Re: [PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-03-11 Thread Supriya Shekhar Mane
Petr Štetiar  writes:

Dear Maintainers,

> Unless there is a good reason to have this enabled, it should stay
> disabled in official builds and "but Debian has it enabled" is not
> valid argument either.

Now that it's being decided that macro
CONFIG_DEVMEM shall not be enabled by default, why can't bug ID FS#3461
be closed?

Regards,
Supriya Mane


On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 6:24 PM Supriya Shekhar Mane
 wrote:
>
> Hi Petr,
>
> As CONFIG_DEVMEM shall not be enabled by default, then this ticket can be 
> moved to closure.
> Please suggest the closing procedure.
>
> Regards,
> Supriya Mane
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 8:39 PM Petr Štetiar  wrote:
>>
>> Bjørn Mork  [2021-02-14 10:33:15]:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > And it's already enabled for the ipq807x and rockchip targets, so you can't
>> > really claim that it's not available in OpenWrt either.
>>
>> thanks to bringing this to my attention, but I tend to believe, that this is
>> not intentional.
>>
>> > I do hope you don't think OpenWrt is somehow more secure than a current
>> > Debian installation because you arbitrarily remove kernel features like
>> > this one?
>>
>> Unless there is a good reason to have this enabled, it should stay disabled 
>> in
>> official builds and "but Debian has it enabled" is not valid argument either.
>>
>> > The security issues in OpenWrt are caused by almost every process running 
>> > as
>> > root.
>>
>> Thanks to Daniel, this is getting reduced like dnsmasq, logd, ntp, ubus to
>> name a few.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Petr
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[PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-03-11 Thread supriya Mane
Petr Štetiar  writes:

Dear Maintainers,

> Unless there is a good reason to have this enabled, it should stay
> disabled in official builds and "but Debian has it enabled" is not
> valid argument either.

Now that it's being decided that macro
CONFIG_DEVMEM shall not be enabled by default, why can't bug ID FS#3461
be closed? 

Regards, 
Supriya Mane

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Re: [PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-02-14 Thread Petr Štetiar
Bjørn Mork  [2021-02-14 10:33:15]:

Hi,

> And it's already enabled for the ipq807x and rockchip targets, so you can't
> really claim that it's not available in OpenWrt either.

thanks to bringing this to my attention, but I tend to believe, that this is
not intentional.

> I do hope you don't think OpenWrt is somehow more secure than a current
> Debian installation because you arbitrarily remove kernel features like
> this one?

Unless there is a good reason to have this enabled, it should stay disabled in
official builds and "but Debian has it enabled" is not valid argument either.

> The security issues in OpenWrt are caused by almost every process running as
> root.

Thanks to Daniel, this is getting reduced like dnsmasq, logd, ntp, ubus to
name a few.

Cheers,

Petr 

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Re: [PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-02-14 Thread Christian Lamparter

On 14/02/2021 10:33, Bjørn Mork wrote:

Petr Štetiar  writes:


I assume it's for some legacy reasons which don't apply in 2021 to OpenWrt.


Not sure I understand what you mean here.  There was a a request for
this feature, so it obviously applies to OpenWrt.  And it's already
enabled for the ipq807x and rockchip targets, so you can't really claim
that it's not available in OpenWrt either.


Hmm, I think I was bitten by this before... In my case setting a
CONFIG_DEVMEM=y in any of the targets-config like this did not what
its supposed to do.

This was because this setting gets "forced" by the CONFIG KERNEL_DEVMEM in our
own config/Config-kernel.in. So we might as well remove the CONFIG_DEVMEM
from all subtarget configuration. (I think the target/generic/config-X can
stay or there will be edit-wars).

(My best guess how these settings end up in the targets config, is that these
settings get there by accident when the configurations are refreshed upon a
kernel-bump.)

Cheers,
Christian




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Re: [PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-02-14 Thread Bjørn Mork
Petr Štetiar  writes:

> I assume it's for some legacy reasons which don't apply in 2021 to OpenWrt.

Not sure I understand what you mean here.  There was a a request for
this feature, so it obviously applies to OpenWrt.  And it's already
enabled for the ipq807x and rockchip targets, so you can't really claim
that it's not available in OpenWrt either.

I do hope you don't think OpenWrt is somehow more secure than a current
Debian installation because you arbitrarily remove kernel features like
this one?

/dev/mem doesn't change anything security-wise.  The security issues in
OpenWrt are caused by almost every process running as root.  This is why
every process has access to the hardware. It has nothing to do with the
availability of kernel interfaces.  A rogue application can just load
the kernel code it needs anyway.


Bjørn

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Re: [PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-02-14 Thread Petr Štetiar
Tomasz Maciej Nowak  [2021-02-09 18:02:13]:

Hi,

> Why do You need it enabled by default for OpenWrt provided images at
> https://openwrt.org/downloads?

answer to this question should be addressed in v2 of this patch. FYI it's very
unlikely, that we would enable this feature in default images.

Cheers,

Petr

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Re: [PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-02-14 Thread Petr Štetiar
Bjørn Mork  [2021-02-10 12:33:44]:

Hi,

> DEVMEM is a standard feature, defaulting to Y in the kernel config:

but it does not mean, that it's something you would like to have enabled by
default.

> and it's enabled in other distro kernels, like Debian (stable and
> unstable) and RHEL (7 and 8).

I assume it's for some legacy reasons which don't apply in 2021 to OpenWrt.

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Re: [PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-02-10 Thread Bjørn Mork
Alberto Bursi  writes:

> On 09/02/21 17:46, Supriya Mane wrote:
>> Setting 'CONFIG_DEVMEM=y' provides access to /dev/mem.
>> Fixes "cannot access '/dev/mem' : No such file or directory"
>> Signed-off-by: Supriya Mane 
>> ---
>>   target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4 | 1 +
>>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>> diff --git a/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
>> b/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
>> index f09deca5b0..a483d6ea2a 100644
>> --- a/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
>> +++ b/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
>> @@ -115,6 +115,7 @@ CONFIG_CRYPTO_SIMD=y
>>   # CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH_X86_64_3WAY is not set
>>   CONFIG_CRYPTO_XTS=y
>>   # CONFIG_DEBUG_HOTPLUG_CPU0 is not set
>> +CONFIG_DEVMEM=y
>>   CONFIG_DMA_ACPI=y
>>   CONFIG_DMA_SHARED_BUFFER=y
>>   # CONFIG_DPTF_POWER is not set
>> 
>
> It's disabled by default because it is a debugging feature that is not
> terribly secure (lets anyone see the RAM contents, to an extent).
>
> I'm not sure this should be enabled for all x86_64 target like that.

Sure you aren't thinking about DEVKMEM now?

DEVMEM is a standard feature, defaulting to Y in the kernel config:

config DEVMEM
bool "/dev/mem virtual device support"
default y
help
  Say Y here if you want to support the /dev/mem device.
  The /dev/mem device is used to access areas of physical
  memory.
  When in doubt, say "Y".



and it's enabled in other distro kernels, like Debian (stable and
unstable) and RHEL (7 and 8).



Bjørn

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Re: [PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-02-09 Thread Alberto Bursi




On 09/02/21 17:46, Supriya Mane wrote:

Setting 'CONFIG_DEVMEM=y' provides access to /dev/mem.
Fixes "cannot access '/dev/mem' : No such file or directory"

Signed-off-by: Supriya Mane 
---
  target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4 | 1 +
  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)

diff --git a/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4 b/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
index f09deca5b0..a483d6ea2a 100644
--- a/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
+++ b/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
@@ -115,6 +115,7 @@ CONFIG_CRYPTO_SIMD=y
  # CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH_X86_64_3WAY is not set
  CONFIG_CRYPTO_XTS=y
  # CONFIG_DEBUG_HOTPLUG_CPU0 is not set
+CONFIG_DEVMEM=y
  CONFIG_DMA_ACPI=y
  CONFIG_DMA_SHARED_BUFFER=y
  # CONFIG_DPTF_POWER is not set



It's disabled by default because it is a debugging feature that is not 
terribly secure (lets anyone see the RAM contents, to an extent).


I'm not sure this should be enabled for all x86_64 target like that.

-Alberto

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Re: [PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-02-09 Thread Tomasz Maciej Nowak
Hi.

W dniu 09.02.2021 o 17:46, Supriya Mane pisze:
> Setting 'CONFIG_DEVMEM=y' provides access to /dev/mem.
> Fixes "cannot access '/dev/mem' : No such file or directory"
> 
> Signed-off-by: Supriya Mane 
> ---
>  target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4 | 1 +
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> 
> diff --git a/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4 b/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
> index f09deca5b0..a483d6ea2a 100644
> --- a/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
> +++ b/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
> @@ -115,6 +115,7 @@ CONFIG_CRYPTO_SIMD=y
>  # CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH_X86_64_3WAY is not set
>  CONFIG_CRYPTO_XTS=y
>  # CONFIG_DEBUG_HOTPLUG_CPU0 is not set
> +CONFIG_DEVMEM=y
>  CONFIG_DMA_ACPI=y
>  CONFIG_DMA_SHARED_BUFFER=y
>  # CONFIG_DPTF_POWER is not set
> 

Normally for Your own compiled images You set it in:
Global build settings > Kernel build options > /dev/mem virtual device support

Why do You need it enabled by default for OpenWrt provided images at 
https://openwrt.org/downloads?

Regards

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[PATCH] x86/64: Add CONFIG_DEVMEM=y for targets/x86/64

2021-02-09 Thread Supriya Mane
Setting 'CONFIG_DEVMEM=y' provides access to /dev/mem.
Fixes "cannot access '/dev/mem' : No such file or directory"

Signed-off-by: Supriya Mane 
---
 target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4 | 1 +
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)

diff --git a/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4 b/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
index f09deca5b0..a483d6ea2a 100644
--- a/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
+++ b/target/linux/x86/64/config-5.4
@@ -115,6 +115,7 @@ CONFIG_CRYPTO_SIMD=y
 # CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH_X86_64_3WAY is not set
 CONFIG_CRYPTO_XTS=y
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_HOTPLUG_CPU0 is not set
+CONFIG_DEVMEM=y
 CONFIG_DMA_ACPI=y
 CONFIG_DMA_SHARED_BUFFER=y
 # CONFIG_DPTF_POWER is not set
-- 
2.17.1


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