Re: [opensuse-factory] improve boot time
Am Samstag 24 Februar 2007 schrieb Collin Marc: hi suse boot time is very slow, about 54 sec on my dual core 4200+, 1 gig of ram. I removed a lot of services. http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/91107/bootchart-png.html this kind of system should booted in less than 30 sec Do you happen to have a bootchart of your system where it doesn't wait 15s for your crypto password? Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] improve boot time
Hello all I installed bootchart on a couple of PCs at home and uploaded the charts Here are the results Tyan.S2466.bootchart.png = Boot time 1:01 T60.t2400_bootchart.png = Boot time 1:13 T40.Pentium_M1500.bootchart.png = Boot time 1:30 The charts are available here: http://perso.orange.fr/j.pearson/Tyan.S2466.bootchart.png http://perso.orange.fr/j.pearson/T60.t2400_bootchart.png http://perso.orange.fr/j.pearson/T40.Pentium_M1500.bootchart.png Have a nice day James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] improve boot time
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:43:33 -0800 (PST) Collin Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi suse boot time is very slow, about 54 sec on my dual core 4200+, 1 gig of ram. I removed a lot of services. For what it is worth I used makeSUSEdvd-0.35-1.noarch.rpm to build a openSUSE-10.3-Alpha1 DVD (composed of CDs 1-5 + openSUSE-10.3-Alpha1-Addon-NonOSS-BiArch) which I installed using VMware.ex.p.build.39849 on openSUSE10.2. I then installed bootchart (same version that I installed on openSUSE 10.2) in openSUSE-10.3-Alpha1 (VMware install) openSUSE.10.3 boots 2:09 (remember this is VMware.e.x.p.build.39849) I uploaded the charted (in case anyone is interested) http://perso.orange.fr/j.pearson/openSUSE.10.3.on.VMware.ex.p.build.39849.bootchart.png Regards James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Volker Kuhlmann schreef: (the kick-off option to boot directly into another os, makes it possible to get coffee, or go to the toilet, without wasting time to make a choice at the boot screen..:-) That's been standard KDE for yonks. When you restart, select the next boot section. Volker ??? I know you sound simple, but i am too stupid to understand what you mean here... Yes I use KDE, and if choosen lilo or grub in the bootmanagers box, (instead of none) will reappear this ability.(if suddenly dissappeared from the menu) (Personal settingslogonscreenshutdown-tab, in rootmodus) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 release 45.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF4fPEX5/X5X6LpDgRAh7XAKDJfusUI2Rtrvmf9QNr7abp98sgWgCg3MaS pkSuizJ6wcrAzZjuWdZRLDs= =EUWo -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] improve boot time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas schreef: Le Samstag, 24. Februar 2007, M9. a écrit : Using a configfile instead of hardware detection might result in a much shorter boottime...(20-25 secs?) Hardwaredetection is needed before installing an OS, an option to detect 'new' HW can be added, so comparing the configfile after the os has been booted is not such a bad idea. Agreed. The way I try to eliminate long boot up times is to actually not power down my computer when I'm done. I have set it to go into stand-by after four hours of inactivity, and that works quite well, even with a desktop pc. Yes this is true, if one uses one OS. When using several, one has to reboot into other OS's, unless one uses an emulator as VMware, one boots inside another OS... Still, these bootings take time... Not waiting, but using your time economicly, during these fases, makes them seem to take less time. But i agree this is just a psychological illusion, and no realtime shorter boottimebut it works all the same... - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 release 45.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF4fWnX5/X5X6LpDgRAuBqAKCounA0SdDZ3fLdQ69CXxH3W9tOwwCfR42b xSih07jwJDkR3MlTQnjY/rc= =eTbx -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Saturday 24 February 2007 00:19, Alexey Eremenko wrote: excuse me, but how do I download bootchart.png ? Look at the bottom of the page for a code that is given as a image. Enter it in the box, and press Enter. Find Download button on the next page and click on it. Select save on the disk. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] improve boot time
Op zaterdag 24 februari 2007 03:43, schreef Collin Marc: for a home user, the login screen should display very early in the boot process. Network could start after this boot screen, same thing for cups. This does not work for home directories that are nfs mounted (like mine). In that case the network needs to be up! -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This might be the time to look in to what Ubuntu has been doing? I seems they are putting in a lot of effort in a new system called upstart. http://www.netsplit.com/blog/articles/2006/08/26/upstart-in-universe http://www.netsplit.com/blog/articles/category/upstart I'm definitely not an expert here, but from what I read it looks interesting. The system is event based and seems to be flexible enough to counter problems like where directories are.(local / remote) Has the openSUSE team been thinking about changing the startup system and working with Ubuntu on this? Regards Birger 2007/2/24, Richard Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Op zaterdag 24 februari 2007 03:43, schreef Collin Marc: for a home user, the login screen should display very early in the boot process. Network could start after this boot screen, same thing for cups. This does not work for home directories that are nfs mounted (like mine). In that case the network needs to be up! -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexey Eremenko schreef: excuse me, but how do I download bootchart.png ? That goes for me too ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 release 45.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF4DemX5/X5X6LpDgRAgVJAJ41iK4lkxjPb3X6qXE2pK2hxLyTvQCg0c99 fUfnwQfiO77tfxmyV2/eNRw= =Fohm -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Bos schreef: Op zaterdag 24 februari 2007 03:43, schreef Collin Marc: for a home user, the login screen should display very early in the boot process. Network could start after this boot screen, same thing for cups. This does not work for home directories that are nfs mounted (like mine). In that case the network needs to be up! I agree that the network should be up as early as possible, the time that takes is allways nessesary, before or after boot screen - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 release 45.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF4DqLX5/X5X6LpDgRAiFPAJ9DeHhUFPsktl/TprUYBrEsy1uehwCgjIZu hbJuHrKbSJ0CevIZrMGIVi8= =MTjC -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Bos schreef: Op zaterdag 24 februari 2007 14:03, schreef M9.: excuse me, but how do I download bootchart.png ? That goes for me too ;-) Alright get it from: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/bootchart-10.3-20070224.png at the same compare it with this one: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/bootchart-20041221.png Thnx, that mail was sent accidentily, so i now compared the PII with the AMD dual core and saw that it differs about a minute... Using a configfile instead of hardware detection might result in a much shorter boottime...(20-25 secs?) Hardwaredetection is needed before installing an OS, an option to detect 'new' HW can be added, so comparing the configfile after the os has been booted is not such a bad idea. If one does not 'wait' until the system has been booted, it doesn't take too long at all... (the kick-off option to boot directly into another os, makes it possible to get coffee, or go to the toilet, without wasting time to make a choice at the boot screen..:-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 release 45.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF4EYzX5/X5X6LpDgRAhwxAJ9N/cp3oFXevN4IPpiCzQfwsNMH5QCfZfK5 v2FAzbXhsw/rH1EfKLYdj/Q= =FLrt -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] improve boot time
(the kick-off option to boot directly into another os, makes it possible to get coffee, or go to the toilet, without wasting time to make a choice at the boot screen..:-) That's been standard KDE for yonks. When you restart, select the next boot section. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] improve boot time
Le Samstag, 24. Februar 2007, M9. a écrit : Using a configfile instead of hardware detection might result in a much shorter boottime...(20-25 secs?) Hardwaredetection is needed before installing an OS, an option to detect 'new' HW can be added, so comparing the configfile after the os has been booted is not such a bad idea. Agreed. The way I try to eliminate long boot up times is to actually not power down my computer when I'm done. I have set it to go into stand-by after four hours of inactivity, and that works quite well, even with a desktop pc. -- Gruß Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] improve boot time
hi suse boot time is very slow, about 54 sec on my dual core 4200+, 1 gig of ram. I removed a lot of services. http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/91107/bootchart-png.html this kind of system should booted in less than 30 sec the optimisation could be change depending of the profile of the machine. home machine server for a home user, the login screen should display very early in the boot process. Network could start after this boot screen, same thing for cups. Instead of use bash, dash could be used. It's take less memory and start program faster. Instead of detecting at everyboot the harddware, suse could save the info and use it for everyboot. A boot option could be added to detect new hardware. Keep service very low should be done. thanks Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] improve boot time
On Friday 23 February 2007 20:43, Collin Marc wrote: hi suse boot time is very slow, about 54 sec on my dual core 4200+, 1 gig of ram. I removed a lot of services. http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/91107/bootchart-png.html this kind of system should booted in less than 30 sec the optimisation could be change depending of the profile of the machine. home machine server for a home user, the login screen should display very early in the boot process. Network could start after this boot screen, same thing for cups. Instead of use bash, dash could be used. It's take less memory and start program faster. Compatibility with existing scripts? Instead of detecting at everyboot the harddware, suse could save the info and use it for everyboot. A boot option could be added to detect new hardware. It should be configurable. Not everyone wants fast boot. Some will prefer to have it as it is now, with more auto detection. Give user option to have automatic recognition or fast boot, or something in between. List of detected hardware and actions associated with, though this is already discussed, to limit installed functionality only to what is supported with detected hardware. Classic example in past was PCMCIA. The X Window system is one of candidates that deserve attention. Keep service very low should be done. thanks ___ _ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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