Re: parallel query performance

2001-06-09 Thread Jared Still

On Friday 08 June 2001 23:20, Stephane Faroult wrote:

>
> And why is Elbonia submitted to such restriction? Do they actively
> support terrorism from militant ethnic Graecian groups in the Balkans?

It's based on human rights violations.  They encourage
child labor and discriminate against molly-dookers.

The British government however has been lobbying to have
trade restrictions with Elbonia lifted. It seems that 
Elbonian mud can be used to stop the spread of hoof and
mouth disease.

Tony Blair has even gone on record as saying that it's
vital to the nations economy.

Most UN members however are still dissenting.

Jared


> Jared Still wrote:
> > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:17, Mohan, Ross wrote:
> > > pq slaves have special buffers in the large pool.
> > >
> > > I do not believe, however, that this is the ONLY
> > > place they read from.
> > >
> > > Perhaps a Latvian web site has more details?
> >
> > No, but I did locate one in Elbonia.
> >
> > Since they have no diplomatic relations with
> > any North American or European countries, they
> > can get away with publishing anything you want.
> >
> > Shoot, they even burn Solaris and Oracle CD's and
> > practically give the stuff away.
> >
> > Several software companies have added Elbonia to
> > their list of countries that their software may
> > not be exported to, due to their flagrant
> > violations.
> >
> > Here's an example:
> >
> >  http://www.gemstone.com/linux/license.htm
> >
> > Jared
>
> LOL. And why is Elbonia submitted to such restriction? Do they actively
> support terrorism from militant ethnic Graecian groups in the Balkans?
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RE: dumn unix script question

2001-06-09 Thread Mark Leith

Thanks Jared!

Off to find my first Perl Book :) I've seen on the list the things you do
with perl scripts, and have to say I'm always impressed..

Mark

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Let me start off by saying that I like Java. I took a class
in it from Sun, and Java is easy.  Learning the libs is hard
but the language is easy.

I'm going to say something now that may sound counter intuitive:

Learn Perl first.  The reason it may seem counter intuitive is
that Perl is hard to learn, at least at first.  Much easier if
you've had exposure to C though.

The reason for learning Perl is that there are many tasks that
are easy in Perl that are hard in Java.  It's the same old balance:
with power comes complexity.

The basics of Perl aren't really *too* hard, just take a little
getting used to.

The payoff is big.  There is no better language for data munging
than Perl.  If you need to clean up data for SQL loader files,
use Perl.  Don't try to do it with PL/SQL or Korn as it is just
too much work.

While SQL*Loader allows you to do some very complex things in it,
it is *very* difficult at times.  Clean your data first.

Need to deal with a lot of text files, search for errors in log
files, etc., do it with Perl.

You will also be able to develop Perl code much faster than you
can develop Java code.  Java is very wordy, Perl can be very
terse if you want or require.

Perl makes hard things easy, and impossible things possible.  :)

see www.perl.com for articles, downloads and tutorials.

Good first books for the non-programmer are Learning Perl and/or
Learning Perl for Win32.

Jared

On Friday 08 June 2001 04:10, Mark Leith wrote:
> A quick question - I have VERY limited scripting experience - for
arguments
> sake, lets say - none:)
>
> Now, looking at the code below, and having started with java a short time
> ago to implement certain functions in to our web page, I have to say that
> they look similar in style.. Is the case? Could I learn one code
> intimatley - like java - and have a good head start when faced with
others?
>
> If so, which would you reccomend starting to REALLY learn? I'm thinking
> java myself, and have already started as mentioned, but wanted to get your
> invaluable knowledge..
>
> Cheers
>
> Dorothy "Red Shoes"
>
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>
>
>
> Well, you've got the right idea, just in the
> wrong order.
>
> The korn shell does not compile the whole script
> and then execute as say Perl does.
>
> It executes it a line at a time.
>
> So rearrange your script like so:
>
> ==
> #!/bin/ksh
>
> function quick_test {
> echo "hello"
> }
>
> echo "supposed to show hello below"
> quick_test
>
> ==
>
> and it will work.
>
> Might be a good idea to pick up a good Korn
> shell book.  O'Reilly has one I believe.
>
> I like the one by Kochan and Wood, published
> by Hayden books.
>
>
> Jared
>
> On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:55, Janet Linsy wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This must be a really dumn question. :-<
> >
> > I have a script which doesn't work well, since it
> > doesn't recognize a subroutine.  I compared my code
> > with other codes that work fine with sub function, and
> > didn't see any difference. (at least look the same
> > style to me.)
> >
> > So I wrote a really small scipt to test the sub:
> > ==
> > #!/bin/ksh
> >
> > echo "supposed to show hello below"
> > quick_test
> >
> > function quick_test {
> > echo "hello"
> > }
> > ==
> > after I run it, I got: 1[3]: quick_test:  not found.
> >
> > The box is:
> > Machine hardware:   sun4u
> > OS version: 5.6
> >
> > Don't know ksh version, how to know ksh version
> > really?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Janet
> >
> >
> > __
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RE: whats new in oracle8.1.7

2001-06-09 Thread Mark Leith

http://technet.oracle.com

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Hi
from where can I get oracle8.1.7 new features?Any website except 
www.oracle.com
Thanks
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RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."

2001-06-09 Thread Hawkins Family

Rachel,

Well, I didn't want to suggest you be the "bad girl" type right off the bat.
What we can do is have you play two parts in the movie, one the "good angel"
and one the "dark angel".  That way, you can really bring out the best of
both worlds.

set director_talk on

It's all about motivation.  What motivates you?  Yes, capture that and don't
let go.

set director_talk off

Jim

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Jim,

I promise to come see that movie!  "do-good angel caught between Heaven and
Hell" though? Darn it all, I thought I was more the "bad girl" type :)

Rachel


>From: "Jim Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
>Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:47:38 -0800
>
>Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and I thank all
>those who responded and weighed in.  All of your input was extremely
>valuable to me (and others).
>
>Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I could not
>*happily*
>write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids under age 4), so
>I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion.  That's right, we're
>going straight to the big screen.  Join me in next year's Cannes Festival
>in
>southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk Oracle DBA's).
>
>"Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the
>Larry"
>directed by Jim Hawkins.
>
>Starring (not in order of importance):
>*Larry Ellison as God
>*Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a
>compassionate
>heart)
>*Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal)
>*Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven
>and
>Hell)
>*Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair)
>
>And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know.  Haven't built a
>story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning
>combination film?
>
>But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, and
>have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes typing
>this email.
>
>Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film
>company.
>
>Jim
>
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> > 10% of GROSS sales? or net?  I'd be really really surprised if it were
> > gross.
> >
> > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that.
> >
> > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or
>Kevin
> > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
> > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800
> > >
> > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures.
>ie;
> > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make around
> > >$1,000,
> > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc.  No personal finances
>involved.
> > >Your
> > > > mileage may vary, etc.
> > >
> > >100K?!
> > >
> > >In your dreams.  Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is
> > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site.
> > >
> > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell
> > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will
> > >gross $30K from the book.
> > >
> > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic.  And if there are co-authors,
> > >you will split the proceeds.
> > >
> > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love.
> > >
> > >There are exceptions, like 'SQL for Smarties' by Joe Celko, but
> > >not many tech books sell that well.
> > >
> > >Jared
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RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'

2001-06-09 Thread Hawkins Family

Yes, but this leads to virtual hang-over which is a very good thing...

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-Original Message-
Aschenbrenner
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:33 PM
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I think I've had too many virtual beers.  I'm getting a virtual buzz

Alan

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Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays.  It helps me
out 
of the daily drone mode...

By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self!

Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me!

Jim


> 
> Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have
> had in days!
> 
> Thank you, thank you, thank you!
> 
> Jared  ( still laughing )
> 
> On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote:
> 
> >
> > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love
the
> > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins.
> >
> > Starring (not in order of importance):
> > *Larry Ellison as God
> > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a
> > compassionate heart)
> > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal)
> > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between
Heaven
> > and Hell)
> > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair)
> >
> > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know.  Haven't built
a
> > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning
> > combination film?
> >
> > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good
mood, 
and
> > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes

typing
> > this email.
> >
> > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film
> > company.
> >
> > Jim
> 
> 


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RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'

2001-06-09 Thread Hawkins Family

Rachel,

Well...umer..ah..maybe.

You know, Martin Sheen was drunk during the filming of many scenes of
Apocalypse Now.  I just thought I would follow Coppola's lead and get all
the actors/actresses drunk for a more free-flowing performance.

Wait 'til I break out the virtual schnapps shots ;)

Jim

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Carmichael
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:20 PM
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Jim,

Two rounds of Guiness? are you trying to get me drunk? :)

Rachel


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>Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:46:11 -0800
>
>Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays.  It helps me out
>of the daily drone mode...
>
>By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self!
>
>Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me!
>
>Jim
>
>
> >
> > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have
> > had in days!
> >
> > Thank you, thank you, thank you!
> >
> > Jared  ( still laughing )
> >
> > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the
> > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins.
> > >
> > > Starring (not in order of importance):
> > > *Larry Ellison as God
> > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a
> > > compassionate heart)
> > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal)
> > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between
>Heaven
> > > and Hell)
> > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair)
> > >
> > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know.  Haven't built a
> > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning
> > > combination film?
> > >
> > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good
>mood,
>and
> > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes
>typing
> > > this email.
> > >
> > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film
> > > company.
> > >
> > > Jim
> >
> >
>
>
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Create Directory - Statemen

2001-06-09 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran

Hi all,

Can anyone please tell me what is the use of the 'CREATE DIRECTORY' sql
statement.

Hope that it would be used on LOB datatype manipulations.

Please enlighten me.

Regards,
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RE: SID on sqlplus prompt?

2001-06-09 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

If the db_name will do just as well you can use 

 sys_context('USERENV', 'DB_NAME') to obtain the database name and not have to 
grant access to any of the v$ tables.  There's also ora_database_name which is a 
function that takes no arguments and returns . Both of these can 
"selected from dual"

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How about something like this?  Of course, it requires that the user have
select access to v$instance -- maybe there's another place to find this.
You could do some sort of batch to reference the $ORACLE_SID instead, but
the advantage of this is you can put it into glogin.sql or login.sql -- or
maybe not.  I just tried doing that and it didn't affect anything.  Hmm.
Oh, well, this may help you...

set heading off
set term off
set feedback off
spool set_sqlprompt.lst
select 'set sqlprompt "' || instance_name || '> "'
from v$instance
/
spool off
@set_sqlprompt.lst
set heading on
set term on
set feedback on

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Dedicated connections on MTS server

2001-06-09 Thread Aravind Tigadi

Hi,

We have setup a MTS server on our oracle 8.0.5 database. The total number of 
 >users is around 800 - 900.
Eventough MTS configuration is working fine, we find around 200+ users
getting connected to the database as DEDICATED users.  According to me If
the server is setup as MTS there should not be any dedicated
connections going on to database.

My question is

Why my connetions to database are going as DEDICATED...?
How  do I make sure that all my connections to server are SHARED and not
DEDICATED.

I have checked my SQLNET.ORA, We do not have use_dedicated_server=on setup 
on any of the client machines.

Please let me know if you have any answer for this.


TIA,

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Re: Create Directory - Statemen

2001-06-09 Thread Azhar Siddiq

Nirmal,
Create directory command simply creates a database object,Client system
directory path can't be given during its creation. it is  used with LOB
manipulation, DBMS_LOB package read and write  operations are related to
this directorty path given during creation.
For more details, do check DBMS_LOB samples.
HTH
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RE: Dedicated connections on MTS server

2001-06-09 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

You enable MTS on the server and that method becomes the default connection method, 
but the final determination on whether shared or dedicated servers are used  is 
controlled on the client side.

If a client's tnsnames file has  server=dedicated as part ofn the stanza for 
connecting to the database, the conenction is going to be a dedicated one.

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Hi,

We have setup a MTS server on our oracle 8.0.5 database. The total number of 
 >users is around 800 - 900.
Eventough MTS configuration is working fine, we find around 200+ users
getting connected to the database as DEDICATED users.  According to me If
the server is setup as MTS there should not be any dedicated
connections going on to database.

My question is

Why my connetions to database are going as DEDICATED...?
How  do I make sure that all my connections to server are SHARED and not
DEDICATED.

I have checked my SQLNET.ORA, We do not have use_dedicated_server=on setup 
on any of the client machines.

Please let me know if you have any answer for this.


TIA,

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Re: Dedicated connections on MTS server

2001-06-09 Thread Charlie Mengler

I'm fighting this same problem, but in reverse.
I'm trying to get all my folks using DEDICATED connections.

Simply put on my server the listener uses port 1521 for MTS/shared
connections. It uses port1529 for DEDICATED connections. The
TNSNAMES.ORA file on each client determines which port is
used.

If you simply & REALLY want to preclude your users from
connecting as DEDICATED session, then simply remove that
port from the listener.ora file & bounce the listener. If/when
the listener no longer accepts connections for the dedicated
port, all your users will be forced to use MTS.

FWIW - When I switched from MTS to DEDICATED
my nightly batch jobs went from 5 hours of run time to
about ONE hour of runtime.

HTH & YMMV!

Aravind Tigadi wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We have setup a MTS server on our oracle 8.0.5 database. The total number of
>  >users is around 800 - 900.
> Eventough MTS configuration is working fine, we find around 200+ users
> getting connected to the database as DEDICATED users.  According to me If
> the server is setup as MTS there should not be any dedicated
> connections going on to database.
>
> My question is
>
> Why my connetions to database are going as DEDICATED...?
> How  do I make sure that all my connections to server are SHARED and not
> DEDICATED.
>
> I have checked my SQLNET.ORA, We do not have use_dedicated_server=on setup
> on any of the client machines.
>
> Please let me know if you have any answer for this.
>
> TIA,
>
> Dan
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RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'

2001-06-09 Thread Mohan, Ross

 
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RE: SID on sqlplus prompt?

2001-06-09 Thread Diana_Duncan


Neat!  I knew there was some way of selecting that, but couldn't remember
it and also couldn't find them in the FM.  Didn't someone complain about
the terrible indexes on Oracle manuals?  Let me add my voice to that
particular clamor.

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If the db_name will do just as well you can use

 sys_context('USERENV', 'DB_NAME') to obtain the database name and not
have to grant access to any of the v$ tables.  There's also
ora_database_name which is a function that takes no arguments and returns
. Both of these can "selected from dual"

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How about something like this?  Of course, it requires that the user have
select access to v$instance -- maybe there's another place to find this.
You could do some sort of batch to reference the $ORACLE_SID instead, but
the advantage of this is you can put it into glogin.sql or login.sql -- or
maybe not.  I just tried doing that and it didn't affect anything.  Hmm.
Oh, well, this may help you...

set heading off
set term off
set feedback off
spool set_sqlprompt.lst
select 'set sqlprompt "' || instance_name || '> "'
from v$instance
/
spool off
@set_sqlprompt.lst
set heading on
set term on
set feedback on

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OT: DBA 101 paper

2001-06-09 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Okay, since I protested when it was up without authorization, and the site 
owner did take it down, an authorized copy of the paper is now on the 
www.nyoug.org site.  There is a link to the paper on the home page.

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RE: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."

2001-06-09 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Jim,

Gulp!  What have I gotten myself into? Okay, none of you will believe this 
but I'm shy and get stage fright. Stop laughing! It's true

Two roles, twice as much to memorize but I get to bring out the best and 
worst in me.

Rachel


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>Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 05:50:19 -0800
>
>Rachel,
>
>Well, I didn't want to suggest you be the "bad girl" type right off the 
>bat.
>What we can do is have you play two parts in the movie, one the "good 
>angel"
>and one the "dark angel".  That way, you can really bring out the best of
>both worlds.
>
>set director_talk on
>
>It's all about motivation.  What motivates you?  Yes, capture that and 
>don't
>let go.
>
>set director_talk off
>
>Jim
>
>^
>Jim Hawkins
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>-Original Message-
>Carmichael
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>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>Jim,
>
>I promise to come see that movie!  "do-good angel caught between Heaven and
>Hell" though? Darn it all, I thought I was more the "bad girl" type :)
>
>Rachel
>
>
> >From: "Jim Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: OT - Wrap-up of "Serious Question (believe it or not)..."
> >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:47:38 -0800
> >
> >Well, we certainly had a fine discussion on this topic, and I thank all
> >those who responded and weighed in.  All of your input was extremely
> >valuable to me (and others).
> >
> >Based on Rachel's and others' comments, I believe that I could not
> >*happily*
> >write a technical book at this point in my life (3 kids under age 4), so
> >I've decided to follow the other camp's suggestion.  That's right, we're
> >going straight to the big screen.  Join me in next year's Cannes Festival
> >in
> >southern France (yeah, they'll love an invasion of drunk Oracle DBA's).
> >
> >"Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love the
> >Larry"
> >directed by Jim Hawkins.
> >
> >Starring (not in order of importance):
> >*Larry Ellison as God
> >*Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a
> >compassionate
> >heart)
> >*Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal)
> >*Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between Heaven
> >and
> >Hell)
> >*Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair)
> >
> >And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know.  Haven't built a
> >story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning
> >combination film?
> >
> >But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good mood, 
>and
> >have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes 
>typing
> >this email.
> >
> >Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film
> >company.
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >--
> >Jim Hawkins
> >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator
> >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc.
> >600 Pearl Drive
> >St. Louis, MO  633376
> >9636) 474-7832
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> >
> > > 10% of GROSS sales? or net?  I'd be really really surprised if it were
> > > gross.
> > >
> > > Figure that net sales on that @29.95 book is at most half that.
> > >
> > > And 10,000 copies? Hm, well, I'd bet someone like Steven Feuerstein or
> >Kevin
> > > Loney would sell that many, but not most authors.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
> > > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:55:22 -0800
> > > >
> > > >On Thursday 07 June 2001 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think all the original poster was asking was ballpark figures.
> >ie;
> > > > > should a prospective author of an Oracle book expect to make 
>around
> > > >$1,000,
> > > > > around $10,000, around $100,000, etc.  No personal finances
> >involved.
> > > >Your
> > > > > mileage may vary, etc.
> > > >
> > > >100K?!
> > > >
> > > >In your dreams.  Standard royalty rate for O'Reilly is 10%, which is
> > > >public knowledge as they publish it on their web site.
> > > >
> > > >If you sell 10,000 copies of a 29.95 book ( assuming they all sell
> > > >for the list price, which isn't likely ) and no returns, you will
> > > >gross $30K from the book.
> > > >
> > > >10,000 copies is probably optimistic.  And if there are co-authors,
> > > >you will split the proceeds.
> > > >
> > > >Writing a technical book is in most cases a labor of love.
> > > >

RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'

2001-06-09 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Jim,

trust me, you'll need the alcohol to persuade the bad Rachel to come out.

I hadn't realized Martin Sheen was drink during Apocalyse Now. New fact for 
the day.

Rachel


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>
>Rachel,
>
>Well...umer..ah..maybe.
>
>You know, Martin Sheen was drunk during the filming of many scenes of
>Apocalypse Now.  I just thought I would follow Coppola's lead and get all
>the actors/actresses drunk for a more free-flowing performance.
>
>Wait 'til I break out the virtual schnapps shots ;)
>
>Jim
>
>^
>Jim Hawkins
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>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:20 PM
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>
>
>Jim,
>
>Two rounds of Guiness? are you trying to get me drunk? :)
>
>Rachel
>
>
> >From: "Jim Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >Subject: Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
> >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:46:11 -0800
> >
> >Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays.  It helps me 
>out
> >of the daily drone mode...
> >
> >By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self!
> >
> >Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me!
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have
> > > had in days!
> > >
> > > Thank you, thank you, thank you!
> > >
> > > Jared  ( still laughing )
> > >
> > > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love 
>the
> > > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins.
> > > >
> > > > Starring (not in order of importance):
> > > > *Larry Ellison as God
> > > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a
> > > > compassionate heart)
> > > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal)
> > > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between
> >Heaven
> > > > and Hell)
> > > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair)
> > > >
> > > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know.  Haven't built 
>a
> > > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning
> > > > combination film?
> > > >
> > > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good
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> >and
> > > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes
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> > > >
> > > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film
> > > > company.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Crystal Reports 7 on 8i client fix?

2001-06-09 Thread Doug C

This issue is about a year old so I wonder if anyone knew of a fix.
Crystal 7 will not work with an 8i client.  Some people have indicated that ODBC
works ok this way, but we are using Oracle native drivers, p2sora7.dll or
something.

Here's a link on the subject
http://support.seagatesoftware.com/library/kbase/articles/c2003786.asp

Anyone know of a resolution other than switching to ODBC or upgrading to Crystal
8?

Thanks,
D

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RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'

2001-06-09 Thread antonio . belloni


Hi Jim,

I have an idea for a book. I don´t know if it has been written before , but
I think that it would be very useful to a lot of people.

Oracle High Availability:
- Recovery scenarios (The author could put scripts to backup archive logs ,
tips about archiving , recovering , how Oracle process instance recovery ,
case studies , etc...);
- Stand-by Databases (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...);
- OPS (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...);
- Replication (as a tool to keep another database in sync with production
databases);
- Hardware concepts (redundancy , RAID controllers , clusters , SANs ,
etc...);
- Tips & Techniques for a 24 x 7 x 365 environment (administration , online
backups , archiving , change manegement , etc...);
- It could have a chapter with an overview or introduction about Oracle 9i
Real Application Clusters.

Of course , someone would ask "Why don´t you write it yourself ??".

1st : I have a 1-year old baby to take care , and I can´t let all the
duties ( and happiness :- ) to my wife;
2nd : I take care of 15 databases on my daily job and none of them is 24 x
7 x 365. So , I don´t feel comfortable to write about the matter;
3rd : My English isn´t good.

If is there a book similar , sorry about the waste of time , and , please ,
could you give me the name of this book ??

Regards,
Antonio Belloni




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I think I've had too many virtual beers.  I'm getting a virtual buzz

Alan

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Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays.  It helps me
out
of the daily drone mode...

By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self!

Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me!

Jim


>
> Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have
> had in days!
>
> Thank you, thank you, thank you!
>
> Jared  ( still laughing )
>
> On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote:
>
> >
> > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love
the
> > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins.
> >
> > Starring (not in order of importance):
> > *Larry Ellison as God
> > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a
> > compassionate heart)
> > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal)
> > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between
Heaven
> > and Hell)
> > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair)
> >
> > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know.  Haven't built
a
> > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning
> > combination film?
> >
> > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good
mood,
and
> > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes

typing
> > this email.
> >
> > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film
> > company.
> >
> > Jim
>
>


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WAS: Re: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question ' - now book idea - high

2001-06-09 Thread Paul Drake

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> I have an idea for a book. I don´t know if it has been written before , but
> I think that it would be very useful to a lot of people.
> 
> Oracle High Availability:
> - Recovery scenarios (The author could put scripts to backup archive logs ,
> tips about archiving , recovering , how Oracle process instance recovery ,
> case studies , etc...);
> - Stand-by Databases (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...);
> - OPS (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...);
> - Replication (as a tool to keep another database in sync with production
> databases);
> - Hardware concepts (redundancy , RAID controllers , clusters , SANs ,
> etc...);
> - Tips & Techniques for a 24 x 7 x 365 environment (administration , online
> backups , archiving , change manegement , etc...);
> - It could have a chapter with an overview or introduction about Oracle 9i
> Real Application Clusters.
> 
> If is there a book similar , sorry about the waste of time , and , please ,
> could you give me the name of this book ??
> 
> Regards,
> Antonio Belloni
> 

Antonio,

A book covering some of this material already exists: Oracle 24x7 Tips &
Techniques

http://www.osborne.com/oracle/index.html
http://www.bookpool.com/.x/sshhpzr290/sm/0072119993

I'm not making a recommendation either way - I read the book some time
ago, and thought it was good, but that was many books ago. My standards
are likely to have risen - then again - I might get alot more out of it
the second time thru. 

Chapter 19 is available online at the osborne site - "Builing a
Real-World Arsenal".


A book covering some of the Backup and Recovery material would be
Oracle 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook - Velpuri - which has no less
than 22 case studies listed.
(Just don't expect to get any good NT backup scripts there).


In general, your best bet is to stick to the papers published in this
area - as you are much more likely to find individual topics discussed
in a white paper format that are recent enough to be useful. So much
high-avail material is platform-dependent - it would be difficult to
assemble something across all platforms - and fit it into a single book.

Tim Gorman's paper on High-Avail -
http://www.evergreen-database.com/TD_HA.pdf

You ask about:
> - It could have a chapter with an overview or introduction about Oracle 9i
> Real Application Clusters.

I would suggest visiting the IOUG.org site.
Here is one paper as an example - #114
"An Introductiono to High Availability Solutions" by Brian McGraw
Okay - its only introductory - but you have to start somewhere.


(no surprise here) - I would also recommend searching Metalink
http://metalink.oracle.com/
here are some examples from the Technical Library for high avail

Failover Issues and Limitations [Connect-time failover and TAF] 97926.1 
8.0.x-8.1.x: Sample config for Transparent Application 69745.1 
Dead Connection Detection Explained 2061476.6  


Do you want someone to simply re-use the Oracle Documentation on the
subject, or get advice from someone that has actually used the product?
It seems to me that you won't see a book on such things until 12 months
after it has been released - while you might see individual papers out
much sooner. You'll just have to do a bit of searching on your own to
find the info.


(no surprise here) - I would also recommend searching Technet
there is a section called "Oracle Real Application Clusters" at
http://otn.oracle.com/products/oracle9i/content.html

including:
Managing Oracle9i Real Application Clusters 
Building Highly Available Database Servers Using Oracle Real Application
Clusters 
Oracle9i Real Application Clusters, Cache Fusion Delivers Scalability

that would certainly be a start.

hth,

Paul
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Oracle 9i V$VERSION and changes to the system views for 9i

2001-06-09 Thread Joe Sanderson

Hello,
I have not yet tried my OCI based application on 9i (currently
downloading...). I'm curious about the V$VERSION string that will be
returned for 9i - I'm assuming that it will return something like:

"Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.6.0.0 - Production"

Can anyone confirm for me what is returned from "select * from v$version;"?
As long as it starts with "Oracle9i" or something similar I'll be happy.

Also - can anyone out there who has tried 9i give me a heads up on how
significantly any of the existing system views/tables have been changed? I'm
not concerned about new tables/views, or new columns in tables. I would be
concerned about any views that were removed or columns that were dropped
(hopefully there aren't any) over 8i. The primary one's I'm using are:
V$VERSION, V$ARCHIVE_DEST, V$BGPROCESS, V$CONTROLFILE, V$DATABASE,
V$INSTANCE, V$LOG, V$LOGFILE, V$NLS_PARAMETERS, V$OPTION, V$PARAMETER,
V$SGA, V$VERSION, DBA_PROFILES, DBA_ROLE_PRIVS, DBA_ROLES,
DBA_ROLLBACK_SEGS, DBA_SYS_PRIVS, DBA_TAB_PRIVS, DBA_TABLESPACES, DBA_USERS.

Has anyone seen this documented anywhere - changes to the data dictionary in
9i?

Thanks
Joe Sanderson

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RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'

2001-06-09 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Antonio,

There isn't one book that covers all those topics, and for good reason. If 
written properly -- lots of detailed information and scripts, and 
explanations of the scripts (so that you feel comfortable to modify them on 
your own) -- this book is thousands of pages. Unwritable, unreadable and 
unaffordable.

BUT... much of this is covered either in books already in existence or
in the process of being written.

Rachel


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>Subject: RE: OT - Wrap-up of 'Serious Question (believe it or not)...'
>Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 15:50:19 -0800
>
>
>Hi Jim,
>
>I have an idea for a book. I don´t know if it has been written before , but
>I think that it would be very useful to a lot of people.
>
>Oracle High Availability:
>- Recovery scenarios (The author could put scripts to backup archive logs ,
>tips about archiving , recovering , how Oracle process instance recovery ,
>case studies , etc...);
>- Stand-by Databases (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...);
>- OPS (concepts , implementations , pitfalls , etc...);
>- Replication (as a tool to keep another database in sync with production
>databases);
>- Hardware concepts (redundancy , RAID controllers , clusters , SANs ,
>etc...);
>- Tips & Techniques for a 24 x 7 x 365 environment (administration , online
>backups , archiving , change manegement , etc...);
>- It could have a chapter with an overview or introduction about Oracle 9i
>Real Application Clusters.
>
>Of course , someone would ask "Why don´t you write it yourself ??".
>
>1st : I have a 1-year old baby to take care , and I can´t let all the
>duties ( and happiness :- ) to my wife;
>2nd : I take care of 15 databases on my daily job and none of them is 24 x
>7 x 365. So , I don´t feel comfortable to write about the matter;
>3rd : My English isn´t good.
>
>If is there a book similar , sorry about the waste of time , and , please ,
>could you give me the name of this book ??
>
>Regards,
>Antonio Belloni
>
>
>
>
>"Hawkins Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@fatcity.com on 09/06/2001 11:05:21
>
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>Yes, but this leads to virtual hang-over which is a very good thing...
>
>^
>Jim Hawkins
>Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator
>MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc.
>501 Pearl Drive
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>-Original Message-
>Aschenbrenner
>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 6:33 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>I think I've had too many virtual beers.  I'm getting a virtual buzz
>
>Alan
>
>-Original Message-
>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:46 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>Always glad to spread some semi-on-topic humor on Fridays.  It helps me
>out
>of the daily drone mode...
>
>By Monday, I'll be back to my serious, helpful, wannabe-guru self!
>
>Cheers, everyoneand another round of virtual Guiness on me!
>
>Jim
>
>
> >
> > Oh god Jim, this is the best laugh I have
> > had in days!
> >
> > Thank you, thank you, thank you!
> >
> > Jared  ( still laughing )
> >
> > On Friday 08 June 2001 08:47, Jim Hawkins wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Hidden Parameter, Crouching Developer - or How I Learned to Love
>the
> > > Larry" directed by Jim Hawkins.
> > >
> > > Starring (not in order of importance):
> > > *Larry Ellison as God
> > > *Bill "Shrek" Thater as The Enforcer (a gentle assassin with a
> > > compassionate heart)
> > > *Ross Mohan as Hannibal (speedo-wearing cannibal)
> > > *Rachel Carmichael as The Goddess (a do-good angel caught between
>Heaven
> > > and Hell)
> > > *Jared Still as Charlie (the voice behind the chair)
> > >
> > > And anyone else that wants a part, just let me know.  Haven't built
>a
> > > story-line yet, but wht could possibly go wrong with this winning
> > > combination film?
> > >
> > > But seriously, sorry about this post - it's Friday, I'm in a good
>mood,
>and
> > > have my databases all running so well, that I could spend 15 minutes
>
>typing
> > > this email.
> > >
> > > Virtual Guiness Stout to all on the list, compliments of my new film
> > > company.
> > >
> > > Jim
> >
> >
>
>
>--
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>MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc.
>600 Pearl Drive
>St. Louis, MO  633376
>9636) 474-7832
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