Re: [opensuse-marketing] Popularity of Linux distributions

2015-04-09 Thread Hans de Raad
Fwiw, I've plugged the openSUSE Conference at about 6 technical/dev meetup 
groups in NL, let's see if that channel works?

All the best!
Hans

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On Thursday, April 09, 2015 03:03:13 PM Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> On 08.04.2015 19:56, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
> > On Wednesday 08 April 2015 17:06:21 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> >> On 08.04.2015 14:32, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
> >>
> >> "Computer enthusiast" is our target market. People who aren't computer
> >> enthusiasts simply don't use our products. Agreed?
> > 
> > Agreed. The one thing, where I would see a need for clarification is 
> > targeting 
> > developers. That's something which comes up quite a bit (although it 
> > doesn't 
> > in the strategy document). But I don't think we reach these people.
> 
> I think we do next to nothing for developers in our 'marketing'. That
> might be the reason we don't reach them ;-)
> 
> Anyway segmenting our target market is something that requires thought,
> research, comparison and in the end benchmarking. This isn't something
> you should do in between a couple of mails.
> 
> We should try to get a couple of people together at oSC15 and see if we
> can make this fly. Who would be interested in creating a marketing plan?
> 
> Henne
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Popularity of Linux distributions

2015-04-09 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hey,

On 08.04.2015 19:56, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 April 2015 17:06:21 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
>> On 08.04.2015 14:32, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
>>
>> "Computer enthusiast" is our target market. People who aren't computer
>> enthusiasts simply don't use our products. Agreed?
> 
> Agreed. The one thing, where I would see a need for clarification is 
> targeting 
> developers. That's something which comes up quite a bit (although it doesn't 
> in the strategy document). But I don't think we reach these people.

I think we do next to nothing for developers in our 'marketing'. That
might be the reason we don't reach them ;-)

Anyway segmenting our target market is something that requires thought,
research, comparison and in the end benchmarking. This isn't something
you should do in between a couple of mails.

We should try to get a couple of people together at oSC15 and see if we
can make this fly. Who would be interested in creating a marketing plan?

Henne

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Popularity of Linux distributions

2015-04-09 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hey,

On 09.04.2015 08:44, Douglas DeMaio wrote:

> Are there any measurement applications we use on our website to assess our
web traffic?

Yes we use Piwik[1] on http://beans.opensuse.org

Henne

[1] http://piwik.org/

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Popularity of Linux distributions

2015-04-09 Thread Henne Vogelsang
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Hey,

On 08.04.2015 18:13, Hans de Raad wrote:

>> "Computer enthusiast" is our target market. People who aren't
>> computer enthusiasts simply don't use our products. Agreed?
> 
> Henne, what would be your suggestion for the segmentation?

I have none as I haven't invested time into this. In general it's
always a good idea to come up with a marketing plan that targets
segments which

* we can identify (demographics, behavior, lifestyle, interests etc.)
* we can measure (size, evolution, responsiveness)
* we can easily reach (which media do they consume, which conferences
  do they visit etc.)
* should not change too quickly

> How would we move ahead and approach these more targeted?

You would think about what you can do for the segment and what they
can do for you. Then, in our "field", you go ahead and try to create
win-win situations.

Henne

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Popularity of Linux distributions

2015-04-09 Thread Alberto Planas
On Thursday, April 09, 2015 08:44:15 AM Douglas DeMaio wrote:

>  Are there any measurement
> applications we use on our website to assess our web traffic?

All that we have is the analysis that I did for oSC13 and the PIWIK 
application that we used for the release.

IMHO we can extend the first analysis to try to figure out more about 
our current user base.

But this is a complex topic.  We have a hidden user base made of old 
users, mostly professionals (teachers, lawyers, medical doctors, etc) 
that usually do not show in the IT statistics like the one referenced in 
this thread.

IMHO Tumbleweed can change that.  This can be a real distribution for 
developers, that can compete with Arch (same blending edge software, 
more QA and with much less maintenance burden), but we are failing 
how to transmit this message.

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