RE: Imedia query tuning

2001-05-17 Thread Henrik Ekenberg
Title: RE: Imedia query tuning



Hello,
Thanks 
Lisa for your comment but.

I try 
to always use an index hint to return the rows in the required 
order. This avoids a sort
if 
it's possible to use an index which can avoid both sort and table access - and 
it often won't be possible - the this index will offer good performance both for 
retrieval of all rows and the retreival of the first row.


Ranganath : What is the name of your index on 
editor_choice ?

Regards
Henrik

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: den 16 maj 2001 16:37To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Imedia query 
  tuning
  Henrik, FYI 
  The ordered hint refers to the order in which the tables are 
  accessed in the query. It has nothing to do with an index. 
   Lisa Rutland Koivu 
  Oracle Database Administrator Certified Self-Important Database Deity Slayer 
  of Unix Administrators Wanton Kickboxing 
  Goddess 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  NeoMedia  
  2201 Second St., Suite 600 Fort 
  Myers, FL 33901, USA Phone: 941-337-3434 
  Fax: 941-337-3668 www.neom.com http://www.neom.com 
  www.paperclick.com http://www.paperclick.com www.qode.com http://www.qode.com  P a p e r C l i c k . c o m http://www.paperclick.com/home.htm  
  Enter Your PaperClick Code Here!   
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  Henrik Ekenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 8:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Imedia query tuning 
  Hello, 
  I'm not a guru : I just try to help you. :- 
  Hint for Query 2 : Have you try to 
  hint so you run on the editor_choice index. If it works. Can you remove the Order command. Because the index is 
  already ordered. 
  Regards Henrik E. 
  On Wed, 16 May 2001, Ranganath K wrote: 
   Dear DBA Gurus,  
I have the following two 
  queries along with execution plan and statistics.  
  The first one is taking a long time to execute. The second query is 
  taking  a long time to execute when I use the 
  order by clause. Is there any way I  can 
  reduce the execution time as these queries will be used by a search 
   engine? Any help in this regard will be greatly 
  appreciated.   SQL 
  select depth, count(*) a from category, site  2 where (site.fk_category in (select 
  pk_category_id from category  3 
  where category.status = 0)) and site.status = 0  4 and ((contains (title,'box')  0) or 
   5 (contains (description, 'box')  
  0))  6 and pk_category_id = 
  fk_category group by depth order by a desc;   467 rows selected.   Elapsed: 00:00:16.43   Execution Plan  -- 
   0 SELECT 
  STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=214936 Card=22470 By  
  tes=136572660)   1 0 SORT (ORDER 
  BY) (Cost=214936 Card=22470 Bytes=136572660)  2 1 
  SORT (GROUP BY) (Cost=214936 Card=22470 Bytes=136572660)  3 
  2 NESTED LOOPS (Cost=19 Card=22470 
  Bytes=136572660)  
  4 3 NESTED 
  LOOPS (Cost=4 Card=15 Bytes=60945)  5 
  4 TABLE ACCESS (BY 
  INDEX ROWID) OF 'SITE' (Cost=2 Ca  rd=1 
  Bytes=4037)   6 
  5 
  BITMAP CONVERSION (TO ROWIDS)  
  7 
  6 
  BITMAP OR  8 
  7 
  BITMAP CONVERSION (FROM ROWIDS)  
  9 
  8 
  SORT (ORDER BY)  10 
  9 
  DOMAIN INDEX OF 'SITE2TITLEIDEX' (Cost=1  
  )   
  11 
  7 
  BITMAP CONVERSION (FROM ROWIDS)  
  12 
  11 
  SORT (ORDER BY)  13 
  12 
  DOMAIN INDEX OF 'SITE1DESCIDX' (Cost=1)  14 
  4 TABLE ACCESS (BY 
  INDEX ROWID) OF 'CATEGORY' (Cost=  1 
  Card=1499 Bytes=38974)   15 
  14 
  INDEX (UNIQUE SCAN) OF 'SYS_C001314' (UNIQUE)  16 
  3 TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX 
  ROWID) OF 'CATEGORY' (Cost=1  
  Card=149802 Bytes=301851030)   17 
  16 INDEX (UNIQUE 
  SCAN) OF 'SYS_C001314' (UNIQUE)   Statistics  
  --  786 
  recursive calls  40 db 
  block gets  5919 consistent 
  gets  
  1389 physical reads  
  0 redo size  
  1829532 bytes sent via SQL*Net to client  69737 bytes received via 
  SQL*Net from client  920 SQL*Net 
  roundtrips to/from client  13 
  sorts (memory)  
  0 sorts (disk)  467 rows 
  processed   SQL 
  select depth, title, description, url, editor_choice from category,site 
   2 where (site.fk_category in (select 
  pk_category_id from category  3 
  where category.status = 0)) and site.status = 0  4 and site.fk_category = 
  category.pk_category_id  5 and 
  ((contains (title, 'box')  0) or  
  6 (contains (description, 'box' )  0)) order by editor_choice 
  desc;   552 rows 
  selected.   Elapsed: 
  00:00:16.94   
  Execution Plan  
  --  0 SELECT STATEMENT 
  Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=142941 Card=22470 By  
  tes=181714890)   1 0 SORT (ORDER 
  BY) (Cost=142941 Card=22470 Bytes=181714890)  2 1 
  NESTED LOOPS (Cost=19 Card=22470 Bytes=181714890)  3 
  2 NESTED LOOPS (Cost=4 Card=15 
  Bytes=91080)  
  4 3 TABLE 
  ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'SITE' (Cost=2 Card  =1 
  Bytes=6046)   5 
  4 BITMAP 
  CONVERSION 

SQL loader query

2001-05-17 Thread pierre . olaru

Friends,

I have the classic case of a comma separated text file which I want to upload 
and I need to know how can I enforce the following behavior of the SQL Loader:

1. To ignore the first row of the data file (which contains the column titles)

2. Avoid uploading of a column from the middle of the data file

Thanks in advance,
Pierre

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RE: STOP this THREAD: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

I disagree. Some of this information may be very useful for people thinking
of going to work in Saudi Arabia. The only way it will trigger flames is if
someone takes it upon themselves to have a sly crack at the culture over
there.

However we are all way too professional to do something like that
. :-)


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Discussing this here will not add any value except triggering flames.
 
Please send directly to the person email address.
 
Regards,
 
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Re: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz

thank you john,
bunyamin
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Bunyamin,

Conditions cut both ways - depends on how you see it... Loss of religious,
social and cultural freedom against the possibility of earning (and saving
because you can't spend) lots of $$. Having said that, as long as you stick
to the straight and narrow path (as defined by the Saudi authorities) you
will be on the safest place on earth as far as crime goes. (E.g. stealing is
punishable by cutting off your arm/fingers!!) Also, women cannot drive, and
have to cover themselves *fully* (not hair alone) in public places. And no
public eating/drinking of liquids in public places during the Holy month of
Ramadan.

There are some who just love it and there are some can't just get enough -
there are all kinds in this world.

John Kanagaraj

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Hi all ,
I have taken an offer from a company in Europe to work in Saudi Arabia for 2
years.
But I must learn the living conditions there.
Ýf there is an Arabian here , can you answer these..

1) How are the living conditions?Expensive?
2) Will my wife have to cover her hair? Is it mandatory there?
3) How are the social activities like cinema?
  Thanks.


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RE: newbie question

2001-05-17 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Yep, I've done it before without any problems



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Thank you so much for the info, DC.

I have another stupid question. Can I have two different ports for two
database in the same tnsname.ora on the same server?

Cheers,
Julia  



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Hi,
Yes, you can modify instance parameters in the initXYZ.ora file.
 After you change them, they take effect when you bounce the instance
(shutdown and startup)

 Also, there are some parameters that can be modify on the fly, without
bouncing the instance.

check this.

SQL desc v$parameter
 NameNull?Type
 ---  
 NUM  NUMBER
 NAME VARCHAR2(64)
 TYPE NUMBER
 VALUEVARCHAR2(512)
 ISDEFAULTVARCHAR2(9)
 ISSES_MODIFIABLE VARCHAR2(5)
 ISSYS_MODIFIABLE VARCHAR2(9)
 ISMODIFIED   VARCHAR2(10)
 ISADJUSTED   VARCHAR2(5)
 DESCRIPTION  VARCHAR2(64)

SQL column name format a60
SQL column value format a20
SQL column ISSYS_MODIFIABLE format a6
SQL select name,value,ISSYS_MODIFIABLE from v$parameter;


NAME VALUE
ISSYS_
 ---
- --
processes50
FALSE
sessions 60
FALSE
timed_statistics TRUE
IMMEDIATE---

You can change timed_statistics value with this command:

alter system set timed_statistics=true;


Hope it helps
DC


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 Hi, guru,

 After I created a XYZ database using the Database Configuration Assistant,
 can I modify some parameters in the initXYZ.ora file? What steps should I
 take after the modification? Please advise.

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Re: SQL loader query

2001-05-17 Thread Saurabh Sharma

you can use the skip option of the sql loader. in ur case it should be
skip=1(if headings are also separated by commas)
can have the full help by typing sqlldr help=y at the command prompt.

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 Friends,

 I have the classic case of a comma separated text file which I want to
upload
 and I need to know how can I enforce the following behavior of the SQL
Loader:

 1. To ignore the first row of the data file (which contains the column
titles)

 2. Avoid uploading of a column from the middle of the data file

 Thanks in advance,
 Pierre

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index FS vs index FFS - what's the difference ?

2001-05-17 Thread Shevtsov, Eduard

Hi List,

I've made two corresponding dumps and ... I must admit I have much less
understanding than I had before.
Please look at them.

=
PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=68 dep=0 uid=32 oct=3 lid=32 tim=219058914
hv=168660475 ad='aa69f79c'
select /*+ INDEX(documents pk_documents) */ count(*)
from documents
END OF STMT
PARSE #1:c=12,e=29,p=27,cr=322,cu=6,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219058914
EXEC #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219058914
WAIT #1: nam='SQL*Net message to client' ela= 0 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #1: nam='file open' ela= 0 p1=0 p2=0 p3=0
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=108810 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=109485 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=108811 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=108812 p3=11
[skip]

WAIT #1: nam='db file parallel read' ela= 1 p1=1 p2=11 p3=11
WAIT #1: nam='db file parallel read' ela= 0 p1=1 p2=11 p3=11

[skip]

WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=109472 p3=11
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=109483 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=109486 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file parallel read' ela= 0 p1=1 p2=11 p3=11

=
PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=72 dep=0 uid=32 oct=3 lid=32 tim=219108177
hv=3669603672 ad='aa6a4f84'
select /*+ INDEX_FFS(documents pk_documents) */
count(*)
from documents
END OF STMT
PARSE #1:c=11,e=13,p=27,cr=322,cu=6,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219108177
EXEC #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219108177
WAIT #1: nam='SQL*Net message to client' ela= 0 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #1: nam='file open' ela= 0 p1=0 p2=0 p3=0
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=108809 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 2 p1=22 p2=108810 p3=8
WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=108818 p3=8

[skip, all next lines are the same]

My questions are

1. Why I get 'db file scattered read' waits for index full scan ?
2. Why p3 for this event is 11 even though my db_file_multiblock_read_count
= 8 ?
3. What does mean 'db file parallel read' event? 

Anjo Kolk's paper doesn't describe it (guess the wait is Oracle8-specific).
Oracle 8i Reference says:

blockquote This happens during recovery. Database blocks that need to be
changed as 
part of recovery are read in parallel from the database./blockquote

But it seems not my case.

4. Finally, what is the difference between the two index paths in that case
?

I'm on 8.1.7.0 Solaris, file-based system, LMT


Thanks in advance,
Ed
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Re: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz

Thank you all gurus,
   Here there are a lot of professionals working world wide.And This is a
good thing to ask directly to people who lived the experience.
   Yes this is a mail list but I guarantee  if somebody want to relocate in
Turkey , I will help him/her to learn quicker about the conditions.These
questions are not waste of time , more important than an Export question or
a query tuning question. These are my ideas.
  And again thanks to all who replied my questions and who are troubled of
my questions..

 bunyamin

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thank you john,
bunyamin
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Bunyamin,

Conditions cut both ways - depends on how you see it... Loss of religious,
social and cultural freedom against the possibility of earning (and saving
because you can't spend) lots of $$. Having said that, as long as you stick
to the straight and narrow path (as defined by the Saudi authorities) you
will be on the safest place on earth as far as crime goes. (E.g. stealing is
punishable by cutting off your arm/fingers!!) Also, women cannot drive, and
have to cover themselves *fully* (not hair alone) in public places. And no
public eating/drinking of liquids in public places during the Holy month of
Ramadan.

There are some who just love it and there are some can't just get enough -
there are all kinds in this world.

John Kanagaraj

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Hi all ,
I have taken an offer from a company in Europe to work in Saudi Arabia for 2
years.
But I must learn the living conditions there.
Ýf there is an Arabian here , can you answer these..

1) How are the living conditions?Expensive?
2) Will my wife have to cover her hair? Is it mandatory there?
3) How are the social activities like cinema?
  Thanks.


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Decode in PL/Sql

2001-05-17 Thread Andor, Gyula

Hi Gurus !


Is there any function that can be used in PL/SQL and  just works the way as
DECODE does in Sql?

Thanks in Advance

Gyula
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Re: enqueue waits -- CI

2001-05-17 Thread Jeffery W

Hi Diego,

 If lock type is 'TX',  rollback segment number = trunc(p2/65536)
 and slot number = p2 - 65536*trunc(p2/65536).

 May I know which table you are looking at to get the following
detailed info about enqueue waits?

 Enqueue Stats
--
TY  GETS WAITS
-- - -
CF68 0
CI 1117884
CU 1797012
DL   109 0
DR   102 0
DX  6219 0
IS72 0
MR   140 0
RT 1 0
SQ  2472 5
SS 1 0
ST  320734
TM278918 5
TS  4655 0
TX21005757
UL  3500 0
US 30496 0
WL10 0

18 rows selected.

 Thanks

 Jeffery



Diego Cutrone wrote:

 Thanks for answering Unal, John.

 John, you were right about the query. I've corrected it. And I'm not getting
 T[ and CK anymore,now I get TX and CI.
 I've also done further investigation and I also know now what p2 and p3
 mean.

 This is the updated data: (from the dumps)
 
 count TYPE  MODE
  13  CI  6  p2=0 p3=5 ela=0
   19 TX 6 p2=262223 p3=53352 ela=301
   75 TX 4 p2=524391 p3=50022 ela=301
   75 TX 6 p2=720923 p3=5194 ela=301
  104TX 6 p2=196736 p3=52393 ela=301
  305TX 6 p2=393276 p3=50281 ela=301
 

 Now, how can I get the rollback segment number involved in the TX ? (I know
 its from p2 and p3, but how?) --just curious. I'll also take John advise,
 and I'll try to identify the locking session(s).

 Now, although CI enqueue waits (cross instance call invocation) are brief on
 this sample, Sometimes it's not.
 So I'm trying to understand what it means. According to p2 and p3 flags,
 they are indicating Flush buffers for reuse as new class, that means that
 a session needs a buffer (in the shared pool I think) and it has to flush
 some others in order to get space. am I correct?.
 I've also read a metalink document (1020355.102). According to this, one
 possible cause is that my application is using dbms_pipe extensively (it may
 be right, I've seen event pipe get very high). The suggested solution is
 to increase the shared_pool. I can't access the other documents mentioned
 in the paper.

 Can someone explain to me what means this CI enqueue and how can I reduce
 it.
 TIA

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  Hi Diego,
 
  Without going into details, an 'enqueue' wait is mostly due to a
  user/program initated transaction lock and I see it a lot in Financial
  databases (I see you are on 10.7?). I deduce you were looking at
  V$SYSTEM_EVENT - If a user locked one row (probably queried a row in
 Forms,
  inadvertly changed one character which issues a 'SELECT for UPDATE, thus
  locking that row) and anotehr user (through a form or a report) needs to
  perform DML on that particular row, then (I believe) you will clock up
 time
  against the 'enqueue' event.
 
  What I would suggest is that you use the following query to determine if
  someone is locking someone else out:
 
  select event, count(*) from v$session_wait
  group by event
 
  If you see the 'enqueue' event in this list, some process is probably
  waiting on a lock... You can then trace the user/process via Lock
 detection
  scripts (see Metablink) and kill the blocking process. You could also
 query
  from sys.dba_waiters which will present an easier picture in this case..
 
  As far as the SQL goes, see below:
 
   select
  chr(bitand(p1,-16777216)/16777215)||chr(bitand(p1,16711680)/63365)
  Lock,   - I believe the value is '65535', rather than 63365)
   to_char(bitand(p1,65535)) Mode
   from dual
 
  You can learn a lot from the Oracle 8.1 Reference Manual - Appendix A.
  Oracle Wait Events and App B Oracle Enqueue Names. While they are
  applicable for 8.1, most of the info is valid for 7.3 as well...
 
  Please let us know if you need additional info.
 
 
  John Kanagaraj (A long time member of  the Always look at v$session_wait
  first camp)
  Oracle Applications DBA
  Hitach Data Systems, Santa Clara
  Work : (408) 970 7002
 
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  Hi List,
 
  I'm trying to identify the possible cause of contention in a database:
 
  Oracle 7.3.4.0.0 // HP-UX 10.20 // FINANCIALS
 
  As far I can see, event enqueue is on top (followed by some buffer busy
  waits)
 
  EVENT  TIME_WAITED  AVERAGE_WAIT
  
  enqueue 854176 3746.39 (why is the
  average wait so high?)
  buffer busy waits 292770  1.53
 
  Enqueue Stats
  

RE: SQL loader query

2001-05-17 Thread Mark Leith

Could you not simply open the .csv file and manually delete the first row?

As for your second question, I believe you can just not mention the column
you want to leave out in the control file.

HTH

Mark

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Friends,

I have the classic case of a comma separated text file which I want to
upload
and I need to know how can I enforce the following behavior of the SQL
Loader:

1. To ignore the first row of the data file (which contains the column
titles)

2. Avoid uploading of a column from the middle of the data file

Thanks in advance,
Pierre

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RE: STOP this THREAD: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Martin Kendall

Hey Lee...just don't go there man (oops, I didn't mean don't go THERE,
I meant don't discuss it.arghh now I'm in trouble :-) )

Martin

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I disagree. Some of this information may be very useful for people thinking
of going to work in Saudi Arabia. The only way it will trigger flames is if
someone takes it upon themselves to have a sly crack at the culture over
there.

However we are all way too professional to do something like that
. :-)


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Discussing this here will not add any value except triggering flames.
 
Please send directly to the person email address.
 
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RE: SQL loader query

2001-05-17 Thread FOX, Simon

In a recent mail on a similar topic someone said that in 8i there is a
FILLER field in SQL*Loader that allows you to jump over a column.  Prior to
8i you are stuck.

I have been recommended a brand new book on SQL*Loader.  Not yet bought or
read it.

Jonathan Gennick  Sanjay Mishra 
O'Reilly  Associates 

It is available in the States but not yet in the UK.  e.g. Amazon.com

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you can use the skip option of the sql loader. in ur case it should be
skip=1(if headings are also separated by commas)
can have the full help by typing sqlldr help=y at the command prompt.

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 Friends,

 I have the classic case of a comma separated text file which I want to
upload
 and I need to know how can I enforce the following behavior of the SQL
Loader:

 1. To ignore the first row of the data file (which contains the column
titles)

 2. Avoid uploading of a column from the middle of the data file

 Thanks in advance,
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RE: How to make DBA cannot 'see' User's Tables?

2001-05-17 Thread Connor McDonald

Similarly the input text length needs to be a multiple
of 8 - a sample of how to do this is on my site
somewhere (see sig)

hth
connor

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 -- Anita
 
 --- Ahmadsyah Algozhi Nugroho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I'm using Oracle 8.1.7.
  there was an error 
  ERROR at line 1:
  ORA-28232: invalid input length for obfuscation
  toolkit
  ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT_FFI,
  line 0
  ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT, line
  33
  ORA-06512: at SCOTT.IAO_PROTECT, line 15
  ORA-06512: at line 1
  
  I check thath my key and my input string is
  varchar12(10).
  Key = 0123456789
  input string = 'testtestte'
  
  dbms_obfuscation_toolkit.desencrypt (
  input_string = 'testtestte'
  , key_string = '1234567890'
  , encrypted_string = vEncrypted
  );
  Am I forget something?
  
  TIA,
  
  
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   You can encrypt  Decrypt data using the 
   DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT package
   (comes with 8.1.6)
   
   Srinagesh What do I know any way Battula
   
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Data Encryption?

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Dear gurus, 
How to make DBA cannot 'see' user's datas? 
I build an application which very important
 and
  top secret 
even DBA cannot
'see' this data. But DBA can backup this
  data.What is the 
solution for this
problem?

TIA, 


Ahmadsyah Alghozi Nugroho 
Database Engineering Specialist 
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RE: Decode in PL/Sql

2001-05-17 Thread FOX, Simon

Feuerstein recommends replacing with IF statements.  Page 517 Oracle PL/SLQ
Programming.

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Hi Gurus !


Is there any function that can be used in PL/SQL and  just works the way as
DECODE does in Sql?

Thanks in Advance

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RE: How to make DBA cannot 'see' User's Tables?

2001-05-17 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I think they may have changed that last year, didn't the Clinton
Administration approve a bill re this?

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)


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You can encrypt using only a 56-bit key (the key
length limitation is a requirement of US regulations
governing the export of cryptographic products).

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Ahmadsyah Algozhi Nugroho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I'm using Oracle 8.1.7.
 there was an error 
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-28232: invalid input length for obfuscation
 toolkit
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT_FFI,
 line 0
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT, line
 33
 ORA-06512: at SCOTT.IAO_PROTECT, line 15
 ORA-06512: at line 1
 
 I check thath my key and my input string is
 varchar12(10).
 Key = 0123456789
 input string = 'testtestte'
 
 dbms_obfuscation_toolkit.desencrypt (
   input_string = 'testtestte'
   , key_string = '1234567890'
   , encrypted_string = vEncrypted
   );
 Am I forget something?
 
 TIA,
 
 
 Ahmadsyah Alghozi Nugroho
 Database Engineering Specialist
 PT Infoglobal AutOptima
 Jl. Baruk Tengah I/49
 Surabaya - Jawa Timur
 phone : +62 (31) 8708456 ext.113
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 Tables?
  
  
  
  You can encrypt  Decrypt data using the 
  DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT package
  (comes with 8.1.6)
  
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   Dear gurus, 
   How to make DBA cannot 'see' user's datas? 
   I build an application which very important and
 top secret 
   even DBA cannot
   'see' this data. But DBA can backup this
 data.What is the 
   solution for this
   problem?
   
   TIA, 
   
   
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   Jl. Baruk Tengah I/49 
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RE: Script to remove redundant rows in a table?

2001-05-17 Thread Hatzistavrou Giannis

there is also the case of trying to enable a unique constraint on the
underlying table using the exeption option and creating an exception
table(utlexcpt.sql). The unique constraint will of caurse fail but inside
the exeption table the duplicate rowids will be written . Using this input
you can delete from table the duplicates.

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 Subject:  Script to remove redundant rows in a table?
 
 A few months ago I remember seeing a script that enabled the removal of
 redundant rows in a table. Can someone please forward or point me to such
 a
 script. 
 
 I have an Oracle Names server that stores the database connect descriptors
 in a table within the Region Database. I've loaded these connect
 descriptors
 from many SQLNET.ora files throughout the enterprise. My problem is that
 there exists duplicates from the multiple SQLNET.ora files. I really want
 to
 clean this up so that only one entry per connect descriptor exists. I
 think
 that a generic script for any table will work in this situation. 
 
 Thanks, 
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 Oracle DBA
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RE: unhandled user-defined exception

2001-05-17 Thread Venugopal, R (GEP, Contractor)
Title: unhandled user-defined exception




  I am attaching the source 
  code of the trigger ,Please let me know where I made mistake 
  .Thanks..
  
  
  Venu
  
  -Original Message-From: Venugopal, R (GEP, 
  Contractor) Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:25 PMTo: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: unhandled user-defined 
  exception 
  Hi Gurus   I am getting the error attached below when trigger fires. 
  what could be the reasons for this error. 
   DB error: ORA-06510: 
  PL/SQL: unhandled user-defined exception   Thanks in 
  Advance Venu  



CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER dcs20.ESS_ORACLE_CUST_TRG1
BEFORE UPDATE OF NAME1, NAME2, KILLDATE, CUVATCD, USERDEFCOLUMN1, OFICUSTPROFCLASS, 
STREET1, STREET2, STREET3, CITY, USSTATECD, COUNTRYCD, ZIPCODE, TERMSPAY, COMPID ON  
EHDA.CUSTBILL
FOR EACH ROW
WHEN ((NEW.COMPNO = 17 OR NEW.COMPNO = 18) AND NEW.COMPID IS NOT NULL)
DECLARE

  var_extraction_dateVARCHAR2(17);
  TTYPE   VARCHAR2(10);
  CREDIT_FLG  ehda.A_ARCREDITPROF.ORDMANREL%TYPE;
  COLLECTOR   ehda.A_ARCREDITPROF.EMPLOYNO%TYPE;
  CREDIT_LMT  ehda.A_ARCREDITPROF.CREDLIM%TYPE;
  DUMMY   NUMBER(6);

  err_file_dir_GC  VARCHAR2(50):='/sngesstst/appl/dcs20/err/GC';
  err_file_dir_SEA  VARCHAR2(50):='/sngesstst/appl/dcs20/err/SEA';
  err_file_name_gl_GC  VARCHAR2(300) ;
  err_file_name_gl_SEA  VARCHAR2(300) ;
  err_file_h_GC  UTL_FILE.FILE_TYPE ;
  err_file_h_SEA UTL_FILE.FILE_TYPE ;

  var_count  NUMBER;
  l_o_err_numNUMBER:=0;
  l_n_err_numNUMBER:=0 ;
  l_s_err_msgVARCHAR2(500):=' ';
  l_s_err_string VARCHAR2(300);
  v_rec_countNUMBER;

BEGIN

  /* Record trigger date */
  SELECT
  TO_CHAR(SYSDATE,'MMDDHH24MIS')
  INTO var_extraction_date
  FROM dual;



  SELECT   ORDMANREL, EMPLOYNO, CREDLIM INTO CREDIT_FLG, COLLECTOR, CREDIT_LMT
FROM   ehda.A_ARCREDITPROF
WHERE  COMPNO = :NEW.COMPNO
ANDORGUNITGRP = 'CR'
ANDCUSTNOBILL = :NEW.CUSTNOBILL;


END IF;

EXCEPTION

  WHEN OTHERS THEN

 IF (:NEW.COMPNO='17') THEN

  /* opening the error file for writing - GC*/
 
  
 
err_file_name_gl_GC:='trigger_error_gc_ess_oracle_cust_trg1.'||var_extraction_date;
 err_file_h_GC := UTL_FILE.FOPEN(err_file_dir_GC, err_file_name_gl_GC, 'w') ;

dbms_output.put_line('Very First Exception');

 UTL_FILE.PUT_LINE(err_file_h_GC, RPAD('*', 80, '*' ));
 UTL_FILE.PUT_LINE(err_file_h_GC,'CUSTOMER RETURNS (GL) TRIGGER fired AT : 
'||TO_CHAR(SYSDATE, 'DD/MM/ HH:MI:SS'));
 UTL_FILE.PUT_LINE(err_file_h_GC, RPAD('*', 80, '*' ));


 l_o_err_num := TO_NUMBER(SQLCODE) ;
 l_s_err_msg := SUBSTR(SQLERRM,1,100) ;
 
dbms_output.put_line('First Exception');

 UTL_FILE.PUT_LINE(err_file_h_GC,l_o_err_num||':'||l_s_err_msg) ;
 UTL_FILE.FCLOSE(err_file_h_GC);
 END IF;

 IF (:NEW.COMPNO='18') THEN

   /* opening the error file for writing - SEA*/


err_file_name_gl_SEA:='trigger_error_sea_ess_oracle_cust_trg1.'||var_extraction_date;
err_file_h_SEA := UTL_FILE.FOPEN(err_file_dir_SEA, err_file_name_gl_SEA, 'w') ;

UTL_FILE.PUT_LINE(err_file_h_SEA, RPAD('*', 80, '*' ));
UTL_FILE.PUT_LINE(err_file_h_SEA,'CUSTOMER RETURNS (GL) TRIGGER fired AT : 
'||TO_CHAR(SYSDATE, 'DD/MM/ HH:MI:SS'));
UTL_FILE.PUT_LINE(err_file_h_SEA, RPAD('*', 80, '*' ));


l_o_err_num := TO_NUMBER(SQLCODE) ;
 l_s_err_msg := SUBSTR(SQLERRM,1,100) ;

 UTL_FILE.PUT_LINE(err_file_h_SEA,l_o_err_num||':'||l_s_err_msg) ;
 UTL_FILE.FCLOSE(err_file_h_SEA);
 END IF;

END;


Build my own aggregate function

2001-05-17 Thread Ahmadsyah Algozhi Nugroho
Title: Build my own aggregate function





Dear gurus,
How to build a function that work like aggregate function(SUM,COUNT,..).


TIA,



Ahmadsyah Alghozi Nugroho
Database Engineering Specialist
PT Infoglobal AutOptima
Jl. Baruk Tengah I/49
Surabaya - Jawa Timur
phone : +62 (31) 8708456 ext.113





RE: ??? strange database link problem

2001-05-17 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: ??? strange database link problem





Check out the global_name init.ora parameter.


It is probably set to true, which forces the name of the 
database link to be the same as the alias.



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 -Original Message-
 From: Andrea Oracle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:30 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: ??? strange database link problem
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I tried to create a database link like this:
 
 create database link test connect icssowner identified
 by icssowner using 'AU40CNV';
 
 when I used it, I got:
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-02085: database link TEST.WORLD connects to
 AU34TD.WORLD
 
 I created other links to AU40CNV, but I got that err
 again, the link ALWAYS goes to AU34TD.WORLD!!! why?
 
 Thanks
 
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RE: unhandled user-defined exception

2001-05-17 Thread ALEMU Abiy
Title: unhandled user-defined exception



Add 
an EXCEPTION to your code and try to trap the error 6510

  -Message d'origine-De: Venugopal, R (GEP, 
  Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Envoyé: jeudi 17 
  mai 2001 13:25À: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LObjet: unhandled user-defined exception 
  
  Hi Gurus   I am getting the error attached below when trigger fires. 
  what could be the reasons for this error. 
   DB error: ORA-06510: 
  PL/SQL: unhandled user-defined exception   Thanks in 
  Advance Venu  



Re: unhandled user-defined exception

2001-05-17 Thread Muthaiah

Hi,

You have to handle the exception explicitly. You can handle them by
trapping When too_many_rows, when no_data_found, when zero_divide.
After using these exceptions also if you get the error again, then you
can go for when others as a final resort.

Hope this helps,

Muthaiah

At 03:25 AM 5/17/01 -0800, you wrote:

Hi Gurus

 
 I am getting the error attached below when
trigger fires. what could be the reasons 
for this error. 
 
DB error: ORA-06510: PL/SQL: unhandled user-defined
exception 
 
 
Thanks in Advance 
Venu 
 

Muthaiah
Chinnaveerappan (Muths),
Systems Analyst,
Chennai, India.
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Re: Decode in PL/Sql

2001-05-17 Thread Igor Neyman

Gyula,

I understand, that you want to apply DECODE function to some local variables
in your pl/sql block (and not to some columns in some table).

The trick is: you can always run DECODE() against 'dual' table:

select DECODE(base_expr, compare1, value1, compare2, value2,... default )
into local_variable_out from dual;

In this case 'base_expr' does not have to reference any column in any table.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
Perceptron, Inc.
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 Hi Gurus !


 Is there any function that can be used in PL/SQL and  just works the way
as
 DECODE does in Sql?

 Thanks in Advance

 Gyula
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Re: How to make DBA cannot 'see' User's Tables?

2001-05-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael

to carry this forward (hey Paul and Anita!)

you can also look at:

http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/util/encryption/encryption.html

Jared's site with some VERY easy to understand explanations on how to use 
encryption

and yes the string length has to be a multiple of 8 characters

Rachel

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Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 21:56:01 -0800

A. Bardeen wrote:
 
  You can encrypt using only a 56-bit key (the key
  length limitation is a requirement of US regulations
  governing the export of cryptographic products).
 
  HTH,
 
  -- Anita

Hi Anita.


Ahmadsyah,

I believe that you also have to pad the string to a length that is a
multiple of 8 characters.
Your key string was 10 characters.

here's the obligatory link to the fine manual: (that includes a code
example)
http://technet.oracle.com/doc/oracle8i_816/server.816/a76936/dbms_obf.htm#6518

Paul


 
  --- Ahmadsyah Algozhi Nugroho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   I'm using Oracle 8.1.7.
   there was an error
   ERROR at line 1:
   ORA-28232: invalid input length for obfuscation
   toolkit
   ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT_FFI,
   line 0
   ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT, line
   33
   ORA-06512: at SCOTT.IAO_PROTECT, line 15
   ORA-06512: at line 1
  
   I check thath my key and my input string is
   varchar12(10).
   Key = 0123456789
   input string = 'testtestte'
  
   dbms_obfuscation_toolkit.desencrypt (
 input_string = 'testtestte'
 , key_string = '1234567890'
 , encrypted_string = vEncrypted
 );
   Am I forget something?
  
   TIA,
  
  
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   Database Engineering Specialist
   PT Infoglobal AutOptima
   Jl. Baruk Tengah I/49
   Surabaya - Jawa Timur
   phone : +62 (31) 8708456 ext.113
From: Srinagesh Battula
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   Tables?
   
   
   
You can encrypt  Decrypt data using the
DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT package
(comes with 8.1.6)
   
Srinagesh What do I know any way Battula
   
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 Data Encryption?

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 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:01 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 Dear gurus,
 How to make DBA cannot 'see' user's datas?
 I build an application which very important and
   top secret
 even DBA cannot
 'see' this data. But DBA can backup this
   data.What is the
 solution for this
 problem?

 TIA,


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 PT Infoglobal AutOptima
 Jl. Baruk Tengah I/49
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Oracle 8.1.7.1 NEW Installation on SunOS 5.8

2001-05-17 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA

SunOS 5.8 , ORA 8.1.7.1 

For Creating a NEW Database ( 1st Time ) 

SVRMGR connect internal;
connected
SVRMGR startup nomount pfile=/in1/ora817/dbs/initfin61.ora;  
ORA-03113 end-of-file on communication channel

RESULT Database NOT Coming to NOMOUNT 

OBSERVATIOM - core of 9MB Dumped in the CORE_DUMP_DEST Dir 

NOTE - Core Dumped only when Attempting STARTUP NOMOUNT thru the
$ORACLE_OWNER

When Trying the SAME Command thru Another Unix user of DBA Group . NO
Core is Dumped though the Error ORA-3113 Continues 

NOTE - 
1) NO SQL*Net being Done 
2) TWO_TASK NOT Set
3) RE-Created the oracle Exes using  make -f ins_rdbms.mk install

Considering Deleting ORA 8.1.7.1  Installing 8.1.7.0  RE-Trying 

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Re: Export Split Script

2001-05-17 Thread Ruth Gramolini

Rachel,

Your scripts are so slick.  I have been using them for 2 years now.  I
haven't tried any of the others  but 'if it's not broke done fix it!'.  I am
going to be on 8.0.6.3 forever because out vendors won't certify the
application for 8i, so yours scripts are a life saver.

Ruth
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 there is a note out on Metalink on how to do this. You can also break the
 export into separate files in later versions of Oracle8i. or you can run
the
 following script (modified to suit your system, it was last tested on
 Solaris/Oracle 7.3.4)

 #!/bin/sh
 #
 cd $EXPORT_DIR
 #
 # set maximum file size for each chunk of the export file
 #
 MAXFILESIZE=2000m
 export MAXFILESIZE
 #
 # create filenames for the parts of the backup... for now let's go to 3
 #
 FILENAME1=$EXPORT_DIR/backup1_$ORACLE_SID.dmp
 FILENAME2=$EXPORT_DIR/backup2_$ORACLE_SID.dmp
 FILENAME3=$EXPORT_DIR/backup3_$ORACLE_SID.dmp
 LOGFILE=$EXPORT_DIR/backup_$ORACLE_SID.log
 #
 # save off the old ones
 #
 mv $FILENAME1 $FILENAME1.old
 if [ -f $FILENAME2 ]
 then
 mv $FILENAME2 $FILENAME2.old
 fi
 if [ -f $FILENAME3 ]
 then
 mv $FILENAME3 $FILENAME3.old
 fi
 mv $LOGFILE $LOGFILE.old
 #
 # create the pipes
 #
 mkfifo exportpipeaa
 mkfifo exportpipeab
 mkfifo exportpipeac
 mkfifo wrkpipe
 umask 000
 #
 # start the readers from the pipes to create the export files
 #
 dd if=exportpipeaa of=$FILENAME1 
 dd if=exportpipeab of=$FILENAME2 
 dd if=exportpipeac of=$FILENAME3 
 #
 # start the reader from the wrkpipe to compress and split the export
 #
 dd if=wrkpipe|compress|split -b $MAXFILESIZE - exportpipe 
 #
 # start the export for real
 #
 exp / file=wrkpipe full=y compress=n buffer=4096000 LOG=$LOGFILE
 #
 # clean up after ourselves
 #
 rm exportpipeaa exportpipeab exportpipeac wrkpipe
 #
 # if you haven't used all the pipes, the dd may still linger on
 # make sure to REALLY clean up
 #
 ps -ef|grep exportpipe|grep -vi grep|awk '{printf (kill -9 %d;
 \n,$2)}'kill.lst
 chmod u+x kill.lst
 sh kill.lst
 rm kill.lst



 now to import from those split files


 #!/bin/sh
 #
 cd $EXPORT_DIR
 #
 # create filenames for the parts of the backup... for now let's go to 3
 #
 FILENAME1=$EXPORT_DIR/backup1_$ORACLE_SID.dmp
 FILENAME2=$EXPORT_DIR/backup2_$ORACLE_SID.dmp
 FILENAME3=$EXPORT_DIR/backup3_$ORACLE_SID.dmp
 LOGFILE=$EXPORT_DIR/backup_$ORACLE_SID.log
 #
 # create the pipe to import from
 #
 mkfifo wrkpipe
 umask 000
 #
 # start the reader from the import pipe
 #
 imp / file=wrkpipe full=y commit=y buffer=4096000 LOG=$LOGFILE 
 #
 # create the import stream coming from the pipes
 #
 cat $FILENAME1 $FILENAME2 $FILENAME3 | uncompress | dd of=wrkpipe
 #
 # clean up the import pipe
 #
 rm wrkpipe



 From: Armstead, Michael A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: Export Split Script
 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:07:24 -0800
 
 Rajaram,
 
 Please give me details on how to use mknod to split export files larger
 than
 2 GB. We have broken our jobs into over 50 separate export jobs on the
 table
 level just to keep our files less than 2GB.
 
 Michael Armstead
 Application Database Administrator, OCP-Certified
 US Pharmaceuticals IT
 Glaxo SmithKline
 
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   If you are using Oracle on Unix , You may want to use unix pipes (
 mknod).
   - most people use this method to manage files  2GB.
  
   Rajaram
   (Now that I am at the top of a mountain - I dont know how to get
down!)
  
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   I tries using a compressed export and the output is still over 2G.
Does
   anyone have the export script that splits the export files into
multiple
   files?
  
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RE: ??? strange database link problem

2001-05-17 Thread Libal, Ivo
Title: RE: ??? strange database link problem



Check
NAMES.DEFAULT_DOMAIN in 
sqlnet.ora
Regards
Ivo 
Libal


  -Original Message-From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 03:55 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  ??? strange database link problem
  Check out the global_name init.ora parameter. 
  It is probably set to true, which forces the name of the 
  database link to be the same as the alias. 
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  From: Andrea Oracle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:30 PM  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L  Subject: ??? strange database link problemHi 
  all,   I tried to 
  create a database link like this:  
   create database link test connect icssowner 
  identified  by icssowner using 'AU40CNV'; 
when I used it, I 
  got:  ERROR at line 1:  ORA-02085: database link TEST.WORLD connects to  AU34TD.WORLD   I created other links to AU40CNV, but I got that err 
   again, the link ALWAYS goes to AU34TD.WORLD!!! 
  why?   Thanks 
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Database Link ORA-02085

2001-05-17 Thread Smith, Ron L.

I have two Oracle 8.1.6 database on different servers.  I created a link on
server 'A' 
called 'instance_link' whish point to the Instance 'B' on server 'B'.  It
works fine.  I 
then created a link on server 'B' called 'instance_link' that point to
Instance 'A' on
server 'A'.  When I tried the link I get an ORA-02085 which says the link
name must
be the same as the instance name.
 
Any ideas why they do not work the same?
 
Thanks!
 
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RE: unhandled user-defined exception

2001-05-17 Thread Libal, Ivo



I 
would say that the problem is with 'w' parameter of fopen function if the file 
already exists. Try tu usest like this:
Kind 
Regards
Ivo 
Libal

traceFileName := NVL(traceFile,'TRACE_'||TO_CHAR(SYSDATE,'MMDD')||'.OUT');
BEGIN
iFile := 
UTL_FILE.fopen(iPath, traceFileName, 'a');
EXCEPTION
WHEN 
OTHERS 
THEN
iFile := 
UTL_FILE.fopen(iPath, traceFileName, 'w');
END;
UTL_FILE.put_line (iFile,'* '||to_char(sysdate,'DD.MM. 
HH24:MI:SS')||' - '||traceInfo);
UTL_FILE.fclose (iFile);


  -Original Message-From: Muthaiah 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 03:25 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
  unhandled user-defined exception Hi,You have to 
  handle the exception explicitly. You can handle them by trapping When 
  too_many_rows, when no_data_found, when zero_divide. After using these 
  exceptions also if you get the error again, then you can go for when 
  others as a final resort.Hope this 
  helps,MuthaiahAt 03:25 AM 5/17/01 -0800, you wrote:
  Hi Gurus 
  I am 
getting the error attached below when trigger fires. what could be the 
reasons for this error.  DB error: ORA-06510: PL/SQL: unhandled 
user-defined exception   Thanks in Advance Venu  
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RE: BMC Patrol - 2nd Wave

2001-05-17 Thread Henry Poras

Wow, you're absolutely right ()

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oh you silly person... it is ALWAYS the DBA's fault, whether or not it has 
to do with the database, whether or not the DBA was even employed by the 
company at the time of installation, whether or not the DBA had anything to 
do with it at all.

Repeat after me:  I'm wrong, I've always been wrong, I will always BE 
wrong. Let's move on from there

:)




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Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:51:09 -0800

One advantage to never having been consulted on whether it should be done
and having consultants installing it is that it would be hard to blame me
for anything that goes wrong :).

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My experience is that BMC leaves a big footprint on the systems it 
monitors.
So unless you have a system with 6+ cpu's the hogs reported are BMC related
or the slow system is caused by BMC.  And the $$ it costs, ouch.

I have seen better results in shops using Big Brother ( http://bb4.com/
http://bb4.com/ ) or NetSaint ( http://netsaint.sourceforge.net/
http://netsaint.sourceforge.net/ ).

Maybe Patrol works for some people. But my advise is to stay away so that
when the project dies and they try to decide who is to blame for spending
$$ on a POS you will not be within ear shot.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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So my boss calls me over yesterday and tells me he needs two servers for 
2nd

Wave to install BMC on to monitor the databases.
I say, huh?

Apparently the CIO decided to have a consulting company (2nd Wave) install
and configure BMC to monitor all the databases (Oracle and SQL Server) in
the company.
I met with them briefly today (only because I asked to, it hadn't been
deemed necessary before that) and I'll admit it doesn't look too bad so 
far,

even if we already get all the information they provide (plus more) from
various sql scripts and statspack.

Does anyone have any gotchas, warnings, send out your resume NOW
recommendations for working with the BMC Patrol product?
Any experience with 2nd Wave?

Thanks in advance!

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RE: Oracle 8.1.7.1 NEW Installation on SunOS 5.8

2001-05-17 Thread Daemen, Remco

Hi Vivek,

I had a simular problem on DG/UX. It turned out that the shared memory was
the problem: after freeing shared memory that had no processes connected to
it, the problem was solved. 

HTH,  Remco

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Onderwerp: Oracle 8.1.7.1 NEW Installation on SunOS 5.8


SunOS 5.8 , ORA 8.1.7.1 

For Creating a NEW Database ( 1st Time ) 

SVRMGR connect internal;
connected
SVRMGR startup nomount pfile=/in1/ora817/dbs/initfin61.ora;  
ORA-03113 end-of-file on communication channel

RESULT Database NOT Coming to NOMOUNT 

OBSERVATIOM - core of 9MB Dumped in the CORE_DUMP_DEST Dir 

NOTE - Core Dumped only when Attempting STARTUP NOMOUNT thru the
$ORACLE_OWNER

When Trying the SAME Command thru Another Unix user of DBA Group . NO
Core is Dumped though the Error ORA-3113 Continues 

NOTE - 
1) NO SQL*Net being Done 
2) TWO_TASK NOT Set
3) RE-Created the oracle Exes using  make -f ins_rdbms.mk install

Considering Deleting ORA 8.1.7.1  Installing 8.1.7.0  RE-Trying 

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RE: ??? strange database link problem

2001-05-17 Thread Smith, Ron L.

The parameter is the same on both servers.  I changed the link name from
instance_link to instance and it worked fine.  Why is it
complaining about the _link in the name?
 
Ron

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Check
NAMES.DEFAULT_DOMAIN in sqlnet.ora
Regards
Ivo Libal
 

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Check out the global_name init.ora parameter. 

It is probably set to true, which forces the name of the 
database link to be the same as the alias. 

 
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 Hi all, 
 
 I tried to create a database link like this: 
 
 create database link test connect icssowner identified 
 by icssowner using 'AU40CNV'; 
 
 when I used it, I got: 
 ERROR at line 1: 
 ORA-02085: database link TEST.WORLD connects to 
 AU34TD.WORLD 
 
 I created other links to AU40CNV, but I got that err 
 again, the link ALWAYS goes to AU34TD.WORLD!!! why? 
 
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RE: Export Split Script

2001-05-17 Thread Thater, William

On Wed, 16 May 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-de nada -- just trying to beat my fan club (thanks Ruth and Bill :)  ) to
-the punch.

Hi, I'm Bill and I'm a Goddess Groupie.;-)

-
-Now. in 8i (not sure which flavor) you can have export do the split as
-part of the export. I don't think it compresses it but it will at least
-break the files down

I'm using it on 8.1.5, and no it doesn't compress the splits, I do that afterward with 
gzip -9.;-)

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Re: ??? strange database link problem

2001-05-17 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz
Title: RE: ??? strange database link problem



# Global Naming -- enforce that a dblink has same 
name as the db it connects toglobal_names = true


Your problem is this.
make it to false or obey the rules.


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PM
  Subject: RE: ??? strange database link 
  problem
  
  Check
  NAMES.DEFAULT_DOMAIN in sqlnet.ora
  Regards
  Ivo 
  Libal
  
  
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ORACLE-LSubject: RE: ??? strange database link 
problem
Check out the global_name init.ora parameter. 
It is probably set to true, which forces the name of the 
database link to be the same as the alias. 

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   Hi all,   I tried to create a database link like this:   create database link test connect 
icssowner identified  by icssowner using 
'AU40CNV';   when I 
used it, I got:  ERROR at line 1: 
 ORA-02085: database link TEST.WORLD connects to 
 AU34TD.WORLD  
 I created other links to AU40CNV, but I got 
that err  again, the link ALWAYS goes to 
AU34TD.WORLD!!! why?   Thanks   
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RE: unhandled user-defined exception

2001-05-17 Thread Daemen, Remco
Title: unhandled user-defined exception



Hi 
Venu,

Did 
you set the database parameter utl_file_dir ? 

Remco

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  ORACLE-LOnderwerp: RE: unhandled user-defined exception 
  
  
I am attaching the source 
code of the trigger ,Please let me know where I made mistake 
.Thanks..


Venu

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Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: unhandled 
user-defined exception 
Hi Gurus  
 I am getting the error attached below when 
trigger fires. what could be the reasons for this 
error.  DB error: 
ORA-06510: PL/SQL: unhandled user-defined exception   Thanks 
in Advance Venu  


RE: Temporary files and Quick i/o

2001-05-17 Thread Hillman, Alex

Maybe workaround is to precreate files and when creating temporary
tablespaces use precreated files with reuse.

Alex Hillman

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Hi,

After reading Steve Adams'  tip on making temp files
quick io. I posed this question to Veritas as they had
 told us not do so. The answer they give is the
following.

Temporary datafiles should not be converted to quick
i/o files.  The following is an excerpt from the
administrator's Guide: Tablespaces marked TEMPORARY
can be sparse, which means that not all blocks in the
file are allocated. Quick I/O files cannot be sparse,
as Quick I/O provides a raw-type interface to storage.
If a sparse file is converted to a Quick I/O file, the
Oracle instance can fail if Oracle attempts to write
into one of these unallocated blocks.

I would appreciate your thoughts on this?

Johnson Job


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RE: Script that will remove redundant rows from table

2001-05-17 Thread Haskins, Ed

Eric,

Yes they did...I am not resending this message.  Either the List software is
screwing up, or my Company's email servers suck.

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
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didn't 27  1/2 people post the answer to this yesterday???

On 16 May 2001, at 17:10, Haskins, Ed wrote:

 A few months ago I remember seeing a script that enabled the removal of
 redundant rows in a table.  


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PCTFREE/PCTUSED

2001-05-17 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz



PCT_USED = PCT_FREE + 1 row sizePCT_USED + 
PCT_FREE  100 Are the rules .
But what does 1 row size mean here?
For ex . My pctfree=30
 1 row 
size (avg.) = 150 bytes .
 Then 
what is PCT_USED ?
TIA 


How to downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 - Urgent Help Please!

2001-05-17 Thread Helen rwulfjeq
Hello: 
Please help me on this crisis! What is the steps and safe procedures to downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 ??? I need to have this done by noon today.
I have database 8.1.5 with all schemas and data. But the application can not support 8.1.5.I have to install 8.0.6.(new one) Then I need get all those data and schemas into 8.0.6. I know in some way this can be done, Now matter how risk I have to do at client's request. 
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How to downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 - Urgent Help Please!

2001-05-17 Thread Helen rwulfjeq
Hello DBAs: 
Please help me on this crisis! What is the steps and safe procedures to downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 ??? I need to have this done by noon today.
I have database 8.1.5 with all schemas and data. But the application can not support 8.1.5. I have to install 8.0.6.(new one) Then I need get all those data and schemas into 8.0.6. I know in some way this can be done, Now matter how risk I have to do at client's request. 
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RE: How to downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 - Urgent

2001-05-17 Thread Kimberly Smith

The upgrade doco also has the downgrade steps.  Check your documentation.  

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Hoo boy...I guess the safest approach is to run the catalog script against
the 8.1.6 database that changes the export views to be 8.0.6 compatible,
then do a full export and import.  

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/17/01 12:15PM 

Hello DBAs: 
Please help me on this crisis! What is the steps and safe procedures to
downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 ??? I need to have this done by noon
today.

I have database 8.1.5 with all schemas and data. But the application can not
support 8.1.5. I have to install 8.0.6.(new one) Then I need get all those
data and schemas into 8.0.6. I know in some way this can be done, Now matter
how risk I have to do at client's request. 

What is the steps and safe procedures???

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RE: ??? strange database link problem

2001-05-17 Thread Smith, Ron L.

That was it.
 
Thanks!

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# Global Naming -- enforce that a dblink has same name as the db it connects
to
global_names = true
 
 
Your problem is this.
make it to false or obey the rules.

 

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Check
NAMES.DEFAULT_DOMAIN in sqlnet.ora
Regards
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Check out the global_name init.ora parameter. 

It is probably set to true, which forces the name of the 
database link to be the same as the alias. 

 
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 Hi all, 
 
 I tried to create a database link like this: 
 
 create database link test connect icssowner identified 
 by icssowner using 'AU40CNV'; 
 
 when I used it, I got: 
 ERROR at line 1: 
 ORA-02085: database link TEST.WORLD connects to 
 AU34TD.WORLD 
 
 I created other links to AU40CNV, but I got that err 
 again, the link ALWAYS goes to AU34TD.WORLD!!! why? 
 
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RE: Script that will remove redundant rows from table

2001-05-17 Thread Alan Aschenbrenner

Who was the half person?


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now now, don't exaggerate it was only 25  1/4 people




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didn't 27  1/2 people post the answer to this yesterday???

On 16 May 2001, at 17:10, Haskins, Ed wrote:

  A few months ago I remember seeing a script that enabled the removal
of
  redundant rows in a table.


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Re: unhandled user-defined exception

2001-05-17 Thread Connor McDonald

The trigger code would probably help...

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RE: How to downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 - Urgent Help P

2001-05-17 Thread Djordje Jankovic



The 
safest way is to do a full database export, to create a new 8.0.6 database 
instance and to import the datain the new database. You have to see 
for inter-version specifics - you might need to use 8.1.5 import version to 
import in the 8.0.6 database - you have to check that, but it is for sure 
doable.

If at 
all possible, I would not delete the original 8.1.5 database before I am fully 
done with the import and I test that 8.0.6 is working fine.

If you 
do not have enough space for 8.1.5 + export file + 8.0.5 (and you are on unix) 
you might use the named pipes for export/import (again make sure that the 
exp/imp versions are OK):


· 
create a named pipe:
$ mknod p_expimp p
· 
export from the source database to the pipe:
$ exp userid=src_username/password file=p_expimp OtherParameters
· 
at the same time importing from the pipe is started:
$ imp userid=trg_username/password file=p_expimp buffer=1024000 OtherParameters

Djordje

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  to downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 - Urgent Help 
  Please!
  Hello: 
  Please help me on this crisis! What is the steps and safe procedures to 
  downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 ??? I need to have this done by noon 
  today.
  I have database 8.1.5 with all schemas and data. But the application 
  can not support 8.1.5.I have to install 8.0.6.(new 
  one) Then I need get all those data and schemas into 8.0.6. 
  I know in some way this can be done, Now matter how risk I 
  have to do at client's request. 
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Re: Script that will remove redundant rows from table

2001-05-17 Thread Eric D. Pierce

How about we split the difference?

|  1* select (25.25+27.5)/2 from dual
|SQL /
|
|(25.25+27.5)/2
|--
|26.375
|

 (no this is not the mean)


On 16 May 2001, at 19:36, Rachel Carmichael wrote:

 now now, don't exaggerate it was only 25  1/4 people
...

 didn't 27  1/2 people post the answer to this yesterday???

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RE: BMC Patrol - 2nd Wave

2001-05-17 Thread Glenn Travis

You haven't been a DBA too long have you?

... if you manage the db, you are responsible.  period.

at least that's the way it's been everywhere for me, but I could be wrong...

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One advantage to never having been consulted on whether it should be done
and having consultants installing it is that it would be hard to blame me
for anything that goes wrong :).

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My experience is that BMC leaves a big footprint on the systems it monitors.
So unless you have a system with 6+ cpu's the hogs reported are BMC related
or the slow system is caused by BMC.  And the $$ it costs, ouch.

I have seen better results in shops using Big Brother ( http://bb4.com/
http://bb4.com/ ) or NetSaint ( http://netsaint.sourceforge.net/
http://netsaint.sourceforge.net/ ).

Maybe Patrol works for some people. But my advise is to stay away so that
when the project dies and they try to decide who is to blame for spending
$$ on a POS you will not be within ear shot.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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So my boss calls me over yesterday and tells me he needs two servers for 2nd

Wave to install BMC on to monitor the databases.
I say, huh?

Apparently the CIO decided to have a consulting company (2nd Wave) install
and configure BMC to monitor all the databases (Oracle and SQL Server) in
the company.
I met with them briefly today (only because I asked to, it hadn't been
deemed necessary before that) and I'll admit it doesn't look too bad so far,

even if we already get all the information they provide (plus more) from
various sql scripts and statspack.

Does anyone have any gotchas, warnings, send out your resume NOW
recommendations for working with the BMC Patrol product?
Any experience with 2nd Wave?

Thanks in advance!

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sqlldr help

2001-05-17 Thread Glenn Travis

I have a data file that looks like this;

100Memo line 1 information.
100more information for record 100.
100extra information again.
200Memo for 200.
200more info for 200
300info for 300
300next memo
300and more
300yet more again.

I want to load to a table (col1, infodesc) to look like this;

col1infodesc
--
100Memo line 1 information. more information for record 100. extra
information again
200extra information again. Memo for 200. more info for 200
300info for 300 next memo and more yet more again.

Can this be done with sqlldr or do I need to load the data as is and use
PL/SQL (and cursor loops) to concatentate the data?

thanks for any help!

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Re: How to downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 - Urgent Help Please!

2001-05-17 Thread Roy Ferguson

Export/Import

this was actually mentioned in chapter 3 in the Oracle8i Migration Release 
(A76957-01)



Hello: 

Please help me on this crisis! What is the steps and safe procedures to 
downgrade database from 8.1.5 to 8.0.6 ??? I need to have this done by noon 
today.

 I have database 8.1.5 with all schemas and data. But the application can not 
support 8.1.5.  I have to install 8.0.6.(new one)   Then I need get all those 
data and schemas into 8.0.6. I know in some way this can be done, Now matter how 
risk I have to do at client's request. 

What is the steps and safe procedures???

Thanks in advance



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Re: What is the cost of replication?

2001-05-17 Thread Eric D. Pierce

A.,

Just out of curiosity, is your paper pertinent to NT/Win2K? Is the 
replication done strictly within Oracle?  

what about stuff like this?: 
 http://www.nsisw.com/main/pages/products.html


regarding your private question about rifts in space/time continuums, 
the world is probably safe for the time being since there is a 3,000 
mile separation, but here are some ideas that you , Ross and I can 
work on in case we ever get together w/ the Oracle-L group at a 
conference or whatever:  

 http://wc4.com/fartfart/index.html
-
 http://www.headscape.com/windbreak.htm

And of course lest anyone think that there aren't implications to 
these issues that threaten the very existence of our species (or more 
generally the evolutionary process that leads to organisms being 
capable of excercising powers of higher conciousness), please see 
below (no pun intended);  

  http://www.electricearl.com/fart/fartnews.html

---excerpt---

  ...Now, according to the
   August 2, 2000, edition of the Daily Sport in London, 
   Great Britain's Agricultural Ministry is spending 
   267,000 pounds 'to find out what happens when cows fart.'
   According to the newspaper, 'Scientists say a massive 
   25 per cent of all methane gas in the world's
   atmosphere is produced by cows.' One Member of 
   Parliament, Gordon Prentice, said, 'It beggars belief 
   that cows, with their legendary five stomachs, are 
   responsible for doing so much damage.' Stay tuned for 
   more details. ...

---end---

regards,
ep


On 16 May 2001, at 20:30, A. Bardeen wrote:


 Replication is not for the faint of heart and it would
 behoove you to research this to see if replication is
 really the right way to accomplish your goal.

...

 -- Anita
 
 P.S. I'm sending you my paper which discusses many of
 the issues you should consider before implementing
 replication.
 
 --- Smith, Ron L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We have a small but critical application running on
  NT.  The user wants to
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Oracle Gateway Product for Progress Database

2001-05-17 Thread Sam Bootsma

Does anybody know if a gateway exists between the Oracle database and
Progress database?

Thanks.

Sam Bootsma
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Forms and Reports Server versions vs. RDBMS versions

2001-05-17 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

We are planning to upgrade our databases to 8.1.6. or 8.1.7, and I am trying
to figure out which OAS/iAS, Forms / Reports and RDBMS versions go together
best.

This is my list so far (RDBMS -- Developer/Forms/Reports -- OWS/OAS/iAS
-- OEM):

Oracle 7.3.3. -- Developer 1.6.1 -- n/a -- n/a
Oracle 7.3.4. -- Developer 2.1 -- OWS 3.0.1.1.  -- OEM 1.3 (?)
Oracle 8.0.4/8.0.5 -- Developer 6 -- OAS 4.0.8.1. -- OEM 1.6
Oracle 8.0.6 -- Forms / Reports 6i patch 2 -- OAS 4.0.8.2. -- OEM 2.0
Oracle 8.1.6. -- Forms / Reports 6i  patch 4 (6.0.8.14) -- iAS 1.0.1.0
-- OEM 2.1
Oracle 8.1.7 -- Forms / Reports 6i patch 5 -- iAS 1.0.2.0  -- OEM 2.2
Oracle 9.0 -- Forms / Reports (?) -- iAS (?) -- OEM (?)

Is this correct?

I wish there was a page on the Oracle web site with a matrix like this.

TIA
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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RE: enqueue waits -- CI (still remains)

2001-05-17 Thread Diego Cutrone

Thanks for the TX information Jeffery.
But my question about CI enqueue still remains.


Here's the query to get enqueue waits statistics, it's from Steve Adams'
site.

select
  q.ksqsttyp type,
  q.ksqstget gets,
  q.ksqstwat waits
from
  sys.x_$ksqst  q
where
  q.ksqstget  0
/

thanks again



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 Hi Diego,

  If lock type is 'TX',  rollback segment number = trunc(p2/65536)
  and slot number = p2 - 65536*trunc(p2/65536).

  May I know which table you are looking at to get the following
 detailed info about enqueue waits?

  Enqueue Stats
 --
 TY  GETS WAITS
 -- - -
 CF68 0
 CI 1117884
 CU 1797012
 DL   109 0
 DR   102 0
 DX  6219 0
 IS72 0
 MR   140 0
 RT 1 0
 SQ  2472 5
 SS 1 0
 ST  320734
 TM278918 5
 TS  4655 0
 TX21005757
 UL  3500 0
 US 30496 0
 WL10 0

 18 rows selected.

  Thanks

  Jeffery



 Diego Cutrone wrote:

  Thanks for answering Unal, John.
 
  John, you were right about the query. I've corrected it. And I'm not
getting
  T[ and CK anymore,now I get TX and CI.
  I've also done further investigation and I also know now what p2 and p3
  mean.
 
  This is the updated data: (from the dumps)
  
  count TYPE  MODE
   13  CI  6  p2=0 p3=5 ela=0
19 TX 6 p2=262223 p3=53352 ela=301
75 TX 4 p2=524391 p3=50022 ela=301
75 TX 6 p2=720923 p3=5194 ela=301
   104TX 6 p2=196736 p3=52393 ela=301
   305TX 6 p2=393276 p3=50281 ela=301
  
 
  Now, how can I get the rollback segment number involved in the TX ? (I
know
  its from p2 and p3, but how?) --just curious. I'll also take John
advise,
  and I'll try to identify the locking session(s).
 
  Now, although CI enqueue waits (cross instance call invocation) are
brief on
  this sample, Sometimes it's not.
  So I'm trying to understand what it means. According to p2 and p3 flags,
  they are indicating Flush buffers for reuse as new class, that means
that
  a session needs a buffer (in the shared pool I think) and it has to
flush
  some others in order to get space. am I correct?.
  I've also read a metalink document (1020355.102). According to this, one
  possible cause is that my application is using dbms_pipe extensively (it
may
  be right, I've seen event pipe get very high). The suggested solution
is
  to increase the shared_pool. I can't access the other documents
mentioned
  in the paper.
 
  Can someone explain to me what means this CI enqueue and how can I
reduce
  it.
  TIA
 
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   Hi Diego,
  
   Without going into details, an 'enqueue' wait is mostly due to a
   user/program initated transaction lock and I see it a lot in Financial
   databases (I see you are on 10.7?). I deduce you were looking at
   V$SYSTEM_EVENT - If a user locked one row (probably queried a row in
  Forms,
   inadvertly changed one character which issues a 'SELECT for UPDATE,
thus
   locking that row) and anotehr user (through a form or a report) needs
to
   perform DML on that particular row, then (I believe) you will clock up
  time
   against the 'enqueue' event.
  
   What I would suggest is that you use the following query to determine
if
   someone is locking someone else out:
  
   select event, count(*) from v$session_wait
   group by event
  
   If you see the 'enqueue' event in this list, some process is probably
   waiting on a lock... You can then trace the user/process via Lock
  detection
   scripts (see Metablink) and kill the blocking process. You could also
  query
   from sys.dba_waiters which will present an easier picture in this
case..
  
   As far as the SQL goes, see below:
  
select
   chr(bitand(p1,-16777216)/16777215)||chr(bitand(p1,16711680)/63365)
   Lock,   - I believe the value is '65535', rather than 63365)
to_char(bitand(p1,65535)) Mode
from dual
  
   You can learn a lot from the Oracle 8.1 Reference Manual - Appendix A.
   Oracle Wait Events and App B Oracle Enqueue Names. While they are
   applicable for 8.1, most of the info is valid for 7.3 as well...
  
   Please let us know if you need additional info.
  
  
   John Kanagaraj (A long time member of  the Always look at
v$session_wait
   first camp)
   Oracle Applications DBA
   Hitach Data Systems, Santa Clara
   Work : (408) 970 7002
  
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   Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:50 AM
   

Re[2]: How to make DBA cannot 'see' User's Tables?

2001-05-17 Thread dgoulet

Yes you can encrypt the data, or you could invest in Trusted Oracle.  But the
question really becomes one of what are you trying to do.  If the problem is
that you question the integrity of the DBA that becomes a management problem. 
On the other hand, if you don't question his/her integrity then what's the
problem?  Most DBA's that I know of, myself included, don't have the time and/or
inclination to browse through application data no matter how sensitive it may
be.  And on top of all that, the data in your database is not your personal
property, but the property of your employer and the DBA is one of his employees.
 He/she just happens to have GOD privileges and is intrusted with the security
and integrity of all of the data.  That's why he/she has those privileges.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Paul Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   5/16/2001 9:55 PM

A. Bardeen wrote:
 
 You can encrypt using only a 56-bit key (the key
 length limitation is a requirement of US regulations
 governing the export of cryptographic products).
 
 HTH,
 
 -- Anita

Hi Anita.


Ahmadsyah,

I believe that you also have to pad the string to a length that is a
multiple of 8 characters.
Your key string was 10 characters.

here's the obligatory link to the fine manual: (that includes a code
example)
http://technet.oracle.com/doc/oracle8i_816/server.816/a76936/dbms_obf.htm#6518

Paul


 
 --- Ahmadsyah Algozhi Nugroho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I'm using Oracle 8.1.7.
  there was an error
  ERROR at line 1:
  ORA-28232: invalid input length for obfuscation
  toolkit
  ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT_FFI,
  line 0
  ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT, line
  33
  ORA-06512: at SCOTT.IAO_PROTECT, line 15
  ORA-06512: at line 1
 
  I check thath my key and my input string is
  varchar12(10).
  Key = 0123456789
  input string = 'testtestte'
 
  dbms_obfuscation_toolkit.desencrypt (
input_string = 'testtestte'
, key_string = '1234567890'
, encrypted_string = vEncrypted
);
  Am I forget something?
 
  TIA,
 
 
  Ahmadsyah Alghozi Nugroho
  Database Engineering Specialist
  PT Infoglobal AutOptima
  Jl. Baruk Tengah I/49
  Surabaya - Jawa Timur
  phone : +62 (31) 8708456 ext.113
   From: Srinagesh Battula
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  Tables?
  
  
  
   You can encrypt  Decrypt data using the
   DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT package
   (comes with 8.1.6)
  
   Srinagesh What do I know any way Battula
  
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Dear gurus,
How to make DBA cannot 'see' user's datas?
I build an application which very important and
  top secret
even DBA cannot
'see' this data. But DBA can backup this
  data.What is the
solution for this
problem?
   
TIA,
   
   
Ahmadsyah Alghozi Nugroho
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Re: index FS vs index FFS - what's the difference ?

2001-05-17 Thread Riyaj_Shamsudeen

Hi Ed
I think, For full index scan, oracle server process reads the root block and branch blocks 1 block at a time. It reads the leaf blocks at a db file multiblock -read count blocks per read call. For the fast full scan, it reads all the block from the segment header to high water mark at a db_file_multiblock_read count blocks per read call. So, root blocks and branch blocks are read 1 block at a time, hence the db file sequential read. Where as for the fast full index scan you will see sequential read events only for the root block. Also, for the full index scan apparently knows about the extent boundary and if the next group of blocks to be read (in the current extent) is less than the db file multiblock read count , then it tries to read until the end of the current extent. That's why 11 blocks instead of 8 blocks.
For the 'db file parallel read' the segment read are file 1 block 11, which is a system rollback segment extent. If you dump the block, you could see the redo for index leaf operations. I guess, this is due to delayed instance recovery. 
All these, I found from dumping blocks and doing research myself. 

Steve,
Can you please clarify ?

Thanks
Riyaj Re-yas Shamsudeen
Certified Oracle DBA
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Hi List,

I've made two corresponding dumps and ... I must admit I have much less
understanding than I had before.
Please look at them.

=
PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=68 dep=0 uid=32 oct=3 lid=32 tim=219058914
hv=168660475 ad='aa69f79c'
select /*+ INDEX(documents pk_documents) */ count(*)
from documents
END OF STMT
PARSE #1:c=12,e=29,p=27,cr=322,cu=6,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219058914
EXEC #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219058914
WAIT #1: nam='SQL*Net message to client' ela= 0 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #1: nam='file open' ela= 0 p1=0 p2=0 p3=0
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=108810 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=109485 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=108811 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=108812 p3=11
[skip]

WAIT #1: nam='db file parallel read' ela= 1 p1=1 p2=11 p3=11
WAIT #1: nam='db file parallel read' ela= 0 p1=1 p2=11 p3=11

[skip]

WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=109472 p3=11
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=109483 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=109486 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file parallel read' ela= 0 p1=1 p2=11 p3=11

=
PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=72 dep=0 uid=32 oct=3 lid=32 tim=219108177
hv=3669603672 ad='aa6a4f84'
select /*+ INDEX_FFS(documents pk_documents) */
count(*)
from documents
END OF STMT
PARSE #1:c=11,e=13,p=27,cr=322,cu=6,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219108177
EXEC #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219108177
WAIT #1: nam='SQL*Net message to client' ela= 0 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
WAIT #1: nam='file open' ela= 0 p1=0 p2=0 p3=0
WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=108809 p3=1
WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 2 p1=22 p2=108810 p3=8
WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=108818 p3=8
[skip, all next lines are the same]

My questions are

1. Why I get 'db file scattered read' waits for index full scan ?
2. Why p3 for this event is 11 even though my db_file_multiblock_read_count
= 8 ?
3. What does mean 'db file parallel read' event? 

Anjo Kolk's paper doesn't describe it (guess the wait is Oracle8-specific).
Oracle 8i Reference says:

blockquote This happens during recovery. Database blocks that need to be
changed as 
part of recovery are read in parallel from the database./blockquote

But it seems not my case.

4. Finally, what is the difference between the two index paths in that case
?

I'm on 8.1.7.0 Solaris, file-based system, LMT


Thanks in advance,
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RE: Script that will remove redundant rows from table

2001-05-17 Thread Hillman, Alex

Are you an idiot? :-)

Alex Hillman

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|| How about we split the difference?
|| 
|| |  1* select (25.25+27.5)/2 from dual
|| |SQL /
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|| |(25.25+27.5)/2
|| |--
|| |26.375
|| |
|| 
||  (no this is not the mean)
|| 
|| 
|| On 16 May 2001, at 19:36, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
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Moving a database to a different machine

2001-05-17 Thread Steve McClure

Allright,
We are physically moving our office, and have an OLTP application that needs
to be up and running with minimal downtime.  The current plan is to use the
development computer as the production platform while the Primary computer
is physically moved to the new location.  The development system was the
production system about 6 months ago, so it will not be under too much
strain.

  I have completely duplicated the filesystems of the Primary machine on the
development box.

This is my plan.  Please comment if there is an obviously better way.  Oh
the database is version 7.3.4

1.Put the tablespaces of the production database in backup mode.
2.Copy datafiles across the network to the development machine.  Approx 3
GB
3.Take the production tablespaces out of backup mode.
4.Force a log switch.(Habit I guess)
5.wait until the production system is brought down.
6.move the control files and redo logs to the development system
7.move the initSID.ora and configSID.ora files.
8.edit configSID.ora to change the host associated to Listener.
9.fire up svrmgrl, and recover the database.
10.change the tnsnames on the client systems to point to the development
machine.

Of course.  This needs to be tested to some degree first.  And we(well
management at least) don't want to bring the production machine down to roll
the databases forward together just for a test.  I can use make a backup
control file for use during recovery, and move the curently offline redo
logs.  I am not sure what to do about the most current redo log in this
case.  I have played with backup and recovery, but not this scenario.  I
don't currently have my copy of the Velpuri backup and recovery handbook at
hand(Loaned it to a colleague).  So I am bouncing this off of you folks
while I ponder this until I retrieve my backup and recovery bible.

Any Comments are appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve McClure




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Truncate listener.log how?

2001-05-17 Thread Seema Singh

Gurus
I want to truncate listener.log file.I am using oracle 8.1.5 and 8.1.7 on 
solaris 8.Plese suggest.As I understand
go to listener.log file directory
copy listener.log listener.old
tail -10 listener.log
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Re: Script that will remove redundant rows from table

2001-05-17 Thread Jared Still



Are you an idiot?

( oh god, I can't believe I said that.  might as well finish it )

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

;^{)

On Thursday 17 May 2001 11:07, Mohan, Ross wrote:
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 || How about we split the difference?
 ||
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 || |SQL /
 || |
 || |(25.25+27.5)/2
 || |--
 || |26.375
 ||
 ||  (no this is not the mean)
 ||
 || On 16 May 2001, at 19:36, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 ||  now now, don't exaggerate it was only 25  1/4 people
 ||
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 ||  didn't 27  1/2 people post the answer to this yesterday???
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RE: Forms and Reports Server versions vs. RDBMS versions

2001-05-17 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I logged a TAR with Oracle, and their Metalink technician replied that...
all the current versions are certified to work together.

I knew that.

What I want to know is, which versions of OAS , OEM or Developer were
designed on concert with which version of the RDBMS.

E.g. as part of the server technology track, Application Server CDs, tend to
come with an RDBMS CD - iAS 1.0.2 came with 8.1.7. and Jdeveloper 3.

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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Subject:Forms and Reports Server versions vs. RDBMS versions

We are planning to upgrade our databases to 8.1.6. or 8.1.7, and I
am trying
to figure out which OAS/iAS, Forms / Reports and RDBMS versions go
together
best.

This is my list so far (RDBMS -- Developer/Forms/Reports --
OWS/OAS/iAS
-- OEM):

Oracle 7.3.3. -- Developer 1.6.1 -- n/a -- n/a
Oracle 7.3.4. -- Developer 2.1 -- OWS 3.0.1.1.  -- OEM 1.3 (?)
Oracle 8.0.4/8.0.5 -- Developer 6 -- OAS 4.0.8.1. -- OEM 1.6
Oracle 8.0.6 -- Forms / Reports 6i patch 2 -- OAS 4.0.8.2. -- OEM
2.0
Oracle 8.1.6. -- Forms / Reports 6i  patch 4 (6.0.8.14) -- iAS
1.0.1.0
-- OEM 2.1
Oracle 8.1.7 -- Forms / Reports 6i patch 5 -- iAS 1.0.2.0  -- OEM
2.2
Oracle 9.0 -- Forms / Reports (?) -- iAS (?) -- OEM (?)

Is this correct?

I wish there was a page on the Oracle web site with a matrix like
this.

TIA
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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Re: Script that will remove redundant rows from table

2001-05-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Deal! :)


From: Eric D. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:31:33 -0800

How about we split the difference?

|  1* select (25.25+27.5)/2 from dual
|SQL /
|
|(25.25+27.5)/2
|--
|26.375
|

  (no this is not the mean)


On 16 May 2001, at 19:36, Rachel Carmichael wrote:

  now now, don't exaggerate it was only 25  1/4 people
...

  didn't 27  1/2 people post the answer to this yesterday???

...


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RE: Script that will remove redundant rows from table

2001-05-17 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Mr. Rhet Device
(rhet oracle device, that is)

On 17 May 2001, at 8:21, Alan Aschenbrenner wrote:

 Who was the half person?

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Re: sqlldr help

2001-05-17 Thread Jared Still


Sounds like a job for Perl. 

Here's an example of cleaning up this data before you
send it to the database.  

Really, this is much easier than doing it with PL/SQL or Java.

Jared

--
#!/usr/bin/perl

our %hashData;

while(DATA) {

my($key, @data) = split(/\s/);
if (defined($hashData{$key} ) ) {
$hashData{$key} .= ' ' . join(' ',@data);
} else {
$hashData{$key} = join(' ',@data);
}

}

foreach my $key ( sort keys %hashData ) {
print Key: $key - |$hashData{$key}|\n;
}


__DATA__
100 Memo line 1 information.
100 more information for record 100.
100 extra information again.
200 Memo for 200.
200 more info for 200
300 info for 300
300 next memo
300 and more
300 yet more again.

--

On Thursday 17 May 2001 10:45, Glenn Travis wrote:
 I have a data file that looks like this;

 100Memo line 1 information.
 100more information for record 100.
 100extra information again.
 200Memo for 200.
 200more info for 200
 300info for 300
 300next memo
 300and more
 300yet more again.

 I want to load to a table (col1, infodesc) to look like this;

 col1infodesc
 --
 100Memo line 1 information. more information for record 100. extra
 information again
 200extra information again. Memo for 200. more info for 200
 300info for 300 next memo and more yet more again.

 Can this be done with sqlldr or do I need to load the data as is and use
 PL/SQL (and cursor loops) to concatentate the data?

 thanks for any help!
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Re: Moving a database to a different machine

2001-05-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael

I think this will work fine. You could play with doing it with a standby 
database, the only advantage to that is that you could start the backup and 
move of files earlier in the process and just keep recovering the archived 
logs as you ship them across.

This has the advantage of giving you time to plan, test and play with 
starting the standby db.

So the steps would be:

create the standby database
ship archived logs to standby site, recover logs

when ready to move over:

on production db, force log switch, shutdown, and move the last archived log 
over

on standby machine, recover the last log. Open the database.

make the necessary changes to various tnsnames.ora and you are in business

Then when you move back to the real production machine, you do the same 
thing.


Rachel


From: Steve McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Moving a database to a different machine
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:25:34 -0800

Allright,
We are physically moving our office, and have an OLTP application that 
needs
to be up and running with minimal downtime.  The current plan is to use the
development computer as the production platform while the Primary computer
is physically moved to the new location.  The development system was the
production system about 6 months ago, so it will not be under too much
strain.

   I have completely duplicated the filesystems of the Primary machine on 
the
development box.

This is my plan.  Please comment if there is an obviously better way.  Oh
the database is version 7.3.4

1.Put the tablespaces of the production database in backup mode.
2.Copy datafiles across the network to the development machine.  Approx 3
GB
3.Take the production tablespaces out of backup mode.
4.Force a log switch.(Habit I guess)
5.wait until the production system is brought down.
6.move the control files and redo logs to the development system
7.move the initSID.ora and configSID.ora files.
8.edit configSID.ora to change the host associated to Listener.
9.fire up svrmgrl, and recover the database.
10.change the tnsnames on the client systems to point to the development
machine.

Of course.  This needs to be tested to some degree first.  And we(well
management at least) don't want to bring the production machine down to 
roll
the databases forward together just for a test.  I can use make a backup
control file for use during recovery, and move the curently offline redo
logs.  I am not sure what to do about the most current redo log in this
case.  I have played with backup and recovery, but not this scenario.  I
don't currently have my copy of the Velpuri backup and recovery handbook at
hand(Loaned it to a colleague).  So I am bouncing this off of you folks
while I ponder this until I retrieve my backup and recovery bible.

Any Comments are appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve McClure




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Re: Truncate listener.log how?

2001-05-17 Thread Lucy Lin

Hi seema,

you can do:

echo ''  listener.log


On Thu, 17 May 2001, Seema Singh wrote:

 Gurus
 I want to truncate listener.log file.I am using oracle 8.1.5 and 8.1.7 on 
 solaris 8.Plese suggest.As I understand
 go to listener.log file directory
 copy listener.log listener.old
 tail -10 listener.log
 Thanks in advance.
 -seema
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Re: How to make DBA cannot 'see' User's Tables?

2001-05-17 Thread Jared Still

oops!

My previous post said that the key must be on 8 byte boundaries.

That is incorrect.  I believe the data must be on 8 byte boundaries.

Guess I should re-read my own article.  

Jared

On Wednesday 16 May 2001 18:30, Ahmadsyah Algozhi Nugroho wrote:
 I'm using Oracle 8.1.7.
 there was an error
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-28232: invalid input length for obfuscation toolkit
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT_FFI, line 0
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT, line 33
 ORA-06512: at SCOTT.IAO_PROTECT, line 15
 ORA-06512: at line 1

 I check thath my key and my input string is varchar12(10).
 Key = 0123456789
 input string = 'testtestte'

 dbms_obfuscation_toolkit.desencrypt (
   input_string = 'testtestte'
   , key_string = '1234567890'
   , encrypted_string = vEncrypted
   );
 Am I forget something?

 TIA,


 Ahmadsyah Alghozi Nugroho
 Database Engineering Specialist
 PT Infoglobal AutOptima
 Jl. Baruk Tengah I/49
 Surabaya - Jawa Timur
 phone : +62 (31) 8708456 ext.113

  From: Srinagesh Battula [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: How to make DBA cannot 'see' User's Tables?
 
 
 
  You can encrypt  Decrypt data using the
  DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT package
  (comes with 8.1.6)
 
  Srinagesh What do I know any way Battula
 
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   Data Encryption?
  
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   Dear gurus,
   How to make DBA cannot 'see' user's datas?
   I build an application which very important and top secret
   even DBA cannot
   'see' this data. But DBA can backup this data.What is the
   solution for this
   problem?
  
   TIA,
  
  
   Ahmadsyah Alghozi Nugroho
   Database Engineering Specialist
   PT Infoglobal AutOptima
   Jl. Baruk Tengah I/49
   Surabaya - Jawa Timur
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Re: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to 
purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal elements in 
public places. Children are constantly under psychological assault 
being exposed to media violence. The liberal education system is 
devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless PC relativism, 
materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant 
dismissal).  

Western freedoms can be seen from a variety of perspectives.  


 Conditions cut both ways - depends on how you see it... Loss of religious,
 social and cultural freedom against the possibility of earning (and saving
 because you can't spend) lots of $$. Having said that, as long as you stick
 to the straight and narrow path (as defined by the Saudi authorities) you
 will be on the safest place on earth as far as crime goes. (E.g. stealing is
 punishable by cutting off your arm/fingers!!) 

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Re: How to make DBA cannot 'see' User's Tables?

2001-05-17 Thread Jared Still


The key must be on 8 byte boundaries.

See my article on encryption at www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/util

Jared


On Wednesday 16 May 2001 18:30, Ahmadsyah Algozhi Nugroho wrote:
 I'm using Oracle 8.1.7.
 there was an error
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-28232: invalid input length for obfuscation toolkit
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT_FFI, line 0
 ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT, line 33
 ORA-06512: at SCOTT.IAO_PROTECT, line 15
 ORA-06512: at line 1

 I check thath my key and my input string is varchar12(10).
 Key = 0123456789
 input string = 'testtestte'

 dbms_obfuscation_toolkit.desencrypt (
   input_string = 'testtestte'
   , key_string = '1234567890'
   , encrypted_string = vEncrypted
   );
 Am I forget something?

 TIA,


 Ahmadsyah Alghozi Nugroho
 Database Engineering Specialist
 PT Infoglobal AutOptima
 Jl. Baruk Tengah I/49
 Surabaya - Jawa Timur
 phone : +62 (31) 8708456 ext.113

  From: Srinagesh Battula [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:26 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: How to make DBA cannot 'see' User's Tables?
 
 
 
  You can encrypt  Decrypt data using the
  DBMS_OBFUSCATION_TOOLKIT package
  (comes with 8.1.6)
 
  Srinagesh What do I know any way Battula
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Khedr, Waleed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 4:21 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: RE: How to make DBA cannot 'see' User's Tables?
  
  
   Data Encryption?
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:01 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
   Dear gurus,
   How to make DBA cannot 'see' user's datas?
   I build an application which very important and top secret
   even DBA cannot
   'see' this data. But DBA can backup this data.What is the
   solution for this
   problem?
  
   TIA,
  
  
   Ahmadsyah Alghozi Nugroho
   Database Engineering Specialist
   PT Infoglobal AutOptima
   Jl. Baruk Tengah I/49
   Surabaya - Jawa Timur
   phone : +62 (31) 8708456 ext.113
  
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....A drop schema script ??

2001-05-17 Thread Luis DeUrioste

All mighty and powerful DBA supremes !

Do any of you have a drop schema script that would be willing to share
??
It'll be greatly appreciated

T I A



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Re: index FS vs index FFS - what's the difference ?

2001-05-17 Thread Jared Still


Re the 'scattered read' for full index scan.

This term is counter intuitive at first glance, and is commonly
seen on full table scans.  It makes sense that it would show up
on full index scans as well.

Here's an explanation of 'scattered read' found at
http://fncduh.fnal.gov/supportdb/working/logbook/db_file_multiblock_read_count.htm


 The Explain Plan for a given query will reveal if a full table scan will be
 performed. The BSTAT/ESTAT report lists statistics for multi-block reads as
 db file scattered read. The term scattered read refers to multiple blocks
 read into DB block buffers that are scattered throughout memory. High
 values for db file scattered read is often an indicator of many full table
 scans being performed. BSTAT/ESTAT is a useful tool in tuning this and other
 init.ora parameters.

Jared


On Thursday 17 May 2001 01:40, Shevtsov, Eduard wrote:
 Hi List,

 I've made two corresponding dumps and ... I must admit I have much less
 understanding than I had before.
 Please look at them.

 =
 PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=68 dep=0 uid=32 oct=3 lid=32 tim=219058914
 hv=168660475 ad='aa69f79c'
 select /*+ INDEX(documents pk_documents) */ count(*)
 from documents
 END OF STMT
 PARSE #1:c=12,e=29,p=27,cr=322,cu=6,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219058914
 EXEC #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219058914
 WAIT #1: nam='SQL*Net message to client' ela= 0 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #1: nam='file open' ela= 0 p1=0 p2=0 p3=0
 WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=108810 p3=1
 WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=109485 p3=1
 WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=108811 p3=1
 WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=108812 p3=11
 [skip]

 WAIT #1: nam='db file parallel read' ela= 1 p1=1 p2=11 p3=11
 WAIT #1: nam='db file parallel read' ela= 0 p1=1 p2=11 p3=11

 [skip]

 WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=109472 p3=11
 WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=109483 p3=1
 WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=109486 p3=1
 WAIT #1: nam='db file parallel read' ela= 0 p1=1 p2=11 p3=11

 =
 PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=72 dep=0 uid=32 oct=3 lid=32 tim=219108177
 hv=3669603672 ad='aa6a4f84'
 select /*+ INDEX_FFS(documents pk_documents) */
 count(*)
 from documents
 END OF STMT
 PARSE #1:c=11,e=13,p=27,cr=322,cu=6,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219108177
 EXEC #1:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=4,tim=219108177
 WAIT #1: nam='SQL*Net message to client' ela= 0 p1=1413697536 p2=1 p3=0
 WAIT #1: nam='file open' ela= 0 p1=0 p2=0 p3=0
 WAIT #1: nam='db file sequential read' ela= 1 p1=22 p2=108809 p3=1
 WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 2 p1=22 p2=108810 p3=8
 WAIT #1: nam='db file scattered read' ela= 0 p1=22 p2=108818 p3=8

 [skip, all next lines are the same]

 My questions are

 1. Why I get 'db file scattered read' waits for index full scan ?
 2. Why p3 for this event is 11 even though my db_file_multiblock_read_count
 = 8 ?
 3. What does mean 'db file parallel read' event?

 Anjo Kolk's paper doesn't describe it (guess the wait is Oracle8-specific).
 Oracle 8i Reference says:

 blockquote This happens during recovery. Database blocks that need to be
 changed as
 part of recovery are read in parallel from the database./blockquote

 But it seems not my case.

 4. Finally, what is the difference between the two index paths in that case
 ?

 I'm on 8.1.7.0 Solaris, file-based system, LMT


 Thanks in advance,
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RE: Forms and Reports Server versions vs. RDBMS versions

2001-05-17 Thread Eric D. Pierce

It takes a lot of digging for multiple versions, but on Metalink, 
under product life cycle there is a certification facility with 
various levels of drill-down.  

regards,
ep

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2000


 Client Certifications 

OS
 Product
 Server
 Status
 Addtl.
  Info.
 Components
 Other
 
Issues
   2000
  6.0.8.13, (Patch
4)
  8.1.7
  (8i)
Certified
  Yes
Yes
  Yes
  
None
   2000
  6.0.8.13, (Patch
4)
  8.1.6
  (8i)
Certified
  Yes
Yes
  Yes
  
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   2000
  6.0.8.12.1(Patch
   3A)
  8.1.7
  (8i)
Certified
  Yes
Yes
  Yes
  
Yes
   2000
  6.0.8.12.1(Patch
   3A)
  8.1.6
  (8i)
Certified
  Yes
Yes
  Yes
  
Yes
   2000
   6.0.8.11.3 (Rel
2)
  8.1.7
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Re: ....A drop schema script ??

2001-05-17 Thread Rocky Welch

How about:

drop user username cascade;


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RE: Moving a database to a different machine

2001-05-17 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Moving a database to a different machine





Hi Steve, 


I used this same strategy with a migration last month. It minimized our database related downtime to 30 minutes (and then they unplugged the symmetrix and the app server was down for 12 hours. Oh well) 

This plan will work. Once your production machine is physically moved and set up, you can do the reverse to apply changes to the prod database without copying over the entire database from dev:

Starting with production database down, the following steps will bring prod up to date:


1. Shutdown dev
2. Copy over control files/redo logs/arc logs
3. Start up prod
4. Initiate recovery


Voila. Slick. 


A word of warning, and you probably already know this: you can't have both databases open at the same time or you will end up with incompatible archive logs and control files. Good luck !


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Allright,
We are physically moving our office, and have an OLTP application that needs
to be up and running with minimal downtime. The current plan is to use the
development computer as the production platform while the Primary computer
is physically moved to the new location. The development system was the
production system about 6 months ago, so it will not be under too much
strain.


 I have completely duplicated the filesystems of the Primary machine on the
development box.


This is my plan. Please comment if there is an obviously better way. Oh
the database is version 7.3.4


1.Put the tablespaces of the production database in backup mode.
2.Copy datafiles across the network to the development machine. Approx 3
GB
3.Take the production tablespaces out of backup mode.
4.Force a log switch.(Habit I guess)
5.wait until the production system is brought down.
6.move the control files and redo logs to the development system
7.move the initSID.ora and configSID.ora files.
8.edit configSID.ora to change the host associated to Listener.
9.fire up svrmgrl, and recover the database.
10.change the tnsnames on the client systems to point to the development
machine.


Of course. This needs to be tested to some degree first. And we(well
management at least) don't want to bring the production machine down to roll
the databases forward together just for a test. I can use make a backup
control file for use during recovery, and move the curently offline redo
logs. I am not sure what to do about the most current redo log in this
case. I have played with backup and recovery, but not this scenario. I
don't currently have my copy of the Velpuri backup and recovery handbook at
hand(Loaned it to a colleague). So I am bouncing this off of you folks
while I ponder this until I retrieve my backup and recovery bible.


Any Comments are appreciated.


Thanks,
Steve McClure





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RE: ....A drop schema script ??

2001-05-17 Thread John Lewis

Login in as system:
drop user user_name cascade;

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All mighty and powerful DBA supremes !

Do any of you have a drop schema script that would be willing to share
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It'll be greatly appreciated

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RE: enqueue waits -- CI

2001-05-17 Thread Diego Cutrone

As usual, thanks for the answer Steve.

I'll try to reduce the number of shrinks in the rollback segments, so this
is going to impact on CI enqueue waits.

What do you think about Metalink DOC ID 1020355.102 recomendation?

(from my previous email)
 I've also read a metalink document (1020355.102). According to this, one
 possible cause is that my application is using ***dbms_pipe*** extensively
(it may
 be right, I've seen pipe get event very high). The suggested solution is
 to increase the shared_pool. I can't access the other documents mentioned
 in the paper.

Eventtotal_waits   time_waited
pipe get910593342266184


Thank you.
DC


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 Hi Diego,

 No, those are block buffers. When a segment is dropped, truncated or
shrunk
 (normally a rollback segment) then a reuse block range cross instance
call is
 needed to flush the unwanted blocks from cache. Similarly, before a
parallel
 direct read a checkpoint block range or checkpoint object cross
instance
 call is needed (otherwise changes made prior to the start of the query and
 committed but not yet flushed to disk could be missed by the direct
reads).
 These are cross-instance calls even in single-instance Oracle because
the code
 allows for the possibility of parallel server, and the DBWn processes in
all
 instance need to flush the cache in their own instances.

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 Thanks for answering Unal, John.

 John, you were right about the query. I've corrected it. And I'm not
getting
 T[ and CK anymore,now I get TX and CI.
 I've also done further investigation and I also know now what p2 and p3
 mean.

 This is the updated data: (from the dumps)
 
 count TYPE  MODE
  13  CI  6  p2=0 p3=5 ela=0
   19 TX 6 p2=262223 p3=53352 ela=301
   75 TX 4 p2=524391 p3=50022 ela=301
   75 TX 6 p2=720923 p3=5194 ela=301
  104TX 6 p2=196736 p3=52393 ela=301
  305TX 6 p2=393276 p3=50281 ela=301
 

 Now, how can I get the rollback segment number involved in the TX ? (I
know
 its from p2 and p3, but how?) --just curious. I'll also take John advise,
 and I'll try to identify the locking session(s).

 Now, although CI enqueue waits (cross instance call invocation) are brief
on
 this sample, Sometimes it's not.
 So I'm trying to understand what it means. According to p2 and p3 flags,
 they are indicating Flush buffers for reuse as new class, that means
that
 a session needs a buffer (in the shared pool I think) and it has to flush
 some others in order to get space. am I correct?.
 I've also read a metalink document (1020355.102). According to this, one
 possible cause is that my application is using dbms_pipe extensively (it
may
 be right, I've seen event pipe get very high). The suggested solution is
 to increase the shared_pool. I can't access the other documents mentioned
 in the paper.


 Can someone explain to me what means this CI enqueue and how can I reduce
 it.
 TIA













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  Hi Diego,
 
  Without going into details, an 'enqueue' wait is mostly due to a
  user/program initated transaction lock and I see it a lot in Financial
  databases (I see you are on 10.7?). I deduce you were looking at
  V$SYSTEM_EVENT - If a user locked one row (probably queried a row in
 Forms,
  inadvertly changed one character which issues a 'SELECT for UPDATE, thus
  locking that row) and anotehr user (through a form or a report) needs to
  perform DML on that particular row, then (I believe) you will clock up
 time
  against the 'enqueue' event.
 
  What I would suggest is that you use the following query to determine if
  someone is locking someone else out:
 
  select event, count(*) from v$session_wait
  group by event
 
  If you see the 'enqueue' event in this list, some process is probably
  waiting on a lock... You can then trace the user/process via Lock
 detection
  scripts (see Metablink) and kill the blocking process. You could also
 query
  from sys.dba_waiters which will present an easier picture in this case..
 
  As far as the SQL goes, see below:
 
   select
  chr(bitand(p1,-16777216)/16777215)||chr(bitand(p1,16711680)/63365)
  Lock,   - I believe the value is '65535', rather than 63365)
   to_char(bitand(p1,65535)) Mode
   

Oracle DBA Needed in Cleveland area..

2001-05-17 Thread OraStaff

This Client in the Cleveland Ohio area, is dedicated to creating a work
environment 
enabling ALL employees to contribute and to grow into their fullest potential. 
They have a full-time staff opportunity available for an Oracle DBA.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third parties
please.

Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or need 
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*Responsibilities:
The qualified candidate will be responsible for the production support of
all Oracle
and SQL Server databases in a 7X24 environment.  
Responsibilities include performance monitoring and tuning, the implementation 
and support of an effective backup and recovery plan, new object installation
and some database design.
 
*Requirements:
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*   Desired:
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*   Able to provide support in a 7X24 environment.
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*   Familiarity with relational technology.
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RE: ....A drop schema script ??

2001-05-17 Thread Diego Cutrone

Or...may be

select 'drop user '||username||' cascade;'
from dba_users
where username not in ('SYS','SYSTEM'); --and perhaps some other user you'd
like to conserve

...and then run the spool.

hope it helps
DC

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 How about:

 drop user username cascade;


 --- Luis DeUrioste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Do any of you have a drop schema script that would be willing to share
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  It'll be greatly appreciated
 
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RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Brian MacLean
Title: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA





God I live in an awful country. I'm sorry for all the tyranny my country has put the world through. I guess I'll just shoot myself.

Seriously. I encourage the individual that is looking at working in Saudi Arabia to do so if that is the experiences he wishes to have. I am the first to scream from the highest mountain all the things that are wrong with America, and if it's okay with you, what is right with America. The point being that in America, I CAN if I want to.

Have a nice day and I hope you enjoy your move to Saudi Arabia.


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Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to 
purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal elements in 
public places. Children are constantly under psychological assault 
being exposed to media violence. The liberal education system is 
devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless PC relativism, 
materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant 
dismissal). 


Western freedoms can be seen from a variety of perspectives. 



 Conditions cut both ways - depends on how you see it... Loss of religious,
 social and cultural freedom against the possibility of earning (and saving
 because you can't spend) lots of $$. Having said that, as long as you stick
 to the straight and narrow path (as defined by the Saudi authorities) you
 will be on the safest place on earth as far as crime goes. (E.g. stealing is
 punishable by cutting off your arm/fingers!!) 


...



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Another big bang for Larry

2001-05-17 Thread dgoulet

From InformationWeek:

** Oracle Hooks NATO On 11i

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization has begun implementing 
Oracle's 11i E-business software in its 19 regional headquarters. 

NATO program director David Oakley says NATO's new Automated 
Financial System will incorporate Oracle's enterprise resource 
planning and E-business software to manage a range of operations, 
including budgeting, travel, treasury, disbursement, procurement, 
and supply functions. NATO also will use Oracle's 
business-analysis and reporting tools.

Oracle will provide training for an estimated 700 NATO personnel. 
Oakley says NATO's initiative is designed to let the organization 
adopt international public-sector accounting standards and have 
access to more meaningful and timely information about its own 
operations. 

The new system is expected to reduce the number of paper 
documents that must be handled by NATO personnel, such as 
requisitions and travel requests, and let the alliance use 
financial forecasting tools that Oakley says will help it use 
funds more efficiently. The value of the deal, and its deployment 
schedule, weren't released. - Steve Konicki

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OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Mohan, Ross

rant on

ep, 

Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world! 
Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a 
rate exceeding most other civilized nations. Free to 
subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and 
throw dangerous criminals in jail for using cannabis. 
Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate 
in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long 
as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
want until the money, environment, or patience of the
less fortunate runs out. 

So much freedom, you could almost choke on it. 

Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for 
the Burgers and Coca-Cola!

You have no chance to survive make your time

rm

p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting 
John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning 
inside the Department of Justice. 

rant off

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|| 
|| 
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|| purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal elements in 
|| public places. Children are constantly under psychological assault 
|| being exposed to media violence. The liberal education system is 
|| devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless PC relativism, 
|| materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant 
|| dismissal).  
|| 
|| Western freedoms can be seen from a variety of perspectives.  
|| 
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RE: Script that will remove redundant rows from table

2001-05-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael

GROAN


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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:50:39 -0800

Mr. Rhet Device
(rhet oracle device, that is)

On 17 May 2001, at 8:21, Alan Aschenbrenner wrote:

  Who was the half person?

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Re: ....A drop schema script ??

2001-05-17 Thread Luis DeUrioste

uhhh DUHHH !

I could write the algorithm to solve the logarithm .. IF I ONLY HAD A
BRAIN ..

Thank you to all of you, and special thanks for not bashing me

Luis Octavio

Luis DeUrioste wrote:

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View v_$session

2001-05-17 Thread Gilberto Gampert

Hi guys!

Since the upgrade of my Oracle server to the version 8.1.6 (I applied all
the patches) and the rebuild of the clients applications with the libraries
from the same version, the column PROGRAM of the view v_$session is empty.
If the application is using the old libs, the program apears in the view.
Does anybody know the solution?  What to do to see the program that is
running?

I thank in advance!!!

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Re: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Rocky Welch

And freedom to leave the country any time you wish. Have a nice flight.

--- Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 rant on
 
 ep, 
 
 Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world! 
 Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a 
 rate exceeding most other civilized nations. Free to 
 subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and 
 throw dangerous criminals in jail for using cannabis. 
 Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate 
 in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long 
 as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
 want until the money, environment, or patience of the
 less fortunate runs out. 
 
 So much freedom, you could almost choke on it. 
 
 Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for 
 the Burgers and Coca-Cola!
 
 You have no chance to survive make your time
 
 rm
 
 p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting 
 John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning 
 inside the Department of Justice. 
 
 rant off
 
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 || public places. Children are constantly under psychological assault 
 || being exposed to media violence. The liberal education system is 
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 || dismissal).  
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OT RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Mohan, Ross

Brian of MacLean, 
 
I guess that's a good way of putting it, too. Sometimes I like to rant about
( i.e. for ) Amerikkka, but that's usually when she's under attack, in a
way that is 
perceived by me as being unfair or 
misinformed. 
 
- Ross

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God I live in an awful country.  I'm sorry for all the tyranny my country
has put the world through.  I guess I'll just shoot myself.

Seriously.  I encourage the individual that is looking at working in Saudi
Arabia to do so if that is the experiences he wishes to have.  I am the
first to scream from the highest mountain all the things that are wrong with
America, and if it's okay with you, what is right with America.  The point
being that in America, I CAN if I want to.

Have a nice day and I hope you enjoy your move to Saudi Arabia. 

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 


Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to 
purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal elements in 
public places. Children are constantly under psychological assault 
being exposed to media violence. The liberal education system is 
devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless PC relativism, 
materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant 
dismissal).  

Western freedoms can be seen from a variety of perspectives.  


 Conditions cut both ways - depends on how you see it... Loss of religious,

 social and cultural freedom against the possibility of earning (and saving

 because you can't spend) lots of $$. Having said that, as long as you
stick 
 to the straight and narrow path (as defined by the Saudi authorities) you 
 will be on the safest place on earth as far as crime goes. (E.g. stealing
is 
 punishable by cutting off your arm/fingers!!) 

... 


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RE: Moving a database to a different machine

2001-05-17 Thread Steve McClure

Koivu, Lisa said
A word of warning, and you probably already know this: you can't have both
databases open at the same time or you will end up with incompatible archive
logs and control files. Good luck !

hehe I did know, but upon reading your warning it still frightened me for a
moment. Because I was planning to do this one time prior to the move to
allow for testing. Therefore having both databases up and running at the
same time on the two different machines. I know I will have to do the
migration again when we actually move, so that the database(s) will recover
properly. Oh and thanks for the tip about just moving the arc/redo/control
files back to the production machine to resynch the DBs. That will save me
from some tedium on moving day.
Steve McClure
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Hi Steve,
I used this same strategy with a migration last month. It minimized our
database related downtime to 30 minutes (and then they unplugged the
symmetrix and the app server was down for 12 hours. Oh well)
This plan will work. Once your production machine is physically moved and
set up, you can do the reverse to apply changes to the prod database without
copying over the entire database from dev:
Starting with production database down, the following steps will bring prod
up to date:
1. Shutdown dev
2. Copy over control files/redo logs/arc logs
3. Start up prod
4. Initiate recovery
Voila. Slick.
A word of warning, and you probably already know this: you can't have both
databases open at the same time or you will end up with incompatible archive
logs and control files. Good luck !

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Allright,
We are physically moving our office, and have an OLTP application that needs
to be up and running with minimal downtime. The current plan is to use the
development computer as the production platform while the Primary computer
is physically moved to the new location. The development system was the
production system about 6 months ago, so it will not be under too much
strain.
I have completely duplicated the filesystems of the Primary machine on the
development box.
This is my plan. Please comment if there is an obviously better way. Oh
the database is version 7.3.4
1.Put the tablespaces of the production database in backup mode.
2.Copy datafiles across the network to the development machine. Approx 3
GB
3.Take the production tablespaces out of backup mode.
4.Force a log switch.(Habit I guess)
5.wait until the production system is brought down.
6.move the control files and redo logs to the development system
7.move the initSID.ora and configSID.ora files.
8.edit configSID.ora to change the host associated to Listener.
9.fire up svrmgrl, and recover the database.
10.change the tnsnames on the client systems to point to the development
machine.
Of course. This needs to be tested to some degree first. And we(well
management at least) don't want to bring the production machine down to roll
the databases forward together just for a test. I can use make a backup
control file for use during recovery, and move the curently offline redo
logs. I am not sure what to do about the most current redo log in this
case. I have played with backup and recovery, but not this scenario. I
don't currently have my copy of the Velpuri backup and recovery handbook at
hand(Loaned it to a colleague). So I am bouncing this off of you folks
while I ponder this until I retrieve my backup and recovery bible.
Any Comments are appreciated.
Thanks,
Steve McClure



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RE: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

WOW!!  I need to pay more attantion, what the hay is going on here?

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rant on

ep, 

Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world! 
Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a 
rate exceeding most other civilized nations. Free to 
subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and 
throw dangerous criminals in jail for using cannabis. 
Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate 
in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long 
as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
want until the money, environment, or patience of the
less fortunate runs out. 

So much freedom, you could almost choke on it. 

Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for 
the Burgers and Coca-Cola!

You have no chance to survive make your time

rm

p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting 
John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning 
inside the Department of Justice. 

rant off

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|| 
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|| purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal elements in 
|| public places. Children are constantly under psychological assault 
|| being exposed to media violence. The liberal education system is 
|| devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless PC relativism, 
|| materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant 
|| dismissal).  
|| 
|| Western freedoms can be seen from a variety of perspectives.  
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Re: Another big bang for Larry

2001-05-17 Thread Ron Rogers

It's started. After slick willy was invited to speak the kickbacks are showing up. 
 Oracle will be running the Government.   Slick move... you don't dare bust up the 
monopoly that is running the Governmential department's programs. Will the NEW 
controling body be called the GOVERACLEMENT???
ROR mô¿ôm

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** Oracle Hooks NATO On 11i

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization has begun implementing 
Oracle's 11i E-business software in its 19 regional headquarters. 

NATO program director David Oakley says NATO's new Automated 
Financial System will incorporate Oracle's enterprise resource 
planning and E-business software to manage a range of operations, 
including budgeting, travel, treasury, disbursement, procurement, 
and supply functions. NATO also will use Oracle's 
business-analysis and reporting tools.

Oracle will provide training for an estimated 700 NATO personnel. 
Oakley says NATO's initiative is designed to let the organization 
adopt international public-sector accounting standards and have 
access to more meaningful and timely information about its own 
operations. 

The new system is expected to reduce the number of paper 
documents that must be handled by NATO personnel, such as 
requisitions and travel requests, and let the alliance use 
financial forecasting tools that Oakley says will help it use 
funds more efficiently. The value of the deal, and its deployment 
schedule, weren't released. - Steve Konicki

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RE: Another big bang for Larry

2001-05-17 Thread David Messer

Don't I feel silly!  I didn't even know that 9i was out yet, much less 10i
or 11i!  I guess I don't dare blink.

DM

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** Oracle Hooks NATO On 11i

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization has begun implementing
Oracle's 11i E-business software in its 19 regional headquarters.

NATO program director David Oakley says NATO's new Automated
Financial System will incorporate Oracle's enterprise resource
planning and E-business software to manage a range of operations,
including budgeting, travel, treasury, disbursement, procurement,
and supply functions. NATO also will use Oracle's
business-analysis and reporting tools.

Oracle will provide training for an estimated 700 NATO personnel.
Oakley says NATO's initiative is designed to let the organization
adopt international public-sector accounting standards and have
access to more meaningful and timely information about its own
operations.

The new system is expected to reduce the number of paper
documents that must be handled by NATO personnel, such as
requisitions and travel requests, and let the alliance use
financial forecasting tools that Oakley says will help it use
funds more efficiently. The value of the deal, and its deployment
schedule, weren't released. - Steve Konicki

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Will Oracle Finally Deliver With Release Of 11.5.3?
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Apps Made Easy?
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RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Gene Sais

Only in America, can you rant!  Try to criticize China while living there.  I have a 
friend there, her mail is read before she gets it.  All she can write is general 
stuff, nothing negative, fearful of her life.  The best thing about America is that 
you can b*tch if you want.  I served for this country and love this country.  *GO USA*

Not that there are not other great countries!

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RE: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Mohan, Ross

Not sorry if I touched a nerve, Rocky. 

That's what it's all about. It's democracy, 
suck it up, or spit it out. 


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|| From: Rocky Welch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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|| 
|| 
|| And freedom to leave the country any time you wish. Have a 
|| nice flight.
|| 
|| --- Mohan, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
||  rant on
||  
||  ep, 
||  
||  Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world! 
||  Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a 
||  rate exceeding most other civilized nations. Free to 
||  subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and 
||  throw dangerous criminals in jail for using cannabis. 
||  Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate 
||  in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long 
||  as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
||  want until the money, environment, or patience of the
||  less fortunate runs out. 
||  
||  So much freedom, you could almost choke on it. 
||  
||  Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for 
||  the Burgers and Coca-Cola!
||  
||  You have no chance to survive make your time
||  
||  rm
||  
||  p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting 
||  John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning 
||  inside the Department of Justice. 
||  
||  rant off
||  
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||  || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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||  || 
||  || 
||  || Many professional women in the USA have found it necessary to 
||  || purchase handguns to protect themselves from criminal 
|| elements in 
||  || public places. Children are constantly under 
|| psychological assault 
||  || being exposed to media violence. The liberal 
|| education system is 
||  || devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless PC 
|| relativism, 
||  || materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at least arrogant 
||  || dismissal).  
||  || 
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RE: Another big bang for Larry

2001-05-17 Thread Mohan, Ross

Well...technically it's not out yet. Like alot
of list member's, I got my copies about a month 
ago in the mail, and the general availability (GA) 
date is June 10th ( I think..I could be confusing 
that with IBM's next release ).

I wouldn't feel silly. A bunch of us around here
in this shop are still getting familiar with new 
features in 8i. 

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|| or 11i!  I guess I don't dare blink.
|| 
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|| 
|| The North Atlantic Treaty Organization has begun implementing
|| Oracle's 11i E-business software in its 19 regional headquarters.
|| 
|| NATO program director David Oakley says NATO's new Automated
|| Financial System will incorporate Oracle's enterprise resource
|| planning and E-business software to manage a range of operations,
|| including budgeting, travel, treasury, disbursement, procurement,
|| and supply functions. NATO also will use Oracle's
|| business-analysis and reporting tools.
|| 
|| Oracle will provide training for an estimated 700 NATO personnel.
|| Oakley says NATO's initiative is designed to let the organization
|| adopt international public-sector accounting standards and have
|| access to more meaningful and timely information about its own
|| operations.
|| 
|| The new system is expected to reduce the number of paper
|| documents that must be handled by NATO personnel, such as
|| requisitions and travel requests, and let the alliance use
|| financial forecasting tools that Oakley says will help it use
|| funds more efficiently. The value of the deal, and its deployment
|| schedule, weren't released. - Steve Konicki
|| 
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Re: Another big bang for Larry

2001-05-17 Thread Rodd Holman

Actually NATO has been using Oracle's RDBMS product for years.

 Original Message 

On 5/17/01, 4:01:34 PM, Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding 
Re: Another big bang for Larry:


 It's started. After slick willy was invited to speak the kickbacks 
are showing up.  Oracle will be running the Government.   Slick move... you 
don't dare bust up the monopoly that is running the Governmential 
department's programs. Will the NEW controling body be called the 
GOVERACLEMENT???
 ROR mô¿ôm

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/17/01 04:08PM 
 From InformationWeek:

 ** Oracle Hooks NATO On 11i

 The North Atlantic Treaty Organization has begun implementing
 Oracle's 11i E-business software in its 19 regional headquarters.

 NATO program director David Oakley says NATO's new Automated
 Financial System will incorporate Oracle's enterprise resource
 planning and E-business software to manage a range of operations,
 including budgeting, travel, treasury, disbursement, procurement,
 and supply functions. NATO also will use Oracle's
 business-analysis and reporting tools.

 Oracle will provide training for an estimated 700 NATO personnel.
 Oakley says NATO's initiative is designed to let the organization
 adopt international public-sector accounting standards and have
 access to more meaningful and timely information about its own
 operations.

 The new system is expected to reduce the number of paper
 documents that must be handled by NATO personnel, such as
 requisitions and travel requests, and let the alliance use
 financial forecasting tools that Oakley says will help it use
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RE: Another big bang for Larry

2001-05-17 Thread Suri, Deepak

I think it is Oracle Applications ver 11i and not an Oracle server release.

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** Oracle Hooks NATO On 11i

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization has begun implementing 
Oracle's 11i E-business software in its 19 regional headquarters. 

NATO program director David Oakley says NATO's new Automated 
Financial System will incorporate Oracle's enterprise resource 
planning and E-business software to manage a range of operations, 
including budgeting, travel, treasury, disbursement, procurement, 
and supply functions. NATO also will use Oracle's 
business-analysis and reporting tools.

Oracle will provide training for an estimated 700 NATO personnel. 
Oakley says NATO's initiative is designed to let the organization 
adopt international public-sector accounting standards and have 
access to more meaningful and timely information about its own 
operations. 

The new system is expected to reduce the number of paper 
documents that must be handled by NATO personnel, such as 
requisitions and travel requests, and let the alliance use 
financial forecasting tools that Oakley says will help it use 
funds more efficiently. The value of the deal, and its deployment 
schedule, weren't released. - Steve Konicki

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Will Oracle Finally Deliver With Release Of 11.5.3?
http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/flo?y=eDis0BdFGA0V20N2Q0AC

Apps Made Easy?
http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/flo?y=eDis0BdFGA0V20Niw0Aj

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OT RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Mohan, Ross

Gene, 

Being part of a nation with people (such as yourself)
who have a willingness to let other's have their opinions 
-- some of who are a part of the military force that 
defends that right -- is why all my tickets out of town 
are always marked round trip.

Above all, thanks for your service. 

- Ross

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data migration

2001-05-17 Thread Praful Thakkar

Hi,

We are planning to do two-phase data migration - split by data.
In first phase, about 10% of the data will be moved as is -
without changing the primary keys (generated from sequences).
Once we start using the database with phase 1 data, sequences
will generate new primary keys and add to this data - which
could be same as primary key for the remaining data, which is
not yet migrated. In phase 2, to avoid unique constraint
problems, we'll add 1,000,000 to primary keys before we migrate
remaining data. This will lead to imbalance of primary keys.
After complete migration, we'll have about 10% of the keys with
low values and remaining with very high values. What is the
impact of this huge gap in primary keys? How will be the
performance affected? Is there a way in which we can avoid this
huge gap in primary keys (We do not have an option of going for
single migration. Business needs force us to test the
application with partial data. ) One option I thought of is to
use high value keys in first migration itself - but when
sequences reach these high values, we'll have same problems of
unique constraint being violated.

Thanks.

- Praful


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RE: Another big bang for Larry

2001-05-17 Thread Seley, Linda

E-Business is the new term for Oracle Applications, and yes, 11i has been
out awhile, running against an 8i database.  

It's a full time job just keeping up with Oracle's naming convention!

Linda

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Don't I feel silly!  I didn't even know that 9i was out yet, much less 10i
or 11i!  I guess I don't dare blink.

DM

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From InformationWeek:

** Oracle Hooks NATO On 11i

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization has begun implementing
Oracle's 11i E-business software in its 19 regional headquarters.

NATO program director David Oakley says NATO's new Automated
Financial System will incorporate Oracle's enterprise resource
planning and E-business software to manage a range of operations,
including budgeting, travel, treasury, disbursement, procurement,
and supply functions. NATO also will use Oracle's
business-analysis and reporting tools.

Oracle will provide training for an estimated 700 NATO personnel.
Oakley says NATO's initiative is designed to let the organization
adopt international public-sector accounting standards and have
access to more meaningful and timely information about its own
operations.

The new system is expected to reduce the number of paper
documents that must be handled by NATO personnel, such as
requisitions and travel requests, and let the alliance use
financial forecasting tools that Oakley says will help it use
funds more efficiently. The value of the deal, and its deployment
schedule, weren't released. - Steve Konicki

Check out these related stories:

Will Oracle Finally Deliver With Release Of 11.5.3?
http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/flo?y=eDis0BdFGA0V20N2Q0AC

Apps Made Easy?
http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/flo?y=eDis0BdFGA0V20Niw0Aj

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RE: data migration

2001-05-17 Thread Mohan, Ross

Praful, 

This is a bit of a shot from the hip, but.
the gap shouldn't make much of a difference in
the end. 

I'd be more concerned about allocating space for
all your stuff initially, not just the first 10%.
The gaps should be handled seamlessly by indexes
(the way a b*tree works...) and anything that seems
to act much differently you can always do select 
activation of histograms to account for data skew
if you come to think that's a problem. (You *are* in
cost-mode, yes?)

Of course, there's always the design solution. Put
another field in there that tells the app whether it's
phase I or phase II data. Then you could overlap
primary keys, which from your description i gather
are sequence-based. (But i think that's weird and 
sloppy somehow, and I wouldn't do it.)

hth, 

- Ross

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|| 
|| Hi,
|| 
|| We are planning to do two-phase data migration - split by data.
|| In first phase, about 10% of the data will be moved as is -
|| without changing the primary keys (generated from sequences).
|| Once we start using the database with phase 1 data, sequences
|| will generate new primary keys and add to this data - which
|| could be same as primary key for the remaining data, which is
|| not yet migrated. In phase 2, to avoid unique constraint
|| problems, we'll add 1,000,000 to primary keys before we migrate
|| remaining data. This will lead to imbalance of primary keys.
|| After complete migration, we'll have about 10% of the keys with
|| low values and remaining with very high values. What is the
|| impact of this huge gap in primary keys? How will be the
|| performance affected? Is there a way in which we can avoid this
|| huge gap in primary keys (We do not have an option of going for
|| single migration. Business needs force us to test the
|| application with partial data. ) One option I thought of is to
|| use high value keys in first migration itself - but when
|| sequences reach these high values, we'll have same problems of
|| unique constraint being violated.
|| 
|| Thanks.
|| 
|| - Praful
|| 
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Re: index FS vs index FFS - what's the difference ?

2001-05-17 Thread Shevtsov, Eduard



Hi Riyaj,

Thanks for your response. Very interesting! I 
completely agree with you about index fast full scan.
But I'm still unclear about index full scan. 
I've always thought that this operation is serviced with 
1-block reads. So it would bepossible 
to go through 2-way list of leaf blocks.And if my memory
services me right the docs say the same 
about 1-block reads for IFS.
But dump file shows db scattered reads. I 
don't think that 11 blocks per read is due passing the extent 
boundaries
The LMTablespace has big extents (50Mb) 
andall such events have the same p3 = 11 in the trace file.
Certainly I should have given you much more 
info. I hadrestarted DB (shutdown immediately)before I got 
each 
tracefile. I just did it in order 
to clean db cache and catch 'db file %' 
waits during the following index scan.
So I did clean shutdown.I checked 
eachexecution plan.Also it's unlikely that someone modified this 
index at that time. 
I may be totally wrong here. Just my thoughts.

Thanks again I took your tips and will go 
into detail tomorrow.

Ed


Hi Ed I think, For full index scan, oracle server 
process reads the root block and branch blocks 1 block at a time. It reads the 
leaf blocks at a db file multiblock -read count blocks per read call. For 
the fast full scan, it reads all the block from the segment header to high water 
mark at a db_file_multiblock_read count blocks per read call. So, root blocks 
and branch blocks are read 1 block at a time, hence the db file sequential read. 
Where as for the fast full index scan you will see sequential read events only 
for the root block. Also, for the full index scan apparently knows about the 
extent boundary and if the next group of blocks to be read (in the current 
extent) is less than the db file multiblock read count , then it tries to read 
until the end of the current extent. That's why 11 blocks instead of 8 
blocks. For 
the 'db file parallel read' the segment read are file 1 block 11, which is a 
system rollback segment extent. If you dump the block, you could see the redo 
for index leaf operations. I guess, this is due to delayed instance recovery. 
All these, I 
found from dumping blocks and doing research myself. Steve,  
   Can you please clarify ? ThanksRiyaj "Re-yas" ShamsudeenCertified Oracle 
DBAi2 technologies  www.i2.com 


RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA

2001-05-17 Thread Kimberly Smith

Um, I can critize Canada all I want.  Matter of fact, its kind 
of a requirement.  So your first sentence is wrong.  I asked one
of the guys I work with here if he drinks a lot when he goes out
and he said Well, not for a Canadian.  He is Canadian.  (As am I)

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Only in America, can you rant!  Try to criticize China while living there.
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