Re: [warn] Error binding network socket: Address already in use

2009-11-10 Thread Drake Wilson
Quoth Olaf Selke olaf.se...@blutmagie.de, on 2009-11-10 07:54:57 +0100:
  It sounds like you're running
  out of outgoing ports to use for connections.
 
 yes, but only about 27000 tcp connections have been open

That's getting close to the limit.  Usually only high-numbered ports
are used for outgoing connections.  Since you mention you are running
Linux, you may wish to check /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range
and possibly widen the range to see whether that helps.  E.g., the
default range on my system appears to be 32768--61000, which allows
at most 28232 outgoing TCP connections that are not bound to specific
ports, and fewer if some of the ports are stuck in wait states.

/proc settings (as you are probably aware) are usually changed using
echo and shell redirection, so you would use

  # echo 24576 65000  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range

or a similar command.

 Olaf

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Re: [warn] Error binding network socket: Address already in use

2009-11-10 Thread Olaf Selke
Drake Wilson wrote:
 Quoth Olaf Selke olaf.se...@blutmagie.de, on 2009-11-10 07:54:57 +0100:
 It sounds like you're running
 out of outgoing ports to use for connections.
 yes, but only about 27000 tcp connections have been open
 
 That's getting close to the limit.  Usually only high-numbered ports
 are used for outgoing connections.  Since you mention you are running
 Linux, you may wish to check /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range
 and possibly widen the range to see whether that helps.  E.g., the
 default range on my system appears to be 32768--61000, which allows
 at most 28232 outgoing TCP connections that are not bound to specific
 ports, and fewer if some of the ports are stuck in wait states.
 
 /proc settings (as you are probably aware) are usually changed using
 echo and shell redirection, so you would use
 
   # echo 24576 65000  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range

thx, it appears you are right:

anonymizer2:~# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range
32768   61000
anonymizer2:~# echo 24576 65000  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range
anonymizer2:~# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range
24576   65000

Olaf
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Re: [warn] Error binding network socket: Address already in use

2009-11-10 Thread Olaf Selke
Drake Wilson wrote:
 
   # echo 24576 65000  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range

one question again: why don't set it to 1024 65535? Is there any good
reason to exclude a certain port range besides the ports below 1024 from
being chosen as local port?

Olaf
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Re: [warn] Error binding network socket: Address already in use

2009-11-10 Thread Drake Wilson
Quoth Olaf Selke olaf.se...@blutmagie.de, on 2009-11-10 16:22:34 +0100:
 Drake Wilson wrote:
  
# echo 24576 65000  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_local_port_range
 
 one question again: why don't set it to 1024 65535? Is there any good
 reason to exclude a certain port range besides the ports below 1024 from
 being chosen as local port?

That depends on your system.  It's possible there is no reason not to
do that on your system.  The main reason would be if you have other
processes that may need to run services on predefined ports in that
range.  E.g., if your machine is dedicated to Tor, then you may not
experience any problems with a setting of 1024--65535 for dynamic port
allocations.  You can check with netstat or similar, then experiment
as desired.

The IANA theoretically registers up to port 49151, with 0--1023 being
the Well Known ports and 1024--49151 being the Registered Ports; in
practice this is probably too conservative.

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Re: Tor WIN in germany :)

2009-11-10 Thread Brian Mearns
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek
juliusz.chroboc...@pps.jussieu.fr wrote:
 And here is the german press release:

 http://klangbuero.net/2009/10/29/freispruch-fur-tor/

 Please publish an English translation, so it gets Googlified.

                                        Juliusz
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Yes, I'd really like to see an English version if possible.

Congratulations!
-Brian


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Re: Kaspersky wants to make Tor illegal and supports a globalized policed internet.

2009-11-10 Thread Brian Mearns
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:04 PM, John Case c...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:

 On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Jacob Todd wrote:
[clip]
 I'd like to change the design of the Internet by introducing
 regulation--Internet passports, Internet police and international
 agreement--about following Internet standards. And if some countries
 don't agree with or don't pay attention to the agreement, just cut
 them off.


 Let's say this is successful ... it will simply lead to a parallel, mostly
 wireless network that is even more decentralized than the current Internet.
  How much does it cost these days to link 10mbps across 10 km ?

 In a few years, with n hardware flooding the market, how much will it cost
 to link 100mbps across 50 km ?
[clip]

Agreed. You would think a man at the head of an Internet Security firm
would have a better understand of Internet vs. internet. His comment
about the Internet being designed illustrates to me that he doesn't
actually know much about the history of networking, and apparently
doesn't even have a good understanding of how ad-hoc these things
really are.

Anyway, like I said, I totally agree with your point. If The Internet
is restricted in such ridiculous ways as Kaspersky suggests, then
other internets will just spring up to replace it. Maybe to this end
we should all make an effort to establish de-centralized networks in
our own worlds: connect a few neighbors together with CAT5, or hell,
even RS232, and you've got a network. Connect one of these to the
neighbors on the next block, and you've got an internet. How about
Sneakernets? Onion routing by snail-mail and courier? Packet
transmission by encrypted email? The Internet grew out of nothing,
once, and that when network theory was only in its infancy. There's no
reason we couldn't go it again.

-Brian

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Re: Tor WIN in germany :)

2009-11-10 Thread Carolyn Anhalt
Today I fought with my lawyer for the acquittal of Tor:) Here is our press
release:

Jena, 29.10.2009

Today, the Local Court of Jena, Hall 1, held a criminal trial against the
domain owner of wikileaks.de, Theodore Reppe. The criminal charges were
computer fraud - Reppe was accused of posting false information on the
Internet and thereby causing damages amounting to 38.55 euros. The only
evidence: An IP address that led to Reppe's customer data. After the opening
statement, defense attorney Norman Lenz read out comments and other
statements from Reppe that the court and prosecutor had to see that Reppe
was not the culprit. In fact, it turned out that the Tor server operated by
Reppe had been misused by someone else.

The question ensued between the court and defense as to whether Reppe was
still guilty since he had allowed the transfer of the fraudulent data. The
court offered the popular conservative view that projects such as Tor are
more harmful than useful, stating claims such as, There's nothing to fear
if you have nothing to hide! and This server could also allow anonymous
distribution of child pornography! The defense countered: These sorts of
statements could also justify the elimination of private mail and personal
correspondence. In the end, the presumption of innocence was upheld:
Reppe's Tor server only anonymizes and encrypts activity, it is not itself
the source of illegal activities, and thus the court had to acquit him.

Please send questions to t...@morphium.info and they will be promptly
answered.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Brian Mearns bmea...@ieee.org wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek
 juliusz.chroboc...@pps.jussieu.fr wrote:
  And here is the german press release:
 
  http://klangbuero.net/2009/10/29/freispruch-fur-tor/
 
  Please publish an English translation, so it gets Googlified.
 
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 Yes, I'd really like to see an English version if possible.

 Congratulations!
 -Brian


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Re: Tor WIN in germany :)

2009-11-10 Thread Brian Mearns
Thanks!

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Carolyn Anhalt caro...@anhalt.org wrote:
 Today I fought with my lawyer for the acquittal of Tor:) Here is our press
 release:

 Jena, 29.10.2009

 Today, the Local Court of Jena, Hall 1, held a criminal trial against the
 domain owner of wikileaks.de, Theodore Reppe. The criminal charges were
 computer fraud - Reppe was accused of posting false information on the
 Internet and thereby causing damages amounting to 38.55 euros. The only
 evidence: An IP address that led to Reppe's customer data. After the opening
 statement, defense attorney Norman Lenz read out comments and other
 statements from Reppe that the court and prosecutor had to see that Reppe
 was not the culprit. In fact, it turned out that the Tor server operated by
 Reppe had been misused by someone else.

 The question ensued between the court and defense as to whether Reppe was
 still guilty since he had allowed the transfer of the fraudulent data. The
 court offered the popular conservative view that projects such as Tor are
 more harmful than useful, stating claims such as, There's nothing to fear
 if you have nothing to hide! and This server could also allow anonymous
 distribution of child pornography! The defense countered: These sorts of
 statements could also justify the elimination of private mail and personal
 correspondence. In the end, the presumption of innocence was upheld:
 Reppe's Tor server only anonymizes and encrypts activity, it is not itself
 the source of illegal activities, and thus the court had to acquit him.

 Please send questions to t...@morphium.info and they will be promptly
 answered.

 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Brian Mearns bmea...@ieee.org wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek
 juliusz.chroboc...@pps.jussieu.fr wrote:
  And here is the german press release:
 
  http://klangbuero.net/2009/10/29/freispruch-fur-tor/
 
  Please publish an English translation, so it gets Googlified.
 
                                         Juliusz
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 Yes, I'd really like to see an English version if possible.

 Congratulations!
 -Brian


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Re: Kaspersky wants to make Tor illegal and supports a globalized policed internet.

2009-11-10 Thread krishna e bera
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:29:26PM -0500, Brian Mearns wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:04 PM, John Case c...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
  On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Jacob Todd wrote:
 [clip]
  I'd like to change the design of the Internet by introducing
  regulation--Internet passports, Internet police and international
  agreement--about following Internet standards. And if some countries
  don't agree with or don't pay attention to the agreement, just cut
  them off.
 
 
  Let's say this is successful ... it will simply lead to a parallel, mostly
  wireless network that is even more decentralized than the current Internet.
   How much does it cost these days to link 10mbps across 10 km ?
 
  In a few years, with n hardware flooding the market, how much will it cost
  to link 100mbps across 50 km ?
 [clip]
 
 Agreed. You would think a man at the head of an Internet Security firm
 would have a better understand of Internet vs. internet. His comment
 about the Internet being designed illustrates to me that he doesn't
 actually know much about the history of networking, and apparently
 doesn't even have a good understanding of how ad-hoc these things
 really are.
 
 Anyway, like I said, I totally agree with your point. If The Internet
 is restricted in such ridiculous ways as Kaspersky suggests, then
 other internets will just spring up to replace it. Maybe to this end
 we should all make an effort to establish de-centralized networks in
 our own worlds: connect a few neighbors together with CAT5, or hell,
 even RS232, and you've got a network. Connect one of these to the
 neighbors on the next block, and you've got an internet. How about
 Sneakernets? Onion routing by snail-mail and courier? Packet
 transmission by encrypted email? The Internet grew out of nothing,
 once, and that when network theory was only in its infancy. There's no
 reason we couldn't go it again.
 
 -Brian

I havent read Kaspersky's report but the general argument is supportable.
The hardware on which the high speed internet runs is increasingly concentrated
under fewer owners.  How many internet access providers exist where you live
and do they significantly differ in Terms of Service, i.e. friendly to privacy?
Google alone now carries from 6 to 10% of all the traffic.
viz. http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/10/youtube-bandwidth/

The laws governing (or attempting to) what is allowed on the internet
are also swinging in favour of more control and traceability.  
Indeed, if the ACTA currently being negotiated is implemented,
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/leaked-acta-internet-provisions-three-strikes-and-
Tor could well become illegal, (a) because it can be used to circumvent
restriction of copyrighted content by country and (b) because you can use it
to hide identity while filesharing (even though we discourage that).
EFF and friends succeeded in repealing some PATRIOT act insanity,
but national insecurity and corporate greed continue to infect
all areas of law and social reality including the internet.

Anyway, there is a volunteer project which may help Tor work 
on the kind of grassroots internet you describe:
https://www.torproject.org/volunteer.html.en
Simulator for slow Internet connections 
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Re: Kaspersky wants to make Tor illegal and supports a globalized policed internet.

2009-11-10 Thread Sharif Olorin
Bids like Kaspersky's are exceptionally unlikely to be successful. The
people who keep the Internet running are, for the most part, the
people who are most opposed to this kind of control.

 If The Internet
 is restricted in such ridiculous ways as Kaspersky suggests, then
 other internets will just spring up to replace it.

For those who don't know, such a project already exists, run by
Freaknet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsukuku

Sharif Olorin

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Re: Kaspersky wants to make Tor illegal and supports a globalized policed internet.

2009-11-10 Thread John Case


On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Sharif Olorin wrote:


Bids like Kaspersky's are exceptionally unlikely to be successful. The
people who keep the Internet running are, for the most part, the
people who are most opposed to this kind of control.


If The Internet
is restricted in such ridiculous ways as Kaspersky suggests, then
other internets will just spring up to replace it.


For those who don't know, such a project already exists, run by
Freaknet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsukuku



Netsukuku is very interesting.

It's also very difficult to tell whether it is gibberish or not:

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/10/6/101832/209

I want very much for it to be real.
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