RE: Background jobs inUnix

2001-10-02 Thread Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane)

Hi Suhen,


I guess the flwng is the syntax:

$ mknod -p /mydir/pipe_file 200m
$ exp user/passwd file=pipe_file  tables=abc  

correct me if I am wrong


thanq
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Srinivas,

Try using 
nohup compress /u01/dmps/zvr_dd.dmp 

It should not be a problem to close your Unix session.
I have not had any problems with the Unix compress utility on Oracle
Dump files.

You could also compress while you export using names pipes.
Let me know if you want the syntax.

Regards
Suhen



Hi Lists,

Shall I close the unix session after submitting my job (compressing the
dmp file after importing) in the background on solaris.

$ compress /u01/dmps/zvr_dd.dmp 

 is this harmful ?  (like killing the running jobs)


thnx in adv
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find out ip

2001-10-02 Thread Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane)

Hi lists

How to find out a server (solaris) IP address, that I logged in . 
Any command ?

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RE: How much data can SQL*Server hold?

2001-10-02 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe
Title: How much data can SQL*Server hold?



Lisa,

It may 
be a little late for your needs but I am attending a meeting in London (Oct1
 5th) about this very thing. Apparently (and I was blissfully unaware of this) 
we run a large-ish (about 70Gb) SQL*Server database for a major communications 
company and where costs prohibit the use of Oracle we may see this as a strategy 
for the future also, not sure about the parallel server side of things but I'm 
sure this will come up in the debate.

I can 
let you know on my return what the general feeling was (if its not too late) but 
I would also be grateful to be included on any replies to your original 
question.

Regards

Lee



  
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Re: find out ip

2001-10-02 Thread Christian Trassens

$ who am i
root   pts/12   obre  2 09:11  
(192.168.11.33)

Regards.


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optimizer function based indexes

2001-10-02 Thread Josef Huber



hello i've update my database from 8.1.7 release 3 to 9iand now 
following statement don't use my optimizer hint in 9i (in 8i 
itworks)upper_artikel_kurztext_idx is an function based 
indexselect /*+ index_asc(artikel upper_artikel_kurztext_idx */ * from 
artikelwhere upper(kurztext) LIKE '%WANN%'when i change the 
statement it works but i need above statementselect /*+ 
index_asc(artikel upper_artikel_kurztext_idx */ * from artikelwhere 
upper(kurztext) LIKE 'WANN%' orselect /*+ index_asc(artikel 
upper_artikel_kurztext_idx */ * from artikelwhere upper(kurztext) = 
'WANN'the following parameters are set in 
init.oraQUERY_REWRITE_ENABLED=TRUEQUERY_REWRITE_INTEGRITY=TRUSTEDOPTIMIZER_MODE 
= CHOOSEdatabase is analyzed !any ideasthanx 
joe


Re: find out ip

2001-10-02 Thread Jan Pruner

Your IP address is 127.0.0.1  :-)

JP
Try ifconfig

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RE: find out ip

2001-10-02 Thread Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane)

Thanks a lot


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$ who am i
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(192.168.11.33)

Regards.


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RE: How much data can SQL*Server hold?

2001-10-02 Thread Guy Hammond
Title: How much data can SQL*Server hold?



Hi 
Lisa,

About 
the biggest MSSQL implementation I am aware of is this:

http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/terra_tech.asp

1.5 
terabytes on SQL Server 2000, Windows 2000 Datacenter and Compaq ProLiant. 
There's even a picture of what it looks like! :0)

g


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  I have a consulting company telling me they can run a 
  500GB+ database on SQL*Server with no problems and I'm pretty skeptical. 
  What's the largest implementation of SQL*Server you've seen? Does SQL*Server 
  have parallel server functionality?
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RE: Comparing data between two tables in two schema

2001-10-02 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

If its the actual data you could look at the minus, intersect operators etc

eg 

select * from schema1.table 
minus
select * from schema2.table

give the data in schema1 not in schema 2.


Iain Nicoll

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I think that the Change Management Pack of the Oracle Enterprise Manager may

be useful to you.



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List,

I have two schema.  The tables in both schema are having same name and
structures.

Is there any tool to compare the data between two schema tabels?

Thanks,

Rao

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Re: please help me to unlock a table

2001-10-02 Thread ASHRAF SALAYMEH

Try this:
Alter table table_name disable table lock;

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BEGIN BACKUP MODE !!

2001-10-02 Thread Dash, Saroj (CAP,CEF)



Hello All,


When you take begin back up of  tablespace what exactly oracle does
internally.

what happen the transcation in that period.

Please tell me .
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Re: ORA-03113 when executing the initjvm script

2001-10-02 Thread Beatriz Martínez Jiménez

Thanks, christoffer, finally I have solved this and it works.

The parameters set I have now, is the following:

shared_pool_size 68157440 (size in bytes )
shared_pool_reserved_size 3407872
large_pool_size 614400
java_pool_size 5250
java_soft_sessionspace_limit 0
java_max_sessionspace_size 0
50 mb free in the system tablespace
XXX in the rollback segment.
I suppose that the rollback segment space is the following:

SQL select sum(rssize-writes) from v$rollstat;

SUM(RSSIZE-WRITES)
--
  29326204

A lot of thanks all,

Christopher Spence wrote:

 I notice this happens when you don't have enough rollback space.
 You may want to go through and check back and see what the original error
 was.

 You may want to increase your SP a little and decrease your JP a little.
 Although it is recommended to have SP: 20M  JP: 30M for the install, 90M of
 rollback, and if I remember 130M of System Tablespace.

 Also, there is a bug on metadink regarding changing call to execute, seems
 to cause this problem as well.  Forget the bug number.

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 I get  the ORA-03113 (end-of-file on communication channel) error when I
 execute the initjvm script. This script is needed to use utl_smtp
 package. Here is the output I get:
 ***
 ERROR:
 ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
 create or replace java system;
 *
 ERROR en línea 1:
 ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
 *

 The script is composed of several calls to another scripts, and is in
 the second one, the initjvm2.sql where the error appears.
 I have checked the trace and log files, but there isn´t any one that
 give me a clue on the problem.
 I have read something about checking some parameters, here is the output
 showing them:
 **
 SQL select * from v$parameter
   2  where name like '%pool_size%';

NUM
 NAME
 TYPE
 --
 
 --
 VALUE
 
 

 ISDEFAULT ISSES ISSYS_MOD ISMODIFIED ISADJ
 - - - -- -
 DESCRIPTION
 
 23
 shared_pool_size
 2
 19643392
 FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE  FALSE
 size in bytes of shared pool

 28
 large_pool_size
 2
 614400
 FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE  FALSE
 size in bytes of the large allocation pool

 30
 java_pool_size
 2
 5250
 FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE  FALSE
 size in bytes of the Java pool
 *
 I think they are setting correctly...
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RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Guy Hammond

Hello,

Slightly unrelated question... is it better to (in pseudo code) :

1) 

for each tablespace loop
put tablespace in backup mode
end loop

for each datafile in the database loop
copy data file
end loop

for each tablespace loop
put tablespace in normal mode
end loop


or 2)

for each tablespace loop
put tablespace in backup mode
for each datafile in this tablespace loop
copy data file
end loop
put tablespace in normal mode
end loop


What I'm doing is (2), but I notice that Rajesh is doing (1). What are
the pros and cons of each approach? (I'll probably use RMAN at some
point, anyway :0) ).

Cheers,

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Problem in setting PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2001-10-02 Thread Quaglio Andrea

Hello !
After having defined all the tables, now I have to parametrize each table.
I have some tables that every day must be deleted and reloaded through sql
loader.
I think to set PCTFREE = 0, but I don't know if I have to specify a
particular value for PCTUSED.
Anybody can give an advice about which value set PCTUSED ?

Thanks in advance,
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RE: Searching across multiple columns

2001-10-02 Thread Mark Leith

HELL of a reason to learn Perl!

Nice..

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PerlEvangelism

my $dbh = DBI-connect(
   'dbi:Oracle:' . $db,
   $username, $password,
   { RaiseError = 1, AutoCommit = 0 }
);

die connect failed\n unless $dbh;

my $sql='select * from persons;'
my $sth = dbh-prepare($sql) || die
my $rv = $sth-execute || die error in execution\n;

while ( my $arrarRef = sth-fetchrow_arrayref ) {
   my @array = @{$arrayRef};
   if ( grep(/\s+hoser\s+/gi, @array ) ) {
  print Hey!  I found a hoser!\n;
   }
}

/PerlEvangelism

This connected, built a cursor, read it and searched it.

Compare to how many lines of PL/SQL this would take.

Good reason to learn Perl?  :)

Jared





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Re: Searching across multiple columns

2001-10-02 Thread Jan Pruner

Well, but can you put some words about performance of Perl versus PL/SQL 
(where to use what)?

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 my $dbh = DBI-connect(
'dbi:Oracle:' . $db,
$username, $password,
{ RaiseError = 1, AutoCommit = 0 }
 );

 die connect failed\n unless $dbh;

 my $sql='select * from persons;'
 my $sth = dbh-prepare($sql) || die
 my $rv = $sth-execute || die error in execution\n;

 while ( my $arrarRef = sth-fetchrow_arrayref ) {
my @array = @{$arrayRef};
if ( grep(/\s+hoser\s+/gi, @array ) ) {
   print Hey!  I found a hoser!\n;
}
 }

 /PerlEvangelism

 This connected, built a cursor, read it and searched it.

 Compare to how many lines of PL/SQL this would take.

 Good reason to learn Perl?  :)

 Jared





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Log Buffers

2001-10-02 Thread Naveed

Hi list members,
 I'm new in the field of Oracle DBA. I'm trying to change the size of
Redo Buffers by setting the log_buffer parameter in init.ora file. But
its value does not mach to redo buffers when I connect to svrmgr and use
show sga command to view the SGA parameters.
Can anyone help me by explaining this.


Thanks 
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RE: Searching across multiple columns

2001-10-02 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

I'm sure Perl would be more efficient especially as you don't have to name
the columns, but if you don't have to worry about the combined columns being
too large isn't it equivalent to

select col1||'|'||col2 etc
from table
having col1||'|'||col2 etc like '%value%'

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HELL of a reason to learn Perl!

Nice..

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my $dbh = DBI-connect(
   'dbi:Oracle:' . $db,
   $username, $password,
   { RaiseError = 1, AutoCommit = 0 }
);

die connect failed\n unless $dbh;

my $sql='select * from persons;'
my $sth = dbh-prepare($sql) || die
my $rv = $sth-execute || die error in execution\n;

while ( my $arrarRef = sth-fetchrow_arrayref ) {
   my @array = @{$arrayRef};
   if ( grep(/\s+hoser\s+/gi, @array ) ) {
  print Hey!  I found a hoser!\n;
   }
}

/PerlEvangelism

This connected, built a cursor, read it and searched it.

Compare to how many lines of PL/SQL this would take.

Good reason to learn Perl?  :)

Jared





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RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Hot Backup Issue





Guy,
I would have thought 2) was best as you are reducing the concurrency (I think that is the right word) of redo log activity.

As each tablespace is in backup mode it writes the full block to the redo log when any changes are made. On the assumption that all tablespaces are being written (albeit infrequently) during the period of hot backup it is better to alter each tablespace, copy it then alter online again so that only 1 tablespace at a time is having full blocks of changed data writing to the redo logs.

The overall level of redo will be the same but contention (ah ha - better word) will be reduced


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Hello,


Slightly unrelated question... is it better to (in pseudo code) :


1) 


for each tablespace loop
 put tablespace in backup mode
end loop


for each datafile in the database loop
 copy data file
end loop


for each tablespace loop
 put tablespace in normal mode
end loop



or 2)


for each tablespace loop
 put tablespace in backup mode
 for each datafile in this tablespace loop
  copy data file
 end loop
 put tablespace in normal mode
end loop



What I'm doing is (2), but I notice that Rajesh is doing (1). What are
the pros and cons of each approach? (I'll probably use RMAN at some
point, anyway :0) ).


Cheers,


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SANPSHOT TECHNOLGIES ON WINDIWS 2000 CLUSTER SYSTEMS

2001-10-02 Thread Arslan Bahar


  hi  ,
  We have been studiyng about a project which is include Oracle Real
Application Clusters on Windows 2000 Cluster  System.
  And Our hardware vendors present to us snapshot technology on their
storage systems .We have orginized two meeting with DELL and HP vendores and
they said to us that  they could present to us snapshot tech. and We could
usathis snapshots as  consistent oracle  backups. But I am not sure about
this.
  Is there any body who has oracle or Oracle Parallel Server or 9i RAC and
this kind of storage systems.
   I need advice and expre?nced info aabout this sunbject.

  Thank YOu.


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Re: Problem in setting PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2001-10-02 Thread Connor McDonald

There are no strict rules, but its all about trying to
reduce the amount of wasted space under the high water
mark for the table.

That wasted space is when you have free'd up some
space in a block but the block is still deemed
sufficiently full for it not be considered for new
data.

This is where PCTUSED comes in.  

hth
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RE: count rows that are being imported

2001-10-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

srinivas,

Also look at using the COMMIT=Y command line prompt.  This will commit the
imported records every so often which would allow you to perform your select
count(*) command.

Be aware that if your import plan requires a complete rollback if something
bad happens, then using COMMIT=Y is probably not what you want to do, as the
records are truely committed.  In that case, as Bruce said, using the
FEEDBACK command is probably better.

For a quick reference of commands, type IMP HELP=Y at the command line.

hope this helps.

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Hi,

Look into imp -feedback.

From the manual (816 Utilities, chapter 2):

FEEDBACK
Default: 0 (zero) 

Specifies that Import should display a progress meter in the form of a dot
for n number of rows imported. For example, if you specify FEEDBACK=10,
Import displays a dot each time 10 rows have been imported. The FEEDBACK
value applies to all tables being imported; it cannot be set on a per-table
basis. 



If your import has already started, you could possibly use logminer to query
the redo / archive logs to count the number of inserted rows - I haven't
tried this though.


HTH,
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Hi lists,

I have a tablespace that is 600 M size, has 4 million rows.

It is taking nearly 2 hrs to finish the import.

In the meantime, I tried selecting howmany rows imported(from another
session), but every time I issue query,the result is zero. 

But after finishing the import I got the total count.

Is there anyway to see how may rows imported in that table(in the middle
or import process, from another session) ?

thnx in adv.

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RE: Problem in setting PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2001-10-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Andrea,

If it were me and I had tables that were reloaded every day, I would set the
following:

PCTFREE=5  : Since you are not doing deletes  inserts, keep this small
PCTUSED=95 : Since you are not doing updates, pack the data right in tight. 
PCTINCREASE=0 : I ALWAYS set this to 0.

and, make sure that the INITIAL extent size was large enough to hold all of
the data.

Hope this helps.

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Hello !
After having defined all the tables, now I have to parametrize each table.
I have some tables that every day must be deleted and reloaded through sql
loader.
I think to set PCTFREE = 0, but I don't know if I have to specify a
particular value for PCTUSED.
Anybody can give an advice about which value set PCTUSED ?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Comparing data between two tables in two schema

2001-10-02 Thread Jan Pruner

This function comapres two tables.
It's easy to write a cycle for tables in two schemas.
Enjoy it.

Jan Pruner



create function   compare_tables( tbl1 VARCHAR2, tbl2 VARCHAR2) return NUMBER
/* Function compares content of two identical tables
||  tbl1, tbl2 are names of tables in format owner.table_name
||  2001, Jan Pruner
*/
AS
cnt1number;
cnt2number;
cnt3number;
res number;
sql_stmtvarchar2(100);
begin
-- count of tuples in 1. table 
sql_stmt := 'select count(*) into cnt1 from :1';
EXECUTE IMMEDIATE sql_stmt USING tbl1;
-- count of tuples in 2. table 
sql_stmt := 'select count(*) into cnt2 from :1';
EXECUTE IMMEDIATE sql_stmt USING tbl2;
-- count of tuples in union of tables 
sql_stmt := 'select count(*) into cnt3 from ( select * from :1 UNION select * 
from :2) t';
EXECUTE IMMEDIATE sql_stmt USING tbl1, tbl2;

if (cnt1 = cnt2) and (cnt2 = cnt3) then
res := 0 ;
else 
res := 1 ;
end if;
return res;
end;



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 List,
 
 I have two schema.  The tables in both schema are having same name and
 structures.
 
 Is there any tool to compare the data between two schema tabels?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rao
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RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael

well 1 is simpler to code.  :)

However, if you put all tablespaces in backup mode at once, you will be
generating a LOT of extra redo and archived logs.

That's because even if you are not currently backinf up that tablespace
(say you already HAVE backed it up), you will still have to write full
blocks to the redo log for that tablespace. So it's extra strain on the
system


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 Hello,
 
 Slightly unrelated question... is it better to (in pseudo code) :
 
 1) 
 
 for each tablespace loop
   put tablespace in backup mode
 end loop
 
 for each datafile in the database loop
   copy data file
 end loop
 
 for each tablespace loop
   put tablespace in normal mode
 end loop
 
 
 or 2)
 
 for each tablespace loop
   put tablespace in backup mode
   for each datafile in this tablespace loop
   copy data file
   end loop
   put tablespace in normal mode
 end loop
 
 
 What I'm doing is (2), but I notice that Rajesh is doing (1). What
 are
 the pros and cons of each approach? (I'll probably use RMAN at some
 point, anyway :0) ).
 
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RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Ron Rogers

Guy,
 Some reasons why NOT to put all tablespaces in the backup mode at once (step 1) is 
that the tranactions against the database could create a lot of redo and archive logs 
that could fill the space, tranaction time could be longer as it now reads the redo 
not the tables, Snapshot to old could occur, If there is a problem and the server 
restarts Oracle will not start tablespaces in the backup mode you have to manually 
issue the tablespace normal command.
 Doing each tablespace individually allow you more control over the process.
Just a few thoughts.
ROR mª¿ªm

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Hello,

Slightly unrelated question... is it better to (in pseudo code) :

1) 

for each tablespace loop
put tablespace in backup mode
end loop

for each datafile in the database loop
copy data file
end loop

for each tablespace loop
put tablespace in normal mode
end loop


or 2)

for each tablespace loop
put tablespace in backup mode
for each datafile in this tablespace loop
copy data file
end loop
put tablespace in normal mode
end loop


What I'm doing is (2), but I notice that Rajesh is doing (1). What are
the pros and cons of each approach? (I'll probably use RMAN at some
point, anyway :0) ).

Cheers,

g
 
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Re: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Don Granaman

The main disadvantage of #1 is that lgwr will write full blocks to the redo logs
for the entire database until the entire backup is finished.  If that takes a
while and there is significant activity, it can generate tremendous amounts of
redo - and archive.  Lgwr and the I/O subsystem are doing more work since they
are writing more data.  This is what I have do when using EMC and BCV splits for
backups since it is so fast.

#2 is, in my opinion, better for any normal backups - such as to tape.  Since
only one tablespace at a time is in backup mode, redo and archive generation is
minimized.  This is especially true if only a relatively small fraction of the
database is undergoing significnant transactional activity.  The length of time
when lgwr is writing full blocks for those transactions is only as long as it
takes to back up those particular tablespaces, not all tablespaces.

-Don Granaman
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Hello,

Slightly unrelated question... is it better to (in pseudo code) :

1)

for each tablespace loop
put tablespace in backup mode
end loop

for each datafile in the database loop
copy data file
end loop

for each tablespace loop
put tablespace in normal mode
end loop


or 2)

for each tablespace loop
put tablespace in backup mode
for each datafile in this tablespace loop
copy data file
end loop
put tablespace in normal mode
end loop


What I'm doing is (2), but I notice that Rajesh is doing (1). What are
the pros and cons of each approach? (I'll probably use RMAN at some
point, anyway :0) ).

Cheers,

g


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Re: Background jobs inUnix

2001-10-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael

that will kill the job...

if you want it to continue after you log out, you should run:

nohup compress /u01/dmps/zvr_dd.dmp 

this will allow it to run disconnected from a terminal and will
continue after you log out. You will get the message you have running
jobs when you type exit, just type exit again.


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 Shall I close the unix session after submitting my job (compressing
 the
 dmp file after importing) in the background on solaris.
 
 $ compress /u01/dmps/zvr_dd.dmp 
 
  is this harmful ?  (like killing the running jobs)
 
 
 thnx in adv
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RE: Log Buffers

2001-10-02 Thread Arslan Bahar

 it  can be because of log_buffer is enforced to 4 times of OS block size.

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Hi list members,
 I'm new in the field of Oracle DBA. I'm trying to change the size of
Redo Buffers by setting the log_buffer parameter in init.ora file. But
its value does not mach to redo buffers when I connect to svrmgr and use
show sga command to view the SGA parameters.
Can anyone help me by explaining this.


Thanks 
Naveed




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RE: BEGIN BACKUP MODE !!

2001-10-02 Thread Christopher Spence

It freezes increasing the SCN of the data files associated with the
tablespace.  Then it writes full block data to the redo logs instead of the
standard old, new, operation data.  If the block has already been written
out, it will use an algorithm to avoid constantly writing out the same
blocks.

However, in nutshell, there is an increased log on the logs and archive logs
as well as their processes.  Transactions go along fine with no differences.
In addition, yes, data IS written to the data files while in begin backup
mode and thus corrupting the data files (that is why full blocks are written
out so they can be overlaid over the corrupted blocks in their entirety).

It is not recommended to do more than one tablespace in backup mode at the
same time on a highly transactional system.  Although this is highly system
dependant.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Hello All,


When you take begin back up of  tablespace what exactly oracle does
internally.

what happen the transcation in that period.

Please tell me .
Regards,
saroj.
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Re[2]: For i (Select..)

2001-10-02 Thread dgoulet

You can do all three, but if you do not declare it you can't use the 'for update
of' clause. Of course the 'for i in ()loop' does replace a lot of lines of code.

Dick Goulet

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You can also use the for loop - end loop with explicit cursors..  You don't
have to define the cursor in the loop itself..  That is my preferred method
(defining the cursor in the declare section and referencing it in the for
loop)..  There really isn't any more work defining the cursor up front and
then using the for loop as there is using the for loop and defining the
cursor in the loop..

Steve

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 If you only use a cursor in this manner, the only place that the cursor
can
 be used is in the particular For Loop in which it is defined - it can't be
 shared by other procedures or functions.

 If you design and create packaged public cursors, they can be reused from
 other stored procedures and/or client side programs.

 Code reuse is just one advantage.  When table structures change - as they
 invariably do - you have only a few cursors to change, instead of a
 bazillion Cursor For Loops.  Also, you can more easily tune a few public
 cursors.

 I'd also recommend passing in Table%RowType arguments to your public
cursors
 and specifying that they return Table%RowType records.  That further
 isolates your code from table changes.

 Jack

 
 Jack C. Applewhite
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 Hi,

 If this code is a cursor then why doesn't everybody use it this way?

 For me it seems a lot simplier and easier than declaring a cursor in a
 normal way.

 At 14:50 2001.10.01. -0800, you wrote:
 the code IS a cursor
 
 
 --- Csillag Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   Hi,
  
  
   I've read in Tom Kyte's book the following technique:
  
  
  For i in (Select statement ) Loop
  
 Process records here
  
  End Loop ;
  
 I have tried it and it works great.
  
   The question is that what is the difference betwen a cursor and the
   code above?
   Which is more efficient?
  
  

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Re:BEGIN BACKUP MODE !!

2001-10-02 Thread dgoulet

Saroj,

Oracle does two things when you issue the start backup command.  1) It
freezes the SCN in the header block of all datafiles in that tablespace and 2)
it begins writing full block redo, from my experience for all tablespaces in the
database.  Some folks, including Oracle themselves, do not recommend putting the
entire database into hotbackup mode at one time.  There are varying reasons for
that  we could probably start a 'holy war' on the subject.  But I do it all the
time as it does make recovery a little simpler to fathom and it makes matters on
my SA's easier to manage.  The scenario I follow is a) put all of the
tablespaces into backup mode, b) back up all of the datafiles followed by the
control file(s), c) end the backup, d) backup all of the archive redo logs.  Now
you've got a set of data files that can be used to restore to a replacement
system, almost (but not exactly) like you had a cold backup.

Dick Goulet

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Hello All,


When you take begin back up of  tablespace what exactly oracle does
internally.

what happen the transcation in that period.

Please tell me .
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saroj.
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RE: Extents size.

2001-10-02 Thread Ramon Estevez

I did the same reorganization two weeks ago, not the same amount of data,
but
I used 128k for index tablespaces, 4m for the most activity TS (Sales) and
5160k for the others.

I am very, very, very happy with the performance.


I read two articles that some folks from the list sent me.

Good luck!!!

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Asunto: Extents size.


Hello,

I'll do an reorganization of a database (about 140 gigs). Some people say
that it'd be good to use 128K, 4M and 128M extents. I saw somewhere it'd be
160K, 4M and 160M. Which size do you advice me ? I have also many small
indexes (less than 16K).

Regards,

Thanh-truc Nguyen

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RE: Database Hangs -- System shows latch contentions

2001-10-02 Thread Gupta, Brijesh
Title: RE: Database Hangs -- System shows latch contentions





Thanks. Yes its shared pool and Library cache.
Shared pool was 4 GB initially I reduced it to 1.5 GB
then we had problem and we increased it to 1.9 GB.


We can't go to 8.1.6 new as it requires lot of testing and users are not ready for that.


I guess I will have to live with that till they decide to go to 8.1.6.


Thanks


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Subject: Re: Database Hangs -- System shows latch contentions



What is in V$LATCH. If its shared pool and library
cache contention I'd be tempted to:


a) upgrade to 8.1.6+ where the algorithm is better
b) reduce the size of your shared pool


hth
connor


--- Gupta, Brijesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  Hi all
 My database almost hangs and when I query the
 v$session_wait I found
 latch contention.
 we are running on Oracle 8.0.5 (64bit) Oracle
 application 10.7 SC.
 Shared pool is 1.9GB and SGA 9GB.
 I have to flush the shared_pool to get rid of the
 problem.
 
 Can any one help me in finding the permanent
 solution of this problem.
 
 Brijesh
 
 Wait Sec in
 EVENT time SID Wait
 STATE
 BLOCK
 -- -- ---
 --- ---
 --
 latch free 0 40 
 1 WAITING
 address=pp92556056 number=60 tries=25
 latch free 0 43 
 0 WAITING
 address=9465536000 number=53 tries=1
 latch free -1 89 
 0 WAITED SHORT TIME
 address=pp92559080 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 47 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556056 number=60 tries=1
 latch free -1 190 
 0 WAITED SHORT TIME
 address=9465548816 number=59 tries=0
 latch free 0 281 
 1 WAITING
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 latch free 1 317 
 2 WAITED KNOWN TIME
 address=9465548816 number=59 tries=0
 latch free -1 343 
 1 WAITED SHORT TIME
 address=9465548816 number=59 tries=0
 latch free 0 391 
 2 WAITING
 address=pp92556200 number=60 tries=25
 latch free 0 369 
 2 WAITING
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 latch free 0 631 
 1 WAITING
 address=pp92556344 number=60 tries=0
 latch free -1 627 
 0 WAITED SHORT TIME
 address=pp92559080 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 600 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556344 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 1 577 
 1 WAITED KNOWN TIME
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 latch free -1 465 
 1 WAITED SHORT TIME
 address=9465548816 number=59 tries=1
 latch free 0 448 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92557208 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 414 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556920 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 409 
 2 WAITING
 address=pp92555912 number=60 tries=26
 latch free 0 950 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556632 number=60 tries=2
 latch free 0 949 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92555768 number=60 tries=1
 latch free 0 930 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556776 number=60 tries=1
 latch free 0 915 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556920 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 901 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92557064 number=60 tries=0
 latch free -1 889 
 0 WAITED SHORT TIME
 address=9465536000 number=53 tries=0
 latch free 0 858 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556344 number=60 tries=1
 latch free 1 832 
 1 WAITED KNOWN TIME
 address=pp92559224 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 827 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556200 number=60 tries=1
 latch free 0 826 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556344 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 820 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556776 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 805 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556344 number=60 tries=1
 latch free 0 757 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92555768 number=60 tries=1
 latch free 0 718 
 1 WAITING
 address=pp92556632 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 697 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556056 number=60 tries=1
 latch free 0 666 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556200 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 1154 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92555912 number=60 tries=1
 latch free 0 1138 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556200 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 1132 
 0 WAITING
 address=9465536000 number=53 tries=1
 latch free 0 1068 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556776 number=60 tries=2
 latch free 0 1058 
 0 WAITING
 address=9465536000 number=53 tries=1
 latch free 1 1037 
 0 WAITED KNOWN TIME
 address=pp92557064 number=60 tries=0
 latch free -1 963 
 0 WAITED SHORT TIME
 address=pp92556200 number=60 tries=1
 latch free 0 952 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556776 number=60 tries=1
 latch free 1 1425 
 0 WAITED KNOWN TIME
 address=pp92556200 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 1421 
 2 WAITING
 address=pp92555768 number=60 tries=29
 latch free 0 1412 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556344 number=60 tries=0
 latch free 0 1398 
 0 WAITING
 address=9465536000 number=53 tries=1
 latch free -1 1385 
 1 WAITED SHORT TIME
 address=9465548816 number=59 tries=0
 latch free 1 1357 
 0 WAITED KNOWN TIME
 address=9465536000 number=53 tries=1
 latch free 0 1338 
 2 WAITING
 address=pp92555912 number=60 tries=25
 latch free 0 1330 
 2 WAITING
 address=pp92556200 number=60 tries=19
 latch free 0 1301 
 0 WAITING
 address=pp92556200 number=60 tries=0
 latch 

RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Guy Hammond
Title: RE: Hot Backup Issue



That 
makes sense, I just wanted to check :0) And of course, transactions in other 
tablespaces would be writing redo as normal. The overall level of redo generated 
would surely be less, tho'? Because say you had 5 tablespaces and put them all 
into hotbackup mode. Then the 5th tablespace would be writing full blocks to the 
redo log for all the time it took to copy the datafiles of the first 4, rather 
than for just the time it took to copy itself if you only put tablespaces into 
backup mode while they were actually having their datafiles copied? And when 
recovering, Oracle doesn't mind that some redo information will be full blocks, 
and some not, if a transaction spans multiple tablespaces, one of which was in 
hotbackup mode and the rest not when the transaction was 
committed?

Thanks,

g

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  RE: Hot Backup Issue
  Guy, I would have thought 2) was best 
  as you are reducing the concurrency (I think that is the right word) of redo 
  log activity.
  As each tablespace is in backup mode it writes the full block 
  to the redo log when any changes are made. On the assumption that all 
  tablespaces are being written (albeit infrequently) during the period of hot 
  backup it is better to alter each tablespace, copy it then alter online again 
  so that only 1 tablespace at a time is having full blocks of changed data 
  writing to the redo logs.
  The overall level of redo will be the same but contention (ah 
  ha - better word) will be reduced 
  John 
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  Hello, 
  Slightly unrelated question... is it better to (in pseudo 
  code) : 
  1) 
  for each tablespace loop 
   put tablespace in 
  backup mode end loop 
  for each datafile in the database loop 
   copy data 
  file end loop 
  for each tablespace loop 
   put tablespace in 
  normal mode end loop 
  or 2) 
  for each tablespace loop 
   put tablespace in 
  backup mode  for each datafile in this tablespace loop 
   
   copy data file 
   end loop 
   put tablespace in 
  normal mode end loop 
  What I'm doing is (2), but I notice that Rajesh is doing (1). 
  What are the pros and cons of each approach? (I'll 
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control file contents

2001-10-02 Thread Guy Hammond

Hello,

Out of curiosity just now, I ran strings on a backup of my control
file. In it, there are lots of repeated references to archive log files
- there are groups log file names, and the same name might appear in
multiple groups. Is this a list of the redo logs that you would need to
recover the database from the time of the previous backup to the time
that the control file was written? Because, looking in my archive log
destination, these are a lot older than the last hot backup. 

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RE: Meaning of V$WAITSTAT statistics

2001-10-02 Thread Mohan, Ross

right...okwell.

save=write


??

that's what I have always ASSumed...?

hth

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ok, I know the meaning of the undo block and undo header statistics, but

I don't know how to understand the save undo block and save undo header 
statistics.



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Hello !
  I need to know what is the meaning of the save undo block and save
undo header statistics in the V$WAITSTAT view.

TIA.
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RE: Log Buffers

2001-10-02 Thread Mark Leith

Did you bounce (shutdown  startup) your instance?

If you set an initialisation parameter, you will need to cycle your instance
for these parameters to be reinforced.

HTH

Mark

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 it  can be because of log_buffer is enforced to 4 times of OS block size.

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Hi list members,
 I'm new in the field of Oracle DBA. I'm trying to change the size of
Redo Buffers by setting the log_buffer parameter in init.ora file. But
its value does not mach to redo buffers when I connect to svrmgr and use
show sga command to view the SGA parameters.
Can anyone help me by explaining this.


Thanks
Naveed




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RE: Comparing data between two tables in two schema

2001-10-02 Thread Gogala, Mladen

The freware tora tool also has some compare capabilities. I've tested
if with whe users scott and scott1 (both populated throuh the demobld
script and, therefore containing vast masses of data) and it worked well.
I haven't tested it on a real life database, mostly because the word
freeware
is considered rude in production environment.

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 Enterprise Manager may 
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 I have two schema.  The tables in both schema are having 
 same name and
 structures.
 
 Is there any tool to compare the data between two schema tabels?
 
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RE: BEGIN BACKUP MODE !!

2001-10-02 Thread Gogala, Mladen

What happens? What happens is exactly what is described in the DBA guide
and concepts manual. You can find bth of those on http://technet.oracle.com.
Read the fine manual.

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 When you take begin back up of  tablespace what exactly oracle does
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 what happen the transcation in that period.
 
 Please tell me .
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New disks on AIX, things to monitor/checks??

2001-10-02 Thread Raghu Kota


Hi Friends,

We are going to add new disks other than existing disks!! My front end is 
baan, my system is AIX 4.1.5 with 200Gb data( I think its before AIX 4.3 
version). My task is to test new disks performance like is it viable or 
not!! So what are the things I need to monitor?? or any checks I have to 
do?? I appreciate any light on this??

TIA
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Problems Installing a patch on Solaris for Intel

2001-10-02 Thread Dave Leach

Apologies for asking another question on this (posted one yesterday) but I'm
stuck,

I am using patchadd to install 2 patches (107545-03 and 106542-17) to
Solaris for Intel, these patches are required for Oracle 8.1.6.  I keep
getting the following message:

Checking installed patches...
One or more patch packages included in
107545-03 are not installed on this system.

I assume that I am missing some required packages but the release notes for
the patches do not mention this, how can I determine what's missing and
hence what I need to do to overcome this?

Many thanks for any help,

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Migration v. Upgrade

2001-10-02 Thread Erik Williams

I cannot find a definitive definition of these two terms on metalink. Can
these terms be used interchangeably or is there a difference?

Thanks
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Re:RE: Comparing data between two tables in two schema

2001-10-02 Thread dgoulet

Why not try the time tested brute force method?  

Select * from owner1.table1 
intersect select * from owner2.table2;

If you get the same number of rows as there are in the tables individually then
they are equal.  BTW: it's cheap too.

Dick Goulet

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The freware tora tool also has some compare capabilities. I've tested
if with whe users scott and scott1 (both populated throuh the demobld
script and, therefore containing vast masses of data) and it worked well.
I haven't tested it on a real life database, mostly because the word
freeware
is considered rude in production environment.

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 I think that the Change Management Pack of the Oracle 
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 List,
 
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 same name and
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 Is there any tool to compare the data between two schema tabels?
 
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RE: Meaning of V$WAITSTAT statistics

2001-10-02 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Save undo headers are made for the Billy Graham's database only. Just
kidding.  
The save undo headers refer to the deferred rollback segment, which are 
created if a tablespace goes offline with uncommitted transactions. Those 
deferred rollback segments are created in the tablespace SYSTEM and there
is
no way of changing that (allegedly, some magic happens if the default
tablespace
is changed for the user 'SYS', but I've never tested that. It might be a
rumor).
From the performance perspective, you can safely ignore the save undo
statistics.

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 ok, I know the meaning of the undo block and undo header 
 statistics, but 
 I don't know how to understand the save undo block and 
 save undo header 
 statistics.
 
 
 
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Re: Oracle Open World

2001-10-02 Thread Jared Still

On Monday 01 October 2001 19:55, satar naghshineh wrote:

 Regards,
 Satar Groping Hands  Grandma Fetish Naghshineh

OK, it's already been on the list once, that's enough.

Don't prolong it.

Jared


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Re: Extents size.

2001-10-02 Thread Jared Still



Ramon,

Why use an extent size of 5.16 meg when you are 
already using 4 meg?

Jared

On Tuesday 02 October 2001 07:40, Ramon Estevez wrote:
 I did the same reorganization two weeks ago, not the same amount of data,
 but
 I used 128k for index tablespaces, 4m for the most activity TS (Sales) and
 5160k for the others.

 I am very, very, very happy with the performance.


 I read two articles that some folks from the list sent me.

 Good luck!!!

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 Hello,

 I'll do an reorganization of a database (about 140 gigs). Some people say
 that it'd be good to use 128K, 4M and 128M extents. I saw somewhere it'd be
 160K, 4M and 160M. Which size do you advice me ? I have also many small
 indexes (less than 16K).

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Slightly OT

2001-10-02 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

By any chance are any on this list members of TCOUG(Twin Cities Oracle Users
Group)?  If so are you planning on attending tomorrows conference in
Bloomington on Oracle System Performance given by Cary Millsap?

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RE: Extents size.

2001-10-02 Thread Christopher Spence

That is completely a myth.  There is no notable performance different with a
table with 10,000 extents and one with 1. 

The only problem is when it comes to the bitmaps when dealing with LMT and
cluster when dealing with dictionary managed.  When you query the extent
views, or do space management type processes.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
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May be it is good practice to keep number of extents to be less than 50, no
matter what the size of extent.



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Hello,

I'll do an reorganization of a database (about 140 gigs). Some people say
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160K, 4M and 160M. Which size do you advice me ? I have also many small
indexes (less than 16K).

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oem job fails..

2001-10-02 Thread Sunil_Nookala

Hi Guys,
While running a job(with lot of updates)in oem i get this error:

ORA-00054: resource busy and acquire with NOWAIT specified.

data base is 8.1.7 on NT.
please help me how to fix it.

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RE: Problem in setting PCTFREE and PCTUSED

2001-10-02 Thread Christopher Spence

You can not make an intelligent guess at what these values should be without
knowing:

1.  Average Row Length
2.  Blocks Size
3.  Average Rows/Block
4.  How active the table is for insert, deletes, updates.
5.  Average size of updates (1,2,3 columns, 1 byte, 10 bytes)

Without these pieces of information, you just as well keep the defaults, it
is just mere guessing to set them to anything else.


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Hello !
After having defined all the tables, now I have to parametrize each table.
I have some tables that every day must be deleted and reloaded through sql
loader.
I think to set PCTFREE = 0, but I don't know if I have to specify a
particular value for PCTUSED.
Anybody can give an advice about which value set PCTUSED ?

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RE: Extents size.

2001-10-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael

well, only when you are deleting massive amounts of data or truncating
with drop storage.. then there is an impact because of the hits on the
dictionary tables.

but basically yes... I've been told by various Oracle employees that up
to 4096 extents cause no problem whatsoever.


--- Christopher Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That is completely a myth.  There is no notable performance different
 with a
 table with 10,000 extents and one with 1. 
 
 The only problem is when it comes to the bitmaps when dealing with
 LMT and
 cluster when dealing with dictionary managed.  When you query the
 extent
 views, or do space management type processes.
 
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 that way
 when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.
 
 Christopher R. Spence 
 Oracle DBA
 Phone: (978) 322-5744
 Fax:(707) 885-2275
 
 Fuelspot
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 North, Chelmsford 01863
  
 
 
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 May be it is good practice to keep number of extents to be less than
 50, no
 matter what the size of extent.
 
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:35 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I'll do an reorganization of a database (about 140 gigs). Some people
 say
 that it'd be good to use 128K, 4M and 128M extents. I saw somewhere
 it'd be
 160K, 4M and 160M. Which size do you advice me ? I have also many
 small
 indexes (less than 16K).
 
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Re: Searching across multiple columns

2001-10-02 Thread Jared Still


On a logical level perhaps.

Try coding it.  It will also be slow.

Perl is *much* faster for something like this.

Jared

On Tuesday 02 October 2001 06:00, Nicoll, Iain (Calanais) wrote:
 I'm sure Perl would be more efficient especially as you don't have to name
 the columns, but if you don't have to worry about the combined columns
 being too large isn't it equivalent to

 select col1||'|'||col2 etc
 from table
 having col1||'|'||col2 etc like '%value%'

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 HELL of a reason to learn Perl!

 Nice..

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 PerlEvangelism

 my $dbh = DBI-connect(
'dbi:Oracle:' . $db,
$username, $password,
{ RaiseError = 1, AutoCommit = 0 }
 );

 die connect failed\n unless $dbh;

 my $sql='select * from persons;'
 my $sth = dbh-prepare($sql) || die
 my $rv = $sth-execute || die error in execution\n;

 while ( my $arrarRef = sth-fetchrow_arrayref ) {
my @array = @{$arrayRef};
if ( grep(/\s+hoser\s+/gi, @array ) ) {
   print Hey!  I found a hoser!\n;
}
 }

 /PerlEvangelism

 This connected, built a cursor, read it and searched it.

 Compare to how many lines of PL/SQL this would take.

 Good reason to learn Perl?  :)

 Jared





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RE: Meaning of V$WAITSTAT statistics

2001-10-02 Thread Christopher Spence

Save undo is when a tablespace has undo information, but is currently
offline.

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Hello !
 I need to know what is the meaning of the save undo block and save
undo header statistics in the V$WAITSTAT view.

TIA.
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RE: RE: Comparing data between two tables in two schema

2001-10-02 Thread Gogala, Mladen

That is not elegant and doesn't have a GOOEY interface. 
It also requires the  knowledge of SQL, which is a lot 
to ask from a poor little DBA like me.

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 Why not try the time tested brute force method?  
 
 Select * from owner1.table1 
 intersect select * from owner2.table2;
 
 If you get the same number of rows as there are in the tables 
 individually then
 they are equal.  BTW: it's cheap too.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
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 The freware tora tool also has some compare capabilities. 
 I've tested
 if with whe users scott and scott1 (both populated throuh 
 the demobld
 script and, therefore containing vast masses of data) and it 
 worked well.
 I haven't tested it on a real life database, mostly because the word
 freeware
 is considered rude in production environment.
 
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  I think that the Change Management Pack of the Oracle 
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  be useful to you.
  
  
  
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  List,
  
  I have two schema.  The tables in both schema are having 
  same name and
  structures.
  
  Is there any tool to compare the data between two schema tabels?
  
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Re: oem job fails..

2001-10-02 Thread JOE TESTA



read the oracle docs om error 54.

joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/02/01 12:40PM 
Hi Guys,While running a job(with lot of updates)in oem i get 
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pl/sql question

2001-10-02 Thread Eric . Chesebro


Can I somehow use a variable for the table name in a cursor select?

Here is the example:

--Declaration Section

 sSrcTableName  VARCHAR2(50)   := iFeedNm||'_1_1_'
||TO_CHAR(SYSDATE,'YYMMDD')||'_SRC';

 --cursor for tmo daily source records
 CURSOR cTMODaily IS
  SELECT*
  FROM   sSrcTableName;

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Re:oem job fails..

2001-10-02 Thread dgoulet

Sunil,

Depends on what your job is doing.  From the error message I would expect
that it needs an exclusive lock on a database object that someone else is using.
 Please post the code.

Dick Goulet

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Hi Guys,
While running a job(with lot of updates)in oem i get this error:

ORA-00054: resource busy and acquire with NOWAIT specified.

data base is 8.1.7 on NT.
please help me how to fix it.

Sunil Nookala
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Re: optimizer function based indexes

2001-10-02 Thread Oliver Artelt


Hi,
Have you checked OPTIMIZER_FEATURES_ENABLE?

oli

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 hello i've update my database from 8.1.7 release 3 to 9i
 and now following statement don't use my optimizer hint in 9i (in 8i it
 works)
 
 upper_artikel_kurztext_idx is an function based index
 select /*+  index_asc(artikel upper_artikel_kurztext_idx */ * from artikel
 where upper(kurztext) LIKE '%WANN%'
 
 when i change the statement it works but i need above statement
 select /*+  index_asc(artikel upper_artikel_kurztext_idx */ * from artikel
 where upper(kurztext) LIKE 'WANN%' or
 select /*+  index_asc(artikel upper_artikel_kurztext_idx */ * from artikel
 where upper(kurztext) = 'WANN'
 
 the following parameters are set in init.ora
 QUERY_REWRITE_ENABLED=TRUE
 QUERY_REWRITE_INTEGRITY=TRUSTED
 OPTIMIZER_MODE = CHOOSE
 
 database is analyzed !
 
 any ideas
 
 thanx joe
 
 


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Re:RE: Extents size.

2001-10-02 Thread dgoulet

Back in the V6 days it was a desired characteristic to have every thing in the
first extent of an object for performance reasons.  Thankfully those days are
gone and it really does not matter how many extents there are.  Rachel has a
presentation on Oracle Myths where she actually portrays having multiple extents
as a good thing from an IO perspective (Rachel, correct me if I got this wrong).
 Although I can't give you exact examples, take a look and 
v$filestat.  I've found that tablespaces where there are more than one extent in
the objects have a lower average io wait time that those where everything is in
the first extent.

The only real good reason I have found for re-organizing a tablespace is to get
all of the used extents at one end and all of the free extents (you know those
little bitty ones that individually aren't worth the trouble, but together!!) at
the other end.

Dick Goulet
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That is completely a myth.  There is no notable performance different with a
table with 10,000 extents and one with 1. 

The only problem is when it comes to the bitmaps when dealing with LMT and
cluster when dealing with dictionary managed.  When you query the extent
views, or do space management type processes.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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May be it is good practice to keep number of extents to be less than 50, no
matter what the size of extent.



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Hello,

I'll do an reorganization of a database (about 140 gigs). Some people say
that it'd be good to use 128K, 4M and 128M extents. I saw somewhere it'd be
160K, 4M and 160M. Which size do you advice me ? I have also many small
indexes (less than 16K).

Regards,

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RE: pl/sql question

2001-10-02 Thread Christopher Spence

Use DBMS_SQL or EXECUTE IMMEDIATE

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when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Can I somehow use a variable for the table name in a cursor select?

Here is the example:

--Declaration Section

 sSrcTableName  VARCHAR2(50)   := iFeedNm||'_1_1_'
||TO_CHAR(SYSDATE,'YYMMDD')||'_SRC';

 --cursor for tmo daily source records
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RE: Migration v. Upgrade

2001-10-02 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Erik - I believe the upgrade / recovery manual will have the more concise
definition you seek. Look for the Oracle version you are on and the one you
want to move to and it will tell you whether you need to upgrade or migrate.
With an upgrade you usually just bring up the new version and run some
procedures to modify your system tables. With migrate it is much more
involved. To put things concisely:
   upgrade - good
   migrate - bad
upgrade - minor, easy.
migrate - hard, difficult, headaches.

Dennis Williams
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I cannot find a definitive definition of these two terms on metalink. Can
these terms be used interchangeably or is there a difference?

Thanks
Erik

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Re: RE: Meaning of V$WAITSTAT statistics

2001-10-02 Thread Cyril Thankappan



Hello

 Can you please clarify the relation
 between 'save undo headers' and Billy Graham.

 If making a joke out of what is 'unplatable'
 or 'inconvenient' to believe is comforting you
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Snapshots and DBlink on different version of database

2001-10-02 Thread Kishore

Hello Everybody

I am here with a question, please help.

I am running 7.3.4.4 on our two different departments
and  sales deaprtment runs dblink and snapshots to
refresh from the central department. Both department
running 7.3.4.4

Core Central department upgrading the database to
8.1.7.

Now, my question is

Sales department database version will be 7.3.4.4
Central department database version will be 8.1.7


Will sales department's snapshots and dblink work as
before, or they will not work at all; or we need to
drop and recrete in order to get them work???


Please help

Thank you  all very much

I will be waiting for the answer

Thanks again

Kishore


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Re: Extents size.

2001-10-02 Thread Steve Smith

Yea - I keep hearing and seeing tests that show that the number of extents
had no bearing on performance (up to a point).  It just 'bothers' me to see
a 500 or 1200 or 2000 extents on a table.. grin

Here is a question - is there any situation that having only 1 big extent
would reduce performance?

Steve

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 well, only when you are deleting massive amounts of data or truncating
 with drop storage.. then there is an impact because of the hits on the
 dictionary tables.

 but basically yes... I've been told by various Oracle employees that up
 to 4096 extents cause no problem whatsoever.


 --- Christopher Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That is completely a myth.  There is no notable performance different
  with a
  table with 10,000 extents and one with 1.
 
  The only problem is when it comes to the bitmaps when dealing with
  LMT and
  cluster when dealing with dictionary managed.  When you query the
  extent
  views, or do space management type processes.
 
  Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes,
  that way
  when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.
 
  Christopher R. Spence
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  Fax:(707) 885-2275
 
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  North, Chelmsford 01863
 
 
 
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  May be it is good practice to keep number of extents to be less than
  50, no
  matter what the size of extent.
 
 
 
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  Hello,
 
  I'll do an reorganization of a database (about 140 gigs). Some people
  say
  that it'd be good to use 128K, 4M and 128M extents. I saw somewhere
  it'd be
  160K, 4M and 160M. Which size do you advice me ? I have also many
  small
  indexes (less than 16K).
 
  Regards,
 
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Re: oem job fails..

2001-10-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael

that's not an oem problem per se... but is related to the fact that you
are trying to update a row or table that is already in use

review the updates and order of updates you are making. Is anything
else running at that time?


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 While running a job(with lot of updates)in oem i get this error:
 
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 data base is 8.1.7 on NT.
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Re: HOTBACKUP issue !!

2001-10-02 Thread Jeremiah Wilton

On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Dash, Saroj  (CAP,CEF) wrote:

 When you take begin back up of tablespace what exactly oracle does
 internally.

 what happen the transcation in that period.

Check out my hot backup article.

http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton/hot-backup.html

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RE: Repost: Nested loop in PL/SQL

2001-10-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Jun,

What exactly do you mean that it doesn't work after the first inner loop?

One thing you should do is close and open the inner cursor after the inner
loop completes.

Are you sure the outer loop returns more than one row?

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Sorry, I meant to say doesn't work.

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Could anyone tell me why following nested loop does work? It stopped after
inner loop finished. I tried for loop, it worked ok.

Thanks,

Jun

declare v_plan_id number;
v_channel_id pricing_plan.channel_id%TYPE;
v_row pricing_plan%ROWTYPE;
cursor plan_id is
select distinct pricing_Plan_id from pricing_plan
where CHANNEL_ID = 'GROUP19'
and promotion_cd = 'INFO'
and trunc(end_date) = trunc(sysdate)
and p_mode = 'LIVE'
group by PRICING_PLAN_ID;

cursor channel_id is
select  distinct channel_id  from pricing_plan
where CHANNEL_ID not in ('GROUP1','GROUP2', 'GROUP3')
and transaction_type = 'REGISTRATION'
order by channel_id;


begin
open plan_id;
open channel_id;
loop
fetch plan_id into v_plan_id;
exit when plan_id%NOTFOUND;

loop
fetch channel_id into v_channel_id;
exit when channel_id%NOTFOUND;

select * into v_row
from pricing_plan 
where PRICING_PLAN_ID = 1;

dbms_output.put_line(v_row.price_cd);

end loop;
end loop;
close plan_id;
close channel_id;
end;
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Loadjava utility

2001-10-02 Thread Beatriz Martínez Jiménez

Hello all,
I want to load in ther server two jar files, through the loadjava
utility. But, where should be this files physically stored? Should they
be in any folder under ORACLE_HOME directory?
A lot of thanks in advance


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Re: Extents size.

2001-10-02 Thread Jared . Still



Yes.  If you need to do parallel query, multiple
extents may help you out a bit.

Jared




   
 
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Yea - I keep hearing and seeing tests that show that the number of extents
had no bearing on performance (up to a point).  It just 'bothers' me to see
a 500 or 1200 or 2000 extents on a table.. grin

Here is a question - is there any situation that having only 1 big extent
would reduce performance?

Steve

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 well, only when you are deleting massive amounts of data or truncating
 with drop storage.. then there is an impact because of the hits on the
 dictionary tables.

 but basically yes... I've been told by various Oracle employees that up
 to 4096 extents cause no problem whatsoever.


 --- Christopher Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That is completely a myth.  There is no notable performance different
  with a
  table with 10,000 extents and one with 1.
 
  The only problem is when it comes to the bitmaps when dealing with
  LMT and
  cluster when dealing with dictionary managed.  When you query the
  extent
  views, or do space management type processes.
 
  Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes,
  that way
  when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.
 
  Christopher R. Spence
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  Fax:(707) 885-2275
 
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  May be it is good practice to keep number of extents to be less than
  50, no
  matter what the size of extent.
 
 
 
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  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:35 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  Hello,
 
  I'll do an reorganization of a database (about 140 gigs). Some people
  say
  that it'd be good to use 128K, 4M and 128M extents. I saw somewhere
  it'd be
  160K, 4M and 160M. Which size do you advice me ? I have also many
  small
  indexes (less than 16K).
 
  Regards,
 
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RE: Hot Backup Issue

2001-10-02 Thread Jeremiah Wilton

On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Ron Rogers wrote:

 Some reasons why NOT to put all tablespaces in the backup mode at
 once (step 1) is that the tranactions against the database could
 create a lot of redo and archive logs that could fill the space,
 tranaction time could be longer as it now reads the redo not the
 tables

What reads the redo?  I don't think you have to read the redo during
hot backup mode.  You read the datafiles or buffer cache just like
when you're not in backup mode.

 Snapshot to old could occur

Why?  I can think of no reason that ORA-1555 should be more likely
during hot backup mode.  Can you explain this?

 If there is a problem and the server restarts Oracle will not start
 tablespaces in the backup mode you have to manually issue the
 tablespace normal command.

Do you mean 'alter database datafile n end backup?'  This can and
should just be integrated into the database start scripts.

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SID Environment Variable

2001-10-02 Thread Post, Ethan

I am trying to find an environment variable that returns the current
session's SID.  I see things like ora_login_user but can't find anything SID
related.  Basically I want to take a statspack snapshot using the SID of the
current session. - E

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Re: pl/sql question

2001-10-02 Thread DBarbour


Yep - here's an example.  There is really a whole lot more that goes with
this, but I've included the pertinent portions so you can get an idea.
Hope this helps.

SET DEFINE OFF;

CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE Student_Course_Report(

fromSchool  varchar2,
toSchoolvarchar2,
fromCourse  varchar2,
toCoursevarchar2)

AS

schoolWhereClause   varchar2(250);
courseWhereClause   varchar2(250);


TYPE RefCurType IS REF CURSOR;
schoolCur   RefCurType;

v_schoolnum  varchar2(3);
v_schoolnamevarchar2(35);
   ACRSVar varchar2(13);

BEGIN

IF fromSchool = 'All Schools' THEN

   schoolWhereClause:= ' Where schoolnum
not in ( ' ||  || '800' ||  ||
' , ' ||  || 'D01' ||  || ')
Order by schoolnum';

END IF;

OPEN schoolCur for
   'Select schoolnum, name
   From sasi.asch ' ||
   schoolWhereClause;

   LOOP
 Fetch schoolCur into v_schoolnum, v_schoolname;
   EXIT WHEN schoolCur%NOTFOUND;

 ACRSVar:= 'sasi.ACRS1'||v_schoolnum;

OPEN courseCur for
  'Select statecrs1, title, course
   From ' || ACRSVar ||
   courseWhereClause;

   LOOP
 Fetch coursecur into v_statecrs1, v_title,
v_course;
   EXIT WHEN courseCur%NOTFOUND;



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Can I somehow use a variable for the table name in a cursor select?

Here is the example:

--Declaration Section

 sSrcTableName  VARCHAR2(50)   := iFeedNm||'_1_1_'
||TO_CHAR(SYSDATE,'YYMMDD')||'_SRC';

 --cursor for tmo daily source records
 CURSOR cTMODaily IS
  SELECT*
  FROM   sSrcTableName;

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Re[2]: For i (Select..)

2001-10-02 Thread Csillag Zsolt


Thank you very much.
Your answers explained everything about explicit and implicit cursors.

At 07:00 2001.10.02. -0800, you wrote:
You can do all three, but if you do not declare it you can't use the 'for 
update
of' clause. Of course the 'for i in ()loop' does replace a lot of lines of 
code.

Dick Goulet

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You can also use the for loop - end loop with explicit cursors..  You don't
have to define the cursor in the loop itself..  That is my preferred method
(defining the cursor in the declare section and referencing it in the for
loop)..  There really isn't any more work defining the cursor up front and
then using the for loop as there is using the for loop and defining the
cursor in the loop..

Steve

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  If you only use a cursor in this manner, the only place that the cursor
can
  be used is in the particular For Loop in which it is defined - it can't be
  shared by other procedures or functions.
 
  If you design and create packaged public cursors, they can be reused from
  other stored procedures and/or client side programs.
 
  Code reuse is just one advantage.  When table structures change - as they
  invariably do - you have only a few cursors to change, instead of a
  bazillion Cursor For Loops.  Also, you can more easily tune a few public
  cursors.
 
  I'd also recommend passing in Table%RowType arguments to your public
cursors
  and specifying that they return Table%RowType records.  That further
  isolates your code from table changes.
 
  Jack
 

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Slightly OT : IFS Search is Slow.

2001-10-02 Thread Raj Gopalan

Hi

We are using IFS 1.1 version on HP UX.  Large number of   XMl documents are
loaded into IFS ( around 5.5 gb of table space occupied).

Our req. is , given a file name , we need to lookup for the same in IFS
repository and load it if exists. Search is based on file name ( attribute
search) not file contents ( content search) .


The  following is the function we have wriiten to search
 
 public String  ifsDocSearch(String name, String path, String owner)throws
Exception
{
  FolderRestrictQualification frq = new FolderRestrictQualification();
  FolderPathResolver fpr = new FolderPathResolver(ifsSession);
  fpr.setRootFolder();
  Folder startFolder = (Folder) fpr.findPublicObjectByPath(path);
  frq.setStartFolder(startFolder);
  AttributeQualification aq = new AttributeQualification();
  aq.setAttribute(oracle.ifs.beans.Document.CLASS_NAME,NAME);
  aq.setOperatorType(aq.EQUAL);
  aq.setValue(name);
  AttributeQualification aq1 = new AttributeQualification();
 
aq1.setAttribute(oracle.ifs.beans.Document.OWNER_ATTRIBUTE,oracle.ifs.beans.
Document.OWNER_ATTRIBUTE);
  aq1.setOperatorType(aq.EQUAL);
  aq1.setValue(owner);
 
  String arr[]= new String[2];
  arr[0]=DOCUMENT;
  arr[1]=FOLDER;
  SearchClassSpecification  scs=new SearchClassSpecification(arr);
  AttributeSearchSpecification ass = new AttributeSearchSpecification();
  ass.setSearchClassSpecification(scs);
  SearchClause sc  = new SearchClause(aq, frq, SearchClause.AND);
  SearchClause sc1 = new SearchClause(sc, aq1, SearchClause.AND);
  ass.setSearchQualification(sc);
  Search s = new Search(this.ifsSession,ass);
  s.setSearchSpecification(ass);
  s.open();
  SearchResultObject sro=s.getItems(0);
  if(sro==null)
  {
  System.out.println(sro is null);
  return null;
  }
   oracle.ifs.beans.Document myDoc = (oracle.ifs.beans.Document)
sro.getLibraryObject();
   if(myDoc == null)
   {
  System.out.println(my doc is  null);
  return null;
   }
   vxweb.vxhelper.VxDebug.timer(File IO);
 
   StringBuffer   sb = new StringBuffer();
BufferedReader bufferedReader =
new BufferedReader(myDoc.getContentReader());
for (String l_nextLine = bufferedReader.readLine();
l_nextLine != null;
l_nextLine = bufferedReader.readLine()) {
sb.append(l_nextLine);
sb.append(\n);
}
vxweb.vxhelper.VxDebug.timer(File IO);
System.out.println(sb);
return sb.toString();
}

 
The search seems to be slower. it takes around 2-4 sec. - 

Is there any way this can be tuned better for faster searching?
 
do we need to create any indexes file names in IFS schema ?
 
Other Info :  processing mode :MTS
  table space for ifs :  localymanaged


Thanks in Advance

Raj 
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Re:RE: Extents size.

2001-10-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael

something along those lines...

as with everything there is no real black or white on this... but
transactional systems that do a lot of small (non-sequential) reads you
are better off with lots of extents while data warehouses are often
better off with fewer extents as the reads tend to be sequential or
full table scans so you would want more of the data together

as for those little bitty extents -- you mean you aren't using
tablespaces with a single extent size so you don't have to worry about
them?


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Back in the V6 days it was a desired characteristic to have every
 thing in the
 first extent of an object for performance reasons.  Thankfully those
 days are
 gone and it really does not matter how many extents there are. 
 Rachel has a
 presentation on Oracle Myths where she actually portrays having
 multiple extents
 as a good thing from an IO perspective (Rachel, correct me if I got
 this wrong).
  Although I can't give you exact examples, take a look and 
 v$filestat.  I've found that tablespaces where there are more than
 one extent in
 the objects have a lower average io wait time that those where
 everything is in
 the first extent.
 
 The only real good reason I have found for re-organizing a tablespace
 is to get
 all of the used extents at one end and all of the free extents (you
 know those
 little bitty ones that individually aren't worth the trouble, but
 together!!) at
 the other end.
 
 Dick Goulet
 Reply Separator
 Author: Christopher Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   10/2/2001 7:55 AM
 
 That is completely a myth.  There is no notable performance different
 with a
 table with 10,000 extents and one with 1. 
 
 The only problem is when it comes to the bitmaps when dealing with
 LMT and
 cluster when dealing with dictionary managed.  When you query the
 extent
 views, or do space management type processes.
 
 Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes,
 that way
 when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.
 
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 Oracle DBA
 Phone: (978) 322-5744
 Fax:(707) 885-2275
 
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 May be it is good practice to keep number of extents to be less than
 50, no
 matter what the size of extent.
 
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:35 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I'll do an reorganization of a database (about 140 gigs). Some people
 say
 that it'd be good to use 128K, 4M and 128M extents. I saw somewhere
 it'd be
 160K, 4M and 160M. Which size do you advice me ? I have also many
 small
 indexes (less than 16K).
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: SANPSHOT TECHNOLGIES ON WINDIWS 2000 CLUSTER SYSTEMS

2001-10-02 Thread Don Granaman

I have designed systems on Sun Solaris Cluster (1.2 and 2.2) with OPS (7.3.x and
8.1.x) that used EMC snapshots (BCVs and SRDF), but not Windows 2000 clusters,
DELL, or HP.  Those used BCVs for backups of OPS databases and worked well.
Since the EMC snapshot was performed at a layer common to all nodes (the
Symmetrix), there was no issue of synchronizing host write activity - a track
modification is a track modification, no matter which host it comes from.  If
the snapshot mechanism is at the host level, one would need to be concerned
about how writes from distinct hosts in an OPS cluster are managed/coordinated.
In this context, the considerations for RAC are identical to those for OPS.

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   hi  ,
   We have been studiyng about a project which is include Oracle Real
 Application Clusters on Windows 2000 Cluster  System.
   And Our hardware vendors present to us snapshot technology on their
 storage systems .We have orginized two meeting with DELL and HP vendores and
 they said to us that  they could present to us snapshot tech. and We could
 usathis snapshots as  consistent oracle  backups. But I am not sure about
 this.
   Is there any body who has oracle or Oracle Parallel Server or 9i RAC and
 this kind of storage systems.
I need advice and expre?nced info aabout this sunbject.


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Re: find out ip

2001-10-02 Thread satar naghshineh

netstat -in

Will also tell you if there are any other assigned ip
addresses to that server, for example in a cluster
configuiration.

Regards,
Satar
 
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 How to find out a server (solaris) IP address, that
 I logged in . 
 Any command ?
 
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RE: Loadjava utility

2001-10-02 Thread Christopher Spence

Doesn't matter, they get loaded into the java tables as lobs.
 
As long as the loadjava command has access to the file when you run it.
You can then delete the files if you so choice.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Fax:(707) 885-2275

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Hello all,
I want to load in ther server two jar files, through the loadjava
utility. But, where should be this files physically stored? Should they
be in any folder under ORACLE_HOME directory?
A lot of thanks in advance
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RE: Migration v. Upgrade

2001-10-02 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

Migrating is the process of transforming one database version to a later
database version. Oracle 7 to Oracle 8
is migration.

Upgrading is the process of transforming one database release to another
database release of the same database
version.  Oracle 8.0.1 to 8.0.5 is upgrading database.

HTH
Rick

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Erik - I believe the upgrade / recovery manual will have the more concise
definition you seek. Look for the Oracle version you are on and the one you
want to move to and it will tell you whether you need to upgrade or migrate.
With an upgrade you usually just bring up the new version and run some
procedures to modify your system tables. With migrate it is much more
involved. To put things concisely:
   upgrade - good
   migrate - bad
upgrade - minor, easy.
migrate - hard, difficult, headaches.

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I cannot find a definitive definition of these two terms on metalink. Can
these terms be used interchangeably or is there a difference?

Thanks
Erik

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Problems with patchsets to 8.1.7.0.0 on Windows 2000

2001-10-02 Thread Don Granaman

I have Oracle 8.1.7.0.0 running on a Windows 2000 Pro (sp2).  I tried to install
the 8.1.7.2.1 patchset according to the readme directions (shutdown all
Oracle* services first, etc.), but when I try to run setup.exe, nothing
happens.  The icon flashes momentarily after being double-clicked, but nothing
ever actually runs.  I tried it a number of times.  Then I tried it with an
older 8.1.7.1.1 patchset - and the exactly same thing happened.  These patchsets
are for Windows NT, but I assumed they would work for 2000 as well.  (Am I
wrong in this assumption?)  Does anyone have any experience with this and/or
workarounds?

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RE: Repost: Nested loop in PL/SQL

2001-10-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Jun the corrected code should be ... assuming you want to process channel_id
for each row of pla_id.


declare v_plan_id number;
v_channel_id pricing_plan.channel_id%TYPE;
v_row pricing_plan%ROWTYPE;
cursor plan_id is
select distinct pricing_Plan_id from pricing_plan
where CHANNEL_ID = 'GROUP19'
and promotion_cd = 'INFO'
and trunc(end_date) = trunc(sysdate)
and p_mode = 'LIVE'
group by PRICING_PLAN_ID;

cursor channel_id is
select  distinct channel_id  from pricing_plan
where CHANNEL_ID not in ('GROUP1','GROUP2', 'GROUP3')
and transaction_type = 'REGISTRATION'
order by channel_id;


begin
open plan_id;
loop
fetch plan_id into v_plan_id;
exit when plan_id%NOTFOUND;
open channel_id;  -- note this line 
loop
fetch channel_id into v_channel_id;
exit when channel_id%NOTFOUND;

select * into v_row
from pricing_plan 
where PRICING_PLAN_ID = 1;

dbms_output.put_line(v_row.price_cd);

end loop;
close channel_id;-- note this line 
end loop;
close plan_id;
end;
/

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Re: Repost: Nested loop in PL/SQL

2001-10-02 Thread DBarbour


The reasons this doesn't work are fairly numerous.  What is it you're
trying to accomplish here?  Perhaps if you could explain your requirement,
somebody could help you out.  I'm quite surprised you were able to get a
version of this to compile and run even if you did use a 'FOR' loop.  Is it
possible we're not seeing all the code?


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Could anyone tell me why following nested loop does work? It stopped after
inner loop finished. I tried for loop, it worked ok.

Thanks,

Jun

declare v_plan_id number;
v_channel_id pricing_plan.channel_id%TYPE;
v_row pricing_plan%ROWTYPE;
cursor plan_id is
select distinct pricing_Plan_id from pricing_plan
where CHANNEL_ID = 'GROUP19'
and promotion_cd = 'INFO'
and trunc(end_date) = trunc(sysdate)
and p_mode = 'LIVE'
group by PRICING_PLAN_ID;

cursor channel_id is
select  distinct channel_id  from pricing_plan
where CHANNEL_ID not in ('GROUP1','GROUP2', 'GROUP3')
and transaction_type = 'REGISTRATION'
order by channel_id;


begin
open plan_id;
open channel_id;
loop
fetch plan_id into v_plan_id;
exit when plan_id%NOTFOUND;

loop
fetch channel_id into v_channel_id;
exit when channel_id%NOTFOUND;

select * into v_row
from pricing_plan
where PRICING_PLAN_ID = 1;

dbms_output.put_line(v_row.price_cd);

end loop;
end loop;
close plan_id;
close channel_id;
end;
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Oracle - SQL Server

2001-10-02 Thread Christopher Spence
Title: Oracle - SQL Server





I know there is a way in SQL server to query oracle tables, is there a way to do the reverse?


I am looking at trying to create access from an Oracle DB to SQL Server data until we convert the SQL server database.

Anyone have any ideas on this, I searched technet (ms/oracle) and metalink, as well as some search engines without luck.


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2001-10-02 Thread Grabowy, Chris

SELECT s.study_id, s.status, sp.status
FROM s, sp
WHERE s.study_id = 5014
AND   s.study_id = sp.study_id(+)
AND   s.status   = 'A'
AND   sp.status  = 'A'

I'm stuck trying to figure out how to make this SQL work, and am starting to
wonder if it's even possible.

I'm trying to get this SQL to return rows from the S table even if there are
records in the SP table with status of 'D'(logically deleted).

What am I missing??!?!?!?

TIA

Chris

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Re: Background jobs inUnix

2001-10-02 Thread satar naghshineh

That's fine, but I would look into using the nohup
command to solve error issues and to report any
errors.

Regards,
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 solaris.
 
 $ compress /u01/dmps/zvr_dd.dmp 
 
  is this harmful ?  (like killing the running jobs)
 
 
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Re: Meaning of V$WAITSTAT statistics

2001-10-02 Thread Greg Moore

 From the performance perspective, you can safely
 ignore the save undo statistics.

Anyone know where I can find a list of the v$sysstat, v$system_event and
v$session_wait items I can safely ignore?


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RE: RE: Meaning of V$WAITSTAT statistics

2001-10-02 Thread Gogala, Mladen

I didn't mean to offend anyone and I apologize if I did so.
By the way, it's spelled unpalatable and not unplatable.

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  Can you please clarify the relation
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RE: control file contents

2001-10-02 Thread John Kanagaraj

Guy,

I assume the database involved in 8.0 or higher :)  Starting 8.0, the
control files retain the list of archive logs in addition to recording both
the list of database and redolog files. In fact, I found that it retains a
list of backup controlfiles too... The list size for archive logs seems to
be controlled by a combination of the init parameter
'control_file_record_keep_time' and the MAXLOGHISTORY. I haven't been able
to test this, but if select count(*) from v$log_history is less than
MAXLOGHISTORY, then I am willing to bet that you will see a list of all
archive logs since database create...

Nice to reply to a question from you after a long time!

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Hello,

Out of curiosity just now, I ran strings on a backup of my control
file. In it, there are lots of repeated references to archive log files
- there are groups log file names, and the same name might appear in
multiple groups. Is this a list of the redo logs that you would need to
recover the database from the time of the previous backup to the time
that the control file was written? Because, looking in my archive log
destination, these are a lot older than the last hot backup. 

Cheers,

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RE: pl/sql question

2001-10-02 Thread Jared . Still



Or use a cursor variable.

Jared



   
 
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Can I somehow use a variable for the table name in a cursor select?

Here is the example:

--Declaration Section

 sSrcTableName  VARCHAR2(50)   := iFeedNm||'_1_1_'
||TO_CHAR(SYSDATE,'YYMMDD')||'_SRC';

 --cursor for tmo daily source records
 CURSOR cTMODaily IS
  SELECT*
  FROM   sSrcTableName;

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RE: Oracle - SQL Server

2001-10-02 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)
Title: Oracle -> SQL Server



I have 
not used it but Oracle Transparent Gateway can query against a SQL Server 
database. This is a very expensive product.

Rick

  -Original Message-From: Christopher Spence 
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  Oracle - SQL Server
  I know there is a way in SQL server to 
  query oracle tables, is there a way to do the reverse?
  I am looking at trying to create access from an Oracle 
  DB to SQL Server data until we convert the SQL server database.
  Anyone have any ideas on this, I 
  searched technet (ms/oracle) and metalink, as well as some search engines 
  without luck.
  "Do not criticize someone until you walked 
  a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way 
  and have their shoes."
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RE: Problems with patchsets to 8.1.7.0.0 on Windows 2000

2001-10-02 Thread Yexley Robert D SSgt AFIT/SCA

I had that same problem with it.  I ended up getting it to work OK when I
navigated into the directory structure that the zip file creates (or on CD,
whichever you're running it from) into patch_base\install\win32\setup.exe
and ran it from there.  This actually runs the OUI instead of the
unnecessary little autorun executable that they put in the root directory.
Try that, I think that will work for you.

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I have Oracle 8.1.7.0.0 running on a Windows 2000 Pro (sp2).  I tried to
install
the 8.1.7.2.1 patchset according to the readme directions (shutdown all
Oracle* services first, etc.), but when I try to run setup.exe, nothing
happens.  The icon flashes momentarily after being double-clicked, but
nothing
ever actually runs.  I tried it a number of times.  Then I tried it with an
older 8.1.7.1.1 patchset - and the exactly same thing happened.  These
patchsets
are for Windows NT, but I assumed they would work for 2000 as well.  (Am I
wrong in this assumption?)  Does anyone have any experience with this and/or
workarounds?

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Never mind - please ignore

2001-10-02 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Never mind - please ignore.  Sorry for bothering.  Brain fart.

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To: Fatcity's Oracle ListServ 


SELECT s.study_id, s.status, sp.status
FROM s, sp
WHERE s.study_id = 5014
AND   s.study_id = sp.study_id(+)
AND   s.status   = 'A'
AND   sp.status  = 'A'

I'm stuck trying to figure out how to make this SQL work, and am starting to
wonder if it's even possible.

I'm trying to get this SQL to return rows from the S table even if there are
records in the SP table with status of 'D'(logically deleted).

What am I missing??!?!?!?

TIA

Chris

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RE: Repost: Nested loop in PL/SQL

2001-10-02 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

Part of the code must be missing because plan_id cursor is being
open/fetched but NOTHING done with it.

Rick

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The reasons this doesn't work are fairly numerous.  What is it you're
trying to accomplish here?  Perhaps if you could explain your requirement,
somebody could help you out.  I'm quite surprised you were able to get a
version of this to compile and run even if you did use a 'FOR' loop.  Is it
possible we're not seeing all the code?


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Could anyone tell me why following nested loop does work? It stopped after
inner loop finished. I tried for loop, it worked ok.

Thanks,

Jun

declare v_plan_id number;
v_channel_id pricing_plan.channel_id%TYPE;
v_row pricing_plan%ROWTYPE;
cursor plan_id is
select distinct pricing_Plan_id from pricing_plan
where CHANNEL_ID = 'GROUP19'
and promotion_cd = 'INFO'
and trunc(end_date) = trunc(sysdate)
and p_mode = 'LIVE'
group by PRICING_PLAN_ID;

cursor channel_id is
select  distinct channel_id  from pricing_plan
where CHANNEL_ID not in ('GROUP1','GROUP2', 'GROUP3')
and transaction_type = 'REGISTRATION'
order by channel_id;


begin
open plan_id;
open channel_id;
loop
fetch plan_id into v_plan_id;
exit when plan_id%NOTFOUND;

loop
fetch channel_id into v_channel_id;
exit when channel_id%NOTFOUND;

select * into v_row
from pricing_plan
where PRICING_PLAN_ID = 1;

dbms_output.put_line(v_row.price_cd);

end loop;
end loop;
close plan_id;
close channel_id;
end;
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interesting problem with jdbc

2001-10-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Okay, I'll preface this by saying we did find a work around but this
was strange and I wondered if any of you had run into this.

Background:

two 8.1.6.0 databases, one is Solaris 2.8 32 bit and the other is
Solaris 2.6

the local database is on the 2.8 machine, call it users
the remote database is on the 2.6 machine, call it compdata

Public database link from users to compdata

private synonym events for events@compdata in the users database.

log into sqlplus, select * from events where id=# works fine

via the java program  jdbc 1.1, select * from events where id=#
returns the first row you selected, no matter what id you subsequently
give it. So id=4 as the first selected means that whatever id you now
give it, it will return the data from id 4.

drop the public synonym, create a copy of the events table on users.

sqlplus AND the program run fine

go back to the synonym across the link and the program blows up,
sqlplus  is fine (at least it's consistent)

change the program code to 

select * from events@compdata  

and the program is fine

so something is wrong not with the database, but with java settings, or
jdbc drivers (1.1) or ?  

All other accesses with other links between the two databases are fine.

The only other thing we could think of was that that program runs on an
app server with an older version of WebSphere.

Any ideas on what would cause this?  As I said, we have a work around
(hard-code the link) but I'd like not to have to do that

Rachel

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Migration Workbench

2001-10-02 Thread Brian King

When using the Oracle Migration Workbench in Oracle 8.1.7, the SQL Server 7
Source Model generates 6 errors. I then fix those errors and generate the
model again. The problem I have is when I actually Migrate to Oracle.
This procedure generates 69 errors. How can these errors be fixed? Am I
doing something wrong? These errors occur on everything (indexes,
procedures, tables, packages, etc.).

Thanks,

Brian

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Slightly OT: Perl and PL/SQL Cursor Question

2001-10-02 Thread mohammed bhatti

In PL/SQL, if I need to know if I've fetched the last
row, I can do this:
IF recCursor%NOTFOUND THEN
   ...
   ...
END IF;

How would I do this in Perl?  Looking at the DBI docs,
there does not seem to be a similar method.  It
suggests doing a COUNT(*) or possibly use the
following:
$hash_ref = $sth-fetchall_hashref('id');

So, any similar functionality to %NOTFOUND in Perl?

tia

mkb

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RE:

2001-10-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Ron,

An outer join on sp.status will only return records from s if no records
exist in the sp table.

If a record exists in the sp table, it HAS to be a value of 'A'.

I suggest he drop the 'and' clause altogether.

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You need the outer join on sp.status as well

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SELECT s.study_id, s.status, sp.status
FROM s, sp
WHERE s.study_id = 5014
AND   s.study_id = sp.study_id(+)
AND   s.status   = 'A'
AND   sp.status(+)  = 'A'   -- outer join here as well


What am I missing??!?!?!?

TIA

Chris

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RE: oem job fails..solved

2001-10-02 Thread Sunil_Nookala

I found out the session which kept the table locked.
killed it, jobs run fine now.
thanks for help.

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that's not an oem problem per se... but is related to the fact that you
are trying to update a row or table that is already in use

review the updates and order of updates you are making. Is anything
else running at that time?


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 While running a job(with lot of updates)in oem i get this error:
 
 ORA-00054: resource busy and acquire with NOWAIT specified.
 
 data base is 8.1.7 on NT.
 please help me how to fix it.
 
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RE: Problems with patchsets to 8.1.7.0.0 on Windows 2000

2001-10-02 Thread Christopher Spence

Same problem, go into the install directory and Win32 I think it was, the
install works fine from there. 

Just shear luck I just setup two Win2000 boxes in my lab for Replication,
heh.

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when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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I have Oracle 8.1.7.0.0 running on a Windows 2000 Pro (sp2).  I tried to
install
the 8.1.7.2.1 patchset according to the readme directions (shutdown all
Oracle* services first, etc.), but when I try to run setup.exe, nothing
happens.  The icon flashes momentarily after being double-clicked, but
nothing
ever actually runs.  I tried it a number of times.  Then I tried it with an
older 8.1.7.1.1 patchset - and the exactly same thing happened.  These
patchsets
are for Windows NT, but I assumed they would work for 2000 as well.  (Am I
wrong in this assumption?)  Does anyone have any experience with this and/or
workarounds?

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