Tor network connections constantly building / failing

2010-10-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
 Recently noticed Tor being slower than usual  network map shows MANY 
new connections building, then failing VERY quickly. (within a sec or 
so).  Does this constantly - one connection after another.  Using 
Vidalia 0.2.1.26-0.2.9;  Torbutton 1.2.5.


Sometimes there are at least 3 connections open - sometimes not.  1st 
time I've seen this.


Did close Vidalia / Tor, Polipo, Firefox 3.6.10  Torbutton, the restart 
- couple of times - no change.
During the connection, for brief times, D/L speeds may get up to 
normal for me - but not for long.


Anyone noticed this or have suggestions?  Thanks.
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Re: Tor network connections constantly building / failing

2010-10-13 Thread Jon
That is normal right after you start Tor up. What your seeing is Tor
is still building circuits. After a short period, it does level out,
then you should only be showing several circuits. Your dl/up speeds
will vary during this and will level off shortly after.

After your connection has been up for a while ie: several days, your
speeds will pick up as the other nodes get to know your node.
Everything is normal of what your seeing.  :)

Thanks for running Tor.

Jon

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote:
  Recently noticed Tor being slower than usual  network map shows MANY new
 connections building, then failing VERY quickly. (within a sec or so).  Does
 this constantly - one connection after another.  Using Vidalia
 0.2.1.26-0.2.9;  Torbutton 1.2.5.

 Sometimes there are at least 3 connections open - sometimes not.  1st time
 I've seen this.

 Did close Vidalia / Tor, Polipo, Firefox 3.6.10  Torbutton, the restart -
 couple of times - no change.
 During the connection, for brief times, D/L speeds may get up to normal
 for me - but not for long.

 Anyone noticed this or have suggestions?  Thanks.
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Full bandwidth is not used.

2010-10-13 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear Tor folks,


I am still seeing the same problem [1]. In April it used the whole limit
of 1 TB and hibernated after the limit was reached, but afterward it
only came back to around 100 GB per month.

Fast IT is not limiting the bandwidth in any way. I tested that. CPU and
memory are not utilized completely either.

Here is the output from arm.

arm - anonymisierungsdienst (Linux...) Tor 0.2.1.26 (recommended)
anonymisierungsdien - 0.0.0.0:9090, Dir Port: 80, Control Port (open): 
9051
cpu: 0.5%mem: 92 MB (13.0%)   pid: 1186uptime: 14-15:11:11
fingerprint: B3EC1BF5D7F7D724BA634D91BE5D22D2D7A70160
flags: Exit, Fast, Guard, Named, Running, Stable, Valid

I only have

AccountingMax 500 GB

set in `/etc/tor/torrc`.

So it must be a Tor problem. As you can see from the graphs the
bandwidth usage goes up and down quite often. What might be the reason?
Besides it is still below the available 100 Mbit/s.

So does rebalancing still have problems as indicated in Andrew’s answer
[3]?


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2010/msg00010.html
[2] http://www.atagar.com/arm/
[3] http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Apr-2010/msg00140.html


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Re: Full bandwidth is not used.

2010-10-13 Thread Jon
Not sure, but mine goes up and down all the time. I am not on a
allocation or accounting like you, but I check several times a day
generally, but at least once a day the bandwidth usage is different
than before.

It may still be re-balancing, but I also notice that the mode nodes
that are running, the lower usage of bandwidth. The less nodes
running, my bandwidth has more usage. Just a thought.

Jon

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Paul Menzel
paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
 Dear Tor folks,


 I am still seeing the same problem [1]. In April it used the whole limit
 of 1 TB and hibernated after the limit was reached, but afterward it
 only came back to around 100 GB per month.

 Fast IT is not limiting the bandwidth in any way. I tested that. CPU and
 memory are not utilized completely either.

 Here is the output from arm.

        arm - anonymisierungsdienst (Linux...)     Tor 0.2.1.26 (recommended)
        anonymisierungsdien - 0.0.0.0:9090, Dir Port: 80, Control Port (open): 
 9051
        cpu: 0.5%    mem: 92 MB (13.0%)   pid: 1186    uptime: 14-15:11:11
        fingerprint: B3EC1BF5D7F7D724BA634D91BE5D22D2D7A70160
        flags: Exit, Fast, Guard, Named, Running, Stable, Valid

 I only have

        AccountingMax 500 GB

 set in `/etc/tor/torrc`.

 So it must be a Tor problem. As you can see from the graphs the
 bandwidth usage goes up and down quite often. What might be the reason?
 Besides it is still below the available 100 Mbit/s.

 So does rebalancing still have problems as indicated in Andrew’s answer
 [3]?


 Thanks,

 Paul


 [1] http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2010/msg00010.html
 [2] http://www.atagar.com/arm/
 [3] http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Apr-2010/msg00140.html

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Excessive scrubs

2010-10-13 Thread Jon
I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put in
its place?

Thanks,

Jon
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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-13 Thread Jon
I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
solution was:

Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
the domain in question.

SafeLogging 0

of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
remove it self at some point.

As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
placed it before it got removed.

Jon

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
 amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
 scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
 does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

 Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put in
 its place?

 Thanks,

 Jon

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Re: Tor network connections constantly building / failing

2010-10-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
 What I'm seeing is completely ABnormal from what I've seen for 1 - 2 
yrs, over several Tor / Vidalia versions.  I often looked at network 
maps - was never like this.


1)  What I described about connections constantly (RAPID fire - dozens, 
one after another) building, then immediately after 90% of connections 
1st pop up - showing building - they immediately fail.  Problem is, so 
many fail so quickly (in seconds), fair amount of time, there aren't 3 
good (open, stable) connections.  Therefore, d/l seems to drop to zero 
during that time.


2) ** Currently, this behavior does NOT level off.  It continues as 
long a Tor / Polipo are running (even a day or more).  Regardless, in 
past if I ran Tor for 1 hr, I NEVER saw anything close to this.  I don't 
leave Tor running (for normal browsing) for days at a time.  Never have.


3) Now, my speeds never pick up (for any length of time).

On 10/13/2010 8:22 AM, Jon wrote:

That is normal right after you start Tor up. What your seeing is Tor
is still building circuits. After a short period, it does level out,
then you should only be showing several circuits. Your dl/up speeds
will vary during this and will level off shortly after.

After your connection has been up for a while ie: several days, your
speeds will pick up as the other nodes get to know your node.
Everything is normal of what your seeing.  :)

Thanks for running Tor.

Jon

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Joe Btfsplkjoebtfs...@gmx.com  wrote:

  Recently noticed Tor being slower than usual  network map shows MANY new
connections building, then failing VERY quickly. (within a sec or so).  Does
this constantly - one connection after another.  Using Vidalia
0.2.1.26-0.2.9;  Torbutton 1.2.5.

Sometimes there are at least 3 connections open - sometimes not.  1st time
I've seen this.

Did close Vidalia / Tor, Polipo, Firefox 3.6.10  Torbutton, the restart -
couple of times - no change.
During the connection, for brief times, D/L speeds may get up to normal
for me - but not for long.

Anyone noticed this or have suggestions?  Thanks.
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Re: Full bandwidth is not used.

2010-10-13 Thread Thomas S. Benjamin
Paul,

Is your relay running on a virtual machine (V-colo)?

If so, check your user beancounters, they may show you which resources
are being exhausted.  Also, do you find any messages in your log?

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Paul Menzel
paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
 Dear Tor folks,


 I am still seeing the same problem [1]. In April it used the whole limit
 of 1 TB and hibernated after the limit was reached, but afterward it
 only came back to around 100 GB per month.

 Fast IT is not limiting the bandwidth in any way. I tested that. CPU and
 memory are not utilized completely either.

 Here is the output from arm.

        arm - anonymisierungsdienst (Linux...)     Tor 0.2.1.26 (recommended)
        anonymisierungsdien - 0.0.0.0:9090, Dir Port: 80, Control Port (open): 
 9051
        cpu: 0.5%    mem: 92 MB (13.0%)   pid: 1186    uptime: 14-15:11:11
        fingerprint: B3EC1BF5D7F7D724BA634D91BE5D22D2D7A70160
        flags: Exit, Fast, Guard, Named, Running, Stable, Valid

 I only have

        AccountingMax 500 GB

 set in `/etc/tor/torrc`.

 So it must be a Tor problem. As you can see from the graphs the
 bandwidth usage goes up and down quite often. What might be the reason?
 Besides it is still below the available 100 Mbit/s.

 So does rebalancing still have problems as indicated in Andrew’s answer
 [3]?


 Thanks,

 Paul


 [1] http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2010/msg00010.html
 [2] http://www.atagar.com/arm/
 [3] http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Apr-2010/msg00140.html




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Re: Tor network connections constantly building / failing

2010-10-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
 What I'm seeing is completely ABnormal from what I've seen for 1 - 2 
yrs, over several Tor / Vidalia versions.  I often looked at network 
maps - was never like this.


1)  What I described about connections constantly (RAPID fire - dozens, 
one after another) building, then immediately after 90% of connections 
1st pop up - showing building - they immediately fail.  Problem is, so 
many fail so quickly (in seconds), fair amount of time, there aren't 3 
good (open, stable) connections.  Therefore, d/l seems to drop to zero 
during that time.


2) ** Currently, this behavior does NOT level off.  It continues as 
long a Tor / Polipo are running (even a day or more).  Regardless, in 
past if I ran Tor for 1 hr, I NEVER saw anything close to this.  I don't 
leave Tor running (for normal browsing) for days at a time.  Never have.


3) Now, my speeds never pick up (for any length of time).

On 10/13/2010 8:22 AM, Jon wrote:

That is normal right after you start Tor up. What your seeing is Tor
is still building circuits. After a short period, it does level out,
then you should only be showing several circuits. Your dl/up speeds
will vary during this and will level off shortly after.

After your connection has been up for a while ie: several days, your
speeds will pick up as the other nodes get to know your node.
Everything is normal of what your seeing.  :)

Thanks for running Tor.

Jon

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Joe Btfsplkjoebtfs...@gmx.com  wrote:

  Recently noticed Tor being slower than usual  network map shows MANY new
connections building, then failing VERY quickly. (within a sec or so).  Does
this constantly - one connection after another.  Using Vidalia
0.2.1.26-0.2.9;  Torbutton 1.2.5.

Sometimes there are at least 3 connections open - sometimes not.  1st time
I've seen this.

Did close Vidalia / Tor, Polipo, Firefox 3.6.10  Torbutton, the restart -
couple of times - no change.
During the connection, for brief times, D/L speeds may get up to normal
for me - but not for long.

Anyone noticed this or have suggestions?  Thanks.
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Harden torrc for hidden services?

2010-10-13 Thread hikki
Are there any extra options you could add in the torrc file to harden hidden 
services from possible attacks?
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Re: Tor network connections constantly building / failing

2010-10-13 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com):

  What I'm seeing is completely ABnormal from what I've seen for 1 - 2 
 yrs, over several Tor / Vidalia versions.  I often looked at network 
 maps - was never like this.
 
 1)  What I described about connections constantly (RAPID fire - dozens, 
 one after another) building, then immediately after 90% of connections 
 1st pop up - showing building - they immediately fail.  Problem is, so 
 many fail so quickly (in seconds), fair amount of time, there aren't 3 
 good (open, stable) connections.  Therefore, d/l seems to drop to zero 
 during that time.
 
 2) ** Currently, this behavior does NOT level off.  It continues as 
 long a Tor / Polipo are running (even a day or more).  Regardless, in 
 past if I ran Tor for 1 hr, I NEVER saw anything close to this.  I don't 
 leave Tor running (for normal browsing) for days at a time.  Never have.
 
 3) Now, my speeds never pick up (for any length of time).

Your ISP may be blocking connections to the Tor network. What type of
internet connection is this? Work/school/library/home? What country
are you in? Have you tried other networks/open wifi to see if you get
the same result?


-- 
Mike Perry
Mad Computer Scientist
fscked.org evil labs


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Re: Full bandwidth is not used.

2010-10-13 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear Thomas,


Am Mittwoch, den 13.10.2010, 10:31 -0400 schrieb Thomas S. Benjamin:

 Is your relay running on a virtual machine (V-colo)?

Yes, the relay is running on a virtual machine.

 If so, check your user beancounters, they may show you which resources
 are being exhausted.

Xen is used. So I cannot check those entries, but according to the FAQ,
this should not be a problem [1]. I also checked with `top` on Dom0 and
DomU and the ressources are barley used.

 Also, do you find any messages in your log?

The log just contains the normal `[NOTICE]` messages.



Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2010/msg00155.html
[2] 
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#CanIrunaTorrelayfrommyvirtualserveraccount


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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-13 Thread katmagic
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:
 
 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.
 
 SafeLogging 0
 
 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.
 
 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.
 
 Jon
 
 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
  amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
  scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
  does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.
 
  Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
  in its place?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jon
 
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What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was
there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
else entirely?

Also, which operating system are you using?

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checking new email on adium

2010-10-13 Thread M
When Adium checks for new emails when an acct is routed thru tor.. will the
eail checking also be routed thru it, or will it use the global settings?