Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
On 11.01.2011 06:19, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote: Do they describe causes their requests? usually not in detail and besides that I don't care. In most cases it is fraud or stalking. Requests from BKA (some kind of German FBI) or via Berlin state department are more sophisticated and related to bomb threats, threatened politicians, school massacres, and so on in other countries. Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
On 10.01.2011 22:07, Andrew Lewis wrote: What do they typically ask for, and is it from any place in particular? they always ask for a relation between an ip address (the one of my exit node) in conjunction with a time stamp, and an individual. Usually I'm asked for user's inventory data Bestandsdaten and session data Verbindungsdaten. In other words they ask: Which of your users was assigned the ip address 192.251.226.205 at $TIMESTAMP? - Please provide us with all of your data related to this individual. I'm not sure what do you mean with particular place. Do you ask if the requests originate from a certain law enforcement agency? They don't. regards Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: JanusVM: try again
Because you apparently didn't get it the first time: http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Dec-2010/msg00235.html On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Praedor Atrebates prae...@yahoo.comwrote: NO one told me to take it off list until now. No one. I also didn't bring it up until I saw OTHER messages here by OTHER people asking/talking about it. Besides, it is not entirely off-topic as the entire reason/purpose of the Janus thing is to use tor...and is there any other mailing list or development list for it? On Monday, January 10, 2011 06:52:42 pm you wrote: Dude, I told you to quit asking the Tor mailing list these things as I've replied to directly several times now explaining this. In your case, you're new default route should be set to 192.168.0.5 (the IP for JanusVM). You're about 1 more question away from being labeled a troll. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Praedor Atrebates prae...@yahoo.com wrote: . (and have a hell of a time getting the release of my eth0 device so I can get back to a direct internet connection). This is basic linux/unix routing. Changing your IP and default route in linux is not that hard, as I've explained how to do this is a very detailed e-mail already. What is the gateway IP in this setup? 192.168.0.5, the external IP address of JanusVM. Sorry their isn't a perfect step-by-step for you, but if you don't know how to change your route, IP address, or DNS in Linux then you have MUCH to learn before you can effectively stay anonymous. And for the last time, LEARN BASIC LINUX NETWORKING *BEFORE* you ask anything else. -- Economics is not practised as a science. Rather, it is a pretentious way to covertly promote political prejudices. - Fred Harrison *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
On 10/01/11 21:00, Olaf Selke wrote: However I'm not sure what will happen at certain country's airport immigration. What does this mean? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
Recent cases of people being stopped by DHS as they enter/exit the country due to political causes they are affiliated with. Not really anything to do with Tor yet, but wikileaks or hacking in general. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Matthew pump...@cotse.net wrote: On 10/01/11 21:00, Olaf Selke wrote: However I'm not sure what will happen at certain country's airport immigration. What does this mean? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
On 11.01.2011 11:15, Matthew wrote: What does this mean? sorry, I meant I didn't visit countries with oppressive regimes during the last three years. Don't know if they'd like me entering their country even when coming in peace as a tourist. Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
Olaf Selke wrote: On 11.01.2011 11:15, Matthew wrote: What does this mean? sorry, I meant I didn't visit countries with oppressive regimes during the last three years. Don't know if they'd like me entering their country even when coming in peace as a tourist. Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ And what are those countries? And what they did? Refuse your requests for visa or deport you in spite of giving a visa earlier? Or threaten you of your arrest? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
Olaf Selke wrote: On 11.01.2011 11:15, Matthew wrote: What does this mean? sorry, I meant I didn't visit countries with oppressive regimes during the last three years. Don't know if they'd like me entering their country even when coming in peace as a tourist. Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ And what are those countries? And what they did? Refuse your requests for visa or deport you in spite of giving a visa earlier? Or threaten you of your arrest? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
I think Olaf is expressing a concern, rather than a real-life situation for him. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 15:29, Orionjur Tor-admin tor-ad...@orionjurinform.com wrote: Olaf Selke wrote: On 11.01.2011 11:15, Matthew wrote: What does this mean? sorry, I meant I didn't visit countries with oppressive regimes during the last three years. Don't know if they'd like me entering their country even when coming in peace as a tourist. Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ And what are those countries? And what they did? Refuse your requests for visa or deport you in spite of giving a visa earlier? Or threaten you of your arrest? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ -- Simple guidelines to happiness: Work like you don't need the money, Love like your heart has never been broken and Dance like no one can see you. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
On 11.01.2011 15:48, Nils Vogels wrote: I think Olaf is expressing a concern, rather than a real-life situation for him. yes indeed, I did. Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Gmail saying cookies are turned off but they are not
Praedor Atrebates wrote: I am using my usual tor button + firefox to access a gmail account. I have generally had no problems but lately I try to log in and get a cookies are turned off and that I need to turn them on. Cookies are NOT turned off, they are set to be treated as session cookies and they get wiped whenever I shut off firefox. Perhaps there is a setting hidden away somewhere that I can check, whether in the tor button settings or firefox? I periodically have such probolem. It is very intresting what is causes of it. Sometimes it resolves after some preriod of time by oneself (I don't know how and why; deleting of cashe usually doesn't take any effect); sometimes I need to delete all my user's profile of my browser to resolve it. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: JanusVM: try again
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 07:17:27PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote: NO one told me to take it off list until now. No one. I also didn't bring it up until I saw OTHER messages here by OTHER people asking/talking about it. Besides, it is not entirely off-topic as the entire reason/purpose of the Janus thing is to use tor...and is there any other mailing list or development list for it? Just killfile him like the rest of us, and all will be well. On Monday, January 10, 2011 06:52:42 pm you wrote: Dude, I told you to quit asking the Tor mailing list these things as I've replied to directly several times now explaining this. In your case, you're new default route should be set to 192.168.0.5 (the IP for JanusVM). You're about 1 more question away from being labeled a troll. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Praedor Atrebates prae...@yahoo.comwrote: . (and have a hell of a time getting the release of my eth0 device so I can get back to a direct internet connection). This is basic linux/unix routing. Changing your IP and default route in linux is not that hard, as I've explained how to do this is a very detailed e-mail already. What is the gateway IP in this setup? 192.168.0.5, the external IP address of JanusVM. Sorry their isn't a perfect step-by-step for you, but if you don't know how to change your route, IP address, or DNS in Linux then you have MUCH to learn before you can effectively stay anonymous. And for the last time, LEARN BASIC LINUX NETWORKING *BEFORE* you ask anything else. -- Economics is not practised as a science. Rather, it is a pretentious way to covertly promote political prejudices. - Fred Harrison *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
How can I increase my bandwidth?
I am operating 2 tor-servers: one under FreeBSD and other under Debian Lenny. Their parameteres: 1. uname -a 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0 r34M: Wed Nov 24 10:02:09 IRKT 2010 RAM 512 Mb CPU 1GHz r...@freebsd8-amd64.ispsystem.net:/root/src/sys/amd64/compile/ISPSYSTEM amd64 Tor v0.2.2.20-alpha OpenSSL 0.9.8n 24 Mar 2010 non-exit node 2. uname -a Linux 2.6.18-028stab070.4-ent #1 SMP Tue Aug 17 19:03:05 MSD 2010 i686 GNU/Linux RAM 786432 kB CPU 502.313 MHz Tor version 0.2.2.20-alpha OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007 exit-node As it can be shown from the Tor Statistics the bandwidth of the first node is more that one of the second: http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=c82e893bbe859e01a9bb38517ff6b3f91493560d http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=2ce7d7703c7679f0bbe711668ff0923ffcf8997f What can be a cause of that and how can I increase the bandwidth of my Debian node? P.S. I have set the next setting in the '/etc/tor/torrc' of both of them: RelayBandwidthRate 200 KBytes RelayBandwidthBurst 400 KBytes *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
geeez...
ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips for running a tor exit node except: Do it. or We do have a lawyer (how is that supposed to help me?) I will just ask the german Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik (https://www.bsi.bund.de) howto setup a TOR exit node without ruining my life... :D people here are probably too cool to give noobs instructions... Dirk *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: geeez...
Dirk, I don't think anyone on this list is too cool to give instructions, it is just that instructions already exist. The Tor Project website has information on how to set up a relay. http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en http://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en http://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en Mike Perry also wrote this great guide for running an exit node. https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment -Kory On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Dirk noi...@gmx.net wrote: ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips for running a tor exit node except: Do it. or We do have a lawyer (how is that supposed to help me?) I will just ask the german Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik (https://www.bsi.bund.de) howto setup a TOR exit node without ruining my life... :D people here are probably too cool to give noobs instructions... Dirk *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: geeez...
Hi Dirk, ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips for running a tor exit node except: What do you want to know exactly? In many countries, running an anonymizing service is definitely not illegal. Many exit operators run into trouble with their ISP, because they are too easily scared by DMCA complaints and the like. This is especially true for an exit policy that allows arbitrary ports, as your ISP will be flooded with mails from BayTSP/MediaSentry. That's why we have compiled a list of well-known ports. [1] You should find an ISP who explicitly allows you to run a Tor exit, and if you want you can start with an open exit policy. If your ISP complaints and wants to shut you down later, you can switch to the reduced exit policy. Or, you can allow exiting only to a few ports. It's your decision. Try to convince your ISP to SWIP the IP range and attach your personal abuse handle. Example: http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/cgi-bin/whois.pl?ip=79.140.39.227 Most complaints you will have to deal with can be easily solved by telling them about Tor. In extreme cases, the police might come knocking to your door or even try to seize your equipment, but I am only aware of a single case in Germany where that happened some years ago. If you need technical help setting up a node, the comments in torrc and the documentation on the website should help you. If not, join #tor on irc.oftc.net and I'm sure there will be someone to give you a hand. -- Moritz Bartl http://www.torservers.net/ [1] https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment On 12.01.2011 00:28, Dirk wrote: Do it. or We do have a lawyer (how is that supposed to help me?) I will just ask the german Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik (https://www.bsi.bund.de) howto setup a TOR exit node without ruining my life... :D people here are probably too cool to give noobs instructions... Dirk *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: geeez...
Moritz Bartl wrote: Hi Dirk, ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips for running a tor exit node except: What do you want to know exactly? In many countries, running an anonymizing service is definitely not illegal. This stuff: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment reads all like How not to get caught. But I wan't a legally binding statement from a lawyer or an official (BSI) that running TOR exit nodes in germany is legal. And then I wan't to sink that little money I have into running as many of such servers as I can. Dirk *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: geeez...
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Dirk noi...@gmx.net wrote: Moritz Bartl wrote: Hi Dirk, ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips for running a tor exit node except: What do you want to know exactly? In many countries, running an anonymizing service is definitely not illegal. This stuff: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment reads all like How not to get caught. But I wan't a legally binding statement from a lawyer or an official (BSI) that running TOR exit nodes in germany is legal. The question is not is it legal? but how do I minimize the effects if someone decides to harass me through the law? And then I wan't to sink that little money I have into running as many of such servers as I can. An admirable goal. Dirk *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ -- Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: geeez...
Dirk, Considering I2P's German home I think you should go back to what others have said, it's not a matter of Legal, it's a matter of reducing activity that might raise the alarm of other people. So read the links sent, consider the port limitations, and work up from there. If you really need to find something more concrete then consider contacting EFF and EFF Europe projects (https://www.eff.org/issues/eff-europe). Good luck, -Ali
Re: geeez...
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:29:49 +0100 Dirk noi...@gmx.net wrote: But I wan't a legally binding statement from a lawyer or an official (BSI) that running TOR exit nodes in germany is legal. Ask the CCC for a start. They have defended many Germans already. -- Andrew pgp 0x74ED336B *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: geeez...
Thus spake Dirk (noi...@gmx.net): ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips for running a tor exit node except: What do you want to know exactly? In many countries, running an anonymizing service is definitely not illegal. This stuff: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment reads all like How not to get caught. The tips in the blog post are not how not to get caught. In fact, every one of them is about telling people as early in the process what is going on, and who to contact if there are issues. This is done because at scale (gigabit speeds), abuse complaints happen way more frequently. With the default exit policy, you will get about 50 automated DMCA complaints per day at gigabit speeds. With the bittorrent-resistant reduced exit policy from that post, you get about 5 per week. So it is entirely about reducing your work load for managing your exit, and keeping the noise away from your ISP. As previous threads indicate, law enforcement can and does still contact you. The goal again is making this easy, so no one needs to kick in any doors. Some of us are also compiling abuse response templates. The goal for abuse responses is to inform people about Tor, and to suggest solutions for their security problems that involve improving their computer security for the Internet at large (open wifi, open proxies, botnets), rather than seeking vengeance and chasing ghosts. The difference between these two approaches to abuse is the difference between decentralized fault-tolerant Internet freedom, and fragile, corruptible totalitarian control. But I wan't a legally binding statement from a lawyer or an official (BSI) that running TOR exit nodes in germany is legal. I'm not a lawyer, but our largest exit (blutmagie) has run in germany for the past 4 years or so. And then I wan't to sink that little money I have into running as many of such servers as I can. We have discovered that the most effective way to run tor servers is in bulk, because smaller providers are not willing to put up with occasional abuse complaints that do get through to them, because doing so costs them human resources and dollars. Bandwidth also is considerably cheaper in bulk than it is at residential or even shared hosting/VPS prices. Consider donating to http://www.torservers.net/, or setting up your own similar project and collecting donations to leverage the economies of scale inherent in bandwidth prices. Obviously, the more people doing this the better (for distributed trust). See also the thread at: http://www.mail-archive.com/or-talk@freehaven.net/msg14159.html for some insight into the arcane technical details involved in running high capacity tor relays. -- Mike Perry Mad Computer Scientist fscked.org evil labs pgpWMTLlwF1UR.pgp Description: PGP signature
