Re: strange problem with v$recover_file ???

2001-08-28 Thread Rukmini Devi

Hi ,

  ONLINE is a reserved word.  It should not be used as a column name. I
think it is bug.

rukmini
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 All, I got a problem with v$recover_file.  Somehow the
 query failed if selecting is on ONLINE column.

 SQL desc v$recover_file;

  Name  Null?Type
  - 
 ---
  FILE#  NUMBER
  ONLINE VARCHAR2(7)
  ERROR  VARCHAR2(18)
  CHANGE#NUMBER
  TIME   DATE



 These are OK:
 ---
 select  CHANGE#  from v$recover_file;
 select TIME from  v$recover_file;
 select * from v$recover_file;

 However these gave me error:
 
 select  ONLINE from v$recover_file;
 select online, ERROR from  v$recover_file;
 select  FILE# , ONLINE,ERROR , CHANGE#,TIME from
 v$recover_file;
  *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-00936: missing expression

 SQL select v.name, b.online
   2  from v$datafile v, v$recover_file b
   3  where v.file# = b.file#;
 select v.name, b.online
  *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-01747: invalid user.table.column, table.column, or
 column specification


 What's happening?!  Thank you.

 Andrea

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RE: FROM SRINIVAS -HELP

2001-08-28 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran

If those records are able to retrieve by a query, then u can use export with
query option too.

Nirmal.

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 Subject:  Re: FROM SRINIVAS -HELP
 
 
 
 Some requirements please:
 
 is it ok if a row is chosen more than once?
 
 it will be statistically impossible to pick 10 million
 rows from a set of 44 million without many duplicates.
 
 if it is ok, just write a pl/sql script to loop through
 the table, skip a random number of rows, grab one, repeat.
 
 you will likely have to scan the table multiple times.
 
 not very efficient.  but hey!, I'm just the idea man here.  :)
 
 if you don't want duplicates, you will need to track those that
 you have already chosen and skip them.  this has the potential
 to be a very long running script.
 
 why not just go throught the entire table once, pick every 4th
 row, and be done with it?
 
 Not random, but just how important is randomness to you?  you 
 didn't state the purpose of this exercise.
 
 Jared
 
 On Monday 27 August 2001 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have 44 million records in my table.I need to extract the 10 million
  records randomly,how to retrieve these records randomly. I used the
  dbms_random.sql ,but I have a doubt that I was correct or not.
  can U please guide me or just send a piece of code.
  Thanking U
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RE: strange problem with v$recover_file ???

2001-08-28 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Andrea,

From Metalink, the column is defined in uppercase:

SQL select online from v$recover_file;
select online from v$recover_file
   *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00936: missing expression


SQL select ONLINE from v$recover_file;

no rows selected

Also, online is a reserved word and that is why you originally get the
ora-00936 error:

SQL select * from v$reserved_words where keyword ='ONLINE';

KEYWORD  LENGTH
 --
ONLINE6

SQL 

Regards,
Bruce Reardon.

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Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2001 8:22 

All, I got a problem with v$recover_file.  Somehow the
query failed if selecting is on ONLINE column.

SQL desc v$recover_file;

 Name  Null?Type
 - 
---
 FILE#  NUMBER
 ONLINE VARCHAR2(7)
 ERROR  VARCHAR2(18)
 CHANGE#NUMBER
 TIME   DATE



These are OK:
---
select  CHANGE#  from v$recover_file; 
select TIME from  v$recover_file;
select * from v$recover_file;

However these gave me error:

select  ONLINE from v$recover_file;
select online, ERROR from  v$recover_file;
select  FILE# , ONLINE,ERROR , CHANGE#,TIME from 
v$recover_file;
 *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00936: missing expression

SQL select v.name, b.online
  2  from v$datafile v, v$recover_file b
  3  where v.file# = b.file#; 
select v.name, b.online
 *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01747: invalid user.table.column, table.column, or
column specification


What's happening?!  Thank you.

Andrea
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Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Jared Still


Please reread my previous post.

Jared

On Monday 27 August 2001 22:00, Jenkins, Michael wrote:
 Sorry, I was just observing our fine country's fair use laws.  If I pay
 for a CD then I should be allowed to back it up just in case the disc
 becomes unusable.  Please don't use the information I've provided if you
 intend to pirate CDs.  After all Thomas Jefferson would be very happy to
 know that we are reverting back to his original concept of copyright law
 which only entitled exclusive ownership of your works for a limited time -
 - after that it went into the public domain!

 --Michael

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 Please, let's not distribute copyright infringement
 schemes via this list.

 Opinions on fairness of the law, etc., are really
 not important here either.

 Jared

 On Monday 27 August 2001 08:46, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:
  Actually, I have the crack to AOE, you want it?
 
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  Tom
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  Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM
  burner. I
  couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires,
  Return Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
  games just hung
  when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's
  or am I
  doing something wrong?
 
  Tom
 
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Re: DBMS_JOB Help

2001-08-28 Thread Paul Drake

Rangachari Sundar wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Can Anyone tell me how to stop a background job initiated through a
 DBMS_JOB package when it is no longer required?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Regards
 Sundar
 
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desc dbms_job

I believe that this will have some effect:

exec dbms_job.isbroken(:job_id,true); 

- and - you could kill the SNPn process that is executing the job. 
Use orakill for best results.
Just killing the session is too ineffective.
If you just kill the SNPn process without breaking the job first, the
next SNPn process will start it back up again.

disclaimer: posting from memory without reading anything.

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RE: svrmgrl, sqlplus question ???

2001-08-28 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran

in dos prompt,
c:\ sqlplus /nolog

sqlconnect / as sysdba
sql sho user
SYS

now you can do all dba activities in this account.

Nirmal.
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 Hi all,
 
 In sqlplus, you can use col ... format ... to make
 the output pretty. Can we format columns, make title
 in svrmgrl?  
 
 Also I read that sqlplus can be used to mount, open
 database in 8i, but I don't see how.  
 
 The db is 815 on Sun 5.6.  
 
 Thank you!
 
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Re: Efficient way to monitor table growth...

2001-08-28 Thread Jonas A Wetterberg

I hade to make a little script a while ago to figure out the numbers of
rows/table. 

Declare
  cursor tables is
   select object_name, owner
   from all_objects
   where object_type = 'TABLE'
   order by owner;

  stmt_ VARCHAR2(2000);
  rows_ NUMBER;
 begin

  For rec_ IN tables LOOP
stmt_ := 'SELECT count(*) from ' || rec_.owner || '.' ||
rec_.object_name;
EXECUTE IMMEDIATE stmt_ INTO rows_;
   
Dbms_Output.Put_Line('Table: ' || rec_.owner || '.' || rec_.object_name
|| ' has ' || rows_ || ' rader');

  END LOOP;

end;

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Hi DBA's

Does an Oracle Stored Procedure or function exist that returns the row count

by table in each tablespace?
I've observed that one of our production tablespaces is has only 8% free 
space. Perhaps it could be fragmented. I'll have to find a script that can 
provide these statistics. I know I'll need to add another datafile to the 
tablespace soon.
However, I'd like to find out which are the active tables in each tablespace

and track the row insert growth on a daily basis.

Any ideas?

Thanks for your help.

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RE: creating the database from another

2001-08-28 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz



Ok Thomas , 
thank you but another question rises here for me. 

  The drive of 
soucedb is E but my targetdb will be on D drive. How will I manager that 
?
  And in 
the control file backup , there is "reuse" keyword . will I neglect it? 


Thank you
Bunyamin


Fwd: OT: Magazines for Oracle unix performance

2001-08-28 Thread Viraj Luthra

Hello all,

Any recos. for this? I am subscribed to Oracle Mag. but any others out there, which I 
can make use of on a day to day basis!

rgds,

raja 
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Hello all,

I want to subscribe to some top magazines for oracle  unix performance. Do you have 
any recommendations for this, I need the best one for both of them. Please while 
recommending explain what you liked about the magazines, like eg you like magazine x 
because it carries performance issues and they are explined in detail month after 
month, or magazine y because it is trnedy and explains technology features soming in 
the market for unix or oracle. 

This is just an example, but feel free to comment, why you recommend what you are 
recommending. 

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Re: svrmgrl, sqlplus question ???

2001-08-28 Thread Paul Drake

yes, if you can get console access, this is how you log in as a member
of the ORA_DBA group.
So what's your point?
If you had console access, you could have just deleted and recreated the
password file.
Those extra 75 characters typed by typing orapwd ... would slow the
would-be cracker up just a bit - but not alot.


Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran wrote:
 
 in dos prompt,
 c:\ sqlplus /nolog
 
 sqlconnect / as sysdba
 sql sho user
 SYS
 
 now you can do all dba activities in this account.
 
 Nirmal.
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  Subject:  svrmgrl, sqlplus question ???
 
  Hi all,
 
  In sqlplus, you can use col ... format ... to make
  the output pretty. Can we format columns, make title
  in svrmgrl?
 
  Also I read that sqlplus can be used to mount, open
  database in 8i, but I don't see how.
 
  The db is 815 on Sun 5.6.
 
  Thank you!
 
  Janet
 
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RE: ORA-10027 in ps/sql block

2001-08-28 Thread Thomas, Kevin

What does the code look like?

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I have a developer here who is trying to populate a cursor.  Every time he
runs his code he gets the above error stating that the buffer is too small.
We have tried explicitly setting the buffer to 1,000,000 bytes.  This is FAR
greater than needed for the amount of data requested.  No matter what buffer
size we set he still gets the overflow.

We have tried both of the following ideas from metalink

Any ideas?

Rodd Holman

Doc ID:   Note:1005230.6Content Type:
TEXT/PLAIN
26-AUG-1994
Type: PROBLEM   Last Revision Date:
13-JAN-1995
Status:   PUBLISHED


Problem Description:



Problem Explanation:



NEW PROBLEM

Solution: INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE BUFFER


Solution Description: 
= 
   
Increase the size of the buffer.  The size of the buffer must be an integer 
between  
2,000 and 1,000,000. 
   
Solution Explanation: 
= 
   
Use one of the following two methods to increase the size of the buffer: 
   
1.  At the SQL*PLUS or SQL*DBA prompt, type 
SET SERVEROUTPUT ON SIZE n 
where n is an integer between 2,000 and 1,000,000.  
 
Example: To increase the buffer size to 10,000 type 
SET SERVEROUTPUT ON SIZE 1 
 
2. Inside the PL/SQL block type 
   DBMS_OUTPUT.ENABLE(n) 
   where n is an integer between 2,000 and 1,000,000.  
   
   See Appendix A of the Oracle7 Server Application Developer's Guide for 
   an explanation of the ENABLE command.
  .
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Re: tnsnames error

2001-08-28 Thread nlzanen1


Hi,


DBA-Studio is absolutly horrible with tnsnames.ora files. It expects the
exact formatting as done by the net assistant. Any manual alteration may
cause the behaviour you are experiencing.


Jack




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  I am getting an error when I try to connect to the DBA Studio of Or9iAS
the error is  failed to parse tnsnames.ora file Error:100 --NLNV-NLNV
String
format error. I tried to recreate a new tnsnames,but again shows the same.
Do
any body know how to rectify the error.

Thanks
Ravi






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Re: Installing 73 and 816 on one NT server?

2001-08-28 Thread Paul Drake

maybe he's just a fan of dirty_region_logging :)

Mohan, Ross wrote:
 
  YES
 
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  nobody would be that dumb, would they? :)
 
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RE: A quick pl/sql datatypes question

2001-08-28 Thread Thomas, Kevin

It may be better to name it specifically as INTEGER etc. but good practice
would dictate using the %TYPE option..

K.

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Dear gurus !
What is better performance-wise - to declare a variable inside a pl/sql
block (or a trigger) as integer (number , Pls_integer etc..) or as
mytable.mycolumn%TYPE .
Again , i'm concerned ONLY about performance in this question.

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RE: OT RE: RE: How do you audit a DBA?

2001-08-28 Thread Guy Hammond
Title: RE: OT RE: RE: How do you audit a DBA?



I 
went to see that movie, The Mummy Returns, when it came out, 'cos The Rock was 
in it, and I was hoping for some long, rambling monologues from the Scorpion 
King about how he planned to lay the smackdown on the Egyptians' candy asses, 
shut your mouth and know your role Imhotep, FINALLY the ROCK has come BACK to 
CAIRO! and so forth.

Instead, he didn't say much at all. But that's OK, 
I'llhappily watch any movie with Rachel Weisz in... 
;0)

g


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  C'mon. I'd vote for The Rock 
  instead, along with all The Rock's "witty" comments. That would be 
  awfully darn distracting, and you could be sure your DBA would get NOTHING 
  done :)
  Honestly, if there's a need to audit 
  the dba, maybe he or she should be replaced? Just curious. 
  Can you smell... what 
  huge awful mess the DBA... is cooking? 
  Sorry, couldn't resist 
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator 954-935-4117 
  
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I have all of them save two, one of which was 
mailed to me last week... 
I think I have way too many Conan novels, it's 
like Harlequin for men! 
I have many double copies, I think I'll post them 
on eBay eventually to get rid of 
them. 
: ) 
Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) 
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 this 
mistrusted dba all day? 
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RE: Magazines for Oracle unix performance

2001-08-28 Thread Guy Hammond

I used to read Sun World from time to time, they usually had
Solaris-specific tuning tips. The web site seems to have been replaced
by this:

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2378/UnixInsider/

This might be what you're looking for:

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/3380/UIR010329cockcroftletters/


HTH,

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Hello all,

I want to subscribe to some top magazines for oracle  unix performance.
Do you have any recommendations for this, I need the best one for both
of them. Please while recommending explain what you liked about the
magazines, like eg you like magazine x because it carries performance
issues and they are explined in detail month after month, or magazine y
because it is trnedy and explains technology features soming in the
market for unix or oracle. 

This is just an example, but feel free to comment, why you recommend
what you are recommending. 

TIA,

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RE: svrmgrl, sqlplus question ???

2001-08-28 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran

Hi pual,

i just replied for 'how to do db activities through SQLplus'.

Nirmal.

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 yes, if you can get console access, this is how you log in as a member
 of the ORA_DBA group.
 So what's your point?
 If you had console access, you could have just deleted and recreated the
 password file.
 Those extra 75 characters typed by typing orapwd ... would slow the
 would-be cracker up just a bit - but not alot.
 
 
 Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran wrote:
  
  in dos prompt,
  c:\ sqlplus /nolog
  
  sqlconnect / as sysdba
  sql sho user
  SYS
  
  now you can do all dba activities in this account.
  
  Nirmal.
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   Hi all,
  
   In sqlplus, you can use col ... format ... to make
   the output pretty. Can we format columns, make title
   in svrmgrl?
  
   Also I read that sqlplus can be used to mount, open
   database in 8i, but I don't see how.
  
   The db is 815 on Sun 5.6.
  
   Thank you!
  
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Restoring from half a backup

2001-08-28 Thread Greg Solomon

Hi

Can someone help me out with a restore question ?

Suppose that I have a cold backup of users.dbf as at date X, and all other
files as at date Y.  All the business data would be in users.dbf, all the
indexes would be in the other files.  Would it be possible to build a
database using resetlogs or something ?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers
Greg
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Windows application - Linux server

2001-08-28 Thread Vandana Ponnuru

Hi all,
  I would like to develop a windows (Windows 98)application, which will have to 
connect to an oracle database (8.1.6) running on a Linux machine ( RH 7.0 ). Can 
somebody please advice me as to which of the following can be chosen:

1). Which language or GUI interface would be efficient?
 VB, VC++ or is there something else ?
2). Which is the best way to connect to the database? 
 ODBC, OLEDB , Activex Data Objects  or
 anything other than these ?
 And also how about using pro_c++?
 
 This is the first time I am trying to develop an application for Windows, so I 
donot have any idea about these technologies, but I would like to choose the best one 
before I start to learn about it. Can someone please help me or guide me to some 
resource which will provide this information? I don't require information about the 
technologies themselves, just tell me which the best one is and I will manage to learn 
it myself.
  Thanks for any help.

PS: Even, if you have experience working with only one of the technologies, please 
mail back with the experiences you had with it. In this way we can compare all the 
individual experiences and will be able to make out something out of it.
 

 



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Preventing logins from applications

2001-08-28 Thread Denham Eva

Hi Gurus

Has anyone ever had to prevent users from accessing the Database from other
applications other than those sanctioned by the company.
ie prevent users accessing the database using Microsoft's Access and yet
still be able to access via the company application which also uses ODBC.
OR preventing users accessing the DB via sqlplus but still through the app.

I would appreciate any knowledge that can be shared on this topic.
Many Thanks
Denham
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Re: Preventing logins from applications

2001-08-28 Thread Joe Testa

we have prevented DML, but not selects, we didnt much care about selects
but changes were not allowed except thru the app.

we used the procedure set_client_info, read_client_info which are part
of the dbms_application_info package, here is the 10 second guide to
implementation:

this assumes you can alter the app.

1. your app upon login to the database calls the set_client_info with
some key, it can be 40 bytes and we usually made it 40 random
characters.

2.  a table exists with one or more valid key

3.  a before insert,update,delete trigger exists on every table that you
want to have security on, it read the client info(via read_client_info
proc), compares it to legal values in the valid key table.  If it
matches, drop out of the trigger, if it does not match, raise an
exception, stating invalid appl for updates, notify...

4.  We used this not only as a way to make sure only certain apps could
update, but when we put out a new version, we changed the key, and didnt
let the old version into the database to do updates, since we removed
the old keys from the tables.

If you want to see some specifics of how we did it, email me direct.

joe
Denham Eva wrote:
 
 Hi Gurus
 
 Has anyone ever had to prevent users from accessing the Database from other
 applications other than those sanctioned by the company.
 ie prevent users accessing the database using Microsoft's Access and yet
 still be able to access via the company application which also uses ODBC.
 OR preventing users accessing the DB via sqlplus but still through the app.
 
 I would appreciate any knowledge that can be shared on this topic.
 Many Thanks
 Denham



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Fast Cold Backup to DDS3

2001-08-28 Thread Sinardy

Hi all,


I have redundancy set (database files, redo logs, control files, no archive,
*.ora) files total about 10 GIG
and I need them to be backup every week to DDS3 tape.

Current script something like

tar -cv file1
tar -uv file2
tar -uv file3


It took 1 whole day  operator complain


So I thinking to tune this script to be like

1. Shutdown database
2. compress all those files to other name
3. Startup database
4. split those files compressed file if more than 2 GB
5a. tar -cvf file1 file2 file3is all in one block
or
5b. tar -cvf /dev/rmt/0n file1is new block
tar -cvf /dev/rmt/0n file2is new block


My problem is in step 2 and 5

1. how to compress a file with output to other files,
   so that I can proceed to step #3 without wait till backup finish and
uncompress those compressed files.
   (Perhaps I can copy the compressed file into other name - quick and dirty
!!?)

2. To utilise the I/O or not rewinding the tape,
   what is the suitable option (parameter) for my tar command, especially if
we have long block in front of the tape.



Or perhaps you have other methods



Thank You

Sinardy

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Re: Preventing logins from applications

2001-08-28 Thread Stephane Faroult


 Hi Gurus
 
 Has anyone ever had to prevent users from accessing the Database from other
 applications other than those sanctioned by the company.
 ie prevent users accessing the database using Microsoft's Access and yet
 still be able to access via the company application which also uses ODBC.
 OR preventing users accessing the DB via sqlplus but still through the app.
 
 I would appreciate any knowledge that can be shared on this topic.
 Many Thanks
 Denham

If your applications are properly written and use dbms_application_info to 
record some kind of signature, one solution with Oracle8i and above is a 
trigger when logging in which you check the current application (and the 
current user, I guess that you do not want DBAs to be prevented from using 
SQL*Plus) against the contents of some ALLOWED table (in fact you could mimic 
what exists with Unix for, say, rsh and the like and have some ALLOW and DENY 
tables) and fails if needed; a kind of rough generalisation of what Oracle has 
implemented with SQL*Plus and PRODUCT_USER_PROFILE. With a prior version, you 
can write some kind of daemon program which scans V$SESSION at regular 
intervals, and mercilessly kills unwelcome sessions.

HTH,

Stephane Faroult
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Change parameter without restart db

2001-08-28 Thread Sinardy

Hi all,

I have a stupid question for all of you.

To change our Oracle parameters can we modify our parameter table to avoid
downtime (restart DB).


Thank you

Sinardy

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Permanent Tablespace for sorting.

2001-08-28 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Title: Permanent Tablespace for sorting. 






Oracle recommends creation of separate temporary tablespace for sort operations. 
Is there any advantage in using a permanent tablespace instead of a temporary for sort operations? 


rgds
amar





RE: How fast are your tape backups?

2001-08-28 Thread Gene Sais

SP 80 AIX 4.3.3
Legato 6.1
IBM 3494 Silo 3590 Tape drives

The following stats are for 1 drive:
--
on backup server: 90gb/hr
on db server connected thru high speed switch: 36gb/hr
on nt server thru 100mb network: 3.6gb/hr

hth, 
Gene

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50 gigs in 1.5 hours.

HPUX 10.20
OmniBack 3.5
Oracle 7.3.4
HP DLT8000

Regards,
Satar Naghshineh

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 Hello list.  I have a brand new database that is around 200 GB in
 size.  Our tape backup solution which was supplied by the hosting
 company is only giving me bewteen 6 and 7 MB per second .  A full cold
 backup can take 8 to 10 hours at this rate.  
 
 I looked at the specs for the tape library they sold us and it says
 15MB/sec or up to 30 MB/sec compressed.  What gives?  The storage is
 SCSI 3 and also some Fibre channel so I don't think the drives are the
 bottleneck.
 
 What kind of numbers are other people getting?
 
 The system
 NT 4 
 4GB RAM
 400 GB storage (mix of SCSI 3 and fibre)
 Oracle 8.1.6.3.0
 ~ 200 GB in Oracle data files
 Tivoli Storage Manager
 IBM robotic  tape library (via fibre)
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RE: tab ascii value

2001-08-28 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: tab ascii value





Srinivas,
I have managed the following PL/SQL but I have not worked out how to show the tab and CR return characters etc. Perhaps someone else can help

John
SCRIPT start xx
declare
V_chr varchar2(3);
ctr number;
begin
 for ctr in 1..255 loop
 select chr(ctr) into V_chr from dual;
-- dbms_output.put_line(V_chr);
 dbms_output.put_line('Chr value '||ctr||' = '||V_chr||' ');
end loop;
end;
SCRIPT ends 
Chr value 1 = 
Chr value 2 = 
Chr value 3 = 
Chr value 4 = 
Chr value 5 = 
Chr value 6 = 
Chr value 7 = 
Chr value 8 = 
Chr value 9 = 
Chr value 10 = 


Chr value 11 = 


Chr value 12 = 


Chr value 13 = 
Chr value 14 = 
Chr value 15 = 
Chr value 16 = 
Chr value 17 = 
Chr value 18 = 
Chr value 19 = 
Chr value 20 = 
Chr value 21 = 
Chr value 22 = 
Chr value 23 = 
Chr value 24 = 
Chr value 25 = 
Chr value 26 = 
Chr value 27 = 
hr value 28 = 
Chr value 29 = 
Chr value 30 = 
Chr value 31 = 
Chr value 32 =
Chr value 33 = !
Chr value 34 = 
Chr value 35 = #
Chr value 36 = $
Chr value 37 = %
Chr value 38 = 
Chr value 39 = '
Chr value 40 = (
Chr value 41 = )
Chr value 42 = *
Chr value 43 = +
Chr value 44 = ,
Chr value 45 = -
Chr value 46 = .
Chr value 47 = /
Chr value 48 = 0
Chr value 49 = 1
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Chr value 143 = ?
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Chr value 145 = ?
Chr value 146 = ?
Chr value 147 = ?
Chr value 148 = ?
Chr value 149 = ?
Chr value 150 = ?
Chr value 151 = ?
Chr value 152 = ?
Chr value 153 = ?
Chr value 154 = ?
Chr value 155 = ?
Chr value 156 = ?
Chr value 157 = ?
Chr value 158 = ?
Chr value 159 = ?
Chr value 160 =
Chr value 161 = !
Chr value 162 = ?
Chr value 163 = #
Chr value 164 = ?
Chr value 165 = Y
Chr value 166 = |
Chr value 167 = ?
Chr value 168 = ?
Chr value 169 = ?
Chr value 170 = ?
Chr value 171 = 
Chr value 172 = ?
Chr value 173 = -
Chr value 174 = ?
Chr value 175 = ?
Chr value 176 = ?
Chr value 177 = ?
Chr value 178 = ?
Chr value 179 = ?
Chr value 180 = '
Chr value 181 = ?
Chr value 182 = ?
Chr value 183 = ?
Chr value 184 = ?
Chr value 185 = ?
Chr value 186 = ?
Chr value 187 = 
Chr value 188 = ?
Chr value 189 = ?
Chr value 190 = ?
Chr value 191 = ?
Chr value 192 = A
Chr value 193 = A
Chr value 194 = A
Chr value 195 = ?
Chr value 196 = A
Chr value 197 = ?
Chr value 198 = ?
Chr value 199 = C
Chr value 200 = E
Chr value 201 = E
Chr value 202 = E
Chr value 203 = E
Chr value 204 = I
Chr value 205 = I
Chr value 206 = I
Chr value 207 = I
Chr value 208 = ?
Chr value 209 = ?
Chr value 210 = O
Chr value 211 = O
Chr value 212 = O
Chr value 213 = ?
Chr value 214 = O
Chr value 215 = ?
Chr value 216 = ?
Chr value 217 = U
Chr value 218 = U
Chr value 219 = U
Chr value 220 = U
Chr value 221 = Y
Chr value 222 = ?
Chr value 223 = ?
Chr value 224 = a
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V_chr varchar2(3);
ctr number;
begin
 for ctr in 1..255 loop
 select chr(ctr) into V_chr from dual;
-- dbms_output.put_line(V_chr);
 dbms_output.put_line('Chr value '||ctr||' = '||V_chr||' ');
end loop;
end;
Chr value 225 = a
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Chr 

RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Terrian, Tom

Jared, In the US and Canada it is not illegal to make archival backups of your
software.  It is not copyright infringement.

Tom Terrian
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Please reread my previous post.

Jared

On Monday 27 August 2001 22:00, Jenkins, Michael wrote:
 Sorry, I was just observing our fine country's fair use laws.  If I pay
 for a CD then I should be allowed to back it up just in case the disc
 becomes unusable.  Please don't use the information I've provided if you
 intend to pirate CDs.  After all Thomas Jefferson would be very happy to
 know that we are reverting back to his original concept of copyright law
 which only entitled exclusive ownership of your works for a limited time -
 - after that it went into the public domain!

 --Michael

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 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:00 PM
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 Please, let's not distribute copyright infringement
 schemes via this list.

 Opinions on fairness of the law, etc., are really
 not important here either.

 Jared

 On Monday 27 August 2001 08:46, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:
  Actually, I have the crack to AOE, you want it?
 
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  Tom
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
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  Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM
  burner. I
  couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires,
  Return Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
  games just hung
  when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's
  or am I
  doing something wrong?
 
  Tom
 
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RE: creating the database from another

2001-08-28 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F




Bunyamin

There 
are two ways to do this.

The 
easiest way is to re-create the control files like I told you in the last 
email. Before you run the sql script, be sure and edit it to change the 
location of all of the data files from the E to the D drive.

As far 
as the "reuse" command, you can ignore it. If you are going to re-create 
the control files, you donot have to copy them from the SourceDB to the 
TargetDB as you will be creating them fresh.

The 
second way to do this is to copy everything as I told you, and create the Oracle 
service.
Get 
into svrmgrl and issue a Startup Mount command.
Then 
issue "Alter Database Rename File 'E:filename' to 'D:filename" for each and 
every datafile in your database (Redo Logs, and all 
Tablespaces).
After 
you have done this, you should be able to issue an Alter Database Open command, 
and you should be all set.

Good 
Luck!

Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 

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  RE: creating the database from another
  Ok Thomas , 
  thank you but another question rises here for me. 
  
The drive 
  of soucedb is E but my targetdb will be on D drive. How will I manager that 
  ?
And 
  in the control file backup , there is "reuse" keyword . will I neglect 
  it? 
  
  Thank you
  Bunyamin


RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...

2001-08-28 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Ding, ding.  Give that pretty young lady a prize.  I cpio'ed them last night
with no problems.  I can't believe they didn't compress them.  They end with
.gz and they tell you to uncompress them.  Does Oracle's left hand talk to
the right hand?

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yeah, and they said the same thing about the solaris ones... and you didn't 
have to unzip them either


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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:53:40 -0800

Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to 
use
gunzip to unzip them.

Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult...

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I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be
unzipped.



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 Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from
 technet.oracle.com.  I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, 
but
 gunzip is not recognizing the files.  I switched back to Windoze and 
using
 Winzip it doesnt like the files either.  So I redownloaded just the 
smaller
 third file and neither will uncompress the file.  Am I missing something
 here?
 
 I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to 
work,
 so I have been downloading the files using Windoze.  Could that be the
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 TIA!!
 
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RE: User/Schema ?

2001-08-28 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Richard,

The easiest way to move the data would be to perform an Export on the
production DB,
make sure all of the users/roles exist in the TestDB, and perform an Import.
You could also set up database links and simply copy the tables (in logical
order to make sure all PK/FK constraints will work).  Any PL/SQL stuff you
have in the Producution DB will need to be moved by hand.

Just a comment - if it was me, I would create the same tablespaces in
development as in production.  A true Dev environment should require a
structure that prod would follow - just for proper testing and data access
mirroring.  It will make changes much easier to apply as you move forward -
like if you create a new table, and assign it to a tablespace in dev.  If
you do not have the same tablespace structure, you would need to remember to
change the script for prod.

hope this helps

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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The database setup for an application is as follows...schema1 (owns objects)
and schema2 (accesses objects owned by schema1).
I need to copy the DB setup for the application to a test server set up with
a development-like setup, i.e. instead of the tablespaces that are created
in production for the application there is a generic USERS tablespace,
etc...  Can anyone give suggestions on what the quickest way to copy the
schemas would be given the difference with the physical setup (disk layout)
and logical setup (different tablespaces)???  What are my alternatives?

TIA,

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RE: Change parameter without restart db

2001-08-28 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Change parameter without restart db





Sinardy, 


Look at v$parameter, at ISSYS_MODIFIABLE. If it is FALSE, you have to restart the db for the change to take effect. 


Lisa Koivu
Gimme a PC and I'll Break It, Guaranteed and DBA
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA


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Hi all,


I have a stupid question for all of you.


To change our Oracle parameters can we modify our parameter table to avoid
downtime (restart DB).



Thank you


Sinardy


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Re:RE: Permanent Tablespace for sorting.

2001-08-28 Thread dgoulet

Chris,

I've always used a permanent tablespace for temp and have not had the
problems you state.  But it does take some consistency to maintain.

1- we never allow anyone a quota on temp or even allow anyone to have that as
their default.  Come to think of it only sys has system as it's default
tablespace.  We also do not allow 'unlimited tablespace' even to purchased apps.
2- The ST enqueue has not been a problem, actually have 0 contention there even
in the data warehouse.
3- we don't back it up.  Have had one get trashed, along with the disk drive. 
Did an offline drop and rebuilt it elsewhere.

Dick Goulet

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No, it is generally better practice to use temporary tablespace for the
following reasons.
 
1.  You will not accidentently store objects in it.
2.  Reduced contention for the ST enqueue
3. Reduce backup and recovery time
 
Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Oracle recommends creation of separate temporary tablespace for sort
operations.  
Is there any advantage in using a permanent tablespace instead of a
temporary for sort operations? 

rgds 
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Re: Change parameter without restart db

2001-08-28 Thread murosa

You must check in V$PARAMETER if that parameter you want modified 
it's possible. In that view you have two columns ISSES_MODIFIABLE and 
ISSYS_MODIFIABLE, and they say toy you if you can modify that parameter 
to session or system level. If both are false only it's possible 
modifing initSISçD.ora and restart instance.

HTH.

Regards, Miguel Urosa.

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Re:How fast are your tape backups?

2001-08-28 Thread dgoulet

J.C. and Sinardy,

I'll try to compress two threads into one since they are almost identical. 
Backing up the database to tape can be a major pain and time consumer if you
allow the backup software to do the data compression for you.  Hardware
compression done inside the tape subsystem is always faster since your using
cache ram outside of your system and dedicated chips for the purpose.  Therefore
to get your SA's  or Operators off of your backs try it that way.  If your on a
UNIX type of system you'll notice several device files for the tape drive, use
lssf to see what each is set up for and use the one that allows the drive to do
the compression.  I know NT does not allow that, but I believe Tivoli does have
a 'switch' that will force the compression onto the drive.

Dick Goulet

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Author: J.C. Stofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   8/27/2001 5:05 PM

Hello list.  I have a brand new database that is around 200 GB in
size.  Our tape backup solution which was supplied by the hosting
company is only giving me bewteen 6 and 7 MB per second .  A full cold
backup can take 8 to 10 hours at this rate.  

I looked at the specs for the tape library they sold us and it says
15MB/sec or up to 30 MB/sec compressed.  What gives?  The storage is
SCSI 3 and also some Fibre channel so I don't think the drives are the
bottleneck.

What kind of numbers are other people getting?

The system
NT 4 
4GB RAM
400 GB storage (mix of SCSI 3 and fibre)
Oracle 8.1.6.3.0
~ 200 GB in Oracle data files
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RE: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS prompt/etc and choppy

2001-08-28 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn
Title: OT: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS prompt/etc and choppy sound



Not 
sure that I am having trouble with setup. It's just that the burner is not 
burning at 12x and I don't know why. It's on it's own seperate IDE port so 
it really shouldn't be complaining about anything!
KK

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark LeithSent: 
  Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:36 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS 
  prompt/etc and choppy
  We 
  use Nero here, and have no complaints with it. 
  
  One 
  thing to bear in mind - do you have any conflicts with your IRQ settings? If 
  you are on Win2K, then you can go to admin tools / Computer Management - and 
  take a look in the System Information / Hardware Resources / 
  Conflicts/Sharing tree, it should tell you there. There is also a folder 
  for IRQs, which will tell you what IRQ each component is set to. 
  
  
  If 
  not on Win2K then you can look at your IRQ settings within your BIOS set-up, 
  usually within PNP Configuration I think - but don't hold me to that :P 
  
  
  What 
  is the set up you are having problems with Ep? 
  
  Mark
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of Kevin KostyszynSent: Monday, August 27, 2001 
  17:51To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS prompt/etc and 
  choppy
  
We 
use a Plextor at my office and I run Veritas Backup Exec, surf the internet 
or any other programs and have never had a problem. Very impressive 
burner. Now my one at home is being a big pain in the arse because it 
doesn't want to operate at it's maximum transfer speed. very 
troubling...

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kimberly 
  SmithSent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:06 PMTo: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: system trivia 
  (groove/programming): DOS prompt/etc and choppy
  I don't think its memory related at all. I have more then 
  enough for what I do and it does 
  the same thing. That being said, before I cut a music CD it 
  even tells me not to launch
  any other applications as it is a "sensitive operation". I 
  have been snared where I was
  making a mp3 and I launched an application and now there is a dead 
  spot in the song.
  
-Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, August 27, 
2001 7:11 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: OT: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS 
prompt/etc and choppy
Really? I thought it was 
only because my personal pc has so little memory. I run into 
that behavior with explorer and playing mp3's at the same time. 
This also becomes a problem when burning a cd or changing formats, and 
even though I leave it alone, sometimes it ends up a bit 
garbled.
How much memory do you have, 
EP? If I remember right you are the gamer and bought the big huge 
system for the pc games? 

  -Original Message- 
  From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 6:51 PM 
  To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Subject: 
  Re: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS 
  prompt/etc and choppy sound 
  Here's a stab in the dark: 
  Windows still doesn't know how to 
  gracefully handle software 
  interrupts? 
  Jared 
  On Friday 24 August 2001 18:15, Eric D. 
  Pierce wrote:  system trivia 
  question:   when using windows explorer, etc., dos prompt 
  (e.g., sqlplus) and  running 
  music CD, the sound get choppy intermittently, usually when 
   starting a program, or when 
  opening/saving files.  
   why?   thanks, 
   ep 
ok, if you rally *have* *to* *know*: 
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B071FS 
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Re:DBMS_JOB

2001-08-28 Thread dgoulet

If you want to you can put the code into the 'what' parameter of
dbms_job.isubmit, but it is not a recommended practice.

Dick Goulet

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Hallo,

How can I schedule a pl/sql job, I want this to happen:

Every Sunday at 11 pm I want to do an  insert into a table.
How shoudl I write the code in the DBMS_JOB satement.?

Roland S



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RE: DBMS_JOB Help

2001-08-28 Thread Ramon Estevez

Hola,

You can use dbms_job.remove(jobnumber)

Suerte !!

Ramon E. Estevez
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Asunto: DBMS_JOB Help


Hi All,

Can Anyone tell me how to stop a background job initiated through a
DBMS_JOB package when it is no longer required?

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Sundar

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RE: Permanent Tablespace for sorting.

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence
Title: Message



No, it is 
generally better practice to use temporary tablespace for the following 
reasons.

1. You will 
not accidentently store objects in it.
2. Reduced 
contention for the ST enqueue
3. 
Reduce backup and recovery time

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a 
mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and 
have their shoes."
Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax: (707) 885-2275 
Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863  

  
  -Original Message-From: Amar Kumar Padhi 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:11 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Permanent Tablespace for sorting. 
  Oracle recommends creation of separate temporary 
  tablespace for sort operations. Is 
  there any advantage in using a permanent tablespace instead of a temporary for 
  sort operations? 
  rgds amar 


Re: svrmgrl, sqlplus question ???

2001-08-28 Thread Thater, William

Charlie Mengler wrote:

RANT
When I'm logged onto the Unix system as user oracle
using 9i, Oracle refuses to allow me to log into it by
just using /. It insists that always include the two
words  / as sysdba! Since it precludes me from
logging into Oracle just using /, what is gained by
forcing me to always specify as sysdba, too
/RANT

do you have OS authenticated accounts set up?  and do you have a prefix 
specified?  does 9i even do that?



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Re:Change parameter without restart db

2001-08-28 Thread dgoulet

Depends on the parameter.  Check out 'alter system' and 'alter database'  also a
look through the reference manual for your version will have a list of
parameters and if their dynamic (you can change them without a restart) or
static (meaning you'll have to bounce the database).

Dick Goulet

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Date:   8/28/2001 4:05 AM

Hi all,

I have a stupid question for all of you.

To change our Oracle parameters can we modify our parameter table to avoid
downtime (restart DB).


Thank you

Sinardy

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Materialized Views

2001-08-28 Thread Lindsay Stoddard

Hi List,

I am having trouble replicating a schema onto another database.  I have
looked at the Oracle documentation and am having a hard time deciding which
steps to take in accomplishing this task.  The schema includes tables
indexes, packages, and triggers.

I have had success in creating a materialized view but am unsure how it all
works with regards to including indexes, packages, and triggers and creating
materialized groups.

I was wondering if anyone has any simple examples of doing this (replication
of a whole schema) or if there are any white papers out there which can
explain this better than the Oracle documentation on Replication?

Thanks,

Lindsay Stoddard

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Re: creating the database from another

2001-08-28 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz



Thank you Thomas .
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mercadante, Thomas F 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 4:11 
  PM
  Subject: RE: creating the database from 
  another
  
  
  Bunyamin
  
  There are two ways to do this.
  
  The 
  easiest way is to re-create the control files like I told you in the last 
  email. Before you run the sql script, be sure and edit it to change the 
  location of all of the data files from the E to the D 
  drive.
  
  As 
  far as the "reuse" command, you can ignore it. If you are going to 
  re-create the control files, you donot have to copy them from the 
  SourceDB to the TargetDB as you will be creating them 
  fresh.
  
  The 
  second way to do this is to copy everything as I told you, and create the 
  Oracle service.
  Get 
  into svrmgrl and issue a Startup Mount command.
  Then 
  issue "Alter Database Rename File 'E:filename' to 'D:filename" for each and 
  every datafile in your database (Redo Logs, and all 
  Tablespaces).
  After you have done this, you should be able to issue 
  an Alter Database Open command, and you should be all 
  set.
  
  Good 
  Luck!
  
  Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 
  
-Original Message-From: Bunyamin K. Karadeniz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 
3:45 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: creating the database from 
another
Ok Thomas , 
thank you but another question rises here for 
me. 
  The drive 
of soucedb is E but my targetdb will be on D drive. How will I manager that 
?
  And 
in the control file backup , there is "reuse" keyword . will I neglect 
it? 

Thank you
Bunyamin


RE: Restoring from half a backup

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence

Yes, you would need to rebuild the control file without the other
tablespace(s) and open with reset logs.  Then immediately backup the
database.  Then you can create a new tablespace for indexes, and create the
indexes again.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Fax:(707) 885-2275

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Hi

Can someone help me out with a restore question ?

Suppose that I have a cold backup of users.dbf as at date X, and all other
files as at date Y.  All the business data would be in users.dbf, all the
indexes would be in the other files.  Would it be possible to build a
database using resetlogs or something ?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers
Greg
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RE: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS prompt/etc and choppy

2001-08-28 Thread Mark Leith
Title: OT: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS prompt/etc and choppy sound



Sorry 
Kevin, the latter of my response was to ep, and actually as I re-read it, I 
didn't explain fully. What I actually meant was to check whether the audio 
device (your sound card) is sharing an IRQ # with another device, such as your 
network card - or it could even be your hard drive. What will then happen is 
when you are playing a CD, you go to boot a program, and you HD has to do work 
to pull the program in to memory - but this disrupts your sound card as they are 
both sharing the same interrupt request..

Just a 
thought really..

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin KostyszynSent: 
  Tuesday, August 28, 2001 15:18To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS 
  prompt/etc and choppy
  Not 
  sure that I am having trouble with setup. It's just that the burner is not 
  burning at 12x and I don't know why. It's on it's own seperate IDE port 
  so it really shouldn't be complaining about anything!
  KK
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark LeithSent: 
Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:36 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS 
prompt/etc and choppy
We 
use Nero here, and have no complaints with it. 

One thing to bear in mind - do you have any 
conflicts with your IRQ settings? If you are on Win2K, then you can go to 
admin tools / Computer Management - and take a look in the System 
Information / Hardware Resources / Conflicts/Sharing tree, it should 
tell you there. There is also a folder for IRQs, which will tell you what 
IRQ each component is set to. 

If 
not on Win2K then you can look at your IRQ settings within your BIOS set-up, 
usually within PNP Configuration I think - but don't hold me to that :P 


What is the set up you are having problems with Ep? 


Mark

-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
Behalf Of Kevin KostyszynSent: Monday, August 27, 2001 
17:51To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RE: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS prompt/etc and 
choppy

  We use a Plextor at my office and I run Veritas Backup Exec, surf 
  the internet or any other programs and have never had a problem. 
  Very impressive burner. Now my one at home is being a big pain in 
  the arse because it doesn't want to operate at it's maximum transfer 
  speed. very troubling...
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kimberly 
SmithSent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:06 PMTo: 
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: system 
trivia (groove/programming): DOS prompt/etc and 
choppy
I don't think its memory related at all. I have more then 
enough for what I do and it does 
the same thing. That being said, before I cut a music CD it 
even tells me not to launch
any other applications as it is a "sensitive operation". I 
have been snared where I was
making a mp3 and I launched an application and now there is a 
dead spot in the song.

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, August 27, 
  2001 7:11 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: OT: system trivia (groove/programming): 
  DOS prompt/etc and choppy
  Really? I thought it 
  was only because my personal pc has so little memory. I 
  run into that behavior with explorer and playing mp3's at the same 
  time. This also becomes a problem when burning a cd or changing 
  formats, and even though I leave it alone, sometimes it ends up a bit 
  garbled.
  How much memory do you have, 
  EP? If I remember right you are the gamer and bought the big 
  huge system for the pc games? 
  
-Original Message- 
From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 6:51 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: 
Re: system trivia (groove/programming): DOS 
prompt/etc and choppy sound 
Here's a stab in the dark: 
Windows still doesn't know how to 
gracefully handle software 
interrupts? 
Jared 
On Friday 24 August 2001 18:15, Eric D. 
Pierce wrote:  system trivia 
question:   when using windows explorer, etc., dos prompt 
(e.g., sqlplus) and  running 
music CD, the sound get choppy 

Re: svrmgrl, sqlplus question ???

2001-08-28 Thread Ruth Gramolini

That was how I learned to log on when I first was using 8.0.x at Oracle
classes.  They said that internal was going away and that would be the way
to log on from now on.

Ruth
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:57 AM


 Charlie Mengler wrote:

 RANT
 When I'm logged onto the Unix system as user oracle
 using 9i, Oracle refuses to allow me to log into it by
 just using /. It insists that always include the two
 words  / as sysdba! Since it precludes me from
 logging into Oracle just using /, what is gained by
 forcing me to always specify as sysdba, too
 /RANT
 
 do you have OS authenticated accounts set up?  and do you have a prefix
 specified?  does 9i even do that?



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Re: Efficient way to monitor table growth...

2001-08-28 Thread tday6

Here's a script (for Oracle 8) that will show you exactly how much space a
given table uses, as opposed to how much space its extents have reserved.
It takes one parameter, the name of the table being looked at.  It can take
a long time to run so I'm not sure if that counts as efficient.  If you
want to see tablespace fragmentation, then run the mapper script down
below.

rem 
rem this code was inspired by Kevin Loney
rem 
set verify off;
set pages 24;
select COUNT(DISTINCT(SUBSTR(a.ROWID,1,16)))* b.value
Bytes_Used from 1 a,
v$parameter b where b.name = 'db_block_size' group by b.value
/

MAPPER

rem
rem file: mapper.sql
rem location: $HOME/sql
rem parameters: the tablespace name being mapped
rem
rem Sample invocation:
rem @mapper SYSTEM
rem
rem This script generates a mapping of the space usage
rem (free space vs used) in a tablespace. It graphically
rem shows segment and free space fragmentation.
rem
set pagesize 66 linesize 132 verify off
ttitle 'Map of Tablespace ' 1 right datevar skip 1
column substr(file_id,1,4) heading File|Id
column bytes format 999,999,999,999
column today noprint new_value datevar

SELECT
to_char(sysdate, 'MM/DD/YY') today,
'free space' owner, /*owner of free space*/
' ' object, /*blank object name*/
substr(file_id,1,4), /*file ID for the extent header*/
block_id, /*block ID for the extent header*/
blocks, /*length of the extent in blocks*/
bytes /*length of the extent in bytes*/
FROM sys.dba_free_space
WHERE tablespace_name = upper('1')
UNION
SELECT
to_char(sysdate, 'MM/DD/YY') today,
substr(owner,1,10), /*owner name (first 20 chars)*/
substr(segment_name,1,27), /*segment name (first 26 chars)*/
substr(file_id,1,4), /*file ID for extent header*/
block_id, /*block ID for block header*/
blocks, /*length of the extent in blocks*/
bytes /*length of the extent in bytes*/
FROM sys.dba_extents
WHERE tablespace_name = upper('1')
ORDER BY 4,5

/
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Analyze tables then look at dba_tables.num_rows. Doing it on a daily will
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 Hi DBA's

 Does an Oracle Stored Procedure or function exist that returns the row
count
 by table in each tablespace?
 I've observed that one of our production tablespaces is has only 8% free
 space. Perhaps it could be fragmented. I'll have to find a script that
can
 provide these statistics. I know I'll need to add another datafile to the
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 However, I'd like to find out which are the active tables in each
tablespace
 and track the row insert growth on a daily basis.

 Any ideas?

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Re:DBMS_JOB Help

2001-08-28 Thread dgoulet

Look in dba_jobs_running.

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Dear All,

Can anyone tell me how to find out currently running jobs initiated thru
DBMS_JOB package?

Thanks
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special caracter

2001-08-28 Thread Djaroud Salim

I want to insert a simple caracter in my database 'EUR'.
is there any to do that because i have this caracter ''.

any suggestion will be very appreciate!
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RE: ORA-10027 in ps/sql block

2001-08-28 Thread DBarbour


Check the loop exit.

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What does the code look like?

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I have a developer here who is trying to populate a cursor.  Every time he
runs his code he gets the above error stating that the buffer is too small.
We have tried explicitly setting the buffer to 1,000,000 bytes.  This is
FAR
greater than needed for the amount of data requested.  No matter what
buffer
size we set he still gets the overflow.

We have tried both of the following ideas from metalink

Any ideas?

Rodd Holman

Doc ID:   Note:1005230.6Content Type:
TEXT/PLAIN
26-AUG-1994
Type: PROBLEM   Last Revision Date:
13-JAN-1995
Status:   PUBLISHED


Problem Description:



Problem Explanation:



NEW PROBLEM

Solution: INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE BUFFER


Solution Description:
=

Increase the size of the buffer.  The size of the buffer must be an integer

between
2,000 and 1,000,000.

Solution Explanation:
=

Use one of the following two methods to increase the size of the buffer:

1.  At the SQL*PLUS or SQL*DBA prompt, type
SET SERVEROUTPUT ON SIZE n
where n is an integer between 2,000 and 1,000,000.

Example: To increase the buffer size to 10,000 type
SET SERVEROUTPUT ON SIZE 1

2. Inside the PL/SQL block type
   DBMS_OUTPUT.ENABLE(n)
   where n is an integer between 2,000 and 1,000,000.

   See Appendix A of the Oracle7 Server Application Developer's Guide for
   an explanation of the ENABLE command.
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OT: Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Joe Testa

Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who
you are. :)

and the whole concept of burning CDs is even way OT for me(who usually
starts an OT thread).

the concept was not making archival copies for yourself but the thread
had gone to, I have the crack for that software if you want it, that
is the illegal part.

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Re: FROM SRINIVAS -HELP

2001-08-28 Thread Jared Still


How about giving 'sample' a try?

http://oradoc.photo.net/ora817/DOC/server.817/a85397/state21b.htm#2065954

Jared

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 srinivas
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Re:Preventing logins from applications

2001-08-28 Thread dgoulet

Been there, tried that, failed miserably.  Without the support of upper
management and a strong software policy your sunk.  About the only thing you can
do is set up a non default role that the application activates on startup.  But
of course if your application is a purchased one, like PeopleSoft, that is just
about impossible.

Dick Goulet

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Hi Gurus

Has anyone ever had to prevent users from accessing the Database from other
applications other than those sanctioned by the company.
ie prevent users accessing the database using Microsoft's Access and yet
still be able to access via the company application which also uses ODBC.
OR preventing users accessing the DB via sqlplus but still through the app.

I would appreciate any knowledge that can be shared on this topic.
Many Thanks
Denham
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DBMS_JOB Help

2001-08-28 Thread Rangachari Sundar

Dear All,

Can anyone tell me how to find out currently running jobs initiated thru
DBMS_JOB package?

Thanks
Sundar

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Oracle Applications patches

2001-08-28 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I did a quick search in Metalink for Oracle Applications patches... and
Metalink returned 500 items!

Are there patches that are more critical than others?

I have a copy of Oracle Applications for NT, I just want to learn to install
it, configure, and play with it a little.

(500!  Unbelievable).

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RE: RE: Permanent Tablespace for sorting.

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence

When it is perm, you need to recovery it like a normal tablespace if moving
it or recovering, unless you offline it or rebuild the control file, with a
temporary tablespace it is just not part of the database.  It is a bit
simplier, although you can get around it.  Although both work perfectly
fine, it is syntaxtic sugar as I would say to just set it as temporary
(tempfile) and not have to worry about it period.

As for putting objects into it, agreed, you can avoid it, but with a
temporary tablespace you do not need to worry about it at all.  This is a
minor problem, but is something to note.

As for ST enqueue, perhaps you do not have problems with the ST enqueue, but
there are many cases where perm tablespace for sorting causes ST enqueue
contention, most notably when doing parallel segment creation.  It is well
documented that perm temporary tablespaces cause more contention on the ST
enqueue.  When you have a perm temporary tablespace, for every extent
created you need to hold the ST enqueue exclusively.  This WILL cause ST
enqueue contention, it is very possible you are not suffering from large
waits due to this.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Chris,

I've always used a permanent tablespace for temp and have not had the
problems you state.  But it does take some consistency to maintain.

1- we never allow anyone a quota on temp or even allow anyone to have that
as their default.  Come to think of it only sys has system as it's default
tablespace.  We also do not allow 'unlimited tablespace' even to purchased
apps.
2- The ST enqueue has not been a problem, actually have 0 contention there
even in the data warehouse.
3- we don't back it up.  Have had one get trashed, along with the disk
drive. 
Did an offline drop and rebuilt it elsewhere.

Dick Goulet

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Date:   8/28/2001 5:50 AM

No, it is generally better practice to use temporary tablespace for the
following reasons.
 
1.  You will not accidentently store objects in it.
2.  Reduced contention for the ST enqueue
3. Reduce backup and recovery time
 
Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

Christopher R. Spence 
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Fax:(707) 885-2275 

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Oracle recommends creation of separate temporary tablespace for sort
operations.  
Is there any advantage in using a permanent tablespace instead of a
temporary for sort operations? 

rgds 
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RE: Change parameter without restart db

2001-08-28 Thread Kevin Lange

Also look in the table v$parameter.

There is a collumn called ISSES_MODIFYABLE.   The name stands for Is Session
Modifiable.  i.e. Can you change the parameter on the fly in the session.
If this is true, then a  bounce is not required.

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Depends on the parameter.  Check out 'alter system' and 'alter database'
also a
look through the reference manual for your version will have a list of
parameters and if their dynamic (you can change them without a restart) or
static (meaning you'll have to bounce the database).

Dick Goulet

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Hi all,

I have a stupid question for all of you.

To change our Oracle parameters can we modify our parameter table to avoid
downtime (restart DB).


Thank you

Sinardy

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RE: Oracle Applications patches

2001-08-28 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Never mind, I discovered the maintenance updates...

I have a way to go with this, can you tell?

: )

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-Original Message-
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Sent:   Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:30 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:Oracle Applications patches
Importance: Low

I did a quick search in Metalink for Oracle Applications patches...
and Metalink returned 500 items!

Are there patches that are more critical than others?

I have a copy of Oracle Applications for NT, I just want to learn to
install it, configure, and play with it a little.

(500!  Unbelievable).

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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OT: Why you want to be a DBA and other stories

2001-08-28 Thread dvmrgn

Hi All,
Meanderings on various topics brought on by the fact 
that I am just about to start a 3 month leave of absence for my
honeymoon. Kids are grown, mortgage is paid, time for a HOLIDAY!!!

Any members of the list who reside in Portugal and would be
interested in getting together please email me offline. 
We are planning on starting in the North at 
Santiago de Compostenala and wandering south to the Algarve. 
If it is cold and rainy we will move south quicker :)

As we will be visiting family in England first, anyone in 
the Sheffield, Hull, down through Leiscester and Luton 
areas please feel free to contact me. We will be in the UK
from Sept 8 through the 14 

Linux and Oracle
If you are going to run a serious Linux box
learn to how to compile kernels and what the library 
dependencies are. The distribution is irrelevant. The kernel
and libraries are what is important. My current production
box was originally a Slackware 1.2.13 distro, I doubt any
of it is left. Kernel 2.2.9 and I don't remember what I had
to do for the libraries is what is currently on the server. 
My webservers are 2.2.19 and nicely 
stable but my dbserver had it's first crash in over 200 days
recently so I am not touching it. Oracle 8.0.5 pre production.
(Over 200 days, I wonder if it is related to the SUN 248 day bug)

  
PDA's
Having just purchased a Compaq IPAQ to keep in touch 
I am extremely impressed. It is basically equivalent to the
486 DX33 I had on my desk 5 - 6 years ago. It is capable of being my
main computer. I just wish they would break this stupid dependency
on syncing with a desktop. I would load Linux on it but I just
don't have the time right now. The expansion pack allows the use of 
most PCMCIA and Compact Flash cards. 

Vaccines
I am sure glad that the dispute over vaccination did not exist 
when we were raising our litltle ones. Having seen a child with whooping 
cough, and having worked with autistic kids (whooping cough vaccine
is known to cause autism in a very small percentage of cases) I don't
know which is worse. I think the only rational way is to look at the
odds,
in most cases the safest course of action is to get vaccinated 

HTML
I do not receive any posting with HTML in it. This removes 
70% of the boring RTFM type questions. The downside is I do not get
to see Lisa's and Matt's questions and answers anymore Sigh 
Do I have to beg??  I notice the prolific
off topic posters rarely include HTML :) Along the same lines is 
editing replies to shorten the original postings would be another 
courteous action many could take . Again the HTML stripper I use 
often works since at least one of the quoted people use HTML. 

Having been on the list for a number of years now, I must say that 
as social meeting place it ihas become much better, as a technical
resource 
it is slightly worse, and I still read it as avidly as ever.

My thanks to Jared and Bruce

TTFN

Dave

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OT:Cannibal Programmers....

2001-08-28 Thread dgoulet

Jared,

Sorry I just could not keep this to myself.

Dick Goulet


--
Five cannibals get appointed as programmers in an IT company.
During the welcoming ceremony the boss says: You're all part of our team
now. You can earn good money here, and you can go to the company canteen for
something to eat.  So don't trouble the other employees.

The cannibals promise leave the other employees unharmed.
Four weeks later the boss returns and says: You're all working very hard,
and I'm very satisfied with all of you. One of our cleaners has disappeared
however.  Do any of you know what happened to her?

The cannibals disavow all knowledge of the missing cleaner.
After the boss has left, the leader of the cannibals says to the others:
Which of you idiots ate the cleaner?
A hand rises hesitantly, to which the leader of the cannibals says:
You fool! For four weeks we've been eating Team Leaders, Managers, and
Project Managers so no-one would notice anything, and you have to go and eat
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Intermedia question

2001-08-28 Thread Mujeeb Chowdhry

Hi,

Does anyone know the maximum character length for index name for intermedia index. I'm 
trying to create intermedia index with the index name length of 24 characters, my 
index name is title_creators_ind_index and getting drg-11439 index name length 
exceeds maximum of 25 characters error. I'm using Oracle 8.1.6 on Sun Solaris 2.7 
Thanks 

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Re: Windows application - Linux server

2001-08-28 Thread Jan Pruner

Ad 1.
If you need only forms to read your data and business logic is simple:
- I think that the best way is create packages with business logic in PL/SQL 
on server and put output on a web server to view it using standard web 
browser. You haven't to install any stuff on client workstation (program, 
net8 or ODBC, configuration ...)

If your users need to analyze data extracted from db:
- Forgott VB - you cannot handle data well and you will die from upgrading 
every workstation during installation of your soft.
- If you will use VC++ - perfect GUI is a pain, use some RAD tool like 
Borland builder or any other.

Ad 2.
Use Net8 and objects of your development framework.

What's about Java?

Jan Pruner

Dne út 28. srpen 2001 12:30 jste napsal(a):
 Hi all,
   I would like to develop a windows (Windows 98)application, which will
 have to connect to an oracle database (8.1.6) running on a Linux machine (
 RH 7.0 ). Can somebody please advice me as to which of the following can be
 chosen:

 1). Which language or GUI interface would be efficient?
  VB, VC++ or is there something else ?
 2). Which is the best way to connect to the database?
  ODBC, OLEDB , Activex Data Objects  or
  anything other than these ?
  And also how about using pro_c++?

  This is the first time I am trying to develop an application for
 Windows, so I donot have any idea about these technologies, but I would
 like to choose the best one before I start to learn about it. Can someone
 please help me or guide me to some resource which will provide this
 information? I don't require information about the technologies themselves,
 just tell me which the best one is and I will manage to learn it myself.
 Thanks for any help.

 PS: Even, if you have experience working with only one of the technologies,
 please mail back with the experiences you had with it. In this way we can
 compare all the individual experiences and will be able to make out
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RE: OT: Magazines for Oracle unix performance

2001-08-28 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Wall Street Journal

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 Hello all,
 
 Any recos. for this? I am subscribed to Oracle Mag. but any 
 others out there, which I can make use of on a day to day basis!
 
 rgds,
 
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 the best one for both of them. Please while recommending 
 explain what you liked about the magazines, like eg you like 
 magazine x because it carries performance issues and they are 
 explined in detail month after month, or magazine y because 
 it is trnedy and explains technology features soming in the 
 market for unix or oracle. 
 
 This is just an example, but feel free to comment, why you 
 recommend what you are recommending. 
 
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Re: Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Ruth Gramolini

Thanks Joe, I just deleted these but my email server doesn't need the
traffic. Ruth
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 Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

 Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who
 you are. :)

 and the whole concept of burning CDs is even way OT for me(who usually
 starts an OT thread).

 the concept was not making archival copies for yourself but the thread
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RE: tab ascii value

2001-08-28 Thread DBarbour


John,

Here's a message I got from Dennis Heisler off this list last week.  The
method works quite well:

David,

There are a number of different ways to do it.  One method I use is to
define the codes in the package header
  ie:   FONT_COURIER10  varchar2(15) := chr(27) || '(s0p10h12vsb3T'

Then, in the package body, when I want to print a special code I either
use utl_file.put() or utl_file.put_line(FONT_COURIER10 || 'Text Goes
Here').


Dennis

Good Luck.

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Srinivas,
I have managed the following PL/SQL but I have not worked out how to show
the tab and CR return characters etc. Perhaps someone else can help

John
SCRIPT start xx
declare
V_chr   varchar2(3);
ctr number;
begin
for ctr in  1..255 loop
select chr(ctr) into V_chr from dual;
--  dbms_output.put_line(V_chr);
dbms_output.put_line('Chr value '||ctr||' = '||V_chr||' ');
end loop;
end;
SCRIPT ends 
Chr value 1 =
Chr value 2 =
Chr value 3 =
Chr value 4 =
Chr value 5 =
Chr value 6 =
Chr value 7 =
Chr value 8 =
Chr value 9 =
Chr value 10 =

Chr value 11 =

Chr value 12 =

Chr value 13 =
Chr value 14 =
Chr value 15 =
Chr value 16 =
Chr value 17 =
Chr value 18 =
Chr value 19 =
Chr value 20 =
Chr value 21 =
Chr value 22 =
Chr value 23 =
Chr value 24 =
Chr value 25 =
Chr value 26 =
Chr value 27 =
hr value 28 =
Chr value 29 =
Chr value 30 =
Chr value 31 =
Chr value 32 =
Chr value 33 = !
Chr value 34 = 
Chr value 35 = #
Chr value 36 = $
Chr value 37 = %
Chr value 38 = 
Chr value 39 = '
Chr value 40 = (
Chr value 41 = )
Chr value 42 = *
Chr value 43 = +
Chr value 44 = ,
Chr value 45 = -
Chr value 46 = .
Chr value 47 = /
Chr value 48 = 0
Chr value 49 = 1
Chr value 50 = 2
Chr value 51 = 3
Chr value 52 = 4
Chr value 53 = 5
Chr value 54 = 6
Chr value 55 = 7
Chr value 56 = 8
Chr value 57 = 9
Chr value 58 = :
Chr value 59 = ;
Chr value 60 = 
Chr value 61 = =
Chr value 62 = 
Chr value 63 = ?
Chr value 64 = @
Chr value 65 = A
Chr value 66 = B
Chr value 67 = C
Chr value 68 = D
Chr value 69 = E
Chr value 70 = F
Chr value 71 = G
Chr value 72 = H
Chr value 73 = I
Chr value 74 = J
Chr value 75 = K
Chr value 76 = L
Chr value 77 = M
Chr value 78 = N
Chr value 79 = O
Chr value 80 = P
Chr value 81 = Q
Chr value 82 = R
Chr value 83 = S
Chr value 84 = T
Chr value 85 = U
Chr value 86 = V
Chr value 87 = W
Chr value 88 = X
Chr value 89 = Y
Chr value 90 = Z
Chr value 91 = [
Chr value 92 = \
Chr value 93 = ]
Chr value 94 = ^
Chr value 95 = _
Chr value 96 = `
Chr value 97 = a
Chr value 98 = b
Chr value 99 = c
Chr value 100 = d
Chr value 101 = e
Chr value 102 = f
Chr value 103 = g
Chr value 104 = h
Chr value 105 = i
Chr value 106 = j
Chr value 107 = k
Chr value 108 = l
Chr value 109 = m
Chr value 110 = n
Chr value 111 = o
Chr value 112 = p
Chr value 113 = q
Chr value 114 = r
Chr value 115 = s
Chr value 116 = t
Chr value 117 = u
Chr value 118 = v
Chr value 119 = w
Chr value 120 = x
Chr value 121 = y
Chr value 122 = z
Chr value 123 = {
Chr value 124 = |
Chr value 125 = }
Chr value 126 = ~
Chr value 127 =
Chr value 128 = ?
Chr value 129 = ?
Chr value 130 = ?
Chr value 131 = ?
Chr value 132 = ?
Chr value 133 = ?
Chr value 134 = ?
Chr value 135 = ?
Chr value 136 = ?
Chr value 137 = ?
Chr value 138 = ?
Chr value 139 = ?
Chr value 140 = ?
Chr value 141 = ?
Chr value 142 = ?
Chr value 143 = ?
Chr value 144 

RE: Efficient way to monitor table growth...

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence

I have a script I wrote a while ago that may be of some use.  If you goto:
http://www.vampired.net/scripts/php/tablespace.php

And look at FreeSpace by Tablespace script it is very useful.

I will return:

Tablespace Name
Total Mb
Free Mb
Used Mb
Percentage Free
Total Objects

For all your tablespaces, it executes within a second or two, it is
generally very quick.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Here's a script (for Oracle 8) that will show you exactly how much space a
given table uses, as opposed to how much space its extents have reserved. It
takes one parameter, the name of the table being looked at.  It can take a
long time to run so I'm not sure if that counts as efficient.  If you want
to see tablespace fragmentation, then run the mapper script down below.

rem 
rem this code was inspired by Kevin Loney
rem 
set verify off;
set pages 24;
select COUNT(DISTINCT(SUBSTR(a.ROWID,1,16)))* b.value Bytes_Used from 1 a,
v$parameter b where b.name = 'db_block_size' group by b.value /

MAPPER

rem
rem file: mapper.sql
rem location: $HOME/sql
rem parameters: the tablespace name being mapped
rem
rem Sample invocation:
rem @mapper SYSTEM
rem
rem This script generates a mapping of the space usage
rem (free space vs used) in a tablespace. It graphically
rem shows segment and free space fragmentation.
rem
set pagesize 66 linesize 132 verify off
ttitle 'Map of Tablespace ' 1 right datevar skip 1
column substr(file_id,1,4) heading File|Id
column bytes format 999,999,999,999
column today noprint new_value datevar

SELECT
to_char(sysdate, 'MM/DD/YY') today,
'free space' owner, /*owner of free space*/
' ' object, /*blank object name*/
substr(file_id,1,4), /*file ID for the extent header*/ block_id, /*block ID
for the extent header*/ blocks, /*length of the extent in blocks*/ bytes
/*length of the extent in bytes*/ FROM sys.dba_free_space WHERE
tablespace_name = upper('1') UNION SELECT to_char(sysdate, 'MM/DD/YY')
today, substr(owner,1,10), /*owner name (first 20 chars)*/
substr(segment_name,1,27), /*segment name (first 26 chars)*/
substr(file_id,1,4), /*file ID for extent header*/ block_id, /*block ID for
block header*/ blocks, /*length of the extent in blocks*/ bytes /*length of
the extent in bytes*/ FROM sys.dba_extents WHERE tablespace_name =
upper('1') ORDER BY 4,5

/
undefine 1



 

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Analyze tables then look at dba_tables.num_rows. Doing it on a daily will
give you what you want.

HTH,
Michael

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 Hi DBA's

 Does an Oracle Stored Procedure or function exist that returns the row
count
 by table in each tablespace?
 I've observed that one of our production tablespaces is has only 8% 
 free space. Perhaps it could be fragmented. I'll have to find a script 
 that
can
 provide these statistics. I know I'll need to add another datafile to 
 the tablespace soon. However, I'd like to find out which are the 
 active tables in each
tablespace
 and track the row insert growth on a daily basis.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks for your help.

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RE: special caracter

2001-08-28 Thread Gogala, Mladen

The following select should give you an idea.

select 'Oracle '||chr(10)||' List' from dual;

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OT: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence

I believe this is way off topic and not for this list as well, but...

the concept was not making archival copies for yourself but the thread had
gone to, I have the crack for that software if you want it, that is the
illegal part.

The previous is not actually illegal, cracks have never been
illegal, especially when it comes to cds, as you need to have the cd to
actually crack it.  Intent to distribute to parties who do not own legal
licenses is illegal.  Since cracks, like guns are not always used in illegal
ways, are perfectly legal.  But then again, they say Guns don't kill
people, people do.


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when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who you
are. :)

and the whole concept of burning CDs is even way OT for me(who usually
starts an OT thread).

the concept was not making archival copies for yourself but the thread had
gone to, I have the crack for that software if you want it, that is the
illegal part.

joe

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Re: Preventing logins from applications

2001-08-28 Thread Charlie Mengler

This can be accomplished by creating a login trigger that checks
the PROGRAM name within V$SESSION. You can create a table that
contains whitelisted program names  simply terminate any session
that uses a program that does not exist within your authorized
list of programs.

Denham Eva wrote:
 
 Hi Gurus
 
 Has anyone ever had to prevent users from accessing the Database from other
 applications other than those sanctioned by the company.
 ie prevent users accessing the database using Microsoft's Access and yet
 still be able to access via the company application which also uses ODBC.
 OR preventing users accessing the DB via sqlplus but still through the app.
 
 I would appreciate any knowledge that can be shared on this topic.
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Migration of simple snapshots

2001-08-28 Thread Mike J Kurth

I use simple snapshots, and have some questions regarding migration from
7.3.4.5
to 8.1.6.2:
1) Can a 8.1.6.2 master site co-exist with a 7.3.4.5 snapshot site?
2) After I migrate master site I need to drop triggers on the mlogs, because
8I does not use database triggers to populate the mlogs?
3) Do I need to do a complete refresh of each snapshot after the master
   migration? Any way around this?
4) Do I need to convert my rowid snapshots to primary key snapshots?
5) Any other issues I need to be aware of?

Thanks


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RE: special caracter

2001-08-28 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: special caracter





See Metalink Note 137127.1 Character sets, code pages, fonts and the NLS_LANG value
Essentiall all Oracle V8 is Euro compliant but you have to use the NLS_LANG settings more


John 


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I want to insert a simple caracter in my database 'EUR'.
is there any to do that because i have this caracter ''.


any suggestion will be very appreciate!
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priviledge question

2001-08-28 Thread Seema Singh

Hi Gurus
When a user runs discovers there is one option to share reports.When user 
choose this option it shows all schema in the instance.i want only to see 
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RE: Oracle Applications patches

2001-08-28 Thread Shreter, Hilary

Dear Patrice, 

The megapatches are worth installing, since they fix lots of bugs. 
There is a pulldown list in the patch getter screen that lets you ask for
all megapatches or similar.

Also check the release notes to see if there are any interoperability
patches.
(Interops let this version of Apps work with that version of Server, etc.
all down the technology stack UGGG!)

Have you dicided which products to install?  That will tighten up the list!
US Payroll has a lot of patches as the legislatures of the 50 states and
numerous municipalities create scope creep (however it keeps people employed
to apply the resulting patches).

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I did a quick search in Metalink for Oracle Applications patches... and
Metalink returned 500 items!

Are there patches that are more critical than others?

I have a copy of Oracle Applications for NT, I just want to learn to install
it, configure, and play with it a little.

(500!  Unbelievable).

Regards,
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RE: one file being relinked in wrong ORACLE_HOME

2001-08-28 Thread Guy Hammond

As far as I know, this should be fine, if they're in two different
ORACLE_HOMEs, owned by two different users, etc, have their listeners
running on different ports, etc, there no reason for one ORACLE_HOME to
even be aware of the other (i.e. it wouldn't even need read permission
on its directory). You would just need to ensure that the two were fully
segregated. 

Of course, I could be wrong, the closest I've come to this would be
8.1.5 and 8.1.6 on the same machine, but Unix theory suggests that it is
so.

g



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i didnt think you could have 2 oracle homes with that low of a verison
difference, i thought the lowest was x.x.x anything below that couldnt
have different oracle homes, am i wrong here?

joe
Doug C wrote:
 
 We have 2 Oracle Homes, one of which was upgraded to 8.1.7.1 on Jul
25th. The
 other Oracle Home is just vanilla 8.1.7. We did a relink all on the
8.1.7 last
 night which completed successfully. There are no problems being
reported by
 anybody. We checked the entire environment before the relink and found
all
 settings properly referring to this 8.1.7 home. One file however,
libagtsh.a,
 which exists in the 8.1.7.1 home/lib directory, now shows that it is
timestamped
 at the time of this relink. Any ideas? Thanks.
 
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I 
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that
this is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with 
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask.
If you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and
burning CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. Here,
I want to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Re: Burning game CD's
 
 
 Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things 
 like this, we'lll
 try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
 KK
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  You are doing several things wrong:
  a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
  b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
  Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
  Have a nice day.
 
   -Original Message-
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   Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
  
  
   Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first
   every CDROM burner.  I
   couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of
   Empires, Return
   Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
   games just hung
   when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
   of my CD's or am I
   doing something wrong?
  
   Tom
  
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OT: HP-UX

2001-08-28 Thread Stuart Graham



Hi all, this is slightly off topic, but I am trying 
to install 9i database on an HP-UX 11.00 box.

I have v.v.v.v. little experience on HP-UX. This is 
only a test box, but going through ORACLE's install guide, it tells me I need to 
install various HP-UX patches using swinstall.

Many of the patches I try to install are erroring 
out...

I run the command 

# swinstall -x autoreboot=true -x 
patch_match_target=true 
\ 

 -s 
/tmp/PHCO_17058.depot

and get the following output:

=== 08/28/01 16:14:35 BST BEGIN 
swinstall SESSION 
(non-interactive)
* Session started for user 
"root@ham1". 

* Beginning 
Selection 

* Target connection succeeded for 
"ham1:/". 

NOTE: The patch match operation 
failed to find patches for targetsoftware on "ham1" which passed the 
filter. 

NOTE: Cannot continue the 
"swinstall" 
task. 

=== 08/28/01 16:14:50 BST END 
swinstall SESSION 
(non-interactive)

Does this mean I don't need these patches??

TIA,

Stuart 



RE: OT : kernel using 75% of CPU

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence
Title: Message



Also 
noticed a fairly high load average, it appears you have a lot of processes 
trying to get on the cpu, for a very long time, over the last 15 minutes you 
have had 15 load average which is high.




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  -Original Message-From: Jerry C 
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  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: OT : 
  kernel using 75% of CPU
  Hi there,
  
  I have a Sun e4500, running Solaris 2.7 
  and Oracle8.1.7.1.0. Everything looks normal from a database 
  perspective, but when I run "top" it show the kernel being very 
  hog-like:
  
  load averages: 14.38, 15.18, 
  15.18 
  07:16:21126 processes: 118 sleeping, 4 running, 4 on cpuCPU 
  states: 0.6% idle, 26.6% user, 72.8% kernel, 0.0% iowait, 
  0.0% swapMemory: 4096M real, 63M free, 216M swap in use, 5310M swap 
  free
  
   PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE 
  SIZE RES STATE TIME CPU 
  COMMAND2286 oracle 1 
  0 0 1844M 1814M run 9:44 13.90% 
  oracle11068 oracle 1 
  0 0 2056K 1536K cpu0 0:02 1.53% 
  top11333 oracle 1 0 
  0 1150M 1124M cpu1 0:01 1.39% oracle5944 
  oracle 1 40 0 1820M 1789M 
  sleep 14:40 1.36% oracle4797 
  root 1 50 0 2112K 
  1248K sleep 6:01 1.36% top11346 
  oracle 1 0 0 
  110M 92M cpu0 0:01 1.26% oracle4 
  oracle 1 0 0 1009M 
  984M cpu1 0:00 0.66% oracle11157 
  oracle 1 0 0 1009M 
  984M run 0:00 0.63% oracle11368 
  oracle 1 33 0 1794M 1765M 
  sleep 0:00 0.29% oracle19558 
  oracle 1 60 0 1797M 1751M 
  sleep 78:28 0.28% oracle19554 oracle 
  1 60 0 1794M 1751M sleep 38:05 0.20% 
  oracle11366 oracle 1 55 0 
  1793M 1763M sleep 0:00 0.19% oracle11292 
  oracle 1 26 2 2008K 1424K 
  run 0:00 0.19% dsql
  
  Any ideas on what I, as a lowly DBA, 
  would be able to check? It's a bit out of my area and I'm 
  stumped...
  
  
  Thanks!
  
  Jerry


RE: Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

True, my apologies, didn't even think about.  I'll be sure to keep that sort
of behavior off of the list from now on.  Once again, sorry about that,
sometimes I am just not thinking.
KK

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Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who
you are. :)

and the whole concept of burning CDs is even way OT for me(who usually
starts an OT thread).

the concept was not making archival copies for yourself but the thread
had gone to, I have the crack for that software if you want it, that
is the illegal part.

joe

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RE: Oracle Applications patches

2001-08-28 Thread Gary Weber

Patrice,

Welcome to the wonderful and exciting world of Apps patches! Are some more
critical than others? Yes, but it largely depends on the extent you're using
the system. Generally, I don't bother with minor patches unless a specific
bug is stumbled upon. If you roll with the mega patches, you're pretty much
covered. Btw, the separate application modules (AR, GL, etc) don't have to
be at the same patch level - this makes for even more fun. I'm speaking from
Apps 11.0 experience, so YMMV.

Gary Weber
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Patrice J
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:37 AM
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I did a quick search in Metalink for Oracle Applications patches... and
Metalink returned 500 items!

Are there patches that are more critical than others?

I have a copy of Oracle Applications for NT, I just want to learn to install
it, configure, and play with it a little.

(500!  Unbelievable).

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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Re: OT - DB2 for OS/2

2001-08-28 Thread Jan Pruner

Back to DB/2
http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO63350_NLTAM%2C00.html

JP

Dne út 28. srpen 2001 17:46 jste napsal(a):
 If it ain't broke...

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 One friend of mine working for Siemens is still programming DOS stuff
 'cause
 they use MSDOS as OS for chip testing machines (life test for car chips
 to
 use in VW, BMW ...).

 Jan Pruner

 Dne po 27. srpen 2001 20:28 jste napsal(a):
  I don't know.
 
  I went to the cinema last week (? A couple of weeks ago?) and one of

 the

  ticket machines had a C:\ prompt on its screen.
 
  Presumably that thing was running DOS...
 
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Oracle block corruption - source cause detection ?

2001-08-28 Thread Mohammed . Ahsanuddin

Hi,

We recently had some oracle block corruptions on a couple of databases,
while testing our move to EMC storage..Although it may not be directly
related to the EMC storage, there is debate going on as to what might be the
actual cause of corruption. There is no disk or hardware failure, but there
was a power outage and the server has to be rebooted..

Is it possible to find out the root cause of the oracle block corruption?
Either through Oracle or OS?

Thanks in advance..

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RE: Oracle Applications patches

2001-08-28 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Oracle Applications patches





I presume that is 500 per module and there must be about 30 modules by now, with perhaps an average of 7 or 8 modules on each installation

The normal method is to install a full patchset which is a collection of a number of patches (i.e GL Patchset J etc). 
At sites where I have worked adding a patch is usually the last resort and it has to be a significant problem before the patch is applied. A new patchset install normally involves a lot of testing if there has been any form of customisation of the application.

Adpatch will become your best friend :)


John


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I did a quick search in Metalink for Oracle Applications patches... and
Metalink returned 500 items!


Are there patches that are more critical than others?


I have a copy of Oracle Applications for NT, I just want to learn to install
it, configure, and play with it a little.


(500! Unbelievable).


Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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Oracle 8.1.7 on SuSe Linux

2001-08-28 Thread mohammed bhatti

Thought I'd share this piece of info.  Did the install
thing for Oracle 8.1.7 on SuSe 7.2 (256 MB Ram, 512 MB
swap).

No pathces applied to anything.  First time that I
tried to install got error:

SIGSEGV received at bfffdbc8 in
/opt/oracle/inst/Disk1/stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux/lib/linux/native_threads/libjava.so.
Processing terminated 

Went through Metalink.  Got a piece of info saying:

unset LANG

Tried this, install went smooth as silk.

Metalink Forum: 

hth

mkb

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence

Well we know who wears the pants in this relationship.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I 
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that this
is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with 
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask. If
you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and burning
CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. Here, I want
to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: Burning game CD's
 
 
 Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things
 like this, we'lll
 try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
 KK
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  Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
  Have a nice day.
 
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   Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every 
   CDROM burner.  I couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game 
   CD's (Age of Empires, Return
   Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
   games just hung
   when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
   of my CD's or am I
   doing something wrong?
  
   Tom
  
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RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...

2001-08-28 Thread Rachel Carmichael


not usually no. you expect Oracle Documentation to be completely accurate? 
What planet are you from?  :)



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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:26:14 -0800

Ding, ding.  Give that pretty young lady a prize.  I cpio'ed them last 
night
with no problems.  I can't believe they didn't compress them.  They end 
with
.gz and they tell you to uncompress them.  Does Oracle's left hand talk to
the right hand?

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yeah, and they said the same thing about the solaris ones... and you didn't
have to unzip them either


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 Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to
 use
 gunzip to unzip them.
 
 Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult...
 
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 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PM
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 I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be
 unzipped.
 
 
 
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  Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from
  technet.oracle.com.  I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over,
 but
  gunzip is not recognizing the files.  I switched back to Windoze and
 using
  Winzip it doesnt like the files either.  So I redownloaded just the
 smaller
  third file and neither will uncompress the file.  Am I missing 
something
  here?
  
  I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to
 work,
  so I have been downloading the files using Windoze.  Could that be the
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  TIA!!
  
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Rachel Carmichael


Mladen,

Thank you :)

Rachel

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:52:09 -0800

Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that
this is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask.
If you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and
burning CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. 
Here,
I want to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



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  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: Re: Burning game CD's
 
 
  Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things
  like this, we'lll
  try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
  KK
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  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:16 PM
 
 
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   a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
   b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
   Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
   Have a nice day.
  
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Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
   
   
Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first
every CDROM burner.  I
couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game CD's (Age of
Empires, Return
Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
games just hung
when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
of my CD's or am I
doing something wrong?
   
Tom
   
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Re: FROM SRINIVAS -HELP

2001-08-28 Thread Srinivas_Madala


Thanking U a lot .
I will try on it.
Thanks
srinivas

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence

Wow, is it Friday yet?

We should have a top ten of best off topic posts.
Isn't the Internet great?

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Thanks for keeping this this about oracle and only about oracle Mladen.
Thanks for contributing such gems as:

Gogala, Mladen, 8/17:
90MHZ Pentium which could do 3 arithmetic operations with the numbers, 
i.e. everything short of dividing two numbers correctly is still my
favorite.

Gogala, Mladen, 8/17:
OK, I stand corrected. Windows crashes just half of the time and if it
wasn't for Windows, I'd have to explain how to actually use a 
computer to a far too big lot of ignorant people. It is also a marvelous, 
although somewhat overpriced alternative for the Sony's PS2. Hopefully, the
statement above will mitigate your feelings toward 
us, the  poor Unix geeks that use unix to provide for our everyday's 
bread and Dom Perignon.

Gogala, Mladen, 8/16:
Where in the world did you come across 100MHZ Pentium? Natural history
museum,next to the T-Rex skeleton?

Gogala, Mladen, 8/10:
Rachel, William is referring to an old miracle of advertising prowess which
was unleashed onto US by the Swedish company Electrolux which sells vacuum
cleaners, among other things . To make the long story short, Swedes 
wanted to save the money needed for the translator, so they entrusted the
job of finding a catch phrase for selling their precious vacuum cleaners on
the US 
market to a guy whose experience with the English language consisted mainly
of watching two episodes of I love Lucy on TV. He came up with the phrase
Nothing sucks like Electrolux, which for some reason beyond comprehension 
failed to boost sales but it certainly did make it to the marketing history
books. I wonder if the miraculous marketeer was promoted after making the
marketing history?

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3:
AFAIK, the phrase the whole 9 yards precedes WWII and comes from WWI.
Allegedly, it was 
the size of the ammo belt for the maxim machine gun. The whole 9 yards meant
to fire it all. As for the abbreviations, my favorite was (and still is)
RTFM (Read The Fine Manual)

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3
You mean that they didn't have PCs, internet, MS Windows and  Night Show
with Ed Sullivan back there at Alamo?  What in the world has prompted Santa
Anna 
to  attack, then? 

Gogala, Mladen, 8/3
Have Bullwinkle,Davy Crockett, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever been in the
same movie together? What about Rocky, he and Bullwinkle used to be
inseparable. I didn't know that Bullwinkle was moonlighting with Danny Kaye
and Skelton?

and many others.


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Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I 
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that this
is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with 
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask. If
you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and burning
CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. Here, I want
to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



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 From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: Burning game CD's
 
 
 Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things
 like this, we'lll
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 KK
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:16 PM
 
 
  You are doing several things wrong:
  a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
  b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
  Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
  Have a nice day.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Terrian, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
  
  
   Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every 
   CDROM burner.  I couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game 
   CD's (Age of Empires, Return
   Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
   games just hung
   when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
   of my CD's or am I
   doing something wrong?
  
   Tom
  
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RE: OT: Magazines for Oracle unix performance

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence

4-Wheeling

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

Christopher R. Spence 
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Wall Street Journal

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 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 4:01 AM
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 Subject: Fwd: OT: Magazines for Oracle  unix performance
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 Any recos. for this? I am subscribed to Oracle Mag. but any
 others out there, which I can make use of on a day to day basis!
 
 rgds,
 
 raja
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 I want to subscribe to some top magazines for oracle  unix
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 the best one for both of them. Please while recommending 
 explain what you liked about the magazines, like eg you like 
 magazine x because it carries performance issues and they are 
 explined in detail month after month, or magazine y because 
 it is trnedy and explains technology features soming in the 
 market for unix or oracle. 
 
 This is just an example, but feel free to comment, why you
 recommend what you are recommending. 
 
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RE: OT : kernel using 75% of CPU

2001-08-28 Thread Christopher Spence
Title: Message



paging 
and swapping is the first thing that comes to mind, look at 
vmstat.

I 
think your question is completely on topic.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a 
mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and 
have their shoes."
Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax: (707) 885-2275 
Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863  

  
  -Original Message-From: Jerry C 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:20 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: OT : 
  kernel using 75% of CPU
  Hi there,
  
  I have a Sun e4500, running Solaris 2.7 
  and Oracle8.1.7.1.0. Everything looks normal from a database 
  perspective, but when I run "top" it show the kernel being very 
  hog-like:
  
  load averages: 14.38, 15.18, 
  15.18 
  07:16:21126 processes: 118 sleeping, 4 running, 4 on cpuCPU 
  states: 0.6% idle, 26.6% user, 72.8% kernel, 0.0% iowait, 
  0.0% swapMemory: 4096M real, 63M free, 216M swap in use, 5310M swap 
  free
  
   PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE 
  SIZE RES STATE TIME CPU 
  COMMAND2286 oracle 1 
  0 0 1844M 1814M run 9:44 13.90% 
  oracle11068 oracle 1 
  0 0 2056K 1536K cpu0 0:02 1.53% 
  top11333 oracle 1 0 
  0 1150M 1124M cpu1 0:01 1.39% oracle5944 
  oracle 1 40 0 1820M 1789M 
  sleep 14:40 1.36% oracle4797 
  root 1 50 0 2112K 
  1248K sleep 6:01 1.36% top11346 
  oracle 1 0 0 
  110M 92M cpu0 0:01 1.26% oracle4 
  oracle 1 0 0 1009M 
  984M cpu1 0:00 0.66% oracle11157 
  oracle 1 0 0 1009M 
  984M run 0:00 0.63% oracle11368 
  oracle 1 33 0 1794M 1765M 
  sleep 0:00 0.29% oracle19558 
  oracle 1 60 0 1797M 1751M 
  sleep 78:28 0.28% oracle19554 oracle 
  1 60 0 1794M 1751M sleep 38:05 0.20% 
  oracle11366 oracle 1 55 0 
  1793M 1763M sleep 0:00 0.19% oracle11292 
  oracle 1 26 2 2008K 1424K 
  run 0:00 0.19% dsql
  
  Any ideas on what I, as a lowly DBA, 
  would be able to check? It's a bit out of my area and I'm 
  stumped...
  
  
  Thanks!
  
  Jerry


RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Which relationship? Any foreign keys around here?

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Re:RE: Permanent Tablespace for sorting.

2001-08-28 Thread Connor McDonald

I suppose the response to this would be why bother?.
 temp tablespaces (especially tempfile ones) will have


- less impact on redo logs
- allows current ( or future) use of standby for
read-only
- no need for any offline drop etc

Cheers
Connor

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Chris,
 
 I've always used a permanent tablespace for temp
 and have not had the
 problems you state.  But it does take some
 consistency to maintain.
 
 1- we never allow anyone a quota on temp or even
 allow anyone to have that as
 their default.  Come to think of it only sys has
 system as it's default
 tablespace.  We also do not allow 'unlimited
 tablespace' even to purchased apps.
 2- The ST enqueue has not been a problem, actually
 have 0 contention there even
 in the data warehouse.
 3- we don't back it up.  Have had one get trashed,
 along with the disk drive. 
 Did an offline drop and rebuilt it elsewhere.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
 Reply
 Separator
 Author: Christopher Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   8/28/2001 5:50 AM
 
 No, it is generally better practice to use temporary
 tablespace for the
 following reasons.
  
 1.  You will not accidentently store objects in it.
 2.  Reduced contention for the ST enqueue
 3. Reduce backup and recovery time
  
 Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in
 their shoes, that way
 when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and
 have their shoes.
 
 Christopher R. Spence 
 Oracle DBA 
 Phone: (978) 322-5744 
 Fax:(707) 885-2275 
 
 Fuelspot 
 73 Princeton Street 
 North, Chelmsford 01863 
   
 
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 Oracle recommends creation of separate temporary
 tablespace for sort
 operations.  
 Is there any advantage in using a permanent
 tablespace instead of a
 temporary for sort operations? 
 
 rgds 
 amar 
 
 
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RE: tab ascii value

2001-08-28 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: tab ascii value





 -Original Message-
 From: Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 how to find out the ascii value of tab, new line
 
 for new line it is 10
 for tab it is 9
 
 but how to get from the following statement.
 
 select ascii(??) from dual;



I don't remember if this has been answered already, but read the documentation on the DUMP and CHR functions.


SQL select dump ('A') from dual ;


DUMP('A')

Typ=96 Len=1: 65


SQL select chr (65) from dual ;


C
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RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...

2001-08-28 Thread Connor McDonald

I could describe what Oracle does mostly with its
right hand... but maybe this list isn't the place to
do it. 

:-)

 --- Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 not usually no. you expect Oracle Documentation to
 be completely accurate? 
 What planet are you from?  :)
 
 
 
 From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring
 during uncompress...
 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:26:14 -0800
 
 Ding, ding.  Give that pretty young lady a prize. 
 I cpio'ed them last 
 night
 with no problems.  I can't believe they didn't
 compress them.  They end 
 with
 .gz and they tell you to uncompress them.  Does
 Oracle's left hand talk to
 the right hand?
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:16 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 yeah, and they said the same thing about the
 solaris ones... and you didn't
 have to unzip them either
 
 
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  Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring
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  Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:53:40 -0800
  
  Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions
 under the files specify to
  use
  gunzip to unzip them.
  
  Oh why, oh why does life have to be so
 difficult...
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think
 they really need to be
  unzipped.
  
  
  
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   Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800
   
   Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i
 Linux files from
   technet.oracle.com.  I then rebooted into Suse,
 copied the files over,
  but
   gunzip is not recognizing the files.  I
 switched back to Windoze and
  using
   Winzip it doesnt like the files either.  So I
 redownloaded just the
  smaller
   third file and neither will uncompress the
 file.  Am I missing 
 something
   here?
   
   I would download the files from SuSE but I
 can't get my DSL modem to
  work,
   so I have been downloading the files using
 Windoze.  Could that be the
   problem??
   
   TIA!!
   
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RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...

2001-08-28 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Nitzod, the 37th planet of the solar system Jotpa.  It's really cold there
right now.

Larry must have written that page...

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not usually no. you expect Oracle Documentation to be completely accurate? 
What planet are you from?  :)



From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:26:14 -0800

Ding, ding.  Give that pretty young lady a prize.  I cpio'ed them last 
night
with no problems.  I can't believe they didn't compress them.  They end 
with
.gz and they tell you to uncompress them.  Does Oracle's left hand talk to
the right hand?

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:16 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


yeah, and they said the same thing about the solaris ones... and you didn't
have to unzip them either


 From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:53:40 -0800
 
 Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to
 use
 gunzip to unzip them.
 
 Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult...
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be
 unzipped.
 
 
 
  From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
  Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800
  
  Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from
  technet.oracle.com.  I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over,
 but
  gunzip is not recognizing the files.  I switched back to Windoze and
 using
  Winzip it doesnt like the files either.  So I redownloaded just the
 smaller
  third file and neither will uncompress the file.  Am I missing 
something
  here?
  
  I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to
 work,
  so I have been downloading the files using Windoze.  Could that be the
  problem??
  
  TIA!!
  
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Re: OT: Re: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Jared . Still


 Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

 Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who
 you are. :)

Good idea Joe, shoulda thought of it myself.  :)

Though I must have missed the post you're referring to.

Did someone impugn my dignity?  To the list, without
Cc'ing me?  Goodness, what is the world coming to.  :O

Ok, for those of you that don't know, I am the owner of
this often useful, always hectic and sometimes crazy list.

This list is not moderated for a number of reasons.

1. I trust people to behave themselves.
2. There's lots of creative folks here and good ideas
come from free-range thinking. ( kinda like free-range
chicken you know?  we even lay eggs sometimes )
3. It's more interesting that way
4. I don't have time.

Did I mention I don't have time to moderate this list?

The reason I asked to discontinue the questionable activity
regarding cracking CD copyright infringement schemes is
chiefly this:

   *I don't want or need the hassle!*

I'm one of the people that the lawyers will call.  Yes it
has happened.  I don't like to talk to lawyers. Especially
when they've loosened up their holsters.

Bruce Bergman is the owner of fatcity.com, and he doesn't
like to talk to lawyers either.

So, in a nutshell, the only times I've ever 'cracked down' on
this list are.

1.  a sociopath that was baiting everyone
2.  Racial/ethnic/sexual humor
3.  blatantly offensive material ( i.e. I received many complaints )
4.  Off Topic threads that just go on too long.

So, you probably won't hear from me often in the capacity of list owner.

But if you do, it's nothing personal,  please just be polite and
gracious, and this list will be of benefit for everyone.

Thanks for reading,

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Seems we must have a bunch of new people.

Jared, why not introduce yourself to those who EVIDENTLY don't know who
you are. :)

and the whole concept of burning CDs is even way OT for me(who usually
starts an OT thread).

the concept was not making archival copies for yourself but the thread
had gone to, I have the crack for that software if you want it, that
is the illegal part.

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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

Relationship?  There's a relationship here?  Oh great:)
KK

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Spence
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:08 PM
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Well we know who wears the pants in this relationship.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

Christopher R. Spence
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North, Chelmsford 01863




-Original Message-
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Listen pal, this list is already too big as it is. Second, I
answer  questions far more frequently then I ask them. The fact is that this
is not the forum to ask about burning CDs. If you have a problem with
that, you don't have to respond to any of the questions that I might ask. If
you really want to discuss DMCA, DeCSS, 2600 case, Skylarov case and burning
CDs then go to Slashdot.org or an appropriate linux newsgroup. Here, I want
to read about oracle and only about oracle. Did I make myself clear?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:16 AM
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 Subject: Re: Burning game CD's


 Wow, someone had a really bad day!  It's ok to post things
 like this, we'lll
 try to keep this in mind the next tiem you post a question!
 KK
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  You are doing several things wrong:
  a) You are mailing yuor question to the wrong list.
  b) You haven't read the fine manuals.
  Conclusion: RTFM and do that somewhere else.
  Have a nice day.
 
   -Original Message-
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   Subject: OT: Burning game CD's
  
  
   Off Topic:  I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every
   CDROM burner.  I couldn't wait to use it.  I burned several game
   CD's (Age of Empires, Return
   Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked.  The
   games just hung
   when I ran them.  Bummer.  Is it not possible to make copies
   of my CD's or am I
   doing something wrong?
  
   Tom
  
   Tom Terrian
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RE: Burning game CD's

2001-08-28 Thread Satar Naghshineh
Title: RE: Burning game CD's





Hi Tom,


Here's a great website for all your burning questions!


http://www.ultimateresourcesite.com/cdburning/main.htm


Also a search on www.deja.com (AKA google) on burning game CD produced a lot of interesting related articles.


Happy Reading and Burning!


Regards,
Satar Naghshineh



 -Original Message-
 Tom
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:55 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Off Topic: I bought a PC this weekend that had my first every CDROM
 burner. I
 couldn't wait to use it. I burned several game CD's (Age of Empires,
 Return Fire II, Roller coaster Tycoon) and none of them worked. The games
 just hung
 when I ran them. Bummer. Is it not possible to make copies of my CD's or
 am I
 doing something wrong?

 Tom

 Tom Terrian
 Oracle DBA
 WPAFB - DAASC
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 937-656-3844

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Re: OT : kernel using 75% of CPU

2001-08-28 Thread George Schlossnagle
Title: Message



Are you running software raid 10 or software raid 5 
on that box?


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Christopher 
  Spence 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:30 
  PM
  Subject: RE: OT : kernel using 75% of 
  CPU
  
  Also 
  noticed a fairly high load average, it appears you have a lot of processes 
  trying to get on the cpu, for a very long time, over the last 15 minutes you 
  have had 15 load average which is high.
  
  
  
  
  "Do not criticize someone until you walked a 
  mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way 
  and have their shoes."
  Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax: (707) 885-2275 
  Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863  
  

-Original Message-From: Jerry C 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:20 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: OT 
: kernel using 75% of CPU
Hi there,

I have a Sun e4500, running Solaris 2.7 
and Oracle8.1.7.1.0. Everything looks normal from a database 
perspective, but when I run "top" it show the kernel being very 
hog-like:

load averages: 14.38, 15.18, 
15.18 
07:16:21126 processes: 118 sleeping, 4 running, 4 on cpuCPU 
states: 0.6% idle, 26.6% user, 72.8% kernel, 0.0% iowait, 
0.0% swapMemory: 4096M real, 63M free, 216M swap in use, 5310M swap 
free

 PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE 
SIZE RES STATE TIME CPU 
COMMAND2286 oracle 1 
0 0 1844M 1814M run 9:44 13.90% 
oracle11068 oracle 1 
0 0 2056K 1536K cpu0 0:02 1.53% 
top11333 oracle 1 
0 0 1150M 1124M cpu1 0:01 1.39% 
oracle5944 oracle 1 
40 0 1820M 1789M sleep 14:40 1.36% 
oracle4797 root 1 
50 0 2112K 1248K sleep 6:01 1.36% 
top11346 oracle 1 
0 0 110M 92M cpu0 
0:01 1.26% oracle4 oracle 
1 0 0 1009M 984M cpu1 
0:00 0.66% oracle11157 oracle 
1 0 0 1009M 984M 
run 0:00 0.63% oracle11368 
oracle 1 33 0 1794M 1765M 
sleep 0:00 0.29% oracle19558 
oracle 1 60 0 1797M 1751M 
sleep 78:28 0.28% oracle19554 oracle 
1 60 0 1794M 1751M sleep 38:05 0.20% 
oracle11366 oracle 1 55 
0 1793M 1763M sleep 0:00 0.19% oracle11292 
oracle 1 26 2 2008K 1424K 
run 0:00 0.19% dsql

Any ideas on what I, as a lowly DBA, 
would be able to check? It's a bit out of my area and I'm 
stumped...


Thanks!

Jerry


Oracle Learning Network

2001-08-28 Thread Yuval Arnon
Title: Oracle Learning Network





Hi,
Has any of you taken advantage of the $99 offer from Oracle Learning Network??
For those who use it, can you give your opinions of its content and quality.


Thanks.


Yuval.





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