functions I think it must be
renamed to Server Functions.

2. And some additional services should be added there - such as
telnet-server, SSH server and FreeNX terminal server.

3. Also, I believe that network admins deserve a section dedicated for
them, starting with several tools such as: Wireshark, Quagga, Nmap and
please add Webmin too. (currently Webmin is not part of SUSE at
all)

-Any thoughts?
-Alexey. 9.9.2006.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Yast Package Patterns / Categories Discussion

2006-09-09 Thread Rajko M
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 Hi all !
 
 I would like to point to current problems with Yast so called
 Patterns - maybe better name would be Categories:
 
 1.There is a topic named: Primary Functions I think it must be
 renamed to Server Functions.
 
 2. And some additional services should be added there - such as
 telnet-server, SSH server and FreeNX terminal server.
 
 3. Also, I believe that network admins deserve a section dedicated for
 them, starting with several tools such as: Wireshark, Quagga, Nmap and
 please add Webmin too. (currently Webmin is not part of SUSE at
 all)
 
 -Any thoughts?

Many thoughts.
The Patterns will stay named that way, but as it is possible to combine
them with others, there is need to use some names for different levels,
combinations, ways to sort them.

I tried to establish naming starting with hardware categories, with open
status of usage categories, which would be top-down way to define them,
Klaus Kempf proposed opposite way, to start combining packages, which
would be bottom-up way to create patterns. There is nothing wrong with
either way, and actually both combined will give fast results
(bottom-up), that 10.2 needs as it is on schedule, and thorough coverage
(top-down) that need some time to be created.

Primary Functions is good name that should stay at the top of Server,
Engineering Workstation, Office Computer, Entertainment, Administration
Station and other second level patterns. I hope that they will add them
as appropriate definitions come up.

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Regards,
Rajko.
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