Re: Windows ME and Net8

2001-06-05 Thread A. Bardeen

April,

According to the following note there aren't any db
server or client products currently supported on
Windows ME:

Note: 65995.1 Oracle Database Server Products for
Windows 95 / 98 / ME

Also the certification matrix on metalink doesn't
include Windows ME as an available platform.

HTH,

-- Anita


--- April Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have several clients, mostly running NT or 98,
 and we have been able to
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 to support from
 Metalink, but so far have been unable to get an
 answer.  Does anyone have
 any experience one way or another?
 
 Thank You
 April Wells
 
 
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 April,
 
 Here is the error message that I received when
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 Please make sure the 
 specified values for 'Source' and 'DESTINATION' are
 valid. 
 
 
 
 
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How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread Ranganath K

Dear DBA Gurus,

Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from committing a transaction unless
I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I insert a record into a
table and type exit from the sql prompt without commiting the transaction
and again open a new sqlplus session and select from that particular table
the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle from inserting into a table
unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note that I have set my sqlplus
session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table tablename nologging
but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me in this regard?

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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How to notify the firing a database trigger to the java application

2001-06-05 Thread Ranganath K

Dear DBA Gurus,

I have written an after update database trigger on a particular table.  The
trigger gets fired and does what I want.  However I want to know as to how
do I notify my java application that the trigger has fired?  Anybody can let
me know about this?  Any help in this regard will be  very much appreciated.

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An Apology

2001-06-05 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe



I started all that 
chocolate stuff after Ethans post.

Humble apologies to 
all concerned.

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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

HELP


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Who is Kevin Loney?

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Can't let that happen!  If that happened, there would be Tusc DB 1.0 and all
us oracle guru's will be useless against that product.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

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And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their 
recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list.


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and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest


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I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta GA. and Mike
Ault now works for TUSC also.
Ron Rogers
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I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC.


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RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread Vikas Kawatra


What you're seeing is an implicit commit !To prevent it - before exiting the
session , issue ROLLBACK;  then EXIT

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Dear DBA Gurus,

Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from committing a transaction
unless
I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I insert a record into a
table and type exit from the sql prompt without commiting the transaction
and again open a new sqlplus session and select from that particular table
the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle from inserting into a table
unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note that I have set my sqlplus
session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table tablename nologging
but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me in this regard?

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi Ranganath,

There are several situation for oracle to commit.

one of them of course you type 'commit;' manually
others can be :
when checkpoint occur
when switch redo log occur
when LRU function need to find space in your SGA
when shutdown normal (am I wrong ?, Oracle rollback or commit ? I think
oracle rollback uncommited transactions)
ect...


Sinardy


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Dear DBA Gurus,

Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from committing a transaction unless
I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I insert a record into a
table and type exit from the sql prompt without commiting the transaction
and again open a new sqlplus session and select from that particular table
the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle from inserting into a table
unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note that I have set my sqlplus
session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table tablename nologging
but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me in this regard?

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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RE: OCP Model Questions

2001-06-05 Thread Peter McLarty

That is because the underscore is now an illegal character in DNS records
needs to be a hyphen

What are the valid characters in a hostname?
Hostnames can contain letters, numbers, and hyphens, and may not start with
a hyphen. Underscore (_) is not a valid character in a hostname. While there
are some DNS server software packages available that allow underscore within
published host names, most do not. Using a domain or host name with an
underscore will cause most name servers on the Internet to stop recognizing
the related host/IP address

from the bind faq at
http://www.nominum.com/resources/faqs/bind-faqs.html#valid

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 I'm getting the following error
While trying to retrieve the URL:
http://smart_and_handsome.tripod.com/oracle.html

The following error was encountered:

Invalid URL
Some aspect of the requested URL is incorrect. Possible problems:

Missing or incorrect access protocol (should be `http://'' or similar)
Missing hostname
Illegal double-escape in the URL-Path
Illegal character in hostname; underscores are not allowed

Pl help.
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:44:25
 Krishna Kakatur wrote:
Hi,

I have got this response from many and checked that the site is OK.

May be the problem is with your proxy. I too can't access any site from my
office which has an underscore within url, not the case when I access from
my home. I think this is something to do with Proxy settings.

Please check if you can change proxy settings/ try alternate solutions.

-- Krishna


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the url does not work


On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:10:45
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 I have compiled some model questions for OCP DBA Test at
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 If you have more, I will be happy to add them to the Web Page.
 
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Re: create temporary tablespace question

2001-06-05 Thread Connor McDonald

Use the former...You don't have to back them up, you
can use them to have a read only standby, they do no
logging of any kind...Although not explicitly stated
in the manuals, I would say that they are the
successor of the latter.

hth
connor

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   and
 
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WAY OT. Graham Crackers

2001-06-05 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe



Anyone in the UK 
tell me if I can get Graham Crackers over here or the equivalent if they are 
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Re: Adding Indexes on Materialized views

2001-06-05 Thread Connor McDonald

You can but make sure they are non-unique, since
Oracle does not give any guarantees of uniqueness
during a refresh

hth
connor

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Re: Compute statisics

2001-06-05 Thread Connor McDonald

Sounds like nonsense to me...If you have half
statistics, then the optimizer is going to use
defaults for the others, which if anything, would (or
should) lead to less optimal access paths

It sounds like a weird attempt to get toward a first
rows kind of approach, ie they want a rule type
approach to small tables to keep indexes being used
...

Demand an explanation.

hth
connor

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 What affect could this possibly have on the system ?
 
 I thought you would want statistics on all objects
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Re: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Paul Drake

Sinardy Xing wrote:
 
 Is Oracle 9i free download ??
 
 Sinardy
 

yeah, the download is free - but you have to own a SPARC box to use it.

I saw a quote for the following - (refurbished)

E450
2 x 400 MHz CPUs - 4 MB cache
4 x 256 MB RAM
4 x 9.1 GB hard drives
SCSI controllers, fast ethernet, video adapter
OS kit

$12,000

Kinda steep when you're used to Intel boxes.
Looks like I might hunt on Ebay for awhile longer.

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Re: Windows ME and Net8

2001-06-05 Thread Paul Drake

Sounds like a 650 MB patch (W2K Pro) is required, followed by an 80 MB
patch (SP1).
If you're brave - you can finish it off with W2K SP2.

I did actually have a work-around for this.
It includes first using an Oracle 7.3.4 client to create an oracle_home.

But as its not a supported configuration - you're better off to use the
semi-univeral solution for windows boxes:

fdisk.

hth,

Paul

A. Bardeen wrote:
 
 April,
 
 According to the following note there aren't any db
 server or client products currently supported on
 Windows ME:
 
 Note: 65995.1 Oracle Database Server Products for
 Windows 95 / 98 / ME
 
 Also the certification matrix on metalink doesn't
 include Windows ME as an available platform.
 
 HTH,
 
 -- Anita
 
 --- April Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We have several clients, mostly running NT or 98,
  and we have been able to
  get Net8 to install fine.  Using the same CD, we
  cannot get it to install on
  Windows ME.  I have been trying to get an answer as
  to support from
  Metalink, but so far have been unable to get an
  answer.  Does anyone have
  any experience one way or another?
 
  Thank You
  April Wells
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:24 PM
  To: April Wells
 
 
 
  April,
 
  Here is the error message that I received when
  attempting to install Oracle
  8.1.6's Net on Windows ME.
 
  there was an problem in accessing the staging area.
  Please make sure the
  specified values for 'Source' and 'DESTINATION' are
  valid.
 
 
 
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RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread Vipul Lakhani

set autocommit off (in sqlplus)

and i'm not sure but cant you set this to be the default to happen in some
glogin.sql file ?

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Dear DBA Gurus,

Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from committing a transaction
unless
I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I insert a record into a
table and type exit from the sql prompt without commiting the transaction
and again open a new sqlplus session and select from that particular table
the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle from inserting into a table
unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note that I have set my sqlplus
session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table tablename nologging
but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me in this regard?

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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Re: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread A. Bardeen

Ranganath,

AFAIK, this can't be done.  A normal exit has an
implied commit.  Perhaps someone else can suggest a
way to do this programmatically.

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Ranganath K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear DBA Gurus,
 
   Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from
 committing a transaction unless
 I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I
 insert a record into a
 table and type exit from the sql prompt without
 commiting the transaction
 and again open a new sqlplus session and select from
 that particular table
 the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle
 from inserting into a table
 unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note
 that I have set my sqlplus
 session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table
 tablename nologging
 but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me
 in this regard?
 
 TIA and Regards,
 
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RE: Oracle 9i is on technet (NT)

2001-06-05 Thread MHately



Yeah,
I created my Solaris Intel CDs at the weekend but it won't help me with 9i
unfortunately 'cos the download's only for Sparc architecture.
Maybe I'll need to spend cash.  =(

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Re: RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread sfaroult

Alternatively, you can also use QUIT.

Stephane Faroult


What you're seeing is an implicit commit !To prevent it - before exiting the
session , issue ROLLBACK;  then EXIT

vikas

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Dear DBA Gurus,

   Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from committing a transaction
unless
I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I insert a record into a
table and type exit from the sql prompt without commiting the transaction
and again open a new sqlplus session and select from that particular table
the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle from inserting into a table
unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note that I have set my sqlplus
session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table tablename nologging
but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me in this regard?

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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Re: Steps for removing jobs

2001-06-05 Thread A. Bardeen

Simon,

You are correct, although I don't know if using the
DBMS_IJOB package directly is supported since it's a
wrapped package and is not included in the
documentation.

-- Anita

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 Usefull article, but it missed one useful bit...
 
 *  You can only manage your own jobs, even if you're
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 -Not quite true, check out the DBMS_IJOB package. 
 Does the same things as
 DBMS_JOB (submit, change  delete jobs, etc) but
 lets you specify the 'owning'
 user.  I found it in the O'Reilly Oracle Built-in
 Packages book
 
 It saves messing around with password-swapping and
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Re: RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread sfaroult

Sinardy,

   I am afraid that you are under a number of misconceptions, and confusing writing to 
disk and commiting. The former is something physical, and the later more logical, 
althought it is also accompanied by a physical write.
Whenever a disk flush occurs, the 'state' of your transaction is remembered 
(committed/uncommitted). As long as it's not committed, you can always rollback (or 
Oracle will do it for you if the machine crashes before you commit).
Concerning the shutdown, in a shutdown normal (hardly anybody uses it) Oracle waits 
for all users to have logged off. Since you must (implicitely or explicitely) take a 
decision about accepting or rejecting your changes when logging off from Oracle, it 
means that everybody has to rollback or commit (usually, the default behaviour is to 
rollback when disconnecting. The exception is the SQL*Plus EXIT which commits and logs 
off).
With the more widely used shutdown immediate, users are disconnected from Oracle (as 
they would be by say an operating system shutdown) and this forced disconnection comes 
with a rollback of pending transactions, then a flush of memory to disk.

HTH,

Stephane Faroult
Oriole Corporation

Hi Ranganath,

   There are several situation for oracle to commit.

one of them of course you type 'commit;' manually
others can be :
when checkpoint occur
when switch redo log occur
when LRU function need to find space in your SGA
when shutdown normal (am I wrong ?, Oracle rollback or commit ? I think
oracle rollback uncommited transactions)
ect...


Sinardy


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Dear DBA Gurus,

   Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from committing a transaction unless
I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I insert a record into a
table and type exit from the sql prompt without commiting the transaction
and again open a new sqlplus session and select from that particular table
the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle from inserting into a table
unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note that I have set my sqlplus
session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table tablename nologging
but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me in this regard?

TIA and Regards,

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Re: export causes segmentation fault

2001-06-05 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Hi,

Upload your ORA-7445 trace file by using iOraBugFinder.

regards...

"Nguyen, Long (ITS, Limestone Ave)" wrote:

 Hi,

 A friend of mine ran an export and got segmentation fault. It seems to be a bug with 
8.1.6 on Solaris 5.8 and relates to character sets. Below is the info supplied by 
him. Anyone has experienced the same problem or could give a suggestion
 what to  try? I searched Metalink and could not find any references to this problem.

 Thanks

 
  The database was created with charset and ncharset both set to
  WE8ISO8859P1:
 
  select * from NLS_DATABASE_PARAMETERS
 
  NLS_LANGUAGE AMERICAN
  NLS_TERRITORY AMERICA
  NLS_CURRENCY $
  NLS_ISO_CURRENCY AMERICA
  NLS_NUMERIC_CHARACTERS .,
  NLS_CHARACTERSET WE8ISO8859P1
  NLS_CALENDAR GREGORIAN
  NLS_DATE_FORMAT DD-MON-RR
  NLS_DATE_LANGUAGE AMERICAN
  NLS_SORT BINARY
  NLS_TIME_FORMAT HH.MI.SSXFF AM
  NLS_TIMESTAMP_FORMAT DD-MON-RR HH.MI.SSXFF AM
  NLS_TIME_TZ_FORMAT HH.MI.SSXFF AM TZH:TZM
  NLS_TIMESTAMP_TZ_FORMAT DD-MON-RR HH.MI.SSXFF AM TZH:TZM
  NLS_DUAL_CURRENCY $
  NLS_COMP BINARY
  NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET WE8ISO8859P1
  NLS_RDBMS_VERSION 8.1.6.0.0
 
  ---
 
  When exporting the largest table, IF the client has US7ASCII
  set as the nls charset, the export works fine:
 
  $ export NLS_LANG=American_America.US7ASCII
  $ exp
  Export: Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on Mon Jun 4 10:37:28 2001
  (c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.
  Username: aleg
  Password:
  Connected to: Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.0.0 - 64bit
  Production
  With the Partitioning option
  JServer Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production
  Enter array fetch buffer size: 4096  2560
  Export file: expdat.dmp  /tmp/x.dmp
  (2)U(sers), or (3)T(ables): (2)U  3
  Export table data (yes/no): yes 
  Compress extents (yes/no): yes 
  Export done in US7ASCII character set and WE8ISO8859P1 NCHAR character
  set
  server uses WE8ISO8859P1 character set (possible charset conversion)
  About to export specified tables via Conventional Path ...
  Table(T) or Partition(T:P) to be exported: (RETURN to quit) 
 topicrels
 
  . . exporting table  TOPICRELS4826389 rows
  exported
  Table(T) or Partition(T:P) to be exported: (RETURN to quit) 
 
  Export terminated successfully without warnings.
 
  ---
 
  Note the warning: "Export done in US7ASCII character set and
  WE8ISO8859P1
   NCHAR character set server uses WE8ISO8859P1 character set (possible
  charset conversion)", which I guess we expect!
 
  
 
  Now, if we set the client NLS_LANG to match the database, the export
  fails:
 
  $ export NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1
  $ exp
  Export: Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on Mon Jun 4 10:41:38 2001
  (c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.
  Username: aleg
  Password:
  Connected to: Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.0.0 - 64bit
  Production
  With the Partitioning option
  JServer Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production
  Enter array fetch buffer size: 4096  2560
  Export file: expdat.dmp  /tmp/x.dmp
  (2)U(sers), or (3)T(ables): (2)U  3
  Export table data (yes/no): yes 
  Compress extents (yes/no): yes 
  Export done in WE8ISO8859P1 character set and WE8ISO8859P1 NCHAR
  character set
  About to export specified tables via Conventional Path ...
  Table(T) or Partition(T:P) to be exported: (RETURN to quit) 
 topicrels
 
  . . exporting table  TOPICRELS4826389 rows
  exportedSegmen
  tation Fault
 
  
 
  Other tables are exported just fine.  The topicrels table looks like
  this:
 
  CREATE TABLE TOPICRELS (
FROMTIDVARCHAR2 (5)  NOT NULL,
TRTYPE VARCHAR2 (2)  NOT NULL,
TOTID  VARCHAR2 (5)  NOT NULL,
SEQNUMBER (4)DEFAULT 0,
UNCERTAIN  CHAR (1))
 TABLESPACE USERS NOLOGGING
 PCTFREE 1  PCTUSED 99  INITRANS 1  MAXTRANS 255 STORAGE (
 INITIAL 77725696   NEXT 4571136   PCTINCREASE 1   MINEXTENTS 1
 MAXEXTENTS 121   FREELISTS 1 FREELIST GROUPS 1 ) CACHE;
 
  It has 3 indices:
 
  CREATE INDEX TRFROMTOTYPE ON
TOPICRELS(FROMTID, TOTID, TRTYPE)
TABLESPACE INDX PCTFREE 1  STORAGE(INITIAL 151257088 NEXT 6160384
  PCTINCREASE 0 )
  ;
 
  CREATE INDEX TRFROMTYPESEQTOUNC ON
TOPICRELS(FROMTID, TRTYPE, SEQ, TOTID, UNCERTAIN)
TABLESPACE INDX PCTFREE 1  STORAGE(INITIAL 108134400 NEXT 6160384
  PCTINCREASE 0 )
  ;
 
  CREATE INDEX TRTOTYPEFROM ON
TOPICRELS(TOTID, TRTYPE, FROMTID)
TABLESPACE INDX PCTFREE 1  STORAGE(INITIAL 138936320 NEXT 6160384
  PCTINCREASE 0 )
  ;
 
 
  System info:
 
  oracle environment:
 
  NLS_LANG=American_America.US7ASCII
  ORACLE_BASE=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle
  ORACLE_DOC=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/doc
  ORACLE_HOME=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6
  ORACLE_SID=ALEG
 
 ORA_NLS33=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/ocommon/nls/admin/d
  ata
 
 PATH=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/bin:/etc:/usr/ccs/bin:/u
  sr/local/
 
 

Re: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread MHately



Hi,
If you set autocommit off it will rollback any uncommitted transactions by
default when you exit SQL*Plus.

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Row Chaining table fetch continued row

2001-06-05 Thread Rajesh Dayal

Hi all,
I am checking Row-Chaining in one of Production
Environment. But at the end I am not able to reconcile
my results. I would appreciate if someone help me doing 
that..

After analyzing one table I see that it has 4202 Chained Rows.

Then I run following SQL 

SQL select value
  2  from v$sysstat
  3  where name = 'table fetch continued row';

 VALUE
--
   951

SQL Select my.value
  2  From v$mystat my,
  3  V$sysstat sys
  4  Where my.statistic# = sys.statistic#
  5  And sys.name = 'table fetch continued row';

 VALUE
--
 0

Now I do 

SQL select * from prasanta.tdpsv ;

After this I run following queries again,

SQL Select my.value
  2  From v$mystat my,
  3  V$sysstat sys
  4  Where my.statistic# = sys.statistic#
  5  And sys.name = 'table fetch continued row'

 VALUE
--
 0

SQL select value
  2  from v$sysstat
  3  where name = 'table fetch continued row'

 VALUE
--
   960

Shouldn't the above two values be 4202 and 5153, as per 
description of 'table fetch continued row' ?? Am I 
missing something

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RE: How to add Composite Primary Key in a Table

2001-06-05 Thread Rahul

a table CANNOT have more than one PK,
drop the current and add a composite PK 

PRIMARY KEY (COL1,COL2...)


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RE: Last Login

2001-06-05 Thread Rahul

one way is to turn on the auditing, and check the logoff_time

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Re: Adding Indexes on Materialized views

2001-06-05 Thread A. Bardeen

That restriction was lifted in Oracle8 since
deferrable constraints were introduced.  Referential
integrity and unique constraints are allowed on
snapshots as long as they are created as deferrable
since, as Connor mentioned, the uniqueness cannot be
guaranteed during the refresh.  Non-unique indexes are
also allowed.

They are created the same way as on a normal table. 
In  8.0.x they're created on the SNAP$_ base table; in
8i the table name is identical to the snapshot/MV
name.

HTH,

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Re: ora-600

2001-06-05 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Thank you Deshpande,

It's nice to hear good results.

I genarally recommend search depth=1. Search depth=0 may return a lot of bugs
and it may take time to find which one is yours.

And,

You may not see all bugs. It depends on your license and bug status. Many bugs
are un-published(not only bugs, but also everythingl. This list has more
internals than Metalink). If iOraBugFinder returns no hit, email Oracle support
with HTML or URL returned by iOraBugFinder. Since Oracle support can see all
bugs, That will reduce your support response time from Oracle support.

I added new features on 1.0.1 version. It's now better to find bugs.

If you have any recommendations, please feel free to contact me.


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Re: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread Greg Moore

  Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from
  committing a transaction unless unless
  I explicitly commit it.

To do what you are asking, exit sql*plus with the command:

exit rollback

This will exit you from sql*plus and it will prevent Oracle from committing
a transaction unless you have already explicitly committed it.

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RE: Last Login

2001-06-05 Thread nlzanen1


Not sure if it was mentioned or not but I just came back from a few days of
and had to delete the hundreds of messages.

LISTENER.LOG file can tell you who logged on when

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RE: WAY OT. Graham Crackers

2001-06-05 Thread Mark Leith

Lee,

www.madeinamerica.co.uk

Go to the online catalogue section, and then the choose the Sweets 
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Re: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction - Solved

2001-06-05 Thread Ranganath K

Hi DBA Gurus,

The following soultion worked for me:  Exit Rollback. My special thanks to
Marco Rooy van and Ray O'Brien for providing the solution.

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RE: ora-600

2001-06-05 Thread A. Bardeen

Kevin,

ORA-600's and ORA-7445's are very similar in some
respects in that they are related to the death of a
process.

ORA-600's are essentially exception handlers so there
are literally thousands of different ORA-600's.  Some
errors are signaled in only one situation, others can
occur in hundreds of cases.  

An ORA-7445 is merely the Oracle error assigned to the
return code when the OS terminates the process (bad
process!).  BTW, ORA-7445's are not signaled on NT,
NetWare or Linux.  Instead, the following errors are
signaled: Dr. Watson errors (NT), abends (NetWare) or 
Errors in file... entries in the alert.log and trace
files containing Exception signal... (Linux).

With ORA-600's the first argument is very specific, so
when searching on metalink include the first argument.
 Any additional arguments are specific to the
environment (DBA's, object ID's, memory addresses,
etc...) so they should not be searched on since they
are unlikely to be the same.

The arguments on ORA-7445 errors are usually
irrelevant as they are frequently generic ([SIGSEGV],
[SIGBUS], [Address not mapped to object], [Invalid
address alignment] etc...).

If you can identify the type of operation generating
the error, then it helps to search on that along with
the error.  In some cases this will be in the trace
file under the heading Current SQL statement for this
session.

These errors frequently indicate bugs, but can also
occur due to other reasons such as hardware/OS
problems, corruption, or incorrect environment
settings.  For example, a corrupt block can signal an
ORA-600 error because the information in the header of
the block is out of sync.

The best way to determine the cause of these errors is
to log a tar with support as much of the information
in the bugs is viewable only to support.  They will
need the alert.log (preferably going back to the last
startup, but at least the last 3-10 days) along with
the trace files generated (upload the whole file,
don't just cut and paste portions of it).

In the case of multiple errors in the alert.log,
supply the trace files from the first couple of errors
as often the first error can cause cascading errors.

If a trace file is not generated by an ORA-7445, then
you should try to extract a stack trace from the core
file (see notes 1812.1 and 1007808.6).  This needs to
be done using the executables that generated the core
file, so don't bother sending the core file to
support.  

I'm developing this into a presentation that I hope to
present at OpenWorld (ORA-3113's, 600's, and 7445's
Oh My!) so please feel free to send me questions or
topics  I should cover.

HTH,

-- Anita

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Re: Size, what is it?

2001-06-05 Thread Mogens Nørgaard

One of the guys that used to work for me in Premium Services, Martin Berg,
once had this idea that you could measure the number of logical IO's (LIO's)
per CPU per hour on a system. Scanning V$SQL and measuring the % of cpu time
being used at the same time could give you an idea.

At least this will provide a unit of work that can be related to an Oracle
database, although the idea has more buts and ifs than Denmark has rainy days.
Whether you're doing OLTP or batch jobs, your unit would still be LIO's...

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  Hi Mogens
 
I agree with all your statements.
 
What I am trying to figure out is what is it that streches the
machine. I was quite surprised to see an E450 doing 10GB of
transaction logs per day. Pure OLTP using stored procs.
 
I was hoping to get descriptions of the types and amounts of work
a large or busy database does along with the description of
the hardware that is being used. This would allow a baseline to
be developed for estimating.
 
For example how much OLTP work can a Linux 2 CPU machine with
lots of memory do? How many DSS users can a similar machine
support? I would also like to ask similar questions about other
UNIX configurations? VAX/VMS would also be interesting.
NT, someone else can do the work if they want :)
 
SUN is also now offering hardware RAID 3 in their RSM2000 array.
As I mentioned the Baydel array beats RAID 5 easily, and is
substantially cheaper than an equivalent RAID 10 (1+0) array
which is my preference. (and everyone elses :)
 
Thanks for your input.
 
  Dave
 
 
  Mogens wrote ...
 
   My dear friend Cary Millsap once came up with a definition for a VLDB:
  It's any
   database that stretches its hardware.
 
   I cannot see any relationship between SGA and database sizes. None.
 
   RAID-3: Bit-level striping. Incredible it still exists (in my opinion)
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RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread MHately



Wow, you're right.

Let this be a warning to you all; this is what happens to your brain when you
mess with DB2. Just say no kids.

= )

Thanks,

Mike







Hi Mike,

   I was also thinking so.  But it doesn't do so.  Setting autocommit
off will
implicitly commit all your transactions for that session.  For doing this I
tried exit rollback as suggested by Marco, one of the list members.

Thanks and Regards,

Ranganath



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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile people, they will
probably survive the recession.  : )

TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in Chicago I think.
They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one somewhere.

I don't know as much about Quest.

So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these good authors
now fall under the wing of database consulting firms?  Quest through
O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press?  Steven Feuerstein used to publish
via O'Reilly.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of
their 
recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit
list.


As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at
Quest are:
Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL
tuning'
fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), 

And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney,
Mike
Ault, ...

So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle
Support
Services?

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Re: ora-600

2001-06-05 Thread Mogens Nørgaard

I worked with RDBMS support in Oracle Denmark for far too many years, and I'm
not that scared of 600's anymore. To provoke a bit, I find that they are in
general harmless, and then in some cases indicate serious stuff.

When looking at Oracle source code, you will (if you ever get the chance :) )
see this kind of thing:

If then signal ORA-942 (or rather OERR(00942))
   if  something unforeseen happens, signal 600 with specific arguments
(OERI(17112))
Else... signal ORA-1000 (OERR(01000))

Of course I'm making up these numbers, but the two functions called are OERR
for normal errors and OERI for Oracle ERror Internal. So the ora-00600
[17112] is because the normal error codes couldn't handle the situation.

So the first argument for an ora-600 error is the error code and is indeed
specific for a certain part of the Oracle code. Support/Development can
easily look up where in the code this is signalled, but it can be very
difficult to find out why it was signalled (I'm saying this, because I rarely
could figure it out - of course all the smart types could, but I couldn't).

In the case of ORA-00600 [17112], however, I do have some notes:

Internal heap errors/corruptions:
[17066]
[17112]
[17114]
[17148]
[17182]…
E.g. “BAD MAGIC NUMBER” in trace file

So look in the trace file for BAD MAGIC NUMBER and you will know that a
problem occurred in the heap. There can of course be a lot of reasons for
this magic number to give errors when computed. Check the bug database or
Support for specifics. But it's not fatal or anything.

A. Bardeen wrote:

 Kevin,

 ORA-600's and ORA-7445's are very similar in some
 respects in that they are related to the death of a
 process.

 ORA-600's are essentially exception handlers so there
 are literally thousands of different ORA-600's.  Some
 errors are signaled in only one situation, others can
 occur in hundreds of cases.

 An ORA-7445 is merely the Oracle error assigned to the
 return code when the OS terminates the process (bad
 process!).  BTW, ORA-7445's are not signaled on NT,
 NetWare or Linux.  Instead, the following errors are
 signaled: Dr. Watson errors (NT), abends (NetWare) or
 Errors in file... entries in the alert.log and trace
 files containing Exception signal... (Linux).

 With ORA-600's the first argument is very specific, so
 when searching on metalink include the first argument.
  Any additional arguments are specific to the
 environment (DBA's, object ID's, memory addresses,
 etc...) so they should not be searched on since they
 are unlikely to be the same.

 The arguments on ORA-7445 errors are usually
 irrelevant as they are frequently generic ([SIGSEGV],
 [SIGBUS], [Address not mapped to object], [Invalid
 address alignment] etc...).

 If you can identify the type of operation generating
 the error, then it helps to search on that along with
 the error.  In some cases this will be in the trace
 file under the heading Current SQL statement for this
 session.

 These errors frequently indicate bugs, but can also
 occur due to other reasons such as hardware/OS
 problems, corruption, or incorrect environment
 settings.  For example, a corrupt block can signal an
 ORA-600 error because the information in the header of
 the block is out of sync.

 The best way to determine the cause of these errors is
 to log a tar with support as much of the information
 in the bugs is viewable only to support.  They will
 need the alert.log (preferably going back to the last
 startup, but at least the last 3-10 days) along with
 the trace files generated (upload the whole file,
 don't just cut and paste portions of it).

 In the case of multiple errors in the alert.log,
 supply the trace files from the first couple of errors
 as often the first error can cause cascading errors.

 If a trace file is not generated by an ORA-7445, then
 you should try to extract a stack trace from the core
 file (see notes 1812.1 and 1007808.6).  This needs to
 be done using the executables that generated the core
 file, so don't bother sending the core file to
 support.

 I'm developing this into a presentation that I hope to
 present at OpenWorld (ORA-3113's, 600's, and 7445's
 Oh My!) so please feel free to send me questions or
 topics  I should cover.

 HTH,

 -- Anita

 --- Kevin Kostyszyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, is the answer for all ORA 600's, I have
  noticed there are different
  ones.  One of my fellow employees just called me and
  told me that the
  production instance at a clients site just went down
  with ORA 600.  He said
  that it said in paren's, (with complications).  Now
  what in the good lords
  name does that mean?  I looked on Metasuck and I
  haven't seen anything.  Is
  the only answer to call support, or just hammer away
  until he figures it
  out?  Anyone seen this before. And yes I know, it
  8.1.5 on NT..
  Kev
 
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  Hi,
  It 

OT survival of mankind without DSL

2001-06-05 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Because in the past, well-written software used to fit on one or two 320K
diskettes.

None of that bloated-code API, object-oriented nonsense that just lets
people come out with new versions every six months.

: )

Patrice Boivin
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I believe that a cable modem or a DSL are the best download
accelerators on
the market. Doing that with a 56k modem is a suicide. From this
perspective,
I cannot
comprehend how did the mankind survive before the advent of DSL.


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contents of SGA

2001-06-05 Thread C.S.Venkata Subramanian

One of my co-worker came with this ques. In the init.ora file he had set the 
shared_pool_size to 10M and db_block_buffers=1024 and redolog buffer to 32768. but 
when he did sho sga in the sql*plus prompt he got the following output 

Total System Global Area   41297948 bytes
Fixed Size75804 bytes
Variable Size  32755712 bytes
Database Buffers8388608 bytes
Redo Buffers  77824 bytes

Doing a select on V$SGA also gave the same result.

My shared pool size is only 10M, why it is showing nearly 40M. From where did oracle 
derive the extra MB's? I ran throu the oracle manual and got only answer for database 
buffers.

Can any one tell from where these extra MB's come to Oracle from the OS.

TIA

Venkat


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Messing with DB2

2001-06-05 Thread Greg Moore

 mess with DB2

The common question used to be, Oracle?, or Informix or Sybase?

Now mentions of DB2 keep popping up.

Hmmm

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Re: Row Chaining table fetch continued row

2001-06-05 Thread Mogens Nørgaard

v$tables will report what the system or session has encountered since
instance startup. Analyze or similar will report the actual number in the
table.

If an instance has been running for several days and the ...fetch
continued row... is low, why bother?

Rajesh Dayal wrote:

 Hi all,
 I am checking Row-Chaining in one of Production
 Environment. But at the end I am not able to reconcile
 my results. I would appreciate if someone help me doing
 that..

 After analyzing one table I see that it has 4202 Chained Rows.

 Then I run following SQL

 SQL select value
   2  from v$sysstat
   3  where name = 'table fetch continued row';

  VALUE
 --
951

 SQL Select my.value
   2  From v$mystat my,
   3  V$sysstat sys
   4  Where my.statistic# = sys.statistic#
   5  And sys.name = 'table fetch continued row';

  VALUE
 --
  0

 Now I do

 SQL select * from prasanta.tdpsv ;

 After this I run following queries again,

 SQL Select my.value
   2  From v$mystat my,
   3  V$sysstat sys
   4  Where my.statistic# = sys.statistic#
   5  And sys.name = 'table fetch continued row'

  VALUE
 --
  0

 SQL select value
   2  from v$sysstat
   3  where name = 'table fetch continued row'

  VALUE
 --
960

 Shouldn't the above two values be 4202 and 5153, as per
 description of 'table fetch continued row' ?? Am I
 missing something

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Re: Last Login

2001-06-05 Thread Mogens Nørgaard

And then of course you have the wonderful 8i feature of logoff  triggers. We use them 
to catch various session
waits (v$session_Event) right before they log out.

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 Not sure if it was mentioned or not but I just came back from a few days of
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 LISTENER.LOG file can tell you who logged on when

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OT -- Oracle in trouble? muses the ERP newsletter

2001-06-05 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I received this as part of an ERP newsletter:

Street Fight: Oracle
http://www.erpcentral.com http://www.erpcentral.com  
Forbes.com, June 4, 2001
With sagging earnings and lack of guidance for its soon-to-be-announced
fourth quarter, Oracle has been slapped with no less than nine analyst
downgrades since early March. Shares of the database software provider have
dropped 67% from their 52-week high, giving the stock a latest 12-month
price-to-earnings ratio of just 14. Is it time to buy America's
second-largest independent software concern?

The fight is on.

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Re: Messing with DB2

2001-06-05 Thread MHately



I'm having my first brush with it and it's a bit of a shift. Seeing as IBM now
own Informix I'd expect them to rip off its features and incorporate them into
DB2.
First impressions are that it's easy to set up a default database but not as
tunable as Oracle but having said that I'm at no great depth yet. It has some
handy features but its core architecture doesn't seem as good as Oracle's.
Anyway, it looks like it may be a contender in years to come.
The latest version, 7.2 was scheduled for release this week.
Given that the previous version is available for Linux and IBM are forging
closer links with the Linux community I'll be amazed if Oracle don't release 9i
for Linux fairly quickly. I'd have it next on the release schedule if I were in
charge.

Hopefully, I'll manage some sort of comparison paper of the 2 products when I
get time and a little more production exposure to DB2.

Regards,
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Re: Steps for removing jobs

2001-06-05 Thread Simon . Anderson



There's a note on Metalink that outlines it and states that it's not supported,
not documented in the Oracle manuals and that the 'supported' method of
manipulating jobs is as the jobs owner.

Seems strange to me, but Ours is not to reason why...

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Re: Last Login

2001-06-05 Thread A. Bardeen

Mogens,

What a brilliant idea!  I'll definitely add this to my
bag of tricks.

-- Anita

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RE: Shared Pool info - V$sqlarea.

2001-06-05 Thread Raj Gopalan

Thanks Chris.

The problem I am facing is 100% CPU usage and memory paging out at times. I
tought the starting point is v$sqlarea. Purchasing of Precise SQL or SQL
Vision can not happen here immediately. The RAM size is 512MB and SGA is
210MB. The buffer cache hit ratio is 99%. 

I was just wondering is there any way to find out the cause of this problem?

TIA

Cheers

Raj

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Oracle has no guarentee how long statistics and plans will be available for
statements, depending on the activity of the database they may be there for
2 seconds they may be there for 2 weeks.

Products like Precise SQL and SQL Vision Lab help in that manor where they
capture transactions and activity continuously in a non-intrusive manor.
This is the only guarenteed way to get 99.999% of the transactions.


Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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DBAs

The statistics in v$sqlarea is getting flushed very often. 

In the morning I found the a query which has more than 10,000 disk reads as
the top one. But now the top most query with disk reads has not more than
100 disk reads. I have not bouncd the DB or flushed the shared pool. The
overall library cache hit ratio is 97%.where us SQLAREA hit ratio is 60%.

Any Idea what could be reason?

TIA,

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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Rachel Carmichael

they aren't broken down quite like that -- Gaja works for Quest but is 
published by Oracle Press, Mike Ault is published by neither...


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If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile people, they will
probably survive the recession.  : )

TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in Chicago I think.
They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one somewhere.

I don't know as much about Quest.

So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these good authors
now fall under the wing of database consulting firms?  Quest through
O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press?  Steven Feuerstein used to publish
via O'Reilly.

Regards,
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   And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of
their
   recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit
list.
   

   As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at
Quest are:
   Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL
tuning'
   fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), 

   And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney,
Mike
   Ault, ...

   So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle
Support
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RE: How to notify the firing a database trigger to the java appli

2001-06-05 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Openworld 2000 had a paper on using dbms_alerts to notify java client. In
the trigger you could raise a dbms_alert and capture that in your java
application.

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RE:Spotlite question

2001-06-05 Thread Ron Rogers


I think you are confusing the Server and the Client information. The client that runs 
the Spotlite has to be Windows 95/98/2000/NT. 
 I have Spotlite monitoring a Novell server. I worked with the spotlite development 
team for release 2.c that limited the trace file naming convention to 8 char. It works 
great.
From my pc Win 98 I can monitor the production database and development database 
(Novell) and a test server (Linux)
ROR mª¿ªm

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 10:15PM 
Nick,

Does spotlight support an Oracle server running on NT?

The requirements page says:

Server
Oracle versions from 7.3.3 and above 
Solaris (2.5, 2.6, 2.7) 
HP-UX (10.20, 11.00/32 bit, 11.00/64 bit) 
AIX (4.2, 4.3) 
Digital (v4.0d, v4.0f)   

which seems to me to say the Oracle server must be running on Unix and not
NT.

but then the PDF data sheet says 


Spotlight requires Windows 95/98/2000/NT and a SQL*Net connection to any
Oracle server (7.3.3 or greater)


Which is correct?

Thanks,
Bruce Reardon
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you can download a free fully functional trial version of Spotlight on
Oracle from the Quest Website at http://www.quest.com/spotlight_oracle/ 
there is a link to 'download trial' on the left hand side.  You can click on
the screenshot to get  a full size image... but it will tell you everything
you need to know about your instance... and what init.ora parameters you can
change to improve it. 
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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Thater, William

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001,Ari D Kaplan scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-At TUSC, there are more authors than Rich Niemiec, Mike Ault, and Kevin
-Loney. There are also Brad Brown, Joe Trezzo, Tony Catalano.
-
--Ari

well, damn there goes any hope of me getting in with TUSC.;-)
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RE: how to run procedure containig REF CURSOR as datatype

2001-06-05 Thread Harvinder Singh

Tom,

I used ur suggestion but i am still getting the same error.
I am running the procedure from sqlplus
Do i have to modify something to run from sqlplus..
ORA-01790: expression must have same datatype as corresponding
expression.

Thanks
Harvinder

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Harvinder,

change your script like this:

 declare
 io_cursor getrateschedules_pkg.t_cursor;  ==  change the reference
to
the cursor declared
in the
package body.
 begin
 getrateschedules_pkg.getrateschedules(1,2,3,sysdate,4,io_cursor);
 end;
 /

we do this all the time for ref cursors used by VB.

hope this helps

Tom Mercadante
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Hi,

What value to pass as io_cursor in the following procedureHow to run the
procedures containing REF CURSOR..

create or replace package GetRateSchedules_pkg as
 TYPE t_cursor is REF CURSOR;
 procedure GetRateSchedules( temp_id_acc int,acc_cycle_id
int,default_pl int,RecordDate date,temp_id_pi_type int,io_cursor in out
t_cursor);
 end;



i am getting error when i run the following code:

 declare
 TYPE t_cursor is REF CURSOR;
 io_cursor t_cursor;
 begin
 getrateschedules_pkg.getrateschedules(1,2,3,sysdate,4,io_cursor);
 end;
 /

ORA-01790: expression must have same datatype as corresponding
expression.

Thanks
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OT: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam

What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big 
company also?

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: dinsdag 5 juni 2001 15:31
 Aan: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Onderwerp: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
 
 
 they aren't broken down quite like that -- Gaja works for 
 Quest but is 
 published by Oracle Press, Mike Ault is published by neither...
 
 
 From: Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 03:45:24 -0800
 
 If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile 
 people, they will
 probably survive the recession.  : )
 
 TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in 
 Chicago I think.
 They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one 
 somewhere.
 
 I don't know as much about Quest.
 
 So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these 
 good authors
 now fall under the wing of database consulting firms?  Quest through
 O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press?  Steven Feuerstein 
 used to publish
 via O'Reilly.
 
 Regards,
 Patrice Boivin
 Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
 
 Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
 Technology Services| Services technologiques
 Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
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  Subject:RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
 
  
  And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of
 their
  recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is 
 on the hit
 list.
  
 
  As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at
 Quest are:
  Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from 
 the 'Oracle SQL
 tuning'
  fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), 
 
  And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), 
 Kevin Loney,
 Mike
  Ault, ...
 
  So is this coalition a viable alternative to the 
 all-knowing Oracle
 Support
  Services?
 
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Re: connecting problems: ORA-12154: Could not resolve servicename

2001-06-05 Thread Scott Canaan

Mikael,
Did you set up the tnsnames.ora on the server?  You need that in order to
use the @mtipdb_tcp when you connect.  If you can connect to the database
without the @ clause, then I'd check the tnsnames.ora.

Mikael Granhed wrote:

 Hi!

 I have just installed Oracle8.06 on SUN/Solaris server. The installation of
 the database was successfull. But when I´m checking the connection with the
 listener with the command sqlplus system/manager@mtipdb_tcp. I got the
 following error: ORA-12154: Could not resolve servicename.

 I have also tried to connect to the server from a NT-client and that works
 fine.

 It seems to be some problem with the internal connection on the server.
 Maybe it is a parameter that is not set correctly?

 Does anybody know what the problem can be?

 Thanks in advance!

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RE: connecting problems: ORA-12154: Could not resolve servicenam

2001-06-05 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: connecting problems: ORA-12154: Could not resolve servicename





Mikael, 


Do you have tnsnames.ora set up on your unix host? Any time you do '@' in your connect string it is connecting via a listener. That's why you can (most likely) connect by setting your ORACLE_SID in your environment on the local host and typing sqlplus system/manager and not sqlplus system/manager@SIDNAME.

Put the correct entry in your tnsnames.ora in the $TNS_ADMIN directory ($ORACLE_HOME/network/admin) and it should work. 

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Hi!


I have just installed Oracle8.06 on SUN/Solaris server. The installation of
the database was successfull. But when I´m checking the connection with the
listener with the command sqlplus system/manager@mtipdb_tcp. I got the
following error: ORA-12154: Could not resolve servicename. 


I have also tried to connect to the server from a NT-client and that works
fine. 


It seems to be some problem with the internal connection on the server.
Maybe it is a parameter that is not set correctly?


Does anybody know what the problem can be?


Thanks in advance!


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Re: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread Jim Hawkins

Keep in mind that if at any point you issue any DDL command, a commit is 
automatically performed.  For example, if you open a SQL*Plus session, 
insert a few records, then do an alter table ..., those records will be 
committed.

Just a thought...

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 Dear DBA Gurus,
 
   Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from committing a transaction 
unless
 I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I insert a record into 
a
 table and type exit from the sql prompt without commiting the transaction
 and again open a new sqlplus session and select from that particular table
 the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle from inserting into a 
table
 unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note that I have set my 
sqlplus
 session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table tablename nologging
 but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me in this regard?
 
 TIA and Regards,
 
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Difference in speed of sorting using index and non-index column in the order by

2001-06-05 Thread KC




Dear list,

Someone ask me when Oracle is doing a 
sort, will it make a difference if we use indexed column and non-indexes column 
in the order by clause, my initial thinking was index only speed up the 
retrieval of data from disk, Oracle probably using other algorithm in 
sorting records, so indexing is not relevant in that case. Can someone shed 
light on this question.

KC


RE: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Ivan_Rivera
Title: RE: 9i download





Paul and all others interested. Ebay seems to be a great source for used sun boxes, I've also noticed at sun's site they have a new workstation for $999. Now of course you'd probably need more ram but this setup looks like it can handle and run 9i, etc for testing purposes at home. Hardware guys out there could you determine if this is enough? Thanks. Ivan Rivera

http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/BrowsePage.jhtml?cid=60357=Desktops





dbms_java and file permissions

2001-06-05 Thread Brian Wisniewski
8.1.7.1 on Solaris 7 I created a small java procedure to be able to call O/S commands from within the database (using Ask Tom's example). Works a little too well because I can't seem to restrict access to the oracle directories which is obviously a major concern. Here are the list of privileges I granted/restricted to the owner of the java procedure. KIND GRANTE TYPE_ TYPE_NAME NAME ACTION  -- - -- -- - GRANT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /export/home/oracle/bsw/scripts/java read RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle read,write,execute,delete RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle/ read,write,execute,delete RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle/* read,write,execute,delete RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle/- read,writ!
!
e,execute,delete RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle/test* read,write,execute,delete RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle/testjunk.file read,write,execute,delete GRANT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /usr/bin/* execute GRANT TISSD SYS java.lang.RuntimePermission * writeFileDescriptor 9 rows selected.
As you can see I tried numerous ways to restrict access to /u20/app/oracle files and had very limited luck. Each time I added a new restriction I logged out of the tissd account and back in. On the flip side I had to grant access to /export/home/oracle/bsw/scripts/java to allow files to be read there. I don't understand why unlimited access is being allowed to the files which should be the most restricted. The tissd user was NOT granted DBA privs nor the JAVASYSPRIV or JAVAUSERPRIV roles.I've read the 8.1.7 Java Developers Guide Chapter 5 on security and haven't found the answer there either.
This worked, which I didn't think it should.
SQL exec rc('/usr/bin/ls /u20/app/oracle');adminjreoraInventoryoradataouiproducttestfile.junkReturn code is 0
And this failed.
SQL exec rc('/usr/bin/ls /u20/app/oracle/*');Return code is 2
Doing an ls on the file failed
SQL exec rc('/usr/bin/ls /u20/app/oracle/testjunk.file');Return code is 2
But moving it worked fine. AAUUUGGGHHH!!!
SQL exec rc('/usr/bin/mv /u20/app/oracle/testjunk.file /u20/app/oracle/testfile.junk');Return code is 0

Just your regular ol' IDIOT asking for HELP.

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Oracle Enterprise Manager

2001-06-05 Thread Barry Stubbs

I am a little confused.  Is the Oracle Enterprise Manager part of Oracle 8i 
(8.1.7) Standard Edition or do I have to pay extra for it?  Thanks.

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iAS installation update

2001-06-05 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

FYI,

I logged a TAR with Oracle last week or so because one Metalink tech had
said in passing that Forms and Reports had to go into its own, separate
oracle_home.  This follows from a previous TAR I had logged with them,
simply asking which products work best together.

I had read the installation manual for iAS and had earlier found this:

Note: Be sure not to install Oracle9i Application Server in an Oracle_home
containing other Oracle products, including the database.  Such an
installation could overwrite shared components, causing the products to
malfunction.  (on p. 3-5, 4-5, 5-5).

Now, in Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started - Release 6i for Windows,
it says:

Reports Developer 6i must reside in the default oracle_home.
Reports Developer 6i and the Oracle8 or Oracle8i server must reside in
separate oracle_Homes, although they can reside on the same physical
machine.
Similarly, in a web application deployment, Report Server and Oracle
Application Server must reside in separate oracle_homes, although they can
reside on the same physical machine. (p.1-16)


Forms and Reports 6i happen to require an Oracle 8.0.6. oracle_home.

This posed a dilemma:  how can I install iAS in the default home, when many
of its components require access to an origin database.  I do not plan to
use iAS with 8.0.6., I plan to use it with 8.1.7..

I thought I would have to install Forms and Reports 6i first, remove the
tidbits that the Oracle Universal Installer installs by default, then
install 8.1.7., and then install the iSuite components.  Of course by the
end of this tortuous process there were errors.

I had a different Metalink technician this time, who told me to ignore what
the first technician had said, and to just install iAS based on the
installation manual, never mind the other worries that I had.

So, I am ignoring the Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started manual, and I
am installing based on the iAS installation manual.

Hopefully that will work.

/begin rant
I still wish the Oracle techs could have told me which versions of the
various products are concurrent, they just keep insisting that all their
products are certified to work together.  All I wanted to know was which
oracle_home type do the various products use?  Forms and Reports 6i requires
an 8.0.6. home, Developer6 used an 8.0.5 home, etc. the Metalink techs do
not appear to have a list, they didn't understand my question.  When I
logged a TAR on this I received three e-mails telling me that my TAR had
been passed to different people, in the end the last tech told me that
products sometimes are released together, but that it is not all that
important, because everything is certified to work together.

I can't shake the feeling that iAS is a bundle of things that were just
slapped together.  Seeing the old installer pop up during the installation
doesn't help remove that impression.  Hopefully when the next release comes
out it will install in something other than an (old) Oracle 8.0.6.
oracle_home.  Since it's called Oracle9i iAS, maybe the Forms and Reports
Servers will go into a 9i oracle_home (?).
/end rant

(this is my impression, not my employer's etc. etc.)

Sorry if this comes across as a little harsh.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-05 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: Thanks everyone - tru64





I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who responded to me when I asked for info on tru64 Unix. I received much more info and feedback than I ever expected! 

This list is extremely helpful and I am very appreciative of how willing people are to answer questions. I just hope I contribute enough to make up for how much everyone here has helped me.

HELP!


Have a great day, all.


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Re: RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread Diana_Duncan


Yeah, that's what I was going to suggest.  QUIT used to do an exit without
a commit, but now it commits it just like EXIT does.  I wonder why they
changed that?  Now they are just synonyms of one another.

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Alternatively, you can also use QUIT.

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What you're seeing is an implicit commit !To prevent it - before exiting
the
session , issue ROLLBACK;  then EXIT

vikas

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Dear DBA Gurus,

  Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from committing a
transaction
unless
I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I insert a record into
a
table and type exit from the sql prompt without commiting the transaction
and again open a new sqlplus session and select from that particular table
the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle from inserting into a
table
unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note that I have set my
sqlplus
session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table tablename nologging
but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me in this regard?

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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Re: OT: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Rachel Carmichael

as far as I know, Steve still works for Ixora, which is his own company


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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:35:30 -0800

What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big
company also?

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  Onderwerp: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
 
 
  they aren't broken down quite like that -- Gaja works for
  Quest but is
  published by Oracle Press, Mike Ault is published by neither...
 
 
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  If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile
  people, they will
  probably survive the recession.  : )
  
  TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in
  Chicago I think.
  They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one
  somewhere.
  
  I don't know as much about Quest.
  
  So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these
  good authors
  now fall under the wing of database consulting firms?  Quest through
  O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press?  Steven Feuerstein
  used to publish
  via O'Reilly.
  
  Regards,
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 And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of
  their
 recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is
  on the hit
  list.
 
  
 As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at
  Quest are:
 Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from
  the 'Oracle SQL
  tuning'
 fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), 
  
 And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?),
  Kevin Loney,
  Mike
 Ault, ...
  
 So is this coalition a viable alternative to the
  all-knowing Oracle
  Support
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RE: Difference in speed of sorting using index and non-index colu

2001-06-05 Thread Toepke, Kevin M

KC:
 
In some cases, Oracle can use an index to read the data in sorted order,
thereby eliminating the need for the SORT operation. Check your EXPLAIN
PLANs. If there is a SORT step listed, then Oracle is doing a sort, if not
(and there is a ORDER BY clause on your query) then Oracle is using the
index to read the data in sorted order.
 
Kevin

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the order by


Dear list,
 
Someone ask me when Oracle is doing a sort, will it make a difference if we
use indexed column and non-indexes column in the order by clause, my initial
thinking was index only speed up the retrieval of data from disk,  Oracle
probably using other algorithm in sorting records, so indexing is not
relevant in that case. Can someone shed light on this question.
 
KC

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How to drop a system event trigger - endless loop?

2001-06-05 Thread Andor, Gyula

Hi Gurus !

I created a trigger on logon event. The trigger seems to be falling into an
endless loop, so I can't login. How colud I drop this trigger. I created
this trigger with ON DATABASE clause.

Thanks in advance
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Oracle 9iAS

2001-06-05 Thread Charlie Mengler

I thought I had heard that the Oracle Enterprise Manager Tuning Pack
is/was included as part of the Oracle 9iApplication Server bundle.

Out of the two dozen+ CDs I have not yet been able to find any
EOM packs. 

If any OEM packs are included, on which CD can it be found?

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Cannot start Oracle Management Server on Windows NT

2001-06-05 Thread Paul Vincent

Hi folks,

I've just finished creating a Release 2.2 OMS repository on an 8.1.6
database on a Windows NT server machine. Following the Configuration Guide I
then tried to start the Managament Server service, and in the text window I
got the message:

... c:\orant\admin\orb\resources.ora is not found!

VXA-3008 : Starting OMS Services, Wait.

The OMS is now started and ready.

A bit worried by the not found message, I opened another DOS window and
tried typing oemctrl status oms, and got the same message about the
resources.ora being not found.

Now, looking at my directory structure, there IS a file whose full path is:

c:\orant\orb\admin\resources.ora

but there is no c:\orant\orb directory.

Anybody got any ideas what is screwed up here? Or does anyone have any
references for technical notes at Oracle's tech support sites about this
problem? I've tried looking, but can't seem to formulate a search that
yields any results!

Hope you can help!

Paul


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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Steve Adams

Hi All,

No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the commercial DBA union!
The pre-announcement is at http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:6

@   Regards,
@   Steve Adams
@   http://www.ixora.com.au/
@   http://www.christianity.net.au/

PS. This is a joke for the benefit of those who have been following the LazyDBA
issues.

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What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big
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RE: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Mike J Kurth


I guess I was thinking of IAS 9I.


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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney





So is Rachel, but last I heard she wasn't
taking them too seriously.



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 Subject: Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney
 
 
 And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their 
 recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the 
 hit list.
 
 
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 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800
 
 and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest
 
 
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 I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta 
 GA. and Mike
 Ault now works for TUSC also.
 Ron Rogers
 ROR mª¿ªm
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 02:51PM 
 I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works 
 for TUSC.
 
 
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Re: OT RE: Database writer

2001-06-05 Thread Jerry C

So... no winner Ross?

Do we get the answer??


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 Yea, NT blows. Blows like a fresh wind against the empire. 
 
 
 (1st one to name that song lyric reference and i buy you a beer. 
  NT bigots and their families summarily excused from this offer.:)
 
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 || Doubt, didnt' see NT, boy NT blows.
 || 
 || I hate how it doesn't list out the processes.
 || 
 || Walking on water and developing software from a 
 || specification are easy if
 || both are frozen.
 || 
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 || On Monday 04 June 2001 10:16, Christopher Spence wrote:
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 || Really?  On NT?
 || 
 || Jared
 || 
 || 
 ||  Walking on water and developing software from a 
 || specification are easy if
 ||  both are frozen.
 || 
 ||  Christopher R. Spence
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 ||  Hi all,
 ||  I added db writer processes last week to try and 
 || improve performance
 ||  of one
 ||  of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a 
 || way to see if
 ||  Oracle actually started the additional db writer 
 || processes?  I added
 ||  db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am
 || assuming
 ||  that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know 
 || what happens
 ||  when we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
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OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Mohan, Ross

Fine. 

Rachel works for CattleButt

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|| the heck you say!  Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut
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|| And Rachel works for Godiva.
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|| || and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest
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RE: 9i download

2001-06-05 Thread Christopher Spence
Title: RE: 9i download



Very 
suitable, it is a great machine, just don't plan on getting any upgrades 
cheap. Memory and DVD are astronomical priced.

256Mb 
would be better, but I believe you can run 9i on 128Mb.

The 
blade is a nice machine, really nice for a workstation as it has USB and some 
newer features, but considerably smaller L1,L2 cache which makes it a bit slower 
for server type apps than say a U10.
But it 
is still a great machine for the money, no questions there.
Perfect for that task you mentioned. But i would recommend getting 
128Mb additional.

"Walking on water and developing software from a 
specification are easy if both are frozen." 
Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot 

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  RE: 9i download
  Paul and all others interested. Ebay seems to be a great 
  source for used sun boxes, I've also noticed at sun's site they have a new 
  workstation for $999. Now of course you'd probably need more ram but 
  this setup looks like it can handle and run 9i, etc for testing purposes at 
  home. Hardware guys out there could you determine if this is enough? Thanks. 
  Ivan Rivera
  http://store.sun.com/catalog/doc/BrowsePage.jhtml?cid=60357catfocus=Desktops 
  


RE: Difference in speed of sorting using index and non-index colu

2001-06-05 Thread Bala, Prakash

An index on order by and group by columns speeds up your query.
 
Prakash

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the order by


Dear list,
 
Someone ask me when Oracle is doing a sort, will it make a difference if we
use indexed column and non-indexes column in the order by clause, my initial
thinking was index only speed up the retrieval of data from disk,  Oracle
probably using other algorithm in sorting records, so indexing is not
relevant in that case. Can someone shed light on this question.
 
KC

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RE: OT: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Haskins, Ed

...and, unless TUSC wants to open an office in Australia...or Steve wants to
move to the States...

but why are WE talking about Steve's career decisions??



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as far as I know, Steve still works for Ixora, which is his own company


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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:35:30 -0800

What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big
company also?

  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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  Verzonden: dinsdag 5 juni 2001 15:31
  Aan: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Onderwerp: RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney
 
 
  they aren't broken down quite like that -- Gaja works for
  Quest but is
  published by Oracle Press, Mike Ault is published by neither...
 
 
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  Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 03:45:24 -0800
  
  If Quest and TUSC are attracting a number of high-profile
  people, they will
  probably survive the recession.  : )
  
  TUSC says they recently expanded, they used to be only in
  Chicago I think.
  They opened an office in Atlanta, and they have another one
  somewhere.
  
  I don't know as much about Quest.
  
  So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these
  good authors
  now fall under the wing of database consulting firms?  Quest through
  O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press?  Steven Feuerstein
  used to publish
  via O'Reilly.
  
  Regards,
  Patrice Boivin
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 And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of
  their
 recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is
  on the hit
  list.
 
  
 As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at
  Quest are:
 Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from
  the 'Oracle SQL
  tuning'
 fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), 
  
 And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?),
  Kevin Loney,
  Mike
 Ault, ...
  
 So is this coalition a viable alternative to the
  all-knowing Oracle
  Support
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O'Reilly, was Re[2]: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Jonathan Gennick

Tuesday, June 05, 2001, 7:45:23 AM, Patrice Boivin wrote:
BPJ So what does this mean for O'Reilly Publishers, if all these good authors
BPJ now fall under the wing of database consulting firms?  Quest through
BPJ O'Reilly, and TUSC through Oracle Press?  Steven Feuerstein used to publish
BPJ via O'Reilly.

I work for O'Reilly  Associates now, so I can speak to this
question somewhat. I honestly don't see that all this means
much of anything to us. Most authors with a good publisher
relationship will continue to write for their current
publisher. Steven, for example, is currently working on some
projects with us. I wouldn't expect to see Kevin Looney or Guy
Harrison or any other author change publishers just
because they went to work for a different consulting
company.

It's interesting though, that companies such as TUSC and
Quest seem to have targeted high-profile Oracle authors.
Aside from the fact that Kevin Looney and others are very
good at what they do, I expect there's a significant
marketing advantage to having an author or two on staff.
Back when I worked for KPMG, I was once sent to create and
manage a database for a troubled project. The fact that I
had written a book went over very well with the client, and
generally seemed to smooth my road. For example,
non-technical client managers paid attention to me, and I
was able to cut through the beaurocracy and get things done.
Was I really any better than any other competent DBA?
Probably not. My books just gave me instant credibility
with management.

I don't think Kevin Looney will spend all his time in the
backroom wrestling with the software. He'll be out in front,
dealing directly with clients, and selling his firm.

Best regards,

Jonathan Gennick   
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RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread Mike J Kurth


Wait a minute here.

Why would oracle do a commit on your transaction
just because it needs to do a checkpoint, logfile switch, or shutdown?

What if errors occur during validation?

Do you think Oracle will commit the data anyways?


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RE: NT script question ???

2001-06-05 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Yeah, directly from the pharaoh Larry Wall the Magnificent.

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cripting tools? Mladen, is that some new Egyptian software?


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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 16:20:49 -0800

Go to http://www.activestate.com, get perl, DBI  DBD::Oracle and you'll
have all the cripting tools that you'll ever need. Associative arrays, 
state
of the art reuglar expressions, functions, format commands and well
documented
ways of accessing the oracle database from within a script (O'Reilly book).
That version of perl supports Andy Duncan's Orac_DBA and Adam von Nieda's
Oracletool (http://www.oracletool.com), two excellent DBA utilities with 
the

unbeatable price.

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Hi,

I have couple of questions about bat file in NT 4.0
for Oracle 8.1.5.

1. how to make bat file take parameters.  I had a
backup.bat, and like to pass in Oracle SID, so the
script can backup any database.

2. in the bat file, how to dynamically append
date/time into a directory name,  like
backup_06022001121314

Thank you!

Andrea

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OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Mohan, Ross

Steve Adams works for Barnes and Noble partnering with Quest and TUSC?

What about Rachel?

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|| And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their 
|| recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on 
|| the hit list.
|| 
|| 
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|| and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest
|| 
|| 
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|| I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta 
|| GA. and Mike
|| Ault now works for TUSC also.
|| Ron Rogers
|| ROR mª¿ªm
|| 
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RE: how to run procedure containig REF CURSOR as datatype

2001-06-05 Thread Bartolo, David

Tom,

Is REF CURSOR only available in Version 8?  I can not get REF CURSOR to
compile
in Version 7.

David

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Harvinder,

change your script like this:

 declare
 io_cursor getrateschedules_pkg.t_cursor;  ==  change the reference
to
the cursor declared
in the
package body.
 begin
 getrateschedules_pkg.getrateschedules(1,2,3,sysdate,4,io_cursor);
 end;
 /

we do this all the time for ref cursors used by VB.

hope this helps

Tom Mercadante
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Hi,

What value to pass as io_cursor in the following procedureHow to run the
procedures containing REF CURSOR..

create or replace package GetRateSchedules_pkg as
 TYPE t_cursor is REF CURSOR;
 procedure GetRateSchedules( temp_id_acc int,acc_cycle_id
int,default_pl int,RecordDate date,temp_id_pi_type int,io_cursor in out
t_cursor);
 end;



i am getting error when i run the following code:

 declare
 TYPE t_cursor is REF CURSOR;
 io_cursor t_cursor;
 begin
 getrateschedules_pkg.getrateschedules(1,2,3,sysdate,4,io_cursor);
 end;
 /

ORA-01790: expression must have same datatype as corresponding
expression.

Thanks
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Re: How to drop a system event trigger - endless loop?

2001-06-05 Thread Rachel Carmichael

go in through svrmgrl or connect via sqlplus using / as sysdba

this will log you in without executing the trigger and you can then drop it


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Hi Gurus !

I created a trigger on logon event. The trigger seems to be falling into an
endless loop, so I can't login. How colud I drop this trigger. I created
this trigger with ON DATABASE clause.

Thanks in advance
Gyula
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RE: Oracle Enterprise Manager

2001-06-05 Thread Mark Leith

Standard OEM is free with all Oracle databases as far as I'm aware, you have
to pay for the extra modules such as Performance Pack  Diagnostics..

Mark

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I am a little confused.  Is the Oracle Enterprise Manager part of Oracle 8i
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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Khedr, Waleed

I usually read books that have different material than Oracle Documentation.

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Oracle8/8i DBA Handbook Author
visit www.kevinloney.com
He is pretty good in Oracle .
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Who is Kevin Loney?

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Can't let that happen!  If that happened, there would be Tusc DB 1.0 and all
us oracle guru's will be useless against that product.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their
recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list.


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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800

and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest


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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:02:09 -0800

I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta GA. and Mike
Ault now works for TUSC also.
Ron Rogers
ROR mª¿ªm

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I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC.


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RE: OT RE: Database writer

2001-06-05 Thread Mohan, Ross

No winner!  I drink the freaking beer all by myself. 

I think I'll pour myself a Smithwick's...somewhere in Dublin...aaa!


(Jefferson Starship)

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|| So... no winner Ross?
|| 
|| Do we get the answer??
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||  Yea, NT blows. Blows like a fresh wind against the empire. 
||  
||  
||  (1st one to name that song lyric reference and i buy you a beer. 
||   NT bigots and their families summarily excused from this offer.:)
||  
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||  || Doubt, didnt' see NT, boy NT blows.
||  || 
||  || I hate how it doesn't list out the processes.
||  || 
||  || Walking on water and developing software from a 
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RE: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-05 Thread Toepke, Kevin M

Lisa:
 
How about contributing a summary of the feedback?
 
Kevin

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I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who responded to me when I asked
for info on tru64 Unix.  I received much more info and feedback than I ever
expected!  

This list is extremely helpful and I am very appreciative of how willing
people are to answer questions.  I just hope I contribute enough to make up
for how much everyone here has helped me.

HELP! 

Have a great day, all. 

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RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: OT  RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney





Come on, Ross. The real question is who do YOU work for. Are you an idiot?


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Steve Adams works for Barnes and Noble partnering with Quest and TUSC?


What about Rachel?


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Re: How to drop a system event trigger - endless loop?

2001-06-05 Thread G . Plivna


Yeah, another one ;)
Before several months already somebody in this list faced this problem ;)

If there is an error in a LOGON Trigger, nobody (not even SYS) may connect
to the database. Connect with INTERNAL and drop the trigger may help in
this situation.

Gints Plivna




   

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this trigger with ON DATABASE clause.

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Remedy Action Request System

2001-06-05 Thread Ray Stell


Anyone know of a db monitoring tool that can integrate with 
Remedy AR?  Thanks.
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Re: iAS installation update

2001-06-05 Thread Luis DeUrioste

Patrice,
I've installed 9iAS successfully, what I've done is just run the installer from
the CD and on a new machine (virgin OS install) I selected all the defaults, and
guess what everything work.  In turn 9iAS created an ORACLE home in which there
is a 806 and an iSuites directory, apparently when they say the 806 home what
they refer to is that directory, the 806 directory seems to be where the tool
set (Forms/ Reports) are housed and the iSuites where the Apache server and that
stuff is.

On a machine with a whole bunch of other ORACLE products, such as DEV 1.6 (FORMS
4.5 / Reports2.5), Designer 2000, Developer 6i and Personal Oracle 8.1.7, I've
chosen a different home for each product and everything works fine. Of course a
bunch of stuff is duplicated, but who cares Hard drive is cheap, the main thing
is that everything works as advertised. When I tried installing everything on
default Oracle homes nothing worked and it was a nightmare.

My experience from the installs.

Good luck

Tavo

Boivin, Patrice J wrote:

 FYI,

 I logged a TAR with Oracle last week or so because one Metalink tech had
 said in passing that Forms and Reports had to go into its own, separate
 oracle_home.  This follows from a previous TAR I had logged with them,
 simply asking which products work best together.

 I had read the installation manual for iAS and had earlier found this:

 Note: Be sure not to install Oracle9i Application Server in an Oracle_home
 containing other Oracle products, including the database.  Such an
 installation could overwrite shared components, causing the products to
 malfunction.  (on p. 3-5, 4-5, 5-5).

 Now, in Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started - Release 6i for Windows,
 it says:

 Reports Developer 6i must reside in the default oracle_home.
 Reports Developer 6i and the Oracle8 or Oracle8i server must reside in
 separate oracle_Homes, although they can reside on the same physical
 machine.
 Similarly, in a web application deployment, Report Server and Oracle
 Application Server must reside in separate oracle_homes, although they can
 reside on the same physical machine. (p.1-16)

 Forms and Reports 6i happen to require an Oracle 8.0.6. oracle_home.

 This posed a dilemma:  how can I install iAS in the default home, when many
 of its components require access to an origin database.  I do not plan to
 use iAS with 8.0.6., I plan to use it with 8.1.7..

 I thought I would have to install Forms and Reports 6i first, remove the
 tidbits that the Oracle Universal Installer installs by default, then
 install 8.1.7., and then install the iSuite components.  Of course by the
 end of this tortuous process there were errors.

 I had a different Metalink technician this time, who told me to ignore what
 the first technician had said, and to just install iAS based on the
 installation manual, never mind the other worries that I had.

 So, I am ignoring the Oracle Reports Developer Getting Started manual, and I
 am installing based on the iAS installation manual.

 Hopefully that will work.

 /begin rant
 I still wish the Oracle techs could have told me which versions of the
 various products are concurrent, they just keep insisting that all their
 products are certified to work together.  All I wanted to know was which
 oracle_home type do the various products use?  Forms and Reports 6i requires
 an 8.0.6. home, Developer6 used an 8.0.5 home, etc. the Metalink techs do
 not appear to have a list, they didn't understand my question.  When I
 logged a TAR on this I received three e-mails telling me that my TAR had
 been passed to different people, in the end the last tech told me that
 products sometimes are released together, but that it is not all that
 important, because everything is certified to work together.

 I can't shake the feeling that iAS is a bundle of things that were just
 slapped together.  Seeing the old installer pop up during the installation
 doesn't help remove that impression.  Hopefully when the next release comes
 out it will install in something other than an (old) Oracle 8.0.6.
 oracle_home.  Since it's called Oracle9i iAS, maybe the Forms and Reports
 Servers will go into a 9i oracle_home (?).
 /end rant

 (this is my impression, not my employer's etc. etc.)

 Sorry if this comes across as a little harsh.

 Regards,
 Patrice Boivin
 Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

 Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
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(Fwd) ERPcentral Journal Vol.4, No.23

2001-06-05 Thread Eric D. Pierce


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Cuts pricing in Japan Dan Verton, Computerworld Oracle Corp.'s Japanese
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RE: How to drop a system event trigger - endless loop?

2001-06-05 Thread Jenkins, Michael

Couldn't you just start svrmgrl and "connect internal"?

--Michael

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Hi Gurus !

I created a trigger on logon event. The trigger seems to be falling into an
endless loop, so I can't login. How colud I drop this trigger. I created
this trigger with ON DATABASE clause.

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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Christopher Spence

Quite interesting, can I join as well?

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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Hi All,

No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the commercial DBA
union!
The pre-announcement is at http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:6

@   Regards,
@   Steve Adams
@   http://www.ixora.com.au/
@   http://www.christianity.net.au/

PS. This is a joke for the benefit of those who have been following the
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What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some big
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AW: UTL_FILE pkg related issue

2001-06-05 Thread Maxim Demenko

The term of NUMBER OF ROWS is not quite appliable in case of binary file.
Anyway wc -l yourfilename (i suggest you are in unix shell , otherwise you
can compile the '\n' counter like this
--
#include stdio.h
main()
{
int counter=0,c;
while((c=getchar())!=EOF)
if(c=='\n')
counter++;
printf(%d\n,counter);
}
-
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HTH
 
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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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Betreff: UTL_FILE pkg related issue


I use the UTL_FILE pkg to read a bin file and load the data into our
database tables (insert or update) . The program works fine - but since we
do updates too- we would like to protect out table - by checking the no of
rows in the input file - The file has a Header and Tail - CAn someone
suggest - how I can scan the binary file - and count the no of rows - before
- processing the file ?

thanks


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Re: Re: RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread sfaroult

Bastards. You are totally right. I have tested and RTFM'd but the later doesn't 
specify when the change occurred. Should read release notes more often.
Anybody has an idea about when it happened? 6.0.32 ?
Please comfort me : exiting from a Pro*C program without calling EXEC SQL 
COMMIT|ROLLBACK WORK RELEASE (I hope it's not obsolete syntax, I have not used Proc*C 
for years) still does a rollback, does it ?

Stephane Faroult
Oriole Corporation

Yeah, that's what I was going to suggest.  QUIT used to do an exit without
a commit, but now it commits it just like EXIT does.  I wonder why they
changed that?  Now they are just synonyms of one another.

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Alternatively, you can also use QUIT.

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What you're seeing is an implicit commit !To prevent it - before exiting
the
session , issue ROLLBACK;  then EXIT

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Dear DBA Gurus,

  Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from committing a
transaction
unless
I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I insert a record into
a
table and type exit from the sql prompt without commiting the transaction
and again open a new sqlplus session and select from that particular table
the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle from inserting into a
table
unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note that I have set my
sqlplus
session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table tablename nologging
but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me in this regard?

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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OPS and Veritas Cluster Server

2001-06-05 Thread mohammed bhatti

Has anyone used Veritas Cluster Server software for
Oracle?  Can OPS be implemented using this or is best
to use OS supplied clustering.

Thanks

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RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread lhoska

Commit will take place after any DDL statement.  Besides that, Oracle
Complete Reference by George Koch and Kevin Loney states that commit will
occur after you execute the following commands: exit, quit, and even
connect.
If you are worried about unmanaged commits after the sudden instance crash
then don't worry it won't happen. Oracle will roll everything back after the
instance comes back up.  As to commits occurring due to the 'exit' command
it seems it is not possible to stop.  But you have control in that
situation.  Just before typing 'exit' type 'rollback' and no changes will
take place.
Hope this helps, and please correct me if I am wrong.

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Wait a minute here.

Why would oracle do a commit on your transaction
just because it needs to do a checkpoint, logfile switch, or shutdown?

What if errors occur during validation?

Do you think Oracle will commit the data anyways?


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RE: How to prevent oracle from committing a transaction?

2001-06-05 Thread Hillman, Alex

I did not try it but what if we have a trigger on logoff which will raise
application error.

Alex Hillman

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Ranganath,

AFAIK, this can't be done.  A normal exit has an
implied commit.  Perhaps someone else can suggest a
way to do this programmatically.

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Ranganath K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear DBA Gurus,
 
   Can you tell me how to prevent oracle from
 committing a transaction unless
 I explicitly commit it.  I have observed that when I
 insert a record into a
 table and type exit from the sql prompt without
 commiting the transaction
 and again open a new sqlplus session and select from
 that particular table
 the record is inserted.  How do I prevent oracle
 from inserting into a table
 unless I explicitly specify commit?  Please note
 that I have set my sqlplus
 session as autocommit off.  I tried with alter table
 tablename nologging
 but it didn't do what I wanted.  Can anybody help me
 in this regard?
 
 TIA and Regards,
 
 Ranganath
 
 
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RE: Oracle Enterprise Manager

2001-06-05 Thread Ron Rogers

I had problems getting the OEM to function properly. I was using OEM 2.2 r3 with an 
8.1.6 database. I removed the OEM 2.2 r3 and installed OEM 2.1 and it worked great. I 
remember reading a versions grid on OTN that had OEM 2.1 with 8.1.6 and OEM 2.2 with 
8.1.7.
It could be you have a version miss-match also.
ROR mª¿ªm

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Standard OEM is free with all Oracle databases as far as I'm aware, you have
to pay for the extra modules such as Performance Pack  Diagnostics..

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I am a little confused.  Is the Oracle Enterprise Manager part of Oracle 8i
(8.1.7) Standard Edition or do I have to pay extra for it?  Thanks.

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Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Thater, William

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-Fine.
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-Rachel works for CattleButt

ZOT ;-)

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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-05 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Do we get a bumper sticker?

: )

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)



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Quite interesting, can I join as well?

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are
easy if
both are frozen.

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Hi All,

No, I'm waiting for Henry to announce the details of the commercial
DBA
union!
The pre-announcement is at
http://www.lazydba.com/xcomment.pl?discussions:6

@   Regards,
@   Steve Adams
@   http://www.ixora.com.au/
@   http://www.christianity.net.au/

PS. This is a joke for the benefit of those who have been following
the
LazyDBA
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What about Steve Adams, does somebody know whether he joined some
big
company also?

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