Fwd: files needed

2001-05-04 Thread Jared Still



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Hi,
We are in the process of migrating our NT based Oracle applications to Unix.
 Sun Solaris was the choice. We have also many applications written in Pro*C
 in NT. We want to migrate those also to Unix. Acc to Oracle Docs, pcscfg.cfg
 file is needed to compile the pro*c progs to C and then compile them. but in
 $ORACLE_HOME/precomp/admin dir pcscfg.cfg is a 0 byte file .

Can u pl send me copy of pcscfg.cfg file and also sample make file.

TIA

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Re: EXPORT vs. Hot Physical Backup

2001-05-04 Thread nlzanen1


Hi,


Ever tried to export a let's say 50Gb database, let alone import it again??

I'd say the export utility should only be used to recover an accidentally
dropped/corrupted table and datafile backup (either hot, or if you have the
luxury, cold) is the way for backup  Recovery of entire database.


Jack


   
  
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Which is a better way to back up a database - use EXPORT/IMPORT or
physical datafile backups?

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Re: wrong setting of sort_area_size

2001-05-04 Thread nlzanen1


Hi,


Setting the sort_area_size to something so big it sounds silly may actually
improve some querries dramatically. I don't see why it should degrade
performance if you have the physical memory to spare.

We had a batch job that took about 60 hours but had to be tuned so it
fitted in the 4 hours maintenance window. Apart from some funky compute
statistics we increased the sort_area_size to 100Mb after which it did a
hash join i.s.o nested loops and finished well within half hour


Jack


   
  
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we had a customer of the sort_area_size=1000
in their database, the temp table space is 256MB, the
db_block_size is 8k. They have some performance
problem, I think it's probably related to the setting
of sort_area_size(we have only one user). So what's
the benefits/disadvantage of too big sort_area_size?

Thanks,

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Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-04 Thread Hallas, John

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David,
I support what you say about taking your time entirely. In fact at any
interviews I attend backup/recovery question(s)n are always asked. My
standard answer is the at then first thing I will do is go for a cup of
coffee. After their jaws have finished dropping I explain how thinking time
is required etc.

On  a similar theme a few years ago I was interviewing for a contract DBA
and he made the statement along the lines of 'you are paying me more because
I have made mistakes before and I have learnt from them so you will be safe
with me'. ( I am sure he phrased it more eloquently than that).
After the interview the senior manager at the interview said that he would
not have anyone  as self-obsessed and over-confident as that on board. I
disagreed and said that what the contractor was offering was exactly what we
wanted. We took him on and he fitted in very well. This story fits in with
the concept of getting a coffee and thinking about things first, which is
all about using your experience well.

John

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Jared,

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said Best
practice of
course is to make a backup of your database in it's current
condition
prior to restoring it.  

Too many recoveries are failures because DBAs tend to forget
basics when
confronted with the pressures from management, users, and
the
constraints of time (primary key).  I made this mistake once
early on. 
Now if I have a possible recovery scenario, the first thing
I do is take
a deep breath, get a cup of coffee, and THINK about what I'm
going to do
before I ever touch the keyboard.

Absent all that, I still make a copy of the redo logs
whenever I do a
backup.  Yeah, you could mess up and apply them
inadvertently, but
hopefully you will have practiced recovery scenarios (see
Training a
DBA by Kimberly Smith) and be comfortable with your tapes,
disks,
commands, systems administrator, etc.  At least if you've
got them, and
everything goes to h*%$ in a handbasket, you can always give
'them' back
something.

David A. Barbour


Jared Still wrote:
 
 Dick,
 
 Backing up the redo logs can have some serious
consequences.
 
 Let's say you are restoring the database files, and a
number of
 archived logs to roll forward through.
 
 Following that, you are going to roll forward through all
archived logs
 that are still online, and then through your current redo
logs for a
 complete recovery.
 
 Restoring old redo logs would render this strategy
ineffective.
 
 Backing them up can be a good thing, but it would be very
easy
 to inadvertently wipe out the current ones when restoring
from tape.
 
 Best practice of course is to make a backup of your
database in
 it's current condition prior to restoring it.
 
 It would also be prudent to make copies of the redo logs
locally
 so you don't have to restore them from tape.
 
 Jared
 
 On Wednesday 02 May 2001 07:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jonathan,
 
  It would appear that your friend has hit upon one of
the problems of
  hot backups that everyone misses and actually Oracle
recommends against.
  That is backing up your online redo log files and doing
that LAST.  The
  reason is that there are more than likely active
transactions that were
  recorded therein and those logs are not available.  Can
he complete the
  recovery, maybe if he has the remaining logs from the
active system, I'm
  assuming he is recovering to somewhere other than his
production system.
  Otherwise his only recourse is OTS.
 
  Dick Goulet
  Oracle Certified 8i DBA
  

rename indexes

2001-05-04 Thread John Dunn

When I create tables with primary keys, Oracle gives the indexes a default
name.

Can I rename these indexes with meaningful names, or do I need to drop and
recreate my tables, amending create table statements to explicitly name the
indexes?

John

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RE: Anybody heard of LECCO?

2001-05-04 Thread Mark Leith

We actually distribute SQLExpert in the UK market place - and it really is a
hell of a tool - no marketing jargon! What it will do is take your SQL (you
can free format, harvest from source binary/forms/text files, online
(SQLArea), S.C.L.D files, and COBOL) then, it will rewrite as many
semantically equivalent SQL statements as is possible, and will show you all
the ones with alternate execution plans.

You can then run the source and alternates through a batch process to
determine the ones with better response  elapsed times, generate a report
or simply save your optimised code to source. You can monitor instances and
harvest poor code for optimisation at a later date too.

I'm currently testing the new beta version of LSE (V.3) which has now got a
PL/SQL module (formatting/debugging), and a new DDL extraction tool. It's a
hell of a tool, call your local sales rep and get a demo of it is my
personal opinion! It is reasonably priced - with two versions, one for a DBA
(with the interactive production monitoring) and a cut down version for
developers with all but interactive monitoring. The license is also on a
client basis, meaning that you don't have to license the tool against an
instance or server - one cost gives you everything! There are versions for
Oracle, Sybase  SQLServer with one for DB2 in development.

Enough information for now? If you have any specific questions contact me
off the list and I'll see if I can clear them up for you.

Regards

Mark

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Found this on Dogpile, looks like they have an evaluation download.


LECCOTECH: Where the Experts go for Performance
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HTH,
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Has anyone heard about a company called LECCO Technology and their products
which supposedly use artificial intelligence to re-write and optimize SQL
statements?



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RE: OT -- history of Sybase spawning MS SQL Server

2001-05-04 Thread Mark Leith

Patrice,

That's a hell of a write up! I knew the background to the SQLServer product,
but not in so much detail!

I also have a write up on the Ashton Tate/Microsoft/Sybase relationship, to
give a little more info on the early days:

Back then the PC database Market was dominated by Ashton Tate's dBase
product. dBase IV had just been released and had been having a difficult
time overcoming industry criticism that its memory management did not meet
Ashton Tate's claims. They wanted to start to build on what they saw as
their solid foundation in the PC market and start moving onto bigger
systems. They moved to bring out a version of dBase IV on UNIX and in 1988,
together with Microsoft, jointly announced a deal with Sybase to port
SQLServer down to the intel platform using the new IBM multi-tasking
operating system OS/2.

Sybase's interest was obviously to license more copies of SQLServer and
penetrate a new, lower end market. Ashton Tate's goal was equally clear - to
promote dBase as the database application for everyone. It's ease of use was
designed to make it open to fairly inexperienced users while its programming
language was to make an ideal tool for developers. By buying the Server
Edition, developers would be able to connect to more serious data sources,
like SQLServer, to store their data. (A vision remarkably similar to another
PC database that was to come to market later).

Microsoft's interest in the deal was less clear, although everyone seemed to
assume they were only out to sell copies of LAN Manager, their network
software built on OS/2 - the operating systems they had just coded for IBM.
After all - as the contemporary gossip went, Microsoft knew nothing about
databases!

The deal gave Asthon Tate full marketing rights to the product, which was
badged with the Ashton Tate logo. Microsoft's cut came from sales of LAN
Manager and Sybase's came from commission of every copy, who retained all
intellectual rights on the SQLServer software. Ashton Tate were licensed
only to add to the product.

Ashton Tate had apparently, signed a clause in the deal, that committed them
to deliver dBase IV Server Edition by a specific date. Failure would result
in the company loosing any rights in the deal. This indeed occurred and full
marketing rights switched to Microsoft almost immediately.

So that is was happened in a more detailed summary than was on Page 8.
Microsoft did pretty well out of the deal don't you think?

Regards

Mark


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More info since this is s-u-c-h a fascinating topic.  In case you're
wondering, it's past the end of the work day here for me, so I'm not wasting
time... ironically I'm staying late to study for a SQL Server 7
Administration exam!

Here goes, mind you this is from the lead developer for MS SQL Server, so
keep that in mind.

Inside SQL Server 6.5, p. 5
Ashton-Tate, Microsoft and Sybase would work together to debut SQL Server
on OS/2.  (This was the first use of the name SQL Server.  Sybase later
renamed its DataServer product for UNIX and VMS Sybase SQL Server, the
name by which it is known today.)

Continuing with the quotes on the history:
p.8 loosely summarized, MS and Sybase dropped Ashton-Tate because that
company was focusing on their dBase IV Server Edition product, and SQL
Server 1.0 was not much of a priority for them. At the time though Microsoft
still saw SQL Server primarily as a way to push LAN Manager.  So Sybase
appears to have been the key developer for this project, the ones with the
most stake in it.

p.9. in 1991 SQL Server 1.1. was released to work with Windows 3.0..

Here the shift begins.

p.10 - exact quote: It was a great day in the SQL Server group at Microsoft
when in early 1991 Microsoft's agreement with Sybase was amended to give
Microsoft read-only access to the source code, for the purpose of customer
support.  [...] As a small group of developers at Microsoft became adept
with the SQL Server source code and internal workings, Microsoft began to do
virtual bug fixes.  Although we were still not permitted to alter the
source code, we could identify line-by-line the specific modules that needed
to be changed to fix a bug.  Obviously, when we handed the fix directly to
Sybase, high-priority bugs identified by Microsoft got resolved much
quicker.

Continuing, still p.10:
After a few months of working in this way, the extra step was eliminated.
By mid-1991, Microsoft could finally fix bugs directly.  They still had to
let Sybase review the fixes before applying them, because Sybase at that
time was still nominally the owner of the base code for the database engine.

p.11 on the purpose of SQL Server at that time:  No hard limit was
established, but in general, SQL Server for OS/2 was used for workgroups of
50 users or less.  For larger groups, customers would buy a version of
Sybase SQL Server for higher performance UNIX-based or 

RE: tech help needed

2001-05-04 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi, Sinha

indexing = for easy searching something like building table of content in
your book
sorting = you know SORT
hasing = using sort of formula for search particular item, there will be
hashing algorithm here

Have a nice day

Sinardy

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Re: Security, Password policy

2001-05-04 Thread Shreepad Vaidya



Hi,

For Oracle related information

1)  You  could  go  through  PART  V   Database  security of Oracle 8i
Administrator's guide .

2) You could refer to Oracle Security  by O'REILLY  Publications.


   HTH



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Hi all,

Do you guys have any password policy knowledge to share?
For Solaris 7,
and Oracle 8i 8.1.6,

Can anyone introduce me some good URL sites for those white paper ?


Thank You

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Re: Getting ORA-01732 trying to insert into table (NOT view)

2001-05-04 Thread Tim Sawmiller

Are you sure the public synonym isn't pointing to an object in some other database 
thru a link?

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Why do I keep getting this error even though this object is not a view??? I am in as 
the owner of the table, which has the DBA role to boot.

SQL show user 
USER is FARS_OWNER 
SQL select owner, object_name, object_type from dba_objects where object_name like 
'%ALIASTYPE%'; 

OWNER OBJECT_NAME OBJECT_TYPE 
--- -- -- 
PUBLIC MFGALIASTYPE SYNONYM 
FARS_OWNER MFGALIASTYPE TABLE 
FARS_OWNER MFGALIASTYPE_VALUE_PK INDEX 

SQL select * from MFGALIASTYPE; 

VA I ATTRIBUTE PROMPTNAME SORTORDER 
-- - -- --- - 
T F SN Temic Accelerometer SN 30 
T SN Actual Serial Number 10 
A F SN Accelerometer SN 40 
C F SN Customer SN 20 
D F SN Daughter Board SN 60 
S F SN Sensor SN 50 

6 rows selected. 

SQL insert into MFGALIASTYPE values ('X', 'F', 'SN', 'Test', 80); 
insert into MFGALIASTYPE values ('X', 'F', 'SN', 'Test', 80) 
* 
ERROR at line 1: 
ORA-01732: data manipulation operation not legal on this view 

BTW, the synonym is for the table so other users can access it without adding the 
owner's name. I had already tried insert into FARS_OWNER.MFGALIASTYPE ... as well, 
but didn't include that here. 

Here's the table definition: 
CREATE TABLE FARS_OWNER.MFGALIASTYPE (VALUE VARCHAR2(2), 
ISDEFAULT VARCHAR2(1), ATTRIBUTE VARCHAR2(45), PROMPTNAME 
VARCHAR2(45) NOT NULL ENABLE, SORTORDER NUMBER(2, 0)) PCTFREE 10 
PCTUSED 40 INITRANS 1 MAXTRANS 255 LOGGING TABLESPACE TBL_TINY ; 

ALTER TABLE FARS_OWNER.MFGALIASTYPE ADD CONSTRAINT 
MFGALIASTYPE_VALUE_PK PRIMARY KEY (PROMPTNAME) USING INDEX 
PCTFREE 10 INITRANS 2 MAXTRANS 255 TABLESPACE USER_DATA ENABLE 
NOVALIDATE ; 

This is using 8.1.5 EE on NT 4 SP6a.

Michael Ray
Oracle DBA
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Need oracle patch 8.1.7.1.1

2001-05-04 Thread Shaw, John B

I just downloaded patch 8.1.7.1.2 from metalink -
in the readme (yes I actually read it before installing )  it states that
the earliest version that this patch may be applied to is 
8.1.7.1.1 - I can't find this patch on metalink
anybody know where I can get it?


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Re: Getting ORA-01732 trying to insert into table (NOT view)

2001-05-04 Thread Tim Sawmiller

..or that the public synonym is really pointing at the object you think it is?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/03/01 04:55PM 
Why do I keep getting this error even though this object is not a view??? I am in as 
the owner of the table, which has the DBA role to boot.

SQL show user 
USER is FARS_OWNER 
SQL select owner, object_name, object_type from dba_objects where object_name like 
'%ALIASTYPE%'; 

OWNER OBJECT_NAME OBJECT_TYPE 
--- -- -- 
PUBLIC MFGALIASTYPE SYNONYM 
FARS_OWNER MFGALIASTYPE TABLE 
FARS_OWNER MFGALIASTYPE_VALUE_PK INDEX 

SQL select * from MFGALIASTYPE; 

VA I ATTRIBUTE PROMPTNAME SORTORDER 
-- - -- --- - 
T F SN Temic Accelerometer SN 30 
T SN Actual Serial Number 10 
A F SN Accelerometer SN 40 
C F SN Customer SN 20 
D F SN Daughter Board SN 60 
S F SN Sensor SN 50 

6 rows selected. 

SQL insert into MFGALIASTYPE values ('X', 'F', 'SN', 'Test', 80); 
insert into MFGALIASTYPE values ('X', 'F', 'SN', 'Test', 80) 
* 
ERROR at line 1: 
ORA-01732: data manipulation operation not legal on this view 

BTW, the synonym is for the table so other users can access it without adding the 
owner's name. I had already tried insert into FARS_OWNER.MFGALIASTYPE ... as well, 
but didn't include that here. 

Here's the table definition: 
CREATE TABLE FARS_OWNER.MFGALIASTYPE (VALUE VARCHAR2(2), 
ISDEFAULT VARCHAR2(1), ATTRIBUTE VARCHAR2(45), PROMPTNAME 
VARCHAR2(45) NOT NULL ENABLE, SORTORDER NUMBER(2, 0)) PCTFREE 10 
PCTUSED 40 INITRANS 1 MAXTRANS 255 LOGGING TABLESPACE TBL_TINY ; 

ALTER TABLE FARS_OWNER.MFGALIASTYPE ADD CONSTRAINT 
MFGALIASTYPE_VALUE_PK PRIMARY KEY (PROMPTNAME) USING INDEX 
PCTFREE 10 INITRANS 2 MAXTRANS 255 TABLESPACE USER_DATA ENABLE 
NOVALIDATE ; 

This is using 8.1.5 EE on NT 4 SP6a.

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RE: might be really old topic, but please take a look

2001-05-04 Thread Sinardy Xing

I think most of us here will prefer Oracle

Sinardy

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Probably this has been posed million times, but I
really like to know.  We'll have a meeting about this
in our company, and I'd love to contribute someting.
Any idea on the following issue, any link, paper, etc,
will be greatly appreciated.

pros and cons of 

1. Oracle vs Sybase

2. Unix vs NT


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RE: rename indexes

2001-05-04 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: rename indexes





 -Original Message-
 From: John Dunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 When I create tables with primary keys, Oracle gives the 
 indexes a default name.
 
 Can I rename these indexes with meaningful names, or do I 
 need to drop and
 recreate my tables, amending create table statements to 
 explicitly name the indexes?


You can use alter index rename to change the name of the index.
Or (a better solution) you can name the enforcing index when you create the primary key.


Examples:
-- In both cases an index will be created with the same name
-- as the primary key constraint
create table t
 ( n number constraint t_pk primary key using index tablespace indx,
 d date
 ) ;


create table movie
 ( movie_name varchar2 (30),
 director_name varchar2 (30),
 year number,
 studio_name varchar2 (30),
 constraint movie_pk primary key (movie_name, director_name, year)
 using index tablespace indx
 )


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Re: How can I cut off a query after 3 lines?

2001-05-04 Thread William Beilstein

SELECT machine_name, login, Count(login) AS CountOfLogin 
FROM login_history
WHERE ROWNUM  4
group by machine_name, login
order by count(login) desc;


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/01 01:25PM 
Q: how can you specify with a select statement how many rows are given as a
result? I would only like to get the first three lines.

here is what I have


1  SELECT machine_name, login, Count(login) AS CountOfLogin FROM
login_history
  2  group by machine_name, login
  3* order by count(login) desc
  4  ;

MACHINE_NAME LOGIN  COUNTOFLOGIN
 -- 
mochaJeff  3
reeses   Paul  3
spiceTamara3
mochaRudy  2
reeses   Jeff  1
reeses   Ravie 1
reeses   Tonya 1
spiceRudy  1

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Re: OT -- MS makes a statement about open-source software movemen t

2001-05-04 Thread Don Jerman

Don't forget breaking up common industry design standards like incompatible
data requirements for Kerberos implementations and the use of the latest COM+
for all IPC -- you know -- the ones that require you to buy and run Microsoft
products ;-).

David Messer wrote:

 Sounds like MS is afraid Open Source Software (OSS) will undermine MS.  Hard
 to imagine a big company like MS being upset that it's competitors are
 selling ``flimsy,'' ''flawed,'' products that might 'jeopardizing property
 rights'.

 David

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 movemen t

 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010503/tc/microsoft_linux_dc_2.html
 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010503/tc/microsoft_linux_dc_2.html

 Let me know what you think.

 : )

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RE: OT -- MS makes a statement about open-source software movemen

2001-05-04 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Here is Linus's response 
http://web.siliconvalley.com/content/sv/2001/05/03/opinion/dgillmor/weblog/t
orvalds.htm

a good read ...
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Re: in addition -- ORA-04091: table mutating problem?

2001-05-04 Thread Diana_Duncan


What's your version of Oracle?  I usually have a stock answer on how to
solve this type of problem, but I just tried out your problem on my little
Personal Oracle here, and to my INCREDIBLE surprise, the trigger worked and
I didn't get an error.  Does anyone know if that's just because I'm using
Personal Oracle, or did they actually manage to guarantee consistency when
the tables are mutating in 8.1.6?  This is the trigger text I used:

 create or replace trigger bir_tableB
 before insert on tableB
 for each row
 declare
  cursor get_max_date is
   select max(create_date)
   from tableB;
  maxDate   date;
 begin
  open get_max_date;
  fetch get_max_date into maxDate;
  close get_max_date;

  if (:new.create_date  nvl(maxDate, :new.create_date)) then
   raise_application_error(-20101, 'New date must be greater
than any existing record.');
  end if;
 end bir_tableB;

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Please 

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In addition to my previous question:

supposed you cannot use Max(date), and MUST use the
cursor.  (may be my example is not a good one),
anyway, I'd like to know how to get around this
mutating problem.  Thank you!

--- Leslie Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I got ORA-04091: table mutating problem.  Here is
 the
 case: select from table A and insert them into table
 B.  A trigger is used to check that new DATE must be
 later than every DATE in B.  So I open an cursor,
 loop
 through cursor to compare new DATE value.

 If I tested using hard coded value, the trigger
 works;
 if do a insert ... select, I got ORA-04091.

 I looked through metalink, didn't see anything that
 can help.

 Thank you in advance.

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Re: images question

2001-05-04 Thread paquette stephane

For me it's more a question of performance than
fragmentation. 

At my last client (www.houra.fr), the images were
store at the OS level to speed up the showing of the
web pages and in Oracle so that each managers could
associate comments to the images. 


--- David A. Barbour [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
écrit :  Check out BLOBs.  They're stored externally.
 Can be
 tough to work with
 but also can be very worthwhile.
 
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 Casas, Claudia wrote:
  
  Do you recommend storing images in an oracle
 database or just storing the
  directory path to them instead. Somebody told me
 it would cause database
  fragmentation if I store images or binary data in
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RE: Getting ORA-01732 trying to insert into table (NOT view)

2001-05-04 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

Why would 0racle even consider the public synonym?  I thought this might be a 
materialized view, but I would expect to see an
undefined object type.

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Are you sure the public synonym isn't pointing to an object in some other database 
thru a link?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/03/01 04:55PM 
Why do I keep getting this error even though this object is not a view??? I am in as 
the owner of the table, which has the DBA role to boot.

SQL show user 
USER is FARS_OWNER 
SQL select owner, object_name, object_type from dba_objects where object_name like 
'%ALIASTYPE%'; 

OWNER OBJECT_NAME OBJECT_TYPE 
--- -- -- 
PUBLIC MFGALIASTYPE SYNONYM 
FARS_OWNER MFGALIASTYPE TABLE 
FARS_OWNER MFGALIASTYPE_VALUE_PK INDEX 

SQL select * from MFGALIASTYPE; 

VA I ATTRIBUTE PROMPTNAME SORTORDER 
-- - -- --- - 
T F SN Temic Accelerometer SN 30 
T SN Actual Serial Number 10 
A F SN Accelerometer SN 40 
C F SN Customer SN 20 
D F SN Daughter Board SN 60 
S F SN Sensor SN 50 

6 rows selected. 

SQL insert into MFGALIASTYPE values ('X', 'F', 'SN', 'Test', 80); 
insert into MFGALIASTYPE values ('X', 'F', 'SN', 'Test', 80) 
* 
ERROR at line 1: 
ORA-01732: data manipulation operation not legal on this view 

BTW, the synonym is for the table so other users can access it without adding the 
owner's name. I had already tried insert into FARS_OWNER.MFGALIASTYPE ... as well, 
but didn't include that here. 

Here's the table definition: 
CREATE TABLE FARS_OWNER.MFGALIASTYPE (VALUE VARCHAR2(2), 
ISDEFAULT VARCHAR2(1), ATTRIBUTE VARCHAR2(45), PROMPTNAME 
VARCHAR2(45) NOT NULL ENABLE, SORTORDER NUMBER(2, 0)) PCTFREE 10 
PCTUSED 40 INITRANS 1 MAXTRANS 255 LOGGING TABLESPACE TBL_TINY ; 

ALTER TABLE FARS_OWNER.MFGALIASTYPE ADD CONSTRAINT 
MFGALIASTYPE_VALUE_PK PRIMARY KEY (PROMPTNAME) USING INDEX 
PCTFREE 10 INITRANS 2 MAXTRANS 255 TABLESPACE USER_DATA ENABLE 
NOVALIDATE ; 

This is using 8.1.5 EE on NT 4 SP6a.

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Unique Constraint question

2001-05-04 Thread Curiel, David

I've scoured the docs and found nothing. My situation is this:

How do I set up a constraint on a table, where I want a unique combination
of fields, only when one of them equals a certain value?

For instance:

Col1 Col2
   --
N  1   = OK
N  0   = OK
N  0   = OK
N  1   = NOT OK

It obviously cannot be done through basic column constraints, since it is OK
to have multiple N,0 combinations.

My sense is that there would have to be a trigger to affect a query lookup
of the N,1 combination prior to insert.  However, I desparately want to
avoid that for performance reasons.

Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

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Oracle DBA needed in Lansing Michigan (jr-mid level)..

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Financial services company in Lansing, Michigan is looking for a jr-mid
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More oracle news from the ether.

2001-05-04 Thread Mohan, Ross

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4) NEWS: Clouds Over Oracle
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Oracle's executive vice president of North American 
sales, George Roberts, said at a technology conference in 
San Francisco recently that the sales outlook for Oracle 
remained cloudy. With the scheduled release of Oracle9i -
- the latest database version -- in May, Roberts was 
optimistic that Oracle's revenues should get a boost.

But analysts have recently raised concerns that Oracle is 
losing its hold on the database market, particularly to 
IBM.

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Re: How can I cut off a query after 3 lines?

2001-05-04 Thread Eric D. Pierce


UNTESTED, PLEASE VERIFY BEFORE USE:

---original message follows---
D a t e : Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:41:53 +0100
R e p l y - T o : ORACLE database mailing list. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
F r o m : Jones, David (Oxford) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
S u b j e c t : Can i write a query for this.

This utility gives top/bottom values for a specified column in a
specified table. If you need other columns you will need to adapt it a
little. I would not recommend it on large tables if the column is not
indexed. Whether indexed or not, you can almost certainly do it more
simply in PL/SQL (Define a cursor with order by, loop through n
times.?)

HTH.

rem ...
rem . Program Name: GIVEME.SQL
rem . Written by:   David Jones - January 1995
rem . Purpose:  Returns either:
rem .   - The top 'n' values for a column
rem .   - The bottom 'n' values for a column
rem .   - The 'nth' value for a column
rem .   - the 'nth lowest' value in a column
rem .   If the nth (or nth lowest) value is 'x',
rem .   all the records with a value of 'x' will be rem
.   returned.
rem . Called by:Any user
rem . Calls:nothing
rem . Tables:   as specified in input variable 4
rem . Syntax:   The following are all valid:
rem . GIVEME 6 topcolumn_name table_name
rem . GIVEME 6 bottom column_name table_name
rem .
rem . GIVEME 1 st column_name table_name
rem . GIVEME 2 nd column_name table_name
rem . GIVEME 3 rd column_name table_name
rem . GIVEME 4 th column_name table_name
rem .etc..
rem . GIVEME 1 stlast column_name table_name
rem . GIVEME 2 ndlast column_name table_name
rem . GIVEME 3 rdlast column_name table_name
rem . GIVEME 4 thlast column_name table_name
rem .etc..
rem .(can abbreviate bottom to bot, stlast to stl,
rem . ndlast to ndl etc.)
rem 

set pages 96
set lines 110
set hea off
set verify off
set termout off

col head new_v head
col topbot   new_v topbot
col allorone new_v allorone
col maxormin new_v maxormin
col bracket  new_v bracket

select decode(upper(substr(ltrim(rtrim('2')),3,1)),
  'P', '',
  '',  '',
  'T', '',
  'L', '',
   '') topbot,
   decode(upper(substr(ltrim(rtrim('2')),3,1)),
  'P', '',
  'T', '',
  'L', 'max(',
  '',  'min(',
   '' ) maxormin,
   decode(upper(substr(ltrim(rtrim('2')),3,1)),
  'P', '',
  'T', '',
  'L', ')',
  '',  ')',
   '' ) bracket
from sys.dual
/

select 'The '||'1'||' '||'2'||' value'||
   decode(upper(substr( '2' ,2,1)), 'O', 's', '')||
   ' for '||upper( '3' )||' in '||upper( '4' ) head
from dual
/

spool giveme
prompt head
prompt

select maxormin a.3 bracket
from 4 a
where exists
(select 'How many are bigger/smaller than me?'
 from 4 b
 where b.3 topbot a.3
 having count(*)  1 )
order by 1 desc
/

spool off
set verify on
set termout on
set hea on
undef head
undef topbot
undef allorone
undef maxormin
undef bracket
clear columns
_
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RE: How can I cut off a query after 3 lines?

2001-05-04 Thread Sunil_Nookala

where rownum 4

Sunil Nookala
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Q: how can you specify with a select statement how many rows are given as a
result? I would only like to get the first three lines.

here is what I have


1  SELECT machine_name, login, Count(login) AS CountOfLogin FROM
login_history
  2  group by machine_name, login
  3* order by count(login) desc
  4  ;

MACHINE_NAME LOGIN  COUNTOFLOGIN
 -- 
mochaJeff  3
reeses   Paul  3
spiceTamara3
mochaRudy  2
reeses   Jeff  1
reeses   Ravie 1
reeses   Tonya 1
spiceRudy  1

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multiple schema in a database ???

2001-05-04 Thread Andrea Oracle

Hi all,

We'll have a meeting about the following issue:

Due to large amount of transactions each trainee has,
the existing training database in Sybase used multiple
databases to handle each trainee's transactions.   To
implement this in Oracle, we may need to create
multiple schemas in one Oracle database, instead of
creating multiple Oracle databases.  Let's investigate
the impact of having multiple schema in a database.


Looks like Public synonym needs to be get rid off. Any
other idea about the impact of having multiple schema?

And is there an easy way to create a schema which is
identical to another one?

Thank you.  

Andrea

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Re: ORA-04091: table mutating problem?

2001-05-04 Thread Connor McDonald

Mutating simply means you're trying to access the
table that you're trigger is currently firing on (in a
row level trigger).

The basic workaround is typically...

before-statement-level
- initialise a PL/SQL table

before-row-level
- store information you need in the PL/SQL table, eg
rowid's of rows being inserted

after-statement-level
- loop thru the PL/SQL table and take any action you
need to do

hth
connor

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 the
 case: select from table A and insert them into table
 B.  A trigger is used to check that new DATE must be
 later than every DATE in B.  So I open an cursor,
 loop
 through cursor to compare new DATE value.
 
 If I tested using hard coded value, the trigger
 works;
 if do a insert ... select, I got ORA-04091.
 
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MTS Problem

2001-05-04 Thread Muhammed Adnan Ansari

I am configuring multithreaded server configuration of
an WIN2000 Advanced server with Oracle 8i Rel3 EE.

All the parameter are set accurately and checked the
MTS configuration through loopback and see connection
entries in v$circuit accordinglybut when we
connect through some other PC it does'nt
worked.infact the other client get 'Target host or
object does not exists' error.

when i checked the listener.log file at the server it
has the entries for those bad connection request as
'connection established'.

socan any body tell me what's the problem going
on.


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Re: FW: standby database in managed recovery mode

2001-05-04 Thread Jyoti Randive

Check the size of the archive log which it complains on primary.I have seen situation when the log has transmitted partially and the recovery comes to a standstill.
After getting all the archives properly, run a 
recover automatic standby database;
then try to put it in managed recovery mode.
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RE: rename indexes

2001-05-04 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

Couldn't you just drop and rebuild the index with a new name?

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When I create tables with primary keys, Oracle gives the indexes a default
name.

Can I rename these indexes with meaningful names, or do I need to drop and
recreate my tables, amending create table statements to explicitly name the
indexes?

John

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RE: Unique Constraint question

2001-05-04 Thread Hillman, Alex

You should use table level check constraint. See docs.

Alex Hiilman

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I've scoured the docs and found nothing. My situation is this:

How do I set up a constraint on a table, where I want a unique combination
of fields, only when one of them equals a certain value?

For instance:

Col1 Col2
   --
N  1   = OK
N  0   = OK
N  0   = OK
N  1   = NOT OK

It obviously cannot be done through basic column constraints, since it is OK
to have multiple N,0 combinations.

My sense is that there would have to be a trigger to affect a query lookup
of the N,1 combination prior to insert.  However, I desparately want to
avoid that for performance reasons.

Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

David Curiel
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RE: Removing Oracle products from NT

2001-05-04 Thread Hillman, Alex



You 
wouldn't trigger long discussions :-) if you mention thatremoval 
ofservices is done deleting these services from registry from 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services and from 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSetxxx\Services

Alex 
Hillman

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  Removing Oracle products from NT
  
  You can try the Oracle universal Installer to unistall. 
  More rough way is to shutdown oracle db,listener, etc. , shutdown the 
  services, remove/disbale the services.
  ..and then go to registry and remove everything under 
  (local_machine-software -oracle)
  Then you can delete the whole Oracle home tree. The reinstall or whatever 
  you want to do!
  Believe me , sometimes windows Oracle is a pain,specially cleaing up for a 
  reinstall. But after all we are Unix guys! Just the beat the .. out of 
  windows! 
  Hope I do not trigger another long discussion here! :-)
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RE: 9iAS Forms Server Stability

2001-05-04 Thread elkinsl

Jenny,

Just to make sure we are on the same page, when I was talking about web
deployed, I was talking strictly internal networks, lan, wan, etc using the
web forms approach.

Anyway, I don't know that you should nervous based on just my comments
alone. It is kind of interesting, though, that no one has chimed in saying
things work great. And from what I understand, it was a pretty difficult
install for them with a lot of hiccups, restarts, and missteps along the
way. And at the same time, there is a lot of other tweaking and stuff going
on with the test box.

That's why they are looking to do a clean install on another machine, one on
which nothing else is begin done. There are so many things that could be
playing a role in the current instability they are seeing. Today, for
example, I don't think it ever went down. They've still got a full 2 months
before going live and getting things smoothed out.

I've now been pulled over to the operations side to help, with my role being
primarily focused on using native IE instead of Jinitiator. And frankly, I
don't know what I am doing -- I have no experience with this. They just want
another body to throw at it. I can read the install manuals, Metalink and
Technet doc's, etc. I run 9iAS 1.0.2 with Forms 6i and native mode = IE here
on my home machine (Win2K), but, that's a far cry from a real production
environment. And it took a good 3 days to get everything working with each
other.

I guess I will be spending a lot of time on Metalink this weekend looking
for potential pitfalls. They have already opened a TAR to get answers to
certain questions regarding using IE's native JVM instead of JInitiator. And
I've already come across stuff indicating that certain MS patches/upgrades
still might need to applied. And their hope is to not have the users, or
local techs, have to do anything. We will see.

Regards,

Larry G. Elkins
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 I have persuaded my manager to go with 9iAS to deploy dev2k forms on the
 web. We have dev2k client/server applications and 8.1.6 database
 but we've
 never deployed forms on the web - except for webdb stuff. It is pretty
 urgent to have an application in place. From your comments I am not sure
 whether I have made the right choice. (my manager was thinking of a
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RE: 9iAS Forms Server Stability

2001-05-04 Thread elkinsl

Jared,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I don't know if they are working on any
contingency plans, but, I guess they could stay on OAS and Forms 5.0 if
things don't stabilize. I'm hoping that it is just a little configuration
issue here, a tweak there, and so on. We will see -- they don't plan to go
live for another 2 months so there is time to still work through issues.

They've been bitten by a few packages that wouldn't compile under 8.1.7 that
worked fine in 7.3.5. I've been able to work through those issues. And we've
seen some other strange things, both DB side and Forms side (especially
window sizing going bonkers). But, the only real issue that I have seen so
far is a bit of instability with the Forms server component.

Regards,

Larry G. Elkins
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 Larry, I haven't worked with 9iAS yet, but have set up the previous
 version of iAS on Solaris with Forms 6i.

 This also uses the Apache server,  Jakarta, etc, and we did not
 experience the problems that you are.

 Could be that 9iAS is still a bit on the bleeding edge.  :)

 Also, I was using the CGI method.

 Jared

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