Re: [Kraut] Re: tor-proxy.net

2010-01-04 Thread morphium

Thus my exit node still neither
collects any data nor do I store any (already not existing) logs for six
months.


So there is, even in germany, the possiblity not to store anything at all. That 
would be possible for tor-proxy.net aswell...but hey, they have several ads on 
their landing page, so your privacy is gone once you call their main page ;)

I have https://morphium.info/, an anonymous web proxy, and I'm sitting in 
germany, too. I never had logs there (and will never have), and the law 
enforcment has to accept it, that I can not retain logs where logs aren't 
created.

Best regards,
morphium

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Re: [Kraut] Re: tor-proxy.net

2010-01-04 Thread M
Thanks much for the info everyone, and thanks for the links Karsten N.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Olaf Selke  wrote:

> Benjamin S. schrieb:
> >
> > I don't know if anonymouse is logging and if so, under which
> > circumstances they give those logs. I do log, because I'm sitting in
> > Germany where I'm forced to do so by the data retention law.
>
> to make a long story short: I'm on Bundesnetzagentur's radar since at
> least one year by police's request regarding obligation for data
> retention "§113a TKG Vorratsdatenspeicherung". In June 2009 there has
> been some correspondence in writing between the Bundesnetzagentur and my
> lawyer. In the end they no longer threatened me with a fine for
> violating German data retention law. Thus my exit node still neither
> collects any data nor do I store any (already not existing) logs for six
> months.
>
> > Even I'm law-student, so I know a little bit 'bout when I have to give
> > away the logs and when not. (you can read about this here[1])
>
> Germany situation is such that you have to hand over your logs on
> authority's request. There's no choice to retain them.
>
> Olaf
>
> * the German Bundesnetzagentur is similar to the Ofcom in the UK.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofcom
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[Kraut] Re: tor-proxy.net

2010-01-03 Thread Olaf Selke
Benjamin S. schrieb:
> 
> I don't know if anonymouse is logging and if so, under which
> circumstances they give those logs. I do log, because I'm sitting in
> Germany where I'm forced to do so by the data retention law.

to make a long story short: I'm on Bundesnetzagentur's radar since at
least one year by police's request regarding obligation for data
retention "§113a TKG Vorratsdatenspeicherung". In June 2009 there has
been some correspondence in writing between the Bundesnetzagentur and my
lawyer. In the end they no longer threatened me with a fine for
violating German data retention law. Thus my exit node still neither
collects any data nor do I store any (already not existing) logs for six
months.

> Even I'm law-student, so I know a little bit 'bout when I have to give
> away the logs and when not. (you can read about this here[1])

Germany situation is such that you have to hand over your logs on
authority's request. There's no choice to retain them.

Olaf

* the German Bundesnetzagentur is similar to the Ofcom in the UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofcom
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