Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
On 11.01.2011 15:48, Nils Vogels wrote: > I think Olaf is expressing a concern, rather than a real-life situation for > him. yes indeed, I did. Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
I think Olaf is expressing a concern, rather than a real-life situation for him. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 15:29, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote: > Olaf Selke wrote: >> On 11.01.2011 11:15, Matthew wrote: >>> What does this mean? >> >> sorry, I meant I didn't visit countries with oppressive regimes during >> the last three years. Don't know if they'd like me entering their >> country even when coming in peace as a tourist. >> >> Olaf >> *** >> To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with >> unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >> > > And what are those countries? And what they did? Refuse your requests > for visa or deport you in spite of giving a visa earlier? Or > threaten you of your arrest? > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > -- Simple guidelines to happiness: Work like you don't need the money, Love like your heart has never been broken and Dance like no one can see you. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
Olaf Selke wrote: > On 11.01.2011 11:15, Matthew wrote: >> What does this mean? > > sorry, I meant I didn't visit countries with oppressive regimes during > the last three years. Don't know if they'd like me entering their > country even when coming in peace as a tourist. > > Olaf > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > And what are those countries? And what they did? Refuse your requests for visa or deport you in spite of giving a visa earlier? Or threaten you of your arrest? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
Olaf Selke wrote: > On 11.01.2011 11:15, Matthew wrote: >> What does this mean? > > sorry, I meant I didn't visit countries with oppressive regimes during > the last three years. Don't know if they'd like me entering their > country even when coming in peace as a tourist. > > Olaf > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > And what are those countries? And what they did? Refuse your requests for visa or deport you in spite of giving a visa earlier? Or threaten you of your arrest? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
On 11.01.2011 11:15, Matthew wrote: > > What does this mean? sorry, I meant I didn't visit countries with oppressive regimes during the last three years. Don't know if they'd like me entering their country even when coming in peace as a tourist. Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
Recent cases of people being stopped by DHS as they enter/exit the country due to political causes they are affiliated with. Not really anything to do with Tor yet, but wikileaks or hacking in general. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Matthew wrote: > > > On 10/01/11 21:00, Olaf Selke wrote: > >> However I'm not sure what will happen at certain country's airport >> immigration. >> > What does this mean? > > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
On 10/01/11 21:00, Olaf Selke wrote: However I'm not sure what will happen at certain country's airport immigration. What does this mean? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
On 10.01.2011 22:07, Andrew Lewis wrote: > What do they typically ask for, and is it from any place in particular? they always ask for a relation between an ip address (the one of my exit node) in conjunction with a time stamp, and an individual. Usually I'm asked for user's inventory data "Bestandsdaten" and session data "Verbindungsdaten". In other words they ask: "Which of your users was assigned the ip address 192.251.226.205 at $TIMESTAMP?" - "Please provide us with all of your data related to this individual." I'm not sure what do you mean with particular place. Do you ask if the requests originate from a certain law enforcement agency? They don't. regards Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
On 11.01.2011 06:19, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote: > > Do they describe causes their requests? usually not in detail and besides that I don't care. In most cases it is fraud or stalking. Requests from BKA (some kind of German FBI) or via Berlin state department are more sophisticated and related to bomb threats, threatened politicians, school massacres, and so on in other countries. Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
Olaf Selke wrote: > Am 10.01.2011 20:42, schrieb Roc Admin: >> This is interesting. Could you detail time consumed in resolving the >> requests and any problems you ran into with authorities? > > this morning arrived the first fax in 2011 requesting user data. Police > is back again from Xmas vacation ;-) > > Using my template composing the answer and sending it thru a fax machine > usually takes less than 15min. I never did run into difficulties with > police so far. However I'm not sure what will happen at certain > country's airport immigration. > > In most cases the police officers are quite polite and almost happy to > close their file cause the trace ends. I suppose it's much more easy to > deal with law enforcement if you appear 25 times a year on police's > radar than only once. At least they tend to believe my words. > > regards Olaf > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > Do they describe causes their requests? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
What do they typically ask for, and is it from any place in particular? Also what sort of things typically generate these notices? On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Olaf Selke wrote: > Am 10.01.2011 20:42, schrieb Roc Admin: > > This is interesting. Could you detail time consumed in resolving the > > requests and any problems you ran into with authorities? > > this morning arrived the first fax in 2011 requesting user data. Police > is back again from Xmas vacation ;-) > > Using my template composing the answer and sending it thru a fax machine > usually takes less than 15min. I never did run into difficulties with > police so far. However I'm not sure what will happen at certain > country's airport immigration. > > In most cases the police officers are quite polite and almost happy to > close their file cause the trace ends. I suppose it's much more easy to > deal with law enforcement if you appear 25 times a year on police's > radar than only once. At least they tend to believe my words. > > regards Olaf > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
Am 10.01.2011 20:42, schrieb Roc Admin: > This is interesting. Could you detail time consumed in resolving the > requests and any problems you ran into with authorities? this morning arrived the first fax in 2011 requesting user data. Police is back again from Xmas vacation ;-) Using my template composing the answer and sending it thru a fax machine usually takes less than 15min. I never did run into difficulties with police so far. However I'm not sure what will happen at certain country's airport immigration. In most cases the police officers are quite polite and almost happy to close their file cause the trace ends. I suppose it's much more easy to deal with law enforcement if you appear 25 times a year on police's radar than only once. At least they tend to believe my words. regards Olaf *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: blutmagie law enforcement inquiry stats
This is interesting. Could you detail time consumed in resolving the requests and any problems you ran into with authorities? On Jan 8, 2011 10:43 AM, "Olaf Selke" wrote: > Hi, > > here's a short compilation showing the number of inquiries per quarter > from German police requesting my exit node's customer data since 2007. I > didn't count all the emails, phone calls, and requests from foreign law > enforcement or intelligence services. > > Certainly I never had any data to hand over. > > Olaf > > > > 2007 | 2008 | 2009 | 2010 > = > Q1 | NA | 6 | 8 | 12 > Q2 | NA | 4 | 4 | 6 > Q3 | 4 | 3 | 9 | 3 > Q4 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 6 > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talk in the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
