Revealing tor hidden services by their clock skew

2006-09-05 Thread Brian C
http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/09/04/hot-or-not-revealing-hidden-services-by-their-clock-skew/

This is on the front page of reddit.com right now, so it should get some
attention.

Murdoch's paper is here:

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/papers/ccs06hotornot.pdf



Re: being a middleman

2006-09-05 Thread Pascal Levasseur
Hello Roger,
 
 I've removed all trace of the word 'middleman' from the code, the docs,
 and the sample torrc file. So the only place you'll be encountering
 it is somebody else's docs or an old torrc file if you're using an old
 0.1.0.x one. Are there places that I missed?
 

By the way, the wiki has a reference to middleman

http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#RunAServerBut

If you want to avoid most if not all abuse potential, set it to reject
*:*. This is called being a middleman node

May I take the liberty to remove  This is called being a middleman
node from the wiki ?

Pascal



Re: being a middleman

2006-09-05 Thread thalunil
Pascal Levasseur wrote:

 May I take the liberty to remove  This is called being a middleman
 node from the wiki ?


Hi Pascal,


i fixed it.



Thal


Re: TOR Directory file

2006-09-05 Thread Joe Clark
First of all, thanks !You're saying tonot rely on the cached-routers file (name and format), so what can I rely on as a list of all routers?this:  http://serifos.eecs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/exit.pl?textonly=1%22or maybe this: (notice that this is by the old format)  http://moria.mit.edu:9031/tor/  ?Thanks!,  Joe.  Nick Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 12:19:27AM -0700, Joe Clark wrote: Hi,  I don't want to be rude, but please answer my little question.   Joe
 Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Dear TOR users:  I got a pretty newbie question to you guys: From where does TOR client take its routers' database ?The directory protocol is described athttp://tor.eff.org/svn/trunk/doc/dir-spec.txt In v-0.1.0.17 it was a file called "cached-directory". I upgraded to v-0.1.1.23 and I noticed some changes in the filename ("cached-routers" ?!) and in the file format.Indeed you did. The old protocol is athttp://tor.eff.org/svn/trunk/doc/dir-spec-v0.txtThe storage format is undocumented, and intentionally so: we maychange it without warning, so please don't rely on it. But basically,the old format was just to store a raw directory to disk. The newformat is to store a network status document for each authority in afile named cached-status/ (with the authority'sfingerprint given in hex); and to store the
 router descriptorsconcatenated in cached-routers and cached-routers.new. The latter isappend-only, and used as a journal; periodically, we prune out unusedrouter descriptors and regenerate cached-routers.The source (in routerlist.c) should have full information.yrs,-- Nick Mathewson 
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Re: TOR Directory file

2006-09-05 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:12:58AM -0700, Joe Clark wrote:
 First of all, thanks !

   You're saying to not rely on the cached-routers file (name and
  format), so what can I rely on as a list of all routers?

You can rely on cached-routers working for now,  but we do not promise
never to change it.  Tor is under active development.

(Similarly, we do not promise permanent backward compatibility with
respect to any current protocol.  We try to keep stable series working
for at least a year (when we can), and we try not to change formats
and protocols gratuitously, but that's about it.)

   this:
   http://serifos.eecs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/exit.pl?textonly=1%22

I would suggest not if you require information to be 100% accurate and
up-to-date; this site tends not to track updates to the directory
format very quickly.

   or maybe this: (notice that this is by the old format)
   http://moria.mit.edu:9031/tor/

If you want to downlaod the info yourself, you should check out the
document I suggested you read.  It's here:

 The directory protocol is described at
 http://tor.eff.org/svn/trunk/doc/dir-spec.txt

yrs,
-- 
Nick Mathewson


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Re: Earthlink's broken DNS affecting Tor nodes?

2006-09-05 Thread Matt Ghali

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, numE wrote:


Maybe http://www.orsn.net/ would be even better than opendns.
OpenDns is commercial... orsn not.


IIRC, OpenDNS does the same sort of Lie on NXDOMAIN foolishness 
that Earthlink has started doing, which is what the original poster 
was trying to escape.


Doesn't ORSN use an alternate-root scheme where there's no real 
guarantee you're getting the same answers anyone using the one true 
root would get? I might be conflating my alternate-root quacks here, 
but I seem to recall their root delegations differ from the real 
ones.


matto



Andrew Del Vecchio schrieb:

Alternatively, you can use OpenDNS's servers. See www.opendns.com.
OpenDNS is very easy (just use their IP addresses), and quite fast. On
the other hand, caching can be fast too, and give you slightly more
security, as you'll be sending less requests, thus making traffic
analysis a tad more labor intensive. Would you concur, Matt?

~Andrew



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Re: Earthlink's broken DNS affecting Tor nodes?

2006-09-05 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Matt Ghali wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, numE wrote:
 
 Maybe http://www.orsn.net/ would be even better than opendns.
 OpenDns is commercial... orsn not.
 
 IIRC, OpenDNS does the same sort of Lie on NXDOMAIN foolishness that
 Earthlink has started doing, which is what the original poster was
 trying to escape.
 
 Doesn't ORSN use an alternate-root scheme where there's no real
 guarantee you're getting the same answers anyone using the one true root
 would get? I might be conflating my alternate-root quacks here, but I
 seem to recall their root delegations differ from the real ones.
 

(Disclaimer, I work for OpenDNS.)

If you're using OpenDNS, you disable all that stuff when you visit the
preference page:
http://www.opendns.com/prefs/

If you do that you'll get zero unexpected recursive dns behavior.

Regards,
Jacob Appelbaum


Re: Earthlink's broken DNS affecting Tor nodes?

2006-09-05 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006, Matt Ghali wrote:

 Doesn't ORSN use an alternate-root scheme where there's no real 
 guarantee you're getting the same answers anyone using the one true 
 root would get?

That's the point of ORSN.  Should the real US-controlled root go nuts
we still have some place that works.

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Tor network signature detection

2006-09-05 Thread Arrakistor
Nick, Roger, et al

Does the ISP/network administrator know if a client is connected to the tor 
network or is
the connection disguised? Essentially, does running tor create
signatures?

Regards,
 Arrakistor



Re: Earthlink's broken DNS affecting Tor nodes?

2006-09-05 Thread Andrew Del Vecchio
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Does anyone else here use Ubuntu? I set OpenDNS as my domain
resolvers, but DHCP later erased these settings. I should be able to
have static DNS servers while using DHCP for my local IP address right?

I tried adding the info to my dhcpclient.conf file, as per OpenDNS's
instructions, but the settings won't take :(

Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
 Matt Ghali wrote:

 On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, numE wrote:


 Maybe http://www.orsn.net/ would be even better than opendns.
 OpenDns is commercial... orsn not.

 IIRC, OpenDNS does the same sort of Lie on NXDOMAIN foolishness
 that Earthlink has started doing, which is what the original
 poster was trying to escape.

 Doesn't ORSN use an alternate-root scheme where there's no real
 guarantee you're getting the same answers anyone using the one
 true root would get? I might be conflating my alternate-root
 quacks here, but I seem to recall their root delegations differ
 from the real ones.



 (Disclaimer, I work for OpenDNS.)

 If you're using OpenDNS, you disable all that stuff when you visit
 the preference page: http://www.opendns.com/prefs/

 If you do that you'll get zero unexpected recursive dns behavior.

 Regards, Jacob Appelbaum





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