Serial# changes when rolling back

2001-12-11 Thread Hallas John
Title: Serial# changes when rolling back 





Jared,Deepak
I did not see a reply on this. From a brief experiment I don't see the serial# changing when rolling back a transaction.

The code posted by Jared certainly works as the number of blocks to rollback reduces as the job nears completion.
If the serial# changes I would be interetsed to understand why and to what purpose


John
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Hi Jared


why does the serial# have to change due to rollback?
lots of us would be curious for a brief expln ...


Thx
Deepak
--- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The session is rolling back, you can't kill it.
 
 This is why the serial# is changing.
 
 The following query can be used to track its
 progress.
 
 select s.osuser
 ,s.username
 ,s.sid
 ,r.segment_name
 ,t.space
 ,t.recursive
 ,t.noundo
 ,t.used_ublk
 ,t.used_urec
 ,t.log_io
 ,t.phy_io
 ,substr(sa.sql_text,1,200) txt
 from v$session s,
 v$transaction t,
 dba_rollback_segs r,
 v$sqlarea sa
 where s.taddr=t.addr
 and t.xidusn=r.segment_id(+)
 and s.sql_address=sa.address(+);
 
 Jared
 
 
 On Sunday 02 December 2001 22:55, Tatireddy,
 Shrinivas (MED, Keane) wrote:
  Hi lists,
 
  Solaris 2.7
  oracle 8i
 
  I have a session SYSTEM doing import into a
 table. (logged into server
  thru telnet from win 98 PC)
 
  Suddenly the power outage occurred to my PC.
 
  When I logged into the server thru telnet, I found
 that the session is
  active.
  By mistake, I killed the process at o/s level.
 
  For somereasons,I tried to drop the table. But I
 failed to do it, as it
  is locked by import process.
 
  I tried to kill the user SYSTEM. But the oracle
 is giving error that
  there is not user with such sid and serial number.
 
  The serial# number is often getting changed when I
 query from v$session.
 
  Is there a way to kill this user, without shutting
 down the database.
 
  And why different serial# number each time, I
 query v$SESSION.?
 
  Any clues?
 
  Thnx and Regards,
 
  Srinivas
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RE: Duplexing Archived Log Files

2001-12-11 Thread Christian Trassens

Under 8.0.X you can use log_archive_duplex_dest. It is
also available on 8i. However, if you use
log_archive_dest_n on 8i, you cannot set
log_archive_duplex_dest. 

Similarly, on 9i, if you use log_archive_dest, you
could not set log_archive_dest_n.

Finally and regarding rman on 9i, you can configure
for backing up many copies of archives and datafiles
as you want. F.e.:

rmanconfigure archivelog backup copies for device
type disk to n;

Probably this is not what you are looking for, however
it is there if you wanna try

Regards.


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wrote:
 Dennis,
 
 We use
 
 log_archive_dest_1
 log_archive_dest_2
 
 sending a copy of each archived redo log to our
 Standby database
 (log_archive_dest_2).
 
 log_archive_dest_2 is used with the OPTIONAL
 parameter, since we don't want
 to stop archiving if the Standby is down or there's
 some problem with the
 LAN.
 
 We also have
 log_archive_min_succeed_dest = 1
 to make sure that the archiving succeeds at least to
 the local target drive
 (log_archive_dest_1).
 
 It's worked great for us (8.1.6.0.0 EE under Win2k).
 
 BTW, we use RMan for hot backups and like it very
 much.  We can also issue
 the Alter Tablespace Begin Backup command and get
 instantaneous results -
 which I had to do recently to restore some datafiles
 to the Standby after
 one of its disks failed.  I wonder why you get such
 slow response?
 
 Jack
 
 
 Jack C. Applewhite
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 OCP Oracle8 DBA
 iNetProfit, Inc.
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 WILLIAMS
 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:29 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Is anyone using the LOG_ARCHIVE_DUPLEX_DEST
 parameter? Any problems with it?
 
 We are on Oracle 8.1.6 on Compaq Tru64. On our ERP
 150-gig. database, we are
 currently doing a cold backup weekly. This means
 that we are very dependent
 on archive logs.
- Recovery time isn't a big concern. In the event
 of a failure, recovery
 time isn't that critical. Loss of a week of work
 would be.
- We have tried hot backups successfully on
 smaller databases, but we
 found that once we issue ALTER TABLESPACE BEGIN
 BACKUP there was often a
 delay of hours for that command to complete. So we
 gave up on hot backups.
- We are starting to work with RMAN and feel in
 the long run this will be
 an ideal solution. Thanks to everyone for answering
 my newby RMAN questions.
- Recently Oracle has added a feature to duplex
 the archive log files.
 This sounds like it would lessen our archive log
 vulnerability. However, it
 causes my sys admin more work, so I would appreciate
 some feedback before I
 add this burden to his work.
 Thanks for any thoughts you care to share.
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
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Re: Serial# changes when rolling back

2001-12-11 Thread hemantchitale

Check this Oracle Note :

   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
 Doc ID:   
  
 Note:1020545.102  
  
 Subject:  
  
 ORA-00026: CANNOT 
KILL SESSION; 
 SERIAL# KEEPS 
CHANGING  
 Type: 
  
 PROBLEM   
  
 Status:   
  
 PUBLISHED 
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
 Content Type: 
  
   TEXT/PLAIN  
  
 Creation Date:
  
   23-NOV-1999 
  
 Last Revision Date:   
  
   24-AUG-2000 
  
   
  
   
  
 Problem Description   
  
 ---   
  
   
  
 You have killed a 
process at
 the operating system 
level that 
 was   
  
 running a 
long-running  
 transaction.  Now, 
you are  
 trying to issue   
  
 the command:  
  
   
  
 alter system kill 
session   
 'sid, serial#';   
  
   
  
 To kill the 
associated Oracle   
 session, but you 
can't kill it. 
 You   
  
 may receive the 
following   
 error:
  
   
  
 ORA-00026:  
missing or  
  

RE: Database down

2001-12-11 Thread SARKAR, Samir

Or check whether u have a large pool too..reduce the large_pool_size 
parameter.

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There is not enough memory on the server to allocate the shared memory that
the init.ora requires. Make you shared_pool smaller and try again.

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Setting Expiry Date of User Password

2001-12-11 Thread Zinsmeister, Klaus {PTBF~Basel}

Hi List,

is there a possibility to set the expiry date of the password to a date ?

Background: After a migration to Oracle 8.0.6 we set the expire password option to all 
users but when the user logs on 
ORA-1841 ((full) year must be between -4713 and +, and not be 0

Only after the user change his/her password the error disappear.

Is there a solution for this problem ?


Klaus

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The Oracle List Archive?

2001-12-11 Thread Denham Eva
Title: The Oracle List Archive?





Hi,


Forgive the rather dumb newbie question.
However I regularly see people on this list refer to the archive.
How can I access this? I have poked around at fatcity.com and not found much help!


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Re: Database link

2001-12-11 Thread Witold Iwaniec

db_domain in init.ora is commented out in both cases. I also set it 
to:
db_domain = 

but it didn't make any difference.

Setting GLOBAL_NAMES to false helped but someone mentioned 
that it is not a good practice. Can anybody explain little bit why?

Thanks

Witold



On 10 Dec 2001 at 21:50, Nikunj Gupta wrote:

 Check for DB_DOMAIN..  in INIT.ORA
 else
 Set GLOBAL_NAMES to FALSE 
 ALTER SYSTEM SET GLOBAL_NAMES=FALSE;
 
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   Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:00 AM
   Subject: Database link
 
 
   Hi DBAs
 
 
   I have a problem with database links in one of the databases - the name of the 
link gets us.oracle.com appended to it.
 
 
   create database link test 
   connect to test_user identified by test_pwd using 'test_db'
 
 
   When I execute:
 
 
   select * from my_table@test 
 
 
   I get the ORA-02085 error message the the link test.us.oracle.com connects to test.
 
 
   When I execute:
   select * from global_name;
 
 
   in the target database the result is: 
 
 
   TEST
 
 
   but in the database where I created the link the database name has the suffix:
 
 
   NOVALIS.US.ORACLE.COM
 
 
   I have no problem with database links in the TEST database but would like to know 
which parameter causes the suffix to be appended in the NOVALIS database.
 
 
   In both init.ora files the global_names is set to true and db_domain is commented 
out. 
   In both databases the command 
   show parameters;
 
 
   returns the db_domain as blank.
 
 
   Actually both databases are on the same server - Oracle 8.1.6. 
 
 
   What should I change to remove the US.ORACLE.COM suffix. I don't care too much 
about the database, it's my test only, but don't want it appended in the links and 
maybe other objects...
 
 
   Thanks
 
 
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nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Sajid Iqbal

Hi

Anyone now which 2 V$ views can be accessed while in nomount mode ?

Also what is a tempfile ?

TIA

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DB Design and Views

2001-12-11 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi,

as I remember, it was always recommended to avoid the use of views upon
views upon views in the design of an Oracle DB (as for version 7/8),
since the optimizer might get confused.
Does that still apply ?
I'm supposed to give some guidelines to developers about the usage of
views.
My point of view is, that views should only be used to grant limited
access to tables in a schema (horizontal/vertical) or to
consolidate/pre-calculate data.

Any input ?

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RE: The Oracle List Archive?

2001-12-11 Thread Hallas John
Title: The Oracle List Archive?



Hi 
Eva,
Try 
the following link to access the archives. http://www.fatcity.com/ListGuru/login.php
I 
can't remember where you get the password from (I think it might be blank) - it 
validates on your e-mail address I believe

John

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Re: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread orantdba

Hi Saj,

I just tried at least 4 on 8.1.7

v$instance
v$sga
v$sgastat
v$parameter

There are probably more,  don't know where the two number is coming from.

John

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Hi

Anyone now which 2 V$ views can be accessed while in nomount mode ?

Also what is a tempfile ?

TIA

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RE: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: nomount





Is this some sort of OCP test for us listers??


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Hi


Anyone now which 2 V$ views can be accessed while in nomount mode ?


Also what is a tempfile ?


TIA


Saj Iqbal






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RE: DB Design and Views

2001-12-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Uh Oh ...

I have a forms application that is built on views that are built on views
that are built on views ... up to 5 levels deep. The fun part is we have to
go to CBO now ... and the tables underlying the views range from 10 rows
to 20M rows.

Talk about fun ...

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Re: Database link

2001-12-11 Thread Edward Shevtsov

Hi Witold,

if you use oracle replication you're limited to use global_name=true
I don't know any other restrictions.

Regards,
Ed

 db_domain in init.ora is commented out in both cases. I also set it 
 to:
 db_domain = 
 
 but it didn't make any difference.
 
 Setting GLOBAL_NAMES to false helped but someone mentioned 
 that it is not a good practice. Can anybody explain little bit why?
 
 Thanks
 
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RE: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Leith

lol looks like it eh?

I know that you can view v$instance while the database is not mounted - not
sure about the other one..

And - straight from the Oracle Concepts Manual (page 126)

Locally managed temporary tablespaces have temporary datafiles (tempfiles),
which
are similar to ordinary datafiles except that:

Tempfiles are always set to NOLOGGING mode.
You cannot make a tempfile read-only.
You cannot rename a tempfile.
You cannot create a tempfile with the ALTER DATABASE statement.
Media recovery does not recognize tempfiles:
 – BACKUP CONTROLFILE does not generate any information for tempfiles.
 – CREATE CONTROLFILE cannot specify any information about tempfiles.
Tempfile information is shown in the dictionary view DBA_TEMP_FILES and the
dynamic performance view V$TEMPFILE, but not in DBA_DATA_FILES or the
V$DATAFILE view.

Looks like I failed my OCP :P

Mark

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Is this some sort of OCP test for us listers??
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Hi
Anyone now which 2 V$ views can be accessed while in nomount mode ?
Also what is a tempfile ?
TIA
Saj Iqbal





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RMAN - archive log files

2001-12-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Must I have RMAN back up the archive log files?
We are at the delicate position of getting acquainted with RMAN. We
are using it but not yet ready to completely trust it, or rather trust that
our setup is entirely correct (we production DBAs tend to be a conservative
lot). We are just writing RMAN files to disk, no media manager.
Needless to say, we are getting the disadvantages of both methods.
In addition to the disk space taken up by the archive log files, I also have
the disk space taken up by the RMAN archive log files, so I have used twice
the amount of disk. 
If I didn't have RMAN store the archive log files, would it still be
able to perform a recovery? Would it just grab the existing log files off
disk? I'm thinking it must since it has to use some archive log files that
were created since RMAN last ran. Appreciate your insights.
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RE: RAID system max throughput

2001-12-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Thanks to everyone that shared their thoughts on this issue.

Steven - Thanks very much for your insight of throughput vs. latency. I
think this reduces the concepts to a simple enough level that I can explain
them to others. The system administrators also do our wide-area networks and
the focus tends to be on throughput, but they have also realized that
latency times can also produce poor performance.
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-- DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Whenever I discuss disk waits with my system administrator, I always get
 the reply that the RAID system isn't anywhere near its rated
 throughput. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see any of the tuning books
 mentioning that as a relevant performance characteristic. However, I've
 never been able to move the discussion beyond this point. Can anyone
 straighten me out on this point or point me to a resource that might be
 applicable.

 Our system is Oracle 8.1.6, Compaq Tru64. We use hardware RAID-5 with a
 battery-backed RAM cache, and have about 3 RAID sets (plus some extra
 disks for redo logs, etc.), and performance is fine, but I'm always
 looking as to how we can improve Oracle performance. The application is
 our corporate ERP system.

Two things will zap you on device I/O: bandwidth or latency.
Most people look at bandwidth -- same basic numbers for both
networking and disks. Latency is basically the turnaround time.

If you screw up the setup of any I/O system then latency can
reduce performance to the point where bandwidth is irrelevant.
By analogy, you can put concrete tires on a Porsche and go
nowhere also.

The real measure of what's going on starts at the O/S level
looking at the frequency and duration of proc's in a device
wait state (a.k.a. blocked for I/O) on the disks. If this
is minimal then forget it.

You can also end up with screwy results on large shared disk
systems due to competition. SAN's can get placed on overloaded
network segments; ERP's can easily get hot-spots from various
users colliding.

In general RAID5 with a stripe size == system I/O page will
perform rather nicely. If your system page sizes vary or
the raidset has an offball number of disks (e.g., 6 drives
for an 8K page) then you'll take a hit writing extra data
to maintain the RAID5 parity.


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Listeners listening to multiple IPs

2001-12-11 Thread Djordje Jankovic

Something I learned today, but haven't seen it documented anywhere and would
like to see whether anybody has come across it.

We have a Sun server (call it oracle.acme.com).  It came to life by
combining two machines (oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com).  So now it
has two IP addresses: hme0: x.y.z.001 - from oracle1 and hme1: x.y.z.002 -
from oracle2.  There are few databases there (some of them were on oracle1
some on oracle2) and one listener listening to all of them.

If you configure listener.ora file so that HOST=x.y.z.001, or HOST=x.y.z.002
that listener listens to that ONE IP only.  However, if you put
HOST=oracle.acme.com in listener.ora than it listens to all IPs (in netstat
-an you see that it is listening to *.1521 instead of to
oracle.acme.com.1521).  That would mean that oracle does not resolve DNS
at replaces it with IP but first checks whether this is the primary IP for
that box.  

So, once we have put HOST=oracle.acme.com, all the connections were OK
(coming from clients with tnsnames files that are pointing to old
oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com)  Of course DNS was changed..

Anybody has come across this undocumented feature ?  Any explanation to that
?

Djordje
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Re: DB Design and Views

2001-12-11 Thread Jared Still


Forget the optimizer, what about the developer?

This just doesn't seem like a good idea, or in
the words of Wayne Brady 'That is just wrong on
so many levels'.

Jared


On Tuesday 11 December 2001 04:30, Stefan Jahnke wrote:
 Hi,

 as I remember, it was always recommended to avoid the use of views upon
 views upon views in the design of an Oracle DB (as for version 7/8),
 since the optimizer might get confused.
 Does that still apply ?
 I'm supposed to give some guidelines to developers about the usage of
 views.
 My point of view is, that views should only be used to grant limited
 access to tables in a schema (horizontal/vertical) or to
 consolidate/pre-calculate data.

 Any input ?

 Regards,
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Re: select data using trigger

2001-12-11 Thread Jared Still


Hope I'm not being blunt here, ( I will admit to being frank, but not Frank )

What you're suggesting here is to put a patch on a bad design.

15 indexes?  That's too many.

Your table is undoubtedly highly denormalized and has too 
many columns.  How many columns does this table have?

You really need to take a step back and look at the design
of the data you are querying.

If this is really critical data ( Contracts?  Sounds critical ) then
strongly consider bringing in a consultant with strong data modeling
and database design experience to help you put this data in
a manageable form.

Or maybe you need to build a data mart and use partitioning?

This sounds to me like you need more consulting that you can
get from a few emails on a list server.

Jared



On Monday 10 December 2001 19:50, Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane) wrote:
 Hi lists,

 Can anybody help me...?

 Table CONTRACTS is accessed by many applications and has many selects
 hit this table. This table has 15 indexes.

 Still It needs some more indexes. But we were instructed to stop
 creating indexes.

 We have another table CONT2 in another schema. This table is copy of
 CONTRACTS.

 Is there a way to write a trigger on CONT2 for the following issue:

 if a particular select / select statement issued against CONTRACTS
 table, that query should select data from CONT2.

 (There is only one particular select statement that is more resource
 intensive. We need to divert that query to CONT2. As the applications
 are already tuned, we were not permitted to modify that code.)

 Thnx in advance,

 Srinivas
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Re: The Oracle List Archive?

2001-12-11 Thread Jared Still


No, the password is not blank.  You have to 
supply one the first time you use it.

Jared

On Tuesday 11 December 2001 05:00, you wrote:
 Hi Eva,
 Try the following link to access the archives.
 http://www.fatcity.com/ListGuru/login.php
 http://www.fatcity.com/ListGuru/login.php
 I can't remember where you get the password from (I think it might be
 blank) - it validates on your e-mail address I believe

 John

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 Hi,

 Forgive the rather dumb newbie question.
 However I regularly see people on this list refer to the archive.
 How can I access this? I have poked around at fatcity.com and not found
 much help!

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Re: query rewrite

2001-12-11 Thread Christian Trassens

Try with TIMESTAMP literal. Like this:

create materialized view mv_test
enable query rewrite
as 
select * from birthdays
where birth= timestamp '1971-05-03 09:00:00 PM' at
time zone 'Europe/London';

Regards.

--- elain he [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Does anyone know how can I create a materialized
 view for query rewrite on 
 the following query:
 
 select distinct parttable
 from
 emp where exists (select * from addr where
 ((addr.zip=24811)
 and emp.timestamp='11/23/2001') and emp.id=addr.id
 and emp.sn=addr.sn) order by emp.parttable;
 
 I tried creating a materialized view but it errored
 out on the 
 emp.timestamp='11/23/2001'.
 
 ORA-30353: expression not supported for query
 rewrite
 
 I created another materialized view without the
 'timestamp' and it got 
 created fine. ie
 select distinct parttable
 from
 emp where exists (select * from addr where
 ((addr.zip=24811))
 and emp.id=addr.id
 and emp.sn=addr.sn) order by emp.parttable;
 
 Now, when I try running the query below, Oracle does
 not do a query rewrite 
 but when I ran the query without referencing
 'timestamp', Oracle uses the 
 materialized view.
 
 The query below needs to reference the timestamp.
 How can I create the 
 materialized view to enable Oracle to utilize the
 materialized view whenever 
 the below query is ran?
 
 select distinct parttable
 from
 emp where exists (select * from addr where
 ((addr.zip=24811)
 and emp.timestamp='11/23/2001') and emp.id=addr.id
 and emp.sn=addr.sn) order by emp.parttable;
 
 thanks in advance for any assistance you can
 provide.
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RE: DB Design and Views

2001-12-11 Thread Kimberly Smith

I would avoid views based on view.  As well, I would avoid using views
where you will later turn around and throw a distinct or a group by
or anything else on it (especially if you are dealing with a lot of data).
Basically, You cannot be assured that the optimizer will pick the proper
path once the select is within a view and you do anything other then a
straight select on that.  I have seen it work fine and I have seen it
bring an application to a grinding halt.

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Hi,

as I remember, it was always recommended to avoid the use of views upon
views upon views in the design of an Oracle DB (as for version 7/8),
since the optimizer might get confused.
Does that still apply ?
I'm supposed to give some guidelines to developers about the usage of
views.
My point of view is, that views should only be used to grant limited
access to tables in a schema (horizontal/vertical) or to
consolidate/pre-calculate data.

Any input ?

Regards,
Stefan
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RE: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread David Ehresmann

v$parameter
v$sga
v$option
v$process
v$session
v$version
v$instance

nomount stage, right from my Oracle Admin book published by Oracle.

David Ehresmann
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 Hi
 
 Anyone now which 2 V$ views can be accessed while in nomount mode ?
 
 Also what is a tempfile ?
 
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Re: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Mujeeb Chowdhry



Hi,

Views that can be read in the nomount stage are: 
v$parameter, v$sga, v$option, v$process, v$session, v$version and 
v$instance.
And tempfile is latest method of defining Oracle database temporary files 
for Temp tablespaces.

Mujeeb Chowdhry
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RE: select data using trigger

2001-12-11 Thread Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane)

Hi 

Thnq for responding.

I am mistaken, in understanding the request. 

I am supposed to create a trigger that will do update onto a target
table con2 whenever the contract is updated.

15 indexes on a table:

There are several tables that have 15 indexes. All such tables will have
10-20,000  rows and are majorly used for querying.

They have around 10-30 columns. 

But we never got a complaint, that the accessing is slow. 

Is this a harmful situation, having 15 indexes on a table. (The table
data almost never  
grow)

Thnx and regards,

Srinvias



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane)



Hope I'm not being blunt here, ( I will admit to being frank, but not
Frank )

What you're suggesting here is to put a patch on a bad design.

15 indexes?  That's too many.

Your table is undoubtedly highly denormalized and has too 
many columns.  How many columns does this table have?

You really need to take a step back and look at the design
of the data you are querying.

If this is really critical data ( Contracts?  Sounds critical ) then
strongly consider bringing in a consultant with strong data modeling
and database design experience to help you put this data in
a manageable form.

Or maybe you need to build a data mart and use partitioning?

This sounds to me like you need more consulting that you can
get from a few emails on a list server.

Jared



On Monday 10 December 2001 19:50, Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane)
wrote:
 Hi lists,

 Can anybody help me...?

 Table CONTRACTS is accessed by many applications and has many selects
 hit this table. This table has 15 indexes.

 Still It needs some more indexes. But we were instructed to stop
 creating indexes.

 We have another table CONT2 in another schema. This table is copy of
 CONTRACTS.

 Is there a way to write a trigger on CONT2 for the following issue:

 if a particular select / select statement issued against CONTRACTS
 table, that query should select data from CONT2.

 (There is only one particular select statement that is more resource
 intensive. We need to divert that query to CONT2. As the applications
 are already tuned, we were not permitted to modify that code.)

 Thnx in advance,

 Srinivas
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RE: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Sajid Iqbal


No, these are questions I have been asked but couldn't readily find the
information on... so I thought someone out there must know :-)

Regards

Saj


On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Mark Leith wrote:

 lol looks like it eh?
 
 I know that you can view v$instance while the database is not mounted - not
 sure about the other one..
 
 And - straight from the Oracle Concepts Manual (page 126)
 
 Locally managed temporary tablespaces have temporary datafiles (tempfiles),
 which
 are similar to ordinary datafiles except that:
 
 Tempfiles are always set to NOLOGGING mode.
 You cannot make a tempfile read-only.
 You cannot rename a tempfile.
 You cannot create a tempfile with the ALTER DATABASE statement.
 Media recovery does not recognize tempfiles:
  – BACKUP CONTROLFILE does not generate any information for tempfiles.
  – CREATE CONTROLFILE cannot specify any information about tempfiles.
 Tempfile information is shown in the dictionary view DBA_TEMP_FILES and the
 dynamic performance view V$TEMPFILE, but not in DBA_DATA_FILES or the
 V$DATAFILE view.
 
 Looks like I failed my OCP :P
 
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 Anyone now which 2 V$ views can be accessed while in nomount mode ?
 Also what is a tempfile ?
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Why is this code not working?

2001-12-11 Thread Ken Janusz

When I run this code both columns I get no rows returned.  When I do a desc
on one of the tables I see both columns.  So, why am I not getting any data?

select table_name, column_name 
from dba_tab_columns
where 
(column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' and
column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM 
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TEMP Tablespace Problem

2001-12-11 Thread Ken Janusz

Somehow I deleted the TEMP tablespace but not the datafile.  How do I go
about recreating this tablespace?

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RE: nomount

2001-12-11 Thread Kevin Lange

And you believed  it ?

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v$parameter
v$sga
v$option
v$process
v$session
v$version
v$instance

nomount stage, right from my Oracle Admin book published by Oracle.

David Ehresmann
Oracle DBA 8  8i OCP
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RE: select data using trigger

2001-12-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Well ...

According to a document on Metalink .. it is pretty safe to assume the cost
of a DML action on an index as 3 times of that of on the table. So, if
inserting one record costs you one unit, on your table with 15 indexes it
would be  

(1 * 1 table) + (3 * 15 indexes) = 46 units.

And this is for each row ...

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excel data into oracle through sql loader

2001-12-11 Thread Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane)

Hi lists,

I need to load the excel sheet data to oracle tables. A date column is
improperly entered by users.

In the excel sheet the date column was filled up without using hyphens
or slashes
the data is like this

todays date: 10th Dec 2001
(it is supposed to be 10/12/2001 or 10-Dec-2001 etc...)

But it was entered in the cells as 101201
When I formatted the data using the excel option cells - format 

The data it is displaying in a strage format: 1/27/2177

All the date values are displayed improperly.

Does anybody come across such a situation. How to format the date cells
in excelsheet.
(should I change any options for the sheet)


Thnx in advance,

Srinivas

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sql query

2001-12-11 Thread Steven Hovington

Hi,

I have this sql statement:

select
  to_number(null) as id,
  to_char(null) as car_make
from
  dual
union
select
  id,
  car_make
from
  carmake
order by
  car_make;

So this selects a blank record and then the records from carmake.  But I
want the blank record to
appear at the top of the list, and it must be done in the select statement.
Can this be done?

TIA,


Thanks,
Steven Hovington

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Re: Why is this code not working?

2001-12-11 Thread Dennis M. Heisler

Change the 'and' to 'or'.


Ken Janusz wrote:
 
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 on one of the tables I see both columns.  So, why am I not getting any data?
 
 select table_name, column_name
 from dba_tab_columns
 where
 (column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' and
 column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')
 
 Thanks,
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RE: Why is this code not working?

2001-12-11 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam


This was returned by the mailer-daemon because of a
locking problem ??

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You need an or-clause because one row has either the 
value 'registration_number' or 'document_number',
 one of both is the issue

Hth,

Jeroen

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When I run this code both columns I get no rows returned.  When I do a desc
on one of the tables I see both columns.  So, why am I not getting any data?

select table_name, column_name 
from dba_tab_columns
where 
(column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' and
column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM 
Database Conversion Lead 
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Minneapolis, MN

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RE: Why is this code not working?

2001-12-11 Thread Iulian . ILIES

I guess this is what you want:

select table_name, column_name 
from dba_tab_columns
where (column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' or column_name =
'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')

or

select table_name, column_name 
from dba_tab_columns
where column_name in ('REGISTRATION_NUMBER', 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')


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When I run this code both columns I get no rows returned.  When I do a desc
on one of the tables I see both columns.  So, why am I not getting any data?

select table_name, column_name 
from dba_tab_columns
where 
(column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' and
column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM 
Database Conversion Lead 
Sufficient System, Inc.  
Minneapolis, MN

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Re: RMAN - archive log files

2001-12-11 Thread Ruth Gramolini

If you want to be able to restore your database to a point in time or do a
complete recovery you database you must have all of the archive logs you
need.  If you don't include them in a backup you must keep them in the
archivelog destination,

Ruth
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 Must I have RMAN back up the archive log files?
 We are at the delicate position of getting acquainted with RMAN. We
 are using it but not yet ready to completely trust it, or rather trust
that
 our setup is entirely correct (we production DBAs tend to be a
conservative
 lot). We are just writing RMAN files to disk, no media manager.
 Needless to say, we are getting the disadvantages of both methods.
 In addition to the disk space taken up by the archive log files, I also
have
 the disk space taken up by the RMAN archive log files, so I have used
twice
 the amount of disk.
 If I didn't have RMAN store the archive log files, would it still be
 able to perform a recovery? Would it just grab the existing log files off
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 were created since RMAN last ran. Appreciate your insights.
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RE: Why is this code not working?

2001-12-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

U - cause one row cannot have both values in the same column???

How about changing it to:

select table_name, column_name 
from dba_tab_columns
where 
(column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' or
 column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')

or

where 
(column_name in ('REGISTRATION_NUMBER','DOCUMENT_NUMBER')


Hope this helps

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When I run this code both columns I get no rows returned.  When I do a desc
on one of the tables I see both columns.  So, why am I not getting any data?

select table_name, column_name 
from dba_tab_columns
where 
(column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' and
column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM 
Database Conversion Lead 
Sufficient System, Inc.  
Minneapolis, MN

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RE: Why is this code not working?

2001-12-11 Thread Johnston, Tim

You are trying to look for a column name be equal to two different names...
I assume you want an OR instead of the AND...

select table_name, column_name 
from dba_tab_columns
where (column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' OR column_name =
'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')


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When I run this code both columns I get no rows returned.  When I do a desc
on one of the tables I see both columns.  So, why am I not getting any data?

select table_name, column_name 
from dba_tab_columns
where 
(column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' and
column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM 
Database Conversion Lead 
Sufficient System, Inc.  
Minneapolis, MN

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Re: Why is this code not working?

2001-12-11 Thread Pat Hildebrand

I think you are confusing the logical and with the fact that you want
both columns. Try using or in place of and

 (column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' or
 column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')


   Pat


 
 When I run this code both columns I get no rows returned.  When I do a desc
 on one of the tables I see both columns.  So, why am I not getting any data?
 
 select table_name, column_name 
 from dba_tab_columns
 where 
 (column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' and
 column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')
 
 Thanks,
 Ken Janusz, CPIM 
 Database Conversion Lead 
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 Minneapolis, MN
 
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RE: excel data into oracle through sql loader

2001-12-11 Thread Iulian . ILIES

Have you considered to use findreplace tool in excel and replace all the
th string with nothing, and then reformat the cell as you need.

Iulian

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Hi lists,

I need to load the excel sheet data to oracle tables. A date column is
improperly entered by users.

In the excel sheet the date column was filled up without using hyphens
or slashes
the data is like this

todays date: 10th Dec 2001
(it is supposed to be 10/12/2001 or 10-Dec-2001 etc...)

But it was entered in the cells as 101201
When I formatted the data using the excel option cells - format 

The data it is displaying in a strage format: 1/27/2177

All the date values are displayed improperly.

Does anybody come across such a situation. How to format the date cells
in excelsheet.
(should I change any options for the sheet)


Thnx in advance,

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RE: Why is this code not working?

2001-12-11 Thread Mohan, Ross

funny, i run it in my database (mutatis mutandis for column names, natch)
and it works JUST FINE with AND.

buti am hoping an acknowledged SQL guru will step in and say this


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Change the 'and' to 'or'.

















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Re: excel data into oracle through sql loader

2001-12-11 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi

Workaround: Treat the Column as text (within Excel) and transform it
with a little VBA Macro into the format you want to use in Oracle.


Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane) schrieb:
 
 Hi lists,
 
 I need to load the excel sheet data to oracle tables. A date column is
 improperly entered by users.
 
 In the excel sheet the date column was filled up without using hyphens
 or slashes
 the data is like this
 
 todays date: 10th Dec 2001
 (it is supposed to be 10/12/2001 or 10-Dec-2001 etc...)
 
 But it was entered in the cells as 101201
 When I formatted the data using the excel option cells - format
 
 The data it is displaying in a strage format: 1/27/2177
 
 All the date values are displayed improperly.
 
 Does anybody come across such a situation. How to format the date cells
 in excelsheet.
 (should I change any options for the sheet)
 
 Thnx in advance,
 
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Re: Listeners listening to multiple IPs

2001-12-11 Thread Rachel Carmichael

it's not so much a feature of the listener as it is of DNS as far as I
know. One of the reasons it's best not to hard-code IP addresses into
the listener.ora is because when you do a failover, or combine machines
as you have, the listener.ora and tnsnames.ora files need to be
updated.

If you use DNS and let the DNS server resolve the address, you don't
have to change anything.

This has been around for as long as I can remember using the listener,
which means going back to version 6

Rachel

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 has two IP addresses: hme0: x.y.z.001 - from oracle1 and hme1:
 x.y.z.002 -
 from oracle2.  There are few databases there (some of them were on
 oracle1
 some on oracle2) and one listener listening to all of them.
 
 If you configure listener.ora file so that HOST=x.y.z.001, or
 HOST=x.y.z.002
 that listener listens to that ONE IP only.  However, if you put
 HOST=oracle.acme.com in listener.ora than it listens to all IPs (in
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 at replaces it with IP but first checks whether this is the primary
 IP for
 that box.  
 
 So, once we have put HOST=oracle.acme.com, all the connections were
 OK
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RV: Import/Export table

2001-12-11 Thread Natalia Laracca

Hi,
you can try:
exp file=
   log=
   tables=
   owner = A

imp file=
   log=
   ignore=y
   tables=
   fromuser=A touser=B

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 Hi list.
 I have 3 tables in a schema and I want to export them to another schema in
 another database.
 Any ideeas?
 Thanks!

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CREATE DATABASE scripts

2001-12-11 Thread Stoddard, Lindsay

Hi,

I am trying to generate some generic CREATE DATABASE scripts from the Oracle
Database Configuration assistant and I cannot see the Generate Database
Creation Scripts option that is mentioned in the HELP.  It is not listed on
the screen with the Create Database and Save as a Database Template
options.

Can someone let me know how it is done with the 9i configuration assistant
or pass on some Oracle 9i CREATE DATABASE scripts.

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Re: TEMP Tablespace Problem

2001-12-11 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi

Assuming that you actually use the TEMP tablespace as a real temp
tablespace and didn't put any actual data in it, you can just go ahead
recreate it by reusing the old datafile. 



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 Somehow I deleted the TEMP tablespace but not the datafile.  How do I go
 about recreating this tablespace?
 
 Thanks,
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RE: sql query

2001-12-11 Thread Iulian . ILIES

Does this suit you?
select
  to_number(null) as id,
  to_char(null) as car_make,
  0 ordcol
from
  dual
union
select
  id,
  car_make,
  1 ordcol
from
  carmake
order by
  ordcol,
  car_make;

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Hi,

I have this sql statement:

select
  to_number(null) as id,
  to_char(null) as car_make
from
  dual
union
select
  id,
  car_make
from
  carmake
order by
  car_make;

So this selects a blank record and then the records from carmake.  But I
want the blank record to
appear at the top of the list, and it must be done in the select statement.
Can this be done?

TIA,


Thanks,
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Re: TEMP Tablespace Problem

2001-12-11 Thread tday6

Use the REUSE option on the CREATE TABLESPACE command.


   

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Somehow I deleted the TEMP tablespace but not the datafile.  How do I go
about recreating this tablespace?

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
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RE: Why is this code not working?

2001-12-11 Thread Kevin Bass

Change the and in your WHERE clause to an or.


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When I run this code both columns I get no rows returned.  When I do a desc
on one of the tables I see both columns.  So, why am I not getting any data?

select table_name, column_name 
from dba_tab_columns
where 
(column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' and
column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')

Thanks,
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RE: TEMP Tablespace Problem

2001-12-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Ken - I assume you dropped the TEMP tablespace, which doesn't delete the
datafile. I'm assuming you are on Unix. Just remove the data file and
recreate the TEMP tablespace the same way as you originally did. I believe
that the temp tablespace settings for all users will be unaffected, but you
might check one or two to make sure.
Dennis Williams
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Somehow I deleted the TEMP tablespace but not the datafile.  How do I go
about recreating this tablespace?

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM 
Database Conversion 
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Re: Why is this code not working?

2001-12-11 Thread Rachel Carmichael

one column (COLUMN_NAME) can't have two separate and distinct values.

I think you want an or not an and in the query


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 When I run this code both columns I get no rows returned.  When I do
 a desc
 on one of the tables I see both columns.  So, why am I not getting
 any data?
 
 select table_name, column_name 
 from dba_tab_columns
 where 
 (column_name = 'REGISTRATION_NUMBER' and
 column_name = 'DOCUMENT_NUMBER')
 
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Re: Listeners listening to multiple IPs

2001-12-11 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi

I did this (don't know wether it's documented or not), but somebody
recommended to split it up into 2 listeners (1 for each interface) to
have a better way of controlling the workload (especially with multiple
instances).
Made sense to me.

Djordje Jankovic schrieb:
 
 Something I learned today, but haven't seen it documented anywhere and would
 like to see whether anybody has come across it.
 
 We have a Sun server (call it oracle.acme.com).  It came to life by
 combining two machines (oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com).  So now it
 has two IP addresses: hme0: x.y.z.001 - from oracle1 and hme1: x.y.z.002 -
 from oracle2.  There are few databases there (some of them were on oracle1
 some on oracle2) and one listener listening to all of them.
 
 If you configure listener.ora file so that HOST=x.y.z.001, or HOST=x.y.z.002
 that listener listens to that ONE IP only.  However, if you put
 HOST=oracle.acme.com in listener.ora than it listens to all IPs (in netstat
 -an you see that it is listening to *.1521 instead of to
 oracle.acme.com.1521).  That would mean that oracle does not resolve DNS
 at replaces it with IP but first checks whether this is the primary IP for
 that box.
 
 So, once we have put HOST=oracle.acme.com, all the connections were OK
 (coming from clients with tnsnames files that are pointing to old
 oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com)  Of course DNS was changed..
 
 Anybody has come across this undocumented feature ?  Any explanation to that
 ?
 
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RE: sql query

2001-12-11 Thread Aponte, Tony
Title: RE: sql query






add NULLS FIRST after the ORDER BY CAR_MAKE:


select

 to_number(null) as id,

 to_char(null) as car_make

from

 dual

union

select

 id,

 car_make

from

 carmake

order by

 car_make NULLS LAST;


Tony Aponte



-Original Message-

From: Steven Hovington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:45 AM

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Subject: sql query



Hi,


I have this sql statement:


select

 to_number(null) as id,

 to_char(null) as car_make

from

 dual

union

select

 id,

 car_make

from

 carmake

order by

 car_make;


So this selects a blank record and then the records from carmake. But I

want the blank record to

appear at the top of the list, and it must be done in the select statement.

Can this be done?


TIA,



Thanks,

Steven Hovington


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RE: sql query

2001-12-11 Thread Larry Elkins

Steve,

Use the NULLS FIRST option of the ORDER BY (and you probably want to change
your UNION to a UNION ALL). Note that you could also include a constant in
each select to enforce order, do an order by nvl(col,looow value), etc. Lots
of ways, but, the NULLS FIRST option seems clearest to me.

  1  select to_number(null), to_char(null)
  2  from dual
  3  union ALL
  4  select empno, ename
  5  from emp
  6* order by 1 nulls first
SQL /

TO_NUMBER(NULL) TO_CHAR(NU
--- --

   7369 SMITH
   7499 ALLEN
   7521 WARD
   7566 JONES
   7654 MARTIN
   7698 BLAKE
   7782 CLARK
   7788 SCOTT
   7839 KING
   7844 TURNER
   7876 ADAMS
   7900 JAMES
   7902 FORD
   7934 MILLER

15 rows selected.

Regards,

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven
 Hovington
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:45 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: sql query


 Hi,

 I have this sql statement:

 select
   to_number(null) as id,
   to_char(null) as car_make
 from
   dual
 union
 select
   id,
   car_make
 from
   carmake
 order by
   car_make;

 So this selects a blank record and then the records from carmake.  But I
 want the blank record to
 appear at the top of the list, and it must be done in the select
 statement.
 Can this be done?

 TIA,


 Thanks,
 Steven Hovington

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ORA 0600 on histgrm$ after computed statistics on database

2001-12-11 Thread SAURY Alain
Title: ORA 0600 on histgrm$ after computed statistics on database





Hello,


I keep getting numerous ORA 600 since I have launched:


dbms_utility.analyze_database
and 
dbms_stats.gather_database_stats


Has anybody run into this type of problem ?


PS: get ORA 600 on : 
select /*+ rule */ bucket, endpoint, col#, epvalue 
from histgrm$ 
where obj#=:1 
and intcol#=:2 
and row#=:3 
order by bucket


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RE: sql query

2001-12-11 Thread Aponte, Tony
Title: RE: sql query






Oops. The statement was wrong. I'll try it gain:


select

 to_number(null) as id,

 to_char(null) as car_make

from

 dual

union

select

 id,

 car_make

from

 carmake

order by

 car_make NULLS FIRST;


Tony Aponte





-Original Message-

From: Aponte, Tony 

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:21 PM

To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Subject: RE: sql query



add NULLS FIRST after the ORDER BY CAR_MAKE:


select

 to_number(null) as id,

 to_char(null) as car_make

from

 dual

union

select

 id,

 car_make

from

 carmake

order by

 car_make NULLS LAST;


Tony Aponte



-Original Message-

From: Steven Hovington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:45 AM

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Subject: sql query



Hi,


I have this sql statement:


select

 to_number(null) as id,

 to_char(null) as car_make

from

 dual

union

select

 id,

 car_make

from

 carmake

order by

 car_make;


So this selects a blank record and then the records from carmake. But I

want the blank record to

appear at the top of the list, and it must be done in the select statement.

Can this be done?


TIA,



Thanks,

Steven Hovington


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RE: RE: Where is the memory gone?

2001-12-11 Thread CC Harvest

I agree with Christian. We had the same memory leak
problem here before. It turned out there are some
heavily used sql statement without the bind variables.


--- Christian Trassens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Answering your first message about the shrink of
 free
 space in shared pool. Check the parsing ratio:
 
 The hard parse with something like this
 
 SELECT substr(sql_text,1,40) SQL, 
count(*) , 
sum(executions) TotExecs
   FROM v$sqlarea
  WHERE executions  5
  GROUP BY substr(sql_text,1,40)
 HAVING count(*)  30
  ORDER BY 2
 ;
 
 The soft parsing something like this:
 
 
 select count(*) from v$sqlarea
 where version_count5;
 
 And about parsing look for a note in metalink about
 parameter _sqlexec_progression_cost.
 
 Try with cursor_sharing. Also refer to possibles
 bugs
 related in metalink.
 
 And about parsing you can also look in the v$sysstat
 for statistics related.
 
 Check the shared pool latch rate too.
 
 Regards.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- Kimberly Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Only thing I have to add here is that I was not
  using MTS so which ever bug I was hitting (doco is
 
  at the office) it was not related to that.
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:50 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  WinterSun,
  
  Hmm, this doesn't sound like bug 1397603.  That
 bug
  manifests itself as a memory leak in the 'State
  objects' area of the shared pool, not the
  'Miscellaneous' area.  Bug 1397603 is also fixed
 in
  the 8.1.7.2 patchset, so if you already have that
  applied (hint, hint!) you're not encountering this
  bug
  and there's no need to set _db_handles_cached = 0.
  
  I believe the bug Kimberly is referring to is bug
  1240484, which is a process memory leak (i.e.
  ORA-4030, not ORA-4031) with MTS shared server
  sessions when there are frequent
  connect/disconnects. 
  That bug is fixed in 8.1.7.1.
  
  If IOT's are involved, you could be hitting bug
  1642964 if the IOT is the inner table in a nested
  loop
  join.  Fixed in 9.0.1.  Workaround:  set
  optimizer_index_caching = 1
  
  I'm more inclined to believe you're hitting bug
  1921561 or bug 1970290, both of which have been
  awaiting more info from the customer for whom the
  bug
  was filed.  The workaround for both of them was to
  set
  STAR_TRANSFORMATION_ENABLED = FALSE or
  _db_file_noncontig_mblock_read_count = 1.  If you
  use
  bitmap indexes, disabling star transformation is
  likely to cause a noticeable performance hit so
 you
  might want to try the other workaround.
  
  Otherwise, if you can reproduce this in a test
  environment, it would be helpful to file a tar
 with
  support so a bug can be filed.
  
  HTH,
  
  -- Anita
  
  --- WinterSun Zhao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Hi, Kimberly:
  Thank you for your guide.
  I checked Metalink and find that is a bug.
 Bug
   No. 1397603.
  I think I will add the parameter
   _db_handles_cached to 1 later. I will also patch
  it
   to 8.1.7.2 too.
  Thank all of you.
  B.R.
   
This sound pretty much like the same problem I
  had
   with 8.1.7 on HP.
They have a memory leak when you
   connect/disconnect and it you have
a lot of those you start to see it in your
 SGA. 
  I
   had to patch to
8.1.7.1 plus an additional bug fix.  Check on
   Metalink to see if there
is the same problem with Windows.  It also
 could
   be that you really
do need more then 50M.  Pin in the bigger
  packages
   you use (including
Oracle's) right after startup and see where
 you
   are memory wise.

-Original Message-
Zhao
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 5:30 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi, DBAs:
I find that one of our database's Shared
   Pool's memory decreased every
day.
It is Oracle 8.1.7 on Windows 2K, with
 512M
   Physical memory.
When I check v$sgastat, I find the
   miscellaneous part of shared pool
increased every day, it begans with 500K,
 then,
   after two days, it increased
to 5586228 bytes, after about 10 days, it
   increased to 40M, and because I
had allocated 50M to the Shared Pool, So the
   memory available became less
and less. And I had to shutdown and restart
 the
   database when the available
memory of shared pool is below 5M.
   I want to know why the memory occupied by
   miscellaneous part is
increased? The other database on solaris did
 not
   increased. How can I find
out what is it? How to prevent it or resolve
 it
   without shutdown and restart
the database? ( alter system flush shared pool
   only flush the sql and
library cache, and it didn't decrease the
   miscellaneous part's memory
usage. )
   Thank you very much!

  WinterSun
  
  
  __
  Do You Yahoo!?
  Send your FREE holiday 

RE: DB Design and Views

2001-12-11 Thread John Kanagaraj

Stephan,

Contrary to what has been mentioned, the optimizer actually performs a
number of transformations on the submitted query using the Query transformer
- this includes 'view merging' which basically rewrites the query by merging
the view query block into the query block that contains the view. According
to the doco, most of the views are merged, with an exception of few types of
views. Now there is no detail on what these few types are, but I do know
that 'simple' views that provide a layer for security (and multiple 'simple'
layers for that matter) are efficiently merged. I think Guy Harrison's SQL
tuning book has the details.

Warm wishes for the season,
John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DBSoft Inc
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Wanna know the reason for the season? Click on 'http://www.needhim.org'

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 From: Kimberly Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:40 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: DB Design and Views
 
 
 I would avoid views based on view.  As well, I would avoid using views
 where you will later turn around and throw a distinct or a group by
 or anything else on it (especially if you are dealing with a 
 lot of data).
 Basically, You cannot be assured that the optimizer will pick 
 the proper
 path once the select is within a view and you do anything other then a
 straight select on that.  I have seen it work fine and I have seen it
 bring an application to a grinding halt.
 
 -Original Message-
 Jahnke
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:30 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hi,
 
 as I remember, it was always recommended to avoid the use of 
 views upon
 views upon views in the design of an Oracle DB (as for version 7/8),
 since the optimizer might get confused.
 Does that still apply ?
 I'm supposed to give some guidelines to developers about the usage of
 views.
 My point of view is, that views should only be used to grant limited
 access to tables in a schema (horizontal/vertical) or to
 consolidate/pre-calculate data.
 
 Any input ?
 
 Regards,
 Stefan
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RE: Lookup table design thoughts needed

2001-12-11 Thread Aponte, Tony
Title: RE: Lookup table design thoughts needed






I would start by considering how the application is deployed. For code that is easily deployed (E.I.. executables are located on a few application servers or a shared drive) I would consider compiling the rule data along with the logic. It generally improves run-time performance because there is no database access, network traffic, etc. Initialization of the bloated executable would be offset by the run-time savings. You incur a penalty when adding a new codes since you have to recompile and deploy the new executable but itsanotsobad in an app. server/shared drive deployment.

Another consideration to take is the frequency that rules may change. Your example for state codes has remained the same since the 50's. I would pursue the hardcoded route if the code tables are more or less stable, or if the changes in the rules would involve code changes anyway.

In a 2-tier client-server deployment I would go the database route, although separate tables for each type of code. This will simplify code table changes by not requiring a redeployment of the compiled code.

Tony Aponte


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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:15 PM

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Subject: Lookup table design thoughts needed




We are currently looking at rewriting our entry system and one issue that I am

looking for some feedback involves the use of lookup tables and

populating/editing screens. We are looking at creating a generic table that

contains all the valid entries for each drop-down list. For example, we may

display a list of valid states for the user to select. The proposed edit

table contains a row for each state with the following columns as an example:


table_name: address

column_name: state_cd

code: WI

description: Wisconsin


In addition, we have situations on the screen where a user may select option

'a' in a drop-down list, but can not choose option 'c,d or f' in a different

drop down list.

Any suggestions for designing a flexible system that would incorporate issues

like the above. We have been considering either hard-coding the edits within

the screen as well as creating a rules/validation table that would

incorporate these edits. How practical is a rules table? (We do have

situations where we may have multiple entries to validate to each other). I

realize these are very broad questions, so I am looking for generic theories

that may be applied that are flexible for adapting to changes within the

business. What else should I consider? It appears as if there are several

ways to skin the cat how do we go about choosing the best method for our

situation.


In addition, does anybody know of any good websites/books that contain

relational design strategies, tips ...





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RE: RMAN - archive log files

2001-12-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Thanks, Ruth. Because we aren't yet ready to bet the farm on RMAN, we are
keeping them in both locations. And since we only do a weekly cold backup,
we keep a week's worth on disk. I'm thinking that for the time being we can
forgo RMAN backing up the archive logs. Thanks.
Dennis Williams
DBA
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If you want to be able to restore your database to a point in time or do a
complete recovery you database you must have all of the archive logs you
need.  If you don't include them in a backup you must keep them in the
archivelog destination,

Ruth
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 Must I have RMAN back up the archive log files?
 We are at the delicate position of getting acquainted with RMAN. We
 are using it but not yet ready to completely trust it, or rather trust
that
 our setup is entirely correct (we production DBAs tend to be a
conservative
 lot). We are just writing RMAN files to disk, no media manager.
 Needless to say, we are getting the disadvantages of both methods.
 In addition to the disk space taken up by the archive log files, I also
have
 the disk space taken up by the RMAN archive log files, so I have used
twice
 the amount of disk.
 If I didn't have RMAN store the archive log files, would it still be
 able to perform a recovery? Would it just grab the existing log files off
 disk? I'm thinking it must since it has to use some archive log files that
 were created since RMAN last ran. Appreciate your insights.
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UKOUG Drink!

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Leith

Hi guys and gals,

OK - so who's going to be going to the UKOUG on Monday? And who wants to
meet up for a beer? I have a partial list of people, but if we could all
confirm now that would great! The thoughts on the venue were Broad Street -
maybe somewhere like Ronnie Scotts? Or the cafe/restaurant area out the back
of the ICC in Brindley place - across the canal.

So far there will be me. lol. On my own if I have to!

Mark

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UKOUG

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Leith

Hi guys and gals,

OK - so who's going to be going to the UKOUG on Monday? And who wants to
meet up for a beer? I have a partial list of people, but if we could all
confirm now that would great! The thoughts on the venue were Broad Street -
maybe somewhere like Ronnie Scotts? Or the cafe/restaurant area out the back
of the ICC in Brindley place - across the canal.

So far there will be me. lol. On my own if I have to!

Mark

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How Big is Your SAP Database?

2001-12-11 Thread Jon Behnke

We are trying to get an idea of how much disk we'll need to roll out the
MySAP suite to about 200 users on Oracle 8.1.7/HP-UX 11. We're planning on
using most of the core SAP package and not CRM or APO. Can anyone else give
me a guess on how much disk space we might need?

Jon Behnke
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Re: ORA 0600 on histgrm$ after computed statistics on database

2001-12-11 Thread claudio cutelli
Title: ORA 0600 on histgrm$ after computed statistics on database



Hi, I think you should not analyze sys 
schema.


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  computed statistics on database
  
  Hello, 
  I keep getting numerous ORA 600 since I have 
  launched: 
  dbms_utility.analyze_database and dbms_stats.gather_database_stats 
  Has anybody run into this type of problem ? 
  
  PS: get ORA 600 on : select /*+ rule */ bucket, endpoint, col#, epvalue from histgrm$ where 
  obj#=:1 and intcol#=:2 and row#=:3 order by 
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RE: Oracle on Pentium 4 conflict

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Leith

I have a P4 - which I actually had the below problem with on both 8.1.7, and
9i. The below problem fixed the install problems with 8.1.7, but 9i STILL
won't install on my machine (Win2K O.S.). It keeps complaining that it cant
find jrew.exe, and that I need to install JRE 1.2.1(?) or greater.. I have
the JRE 1.3.1 installed!

I gave up!

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Except for the most current version of 9i

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Ron, does this affect 9i?

Dave

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Received this the the SearchDatabase  org today. I thought some of you might
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ORACLE ON PENTIUM 4 CONFLICT | by Liviu Obreja

Here's a quick tip: The installation of Oracle8i on a Pentium 4 computer
will exit without any notice. The reason for this is that the Pentium 4
architecture has problems with the Just In Time installer. To fix this
problem, just find all copies of the file symcjit.dll and rename them to
symcjit.org. Then the installer will work. Copy the installation CD to the
HDD and make the changes, then install from the HDD.  Voila!

 CLICK for the full tip...
http://www.searchDatabase.com/tip/1,289483,sid13_gci784876,00.html



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RE: Listeners listening to multiple IPs

2001-12-11 Thread Djordje Jankovic

I tried doing this but had problems running two listener that listen on the
same port number on two different IPs.  One of the two did not want to
start.

Djordje

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 Subject: Re: Listeners listening to multiple IPs
 
 
 Hi
 
 I did this (don't know wether it's documented or not), but somebody
 recommended to split it up into 2 listeners (1 for each interface) to
 have a better way of controlling the workload (especially 
 with multiple
 instances).
 Made sense to me.
 
 Djordje Jankovic schrieb:
  
  Something I learned today, but haven't seen it documented 
 anywhere and would
  like to see whether anybody has come across it.
  
  We have a Sun server (call it oracle.acme.com).  It came to life by
  combining two machines (oracle1.acme.com and 
 oracle2.acme.com).  So now it
  has two IP addresses: hme0: x.y.z.001 - from oracle1 and 
 hme1: x.y.z.002 -
  from oracle2.  There are few databases there (some of them 
 were on oracle1
  some on oracle2) and one listener listening to all of them.
  
  If you configure listener.ora file so that HOST=x.y.z.001, 
 or HOST=x.y.z.002
  that listener listens to that ONE IP only.  However, if you put
  HOST=oracle.acme.com in listener.ora than it listens to all 
 IPs (in netstat
  -an you see that it is listening to *.1521 instead of to
  oracle.acme.com.1521).  That would mean that oracle does 
 not resolve DNS
  at replaces it with IP but first checks whether this is the 
 primary IP for
  that box.
  
  So, once we have put HOST=oracle.acme.com, all the 
 connections were OK
  (coming from clients with tnsnames files that are pointing to old
  oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com)  Of course DNS was changed..
  
  Anybody has come across this undocumented feature ?  Any 
 explanation to that
  ?
  
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RE: UKOUG

2001-12-11 Thread Mark Leith

WOW!! They got through!! I only sent these last Wednesday!!!

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Hi guys and gals,

OK - so who's going to be going to the UKOUG on Monday? And who wants to
meet up for a beer? I have a partial list of people, but if we could all
confirm now that would great! The thoughts on the venue were Broad Street -
maybe somewhere like Ronnie Scotts? Or the cafe/restaurant area out the back
of the ICC in Brindley place - across the canal.

So far there will be me. lol. On my own if I have to!

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RE: Listeners listening to multiple IPs

2001-12-11 Thread Djordje Jankovic

I am not talking whether putting DNS entry works, but am just pointing to
the fact that oracle behaves differently if you put hardcoded IP - it than
listens to one IP only, and if you put the dns name - listens to all IPs.

Djordje

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 From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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 Subject: Re: Listeners listening to multiple IPs
 
 
 it's not so much a feature of the listener as it is of DNS as far as I
 know. One of the reasons it's best not to hard-code IP addresses into
 the listener.ora is because when you do a failover, or 
 combine machines
 as you have, the listener.ora and tnsnames.ora files need to be
 updated.
 
 If you use DNS and let the DNS server resolve the address, you don't
 have to change anything.
 
 This has been around for as long as I can remember using the listener,
 which means going back to version 6
 
 Rachel
 
 --- Djordje Jankovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Something I learned today, but haven't seen it documented anywhere
  and would
  like to see whether anybody has come across it.
  
  We have a Sun server (call it oracle.acme.com).  It came to life by
  combining two machines (oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com).  So
  now it
  has two IP addresses: hme0: x.y.z.001 - from oracle1 and hme1:
  x.y.z.002 -
  from oracle2.  There are few databases there (some of them were on
  oracle1
  some on oracle2) and one listener listening to all of them.
  
  If you configure listener.ora file so that HOST=x.y.z.001, or
  HOST=x.y.z.002
  that listener listens to that ONE IP only.  However, if you put
  HOST=oracle.acme.com in listener.ora than it listens to all IPs (in
  netstat
  -an you see that it is listening to *.1521 instead of to
  oracle.acme.com.1521).  That would mean that oracle does not
  resolve DNS
  at replaces it with IP but first checks whether this is the primary
  IP for
  that box.  
  
  So, once we have put HOST=oracle.acme.com, all the connections were
  OK
  (coming from clients with tnsnames files that are pointing to old
  oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com)  Of course DNS was changed..
  
  Anybody has come across this undocumented feature ?  Any explanation
  to that
  ?
  
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RE: RMAN - archive log files

2001-12-11 Thread SARKAR, Samir

Dennis,

To perform media recovery using RMAN, it is necessary that u backup 
archived log files too since it is the key to a successful recovery.

I suggest that u store the RMAN recovery catalog on a different machine
cos if ur machine crashes thus crashing the database, ur RMAN catalog 
goes as well.

Samir

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Must I have RMAN back up the archive log files?
We are at the delicate position of getting acquainted with RMAN. We
are using it but not yet ready to completely trust it, or rather trust that
our setup is entirely correct (we production DBAs tend to be a conservative
lot). We are just writing RMAN files to disk, no media manager.
Needless to say, we are getting the disadvantages of both methods.
In addition to the disk space taken up by the archive log files, I also have
the disk space taken up by the RMAN archive log files, so I have used twice
the amount of disk. 
If I didn't have RMAN store the archive log files, would it still be
able to perform a recovery? Would it just grab the existing log files off
disk? I'm thinking it must since it has to use some archive log files that
were created since RMAN last ran. Appreciate your insights.
Dennis Williams
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netasst in linux

2001-12-11 Thread Yohans Mendoza

Hi all,

I'm trying to ruin netasst in a linux box running RH7.2, but it only sits 
there doing nothing.

Does anybody know if I have to set something before?

I was able to create the DB w/o a problem.

any help greatly appreciated

TIA

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RE: Listeners listening to multiple IPs

2001-12-11 Thread Rachel Carmichael

well yeah... 

that's the whole point of USING DNS, so that it will work like that


--- Djordje Jankovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am not talking whether putting DNS entry works, but am just
 pointing to
 the fact that oracle behaves differently if you put hardcoded IP - it
 than
 listens to one IP only, and if you put the dns name - listens to all
 IPs.
 
 Djordje
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:50 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: Re: Listeners listening to multiple IPs
  
  
  it's not so much a feature of the listener as it is of DNS as far
 as I
  know. One of the reasons it's best not to hard-code IP addresses
 into
  the listener.ora is because when you do a failover, or 
  combine machines
  as you have, the listener.ora and tnsnames.ora files need to be
  updated.
  
  If you use DNS and let the DNS server resolve the address, you
 don't
  have to change anything.
  
  This has been around for as long as I can remember using the
 listener,
  which means going back to version 6
  
  Rachel
  
  --- Djordje Jankovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Something I learned today, but haven't seen it documented
 anywhere
   and would
   like to see whether anybody has come across it.
   
   We have a Sun server (call it oracle.acme.com).  It came to life
 by
   combining two machines (oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com). 
 So
   now it
   has two IP addresses: hme0: x.y.z.001 - from oracle1 and hme1:
   x.y.z.002 -
   from oracle2.  There are few databases there (some of them were
 on
   oracle1
   some on oracle2) and one listener listening to all of them.
   
   If you configure listener.ora file so that HOST=x.y.z.001, or
   HOST=x.y.z.002
   that listener listens to that ONE IP only.  However, if you put
   HOST=oracle.acme.com in listener.ora than it listens to all IPs
 (in
   netstat
   -an you see that it is listening to *.1521 instead of to
   oracle.acme.com.1521).  That would mean that oracle does not
   resolve DNS
   at replaces it with IP but first checks whether this is the
 primary
   IP for
   that box.  
   
   So, once we have put HOST=oracle.acme.com, all the connections
 were
   OK
   (coming from clients with tnsnames files that are pointing to old
   oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com)  Of course DNS was
 changed..
   
   Anybody has come across this undocumented feature ?  Any
 explanation
   to that
   ?
   
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RE: Listeners listening to multiple IPs

2001-12-11 Thread Khedr, Waleed

I used to define it on localhost (127.0.0.1) and this worked great with all
ip addresses (only on Solaris).

Did not work on NT!

Regards,

Waleed

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:40 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Something I learned today, but haven't seen it documented anywhere and would
like to see whether anybody has come across it.

We have a Sun server (call it oracle.acme.com).  It came to life by
combining two machines (oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com).  So now it
has two IP addresses: hme0: x.y.z.001 - from oracle1 and hme1: x.y.z.002 -
from oracle2.  There are few databases there (some of them were on oracle1
some on oracle2) and one listener listening to all of them.

If you configure listener.ora file so that HOST=x.y.z.001, or HOST=x.y.z.002
that listener listens to that ONE IP only.  However, if you put
HOST=oracle.acme.com in listener.ora than it listens to all IPs (in netstat
-an you see that it is listening to *.1521 instead of to
oracle.acme.com.1521).  That would mean that oracle does not resolve DNS
at replaces it with IP but first checks whether this is the primary IP for
that box.  

So, once we have put HOST=oracle.acme.com, all the connections were OK
(coming from clients with tnsnames files that are pointing to old
oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com)  Of course DNS was changed..

Anybody has come across this undocumented feature ?  Any explanation to that
?

Djordje
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9i install.

2001-12-11 Thread Yuval Arnon
Title: 9i install.





Hi,
I am trying to run dbca (the new name for dbassist) on Sun Solaris 2.7 and I get the following 


java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/omg/CORBA/UserException
 at oracle.sysman.emSDK.common.registry.PropertiesFileRegistry.get(Proper
tiesFileRegistry.java:44)
 at oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemJavaLauncher.launch(OemJavaLauncher.ja
va:161)
 at oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.launch(OemApp.java:222)
 at oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.main(OemApp.java:80)
Exception in thread main wwf2:test9i /export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9.
0.1/bin$ ./dbca
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/inprise/vbroker/CORBA/Object
 at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.backend.Host.init(Compiled Code)
 at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.UIHost.init(Compiled Code)
 at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.InteractiveHost.init(Compiled Code
)
 at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.getHost(Compiled Code)
 at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.execute(Compiled Code)
 at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.main(Compiled Code)
Exception in thread main wwf2:test9i /export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9.


trying to re-install Oracle did not help. Nor metalink.


Thanks.


Yuval.





Re: Database down

2001-12-11 Thread Jeff Wiegard

Well, I think the issue is two-fold.

1. They have been tinkering with user sessions, and the trace file
output below is discussed on Steve Adams' website.

PMON unable to acquire latch 80002060
modify parameter values
possible holder pid = 58 ospid=29937
2001.12.09.15.27.43.000

I'm reviewing the settings in /etc/system. It is my belief that
the additional application server pushed Oracle over some threshhold
set in /etc/system.
We are not running multi-threaded server, and we now have three
application servers.

2. The issue with the patch has to do with my inability to restart
the damn server due to an 'ORA-27123: unable to attach to shared
memory segment'. I've   asked our UNIX admin to verify we have the
following patch:
  PATCH 105181-07 

 We are running 8.0.6 on Solaris 2.6. There are some issues
with the sgadef.dbf file upon shutdown. This is only supposed to
occur on a shutdown abort, but I've seen it occur on a shutdown
immediate. I do not know if this patch specifically addresses the
lingering sgadef.dbf file.

Jeff


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/11/01 12:10AM 
Jeff,

I had a similar situation last week. I would like to know what
patch are
talking about and what's your version of Oracle?

Regards,
Ed




 I discovered the trace file after restarting Oracle - so that
 process ID is no longer out there. I've also discovered that
there
 is a specific patch for this problem, which appears not to have
been
 applied. I will move forward with this, but would like to
provide
 management with an explanation as to why we had problems now,
after
 so many days of uptime.

 Thanks for your help.

 Jeff

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/01 03:35PM 
 I don't suppose you've run ps -ef | grep 29937 yet, just
 out of curiousity, have you?

 -Original Message-

 Just to follow up. I have the database backup. I am afraid
 however,
 that the problem is still floating around.

 Briefly, here is what occured:

 I restarted Oracle because our application was unable to
connect.
 I
 could connect through svrmgrl, but a 'select sysdate from dual'
 just
 hung. So I brought the database down, and recieved the memory
 segment error.

 So we were having problems while the database was up. Here is a
 trace file dump that may be linked to the problem:

   PMON unable to acquire latch 80002060 modify parameter values
 possible holder pid = 58 ospid=29937
   *** 2001.12.09.15.27.43.000


 We added a third application server last week. Could that
somehow
 be the source of these problems? This application has been
running
 problem free for over 100 days.

 Thanks for your input

 Jeff







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Re: select data using trigger

2001-12-11 Thread Connor McDonald

I always find it amusing that the SDD_ELEMENTS table
which is part of an Oracle product meant to encourage
good design (ie Designer) has more than this number of
indexes :-)

 --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Hope I'm not being blunt here, ( I will admit to
 being frank, but not Frank )
 
 What you're suggesting here is to put a patch on a
 bad design.
 
 15 indexes?  That's too many.
 
 Your table is undoubtedly highly denormalized and
 has too 
 many columns.  How many columns does this table
 have?
 
 You really need to take a step back and look at the
 design
 of the data you are querying.
 
 If this is really critical data ( Contracts?  Sounds
 critical ) then
 strongly consider bringing in a consultant with
 strong data modeling
 and database design experience to help you put this
 data in
 a manageable form.
 
 Or maybe you need to build a data mart and use
 partitioning?
 
 This sounds to me like you need more consulting that
 you can
 get from a few emails on a list server.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 On Monday 10 December 2001 19:50, Tatireddy,
 Shrinivas (MED, Keane) wrote:
  Hi lists,
 
  Can anybody help me...?
 
  Table CONTRACTS is accessed by many applications
 and has many selects
  hit this table. This table has 15 indexes.
 
  Still It needs some more indexes. But we were
 instructed to stop
  creating indexes.
 
  We have another table CONT2 in another schema.
 This table is copy of
  CONTRACTS.
 
  Is there a way to write a trigger on CONT2 for the
 following issue:
 
  if a particular select / select statement issued
 against CONTRACTS
  table, that query should select data from CONT2.
 
  (There is only one particular select statement
 that is more resource
  intensive. We need to divert that query to CONT2.
 As the applications
  are already tuned, we were not permitted to modify
 that code.)
 
  Thnx in advance,
 
  Srinivas
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RE: Listeners listening to multiple IPs

2001-12-11 Thread Jared . Still


Ditto.

In addition, DNS will use multiple IP's in a round robin fashion
as a crude form of load balancing.

Jared



   
 
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well yeah...

that's the whole point of USING DNS, so that it will work like that


--- Djordje Jankovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am not talking whether putting DNS entry works, but am just
 pointing to
 the fact that oracle behaves differently if you put hardcoded IP - it
 than
 listens to one IP only, and if you put the dns name - listens to all
 IPs.

 Djordje

  -Original Message-
  From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:50 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: Re: Listeners listening to multiple IPs
 
 
  it's not so much a feature of the listener as it is of DNS as far
 as I
  know. One of the reasons it's best not to hard-code IP addresses
 into
  the listener.ora is because when you do a failover, or
  combine machines
  as you have, the listener.ora and tnsnames.ora files need to be
  updated.
 
  If you use DNS and let the DNS server resolve the address, you
 don't
  have to change anything.
 
  This has been around for as long as I can remember using the
 listener,
  which means going back to version 6
 
  Rachel
 
  --- Djordje Jankovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Something I learned today, but haven't seen it documented
 anywhere
   and would
   like to see whether anybody has come across it.
  
   We have a Sun server (call it oracle.acme.com).  It came to life
 by
   combining two machines (oracle1.acme.com and oracle2.acme.com).
 So
   now it
   has two IP addresses: hme0: x.y.z.001 - from oracle1 and hme1:
   x.y.z.002 -
   from oracle2.  There are few databases there (some of them were
 on
   oracle1
   some on oracle2) and one listener listening to all of them.
  




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SQL Lock consistency - a great answer

2001-12-11 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

I have to share this post I got on another list.  Someone had asked a
question about how Oracle locks work, here is the question...

Q: i'd like to understand the lock modes (share  exclusive)
 how to make them on table in DML transaction  why locking is
automatically use the lowest level of restrictiveness 
 how the read consistency occures


Here is the response someone sent

An Oracle table is like a public restroom with an open door.

When you go in to use the restroom, you shut the door as you
enter, and you have placed the bathroom in shared lock mode.
When another person want to use the restroom too, they can 
push open the door and enter. Both of you are now in the 
restroom and sharing it.

However, if you go into the restroom, shut the door, and also
lock it, then you have acquired the restroom in exclusive lock
mode. Nobody else can come into the bathroom, even though there
are multiple stalls in there: your exclusiveness prevents anybody
else from going in there.

In a third situation, you go into the restroom in shared mode,
and then somebody else comes in after you, then it would be
very presumptious of him to lock the door behind him because
it just isn't done for someone to lock another stranger into 
the restroom; it would also make you very apprehensive to know
that he's now locked you in there with him. So, if someone
already is in the restroom and is sharing it, it prohibits
someone else from coming in later and claiming exclusivity
on it (at least not until the first person leaves.)

So, when you acquire the restroom, you should use the lowest
level of lockage, otherwise you're just being rude in not
sharing use of the facilities, and you would probably cause 
a long queue of people outside the restroom causing contention
problems waiting to gain access to the bathroom because it's
been locked in exclusive mode.

Now, suppose you set up web cams inside the restroom to
take video images of the restroom and the stalls therein, 
and issue every one who enters virtual reality googles. 
The web cams guarantees users' privacy by use of read-
consistency: the moment someone goes into a stall and closes 
the door, the web cam switches from live feed to replaying 
footage of an empty stall that was recorded from just prior 
to someone going into that stall. So, although there may be 
several people in the stall doing their business, your 
virtual reality googles always seem to show you clean, empty 
stalls. You pick an empty stall and try to enter it. If the 
stall is occupied, the stall door will be locked, so you 
can't enter it and do things to it, but through the magic 
of read-consistency, it looks as if it is unused; so like an 
obstinate idiot, you keep trying, and trying to open the door 
that won't open; at least not until the person in the stall 
comes out again, but you don't know that because your eyes 
tell you that the stall is free; you can see it, you just
can't seem to be able to touch it. If the stall is truly 
unoccupied, you may enter and close the door behind you and 
now you have locked your stall record in exclusive mode 
(although the restroom as a whole can still be in shared 
mode; you just don't want anyone else with you in the stall 
itself.)

After you do your business in the stall, and piss all over
the toilet seat making a huge mess, you can either commit
your work by just exiting the stall, exposing what you've
done to the stall to all the other web cams now looking in
on your messy, empty stall; or you can rollback your work
by cleaning up the mess so that when you exit, nobody else
is the wiser that you peed with the toilet seat down. The
moment you commit or rollback by exiting the stall, your
claim on the stall is released, and someone else may now
acquire the stall.

So, the lesson to be learnt here is: either learn to piss
sitting down, or raise the seat when you pee.
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Re: ugly sql contest entry / Re: ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2001, Number 333

2001-12-11 Thread Connor McDonald

I've seen a 14 page (9 point Courier point) SQL which
was generated by my ol' favourite Discoverer!  It
actually ran fine, it was more of Discover's penchant
for writing code along the lines of:

select column_list from
 ( select column_list from
( select column_list from
   ( select column_list from
   ( select column_list from
 ( select column_list from

you get the idea...

:-)

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Is that the best you can do?  ;)
 
 I recall something from the list many years ago
 where a poster was
 asking for help with a SQL statement that was
 unbelievably long.
 
 If I recollect correctly, it was about a 64K single
 SQL statement.
 
 It doesn't seem like maintaining something like that
 would
 actually be possible.
 
 Think of what the explain plan output would look
 like.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
   
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   6   )
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   8  SELECT
   9  decode(
  10 decode( X.STU_ETH_CODE,
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   (10/8/1999
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  15 '2', '3', /* Black/ African
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 Listed)  */
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  19 'B', '4', /* South American 
  */
  20 'P', '4', /* Puerto Rican   
  */
  21 'Q', '4', /* Cuban  
  */
  22 '5', '2', /* Other Asian
  */
  23 'C', '2', /* Chinese
  */
  24 'J', '2', /* Japanese   
  */
  25 'K', '2', /* Korean 
  */
  26 'L', '2', /* Laotian
  */
  27 'M', '2', /* Cambodian  
  */
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  */
  29 'S', '2', /* Other Southeast
 Asian*/
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  */
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 Islander (new
 10/8/1999)  */
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  */
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  */
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RE: 9i install.

2001-12-11 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Title: 9i install.



I hate 
Java!

  -Original Message-From: Yuval Arnon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 
  2:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  9i install.
  Hi, I am trying 
  to run dbca (the new name for dbassist) on Sun Solaris 2.7 and I get the 
  following 
  java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
  org/omg/CORBA/UserException  at 
  oracle.sysman.emSDK.common.registry.PropertiesFileRegistry.get(Proper 
  tiesFileRegistry.java:44)  at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemJavaLauncher.launch(OemJavaLauncher.ja 
  va:161)  at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.launch(OemApp.java:222)  at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.main(OemApp.java:80) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
  /export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 0.1/bin$ ./dbca java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/inprise/vbroker/CORBA/Object 
   
  at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.backend.Host.init(Compiled 
  Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.UIHost.init(Compiled Code) 
   
  at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.InteractiveHost.init(Compiled 
  Code )  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.getHost(Compiled Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.execute(Compiled Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.main(Compiled Code) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
  /export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 
  trying to re-install Oracle did not help. Nor 
  metalink. 
  Thanks. 
  Yuval. 



RE: 9i install.

2001-12-11 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: 9i install.



can 
you check javaversion...as i recall it should be
1.1.7 
or better for 9i.

  -Original Message-From: Yuval Arnon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 
  2:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  9i install.
  Hi, I am trying 
  to run dbca (the new name for dbassist) on Sun Solaris 2.7 and I get the 
  following 
  java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
  org/omg/CORBA/UserException  at 
  oracle.sysman.emSDK.common.registry.PropertiesFileRegistry.get(Proper 
  tiesFileRegistry.java:44)  at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemJavaLauncher.launch(OemJavaLauncher.ja 
  va:161)  at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.launch(OemApp.java:222)  at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.main(OemApp.java:80) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
  /export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 0.1/bin$ ./dbca java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/inprise/vbroker/CORBA/Object 
   
  at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.backend.Host.init(Compiled 
  Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.UIHost.init(Compiled Code) 
   
  at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.InteractiveHost.init(Compiled 
  Code )  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.getHost(Compiled Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.execute(Compiled Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.main(Compiled Code) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
  /export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 
  trying to re-install Oracle did not help. Nor 
  metalink. 
  Thanks. 
  Yuval. 



RE: CREATE DATABASE scripts

2001-12-11 Thread David Wagoner

I did something similar on 9i recently and I believe there was a check
button in DBCA for Create Scripts, in addition to Create Template.  Did you
follow DBCA through to the last screen?  I think it is there.

I tried to use the 9i DBCA to create a custom database with rollback
segments instead of the UNDO tablespace, 3 uniform extent sizes, custom
tablespaces, locally managed tablespaces, etc. and it crashed  burned every
time.  A couple weeks of Oracle support and they got nowhere!

Moral of the story:  you are correct to generate scripts!



HTH,


david

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Hi,

I am trying to generate some generic CREATE DATABASE scripts from the Oracle
Database Configuration assistant and I cannot see the Generate Database
Creation Scripts option that is mentioned in the HELP.  It is not listed on
the screen with the Create Database and Save as a Database Template
options.

Can someone let me know how it is done with the 9i configuration assistant
or pass on some Oracle 9i CREATE DATABASE scripts.

Thanks,

Lindsay

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RE: 9i install.

2001-12-11 Thread Yuval Arnon
Title: 9i install.



Hi,
java 
-versionjava version "1.1.7"

Yuval.

  -Original Message-From: Mohan, Ross 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:25 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  9i install.
  can 
  you check javaversion...as i recall it should be
  1.1.7 or better for 9i.
  
-Original Message-From: Yuval Arnon 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 
2:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: 9i install.
Hi, I am 
trying to run dbca (the new name for dbassist) on Sun Solaris 2.7 and I get 
the following 
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
org/omg/CORBA/UserException  at 
oracle.sysman.emSDK.common.registry.PropertiesFileRegistry.get(Proper 
tiesFileRegistry.java:44) 
 at 
oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemJavaLauncher.launch(OemJavaLauncher.ja 
va:161)  at 
oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.launch(OemApp.java:222)  at 
oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.main(OemApp.java:80) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
/export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 0.1/bin$ ./dbca java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
com/inprise/vbroker/CORBA/Object  at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.backend.Host.init(Compiled 
Code)  at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.UIHost.init(Compiled Code) 
 at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.InteractiveHost.init(Compiled 
Code )  at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.getHost(Compiled Code)  at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.execute(Compiled Code)  at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.main(Compiled Code) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
/export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 
trying to re-install Oracle did not help. Nor 
metalink. 
Thanks. 
Yuval. 



RE: 9i install.

2001-12-11 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: 9i install.



ah 
well, a swing and a miss. 



  -Original Message-From: Yuval Arnon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 
  4:25 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: 9i install.
  Hi,
  java 
  -versionjava version "1.1.7"
  
  Yuval.
  
-Original Message-From: Mohan, Ross 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 
3:25 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 9i install.
can you check javaversion...as i recall it should 
be
1.1.7 or better for 9i.

  -Original Message-From: Yuval Arnon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 
  2:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: 9i install.
  Hi, I am 
  trying to run dbca (the new name for dbassist) on Sun Solaris 2.7 and I 
  get the following 
  java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
  org/omg/CORBA/UserException  at 
  oracle.sysman.emSDK.common.registry.PropertiesFileRegistry.get(Proper 
  tiesFileRegistry.java:44) 
   at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemJavaLauncher.launch(OemJavaLauncher.ja 
  va:161)  at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.launch(OemApp.java:222) 
   at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.main(OemApp.java:80) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
  /export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 0.1/bin$ ./dbca java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
  com/inprise/vbroker/CORBA/Object  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.backend.Host.init(Compiled 
  Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.UIHost.init(Compiled Code) 
   at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.InteractiveHost.init(Compiled 
  Code )  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.getHost(Compiled Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.execute(Compiled Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.main(Compiled Code) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
  /export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 
  trying to re-install Oracle did not help. Nor 
  metalink. 
  Thanks. 
  Yuval. 
  


Insatiable smon process

2001-12-11 Thread Jo King




OS Environment  HP-UX 
11.0
Oracle Version  
 8.0.5.2.1

A situation arose whereby the DBA issued a shutdown 
immediate, which did not complete in what was considered
a reasonable time period, so a shutdown abort was 
issued. I believe there was active transaction(s) running at the 
time.

The DBA restarted Oracle instance and accordingly 
crash recovery was completed, however SMON process obviously
feels the need to 'clean up' something as it is 
clocking up cpu hand-over-fist, and shows no inclination to ever 
stop.

Ithas all the appearance of 
looping..

And NowA shutdown immediate 
will never complete...Shutdown abort followed byrestart sees SMON going at 
it all over
again - Why not...it believes it's got some 
clearing-up to do; but it's NOT able to...no matter how much time you give 
it.


A sample trace in UDUMP dest shows ..."Waiting for 
SMON to disable TX recovery" ( this is from my memory)

If anyone has any ideas on what might be causing 
SMON to fret so, and how we might "arrest SMON".

It is non Production, but nevertheless a 
semi-important System test environment.

This is a colleague of mine's database, and I have 
attempted to assist, butso far I'm no nearer to resolving it.

It's been put to sleep tonight, but when it wakes 
up tomorrow, SMON will still havethis Hangover.


regards../Bob 

P.S  Jo King is just an alias 
!




RE: 9i install.

2001-12-11 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Title: 9i install.



Check 
the required O/S patches (in Oracle installation doc), required Java release, 
CLASSPATH env variable.

  -Original Message-From: Yuval Arnon 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 
  2:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  9i install.
  Hi, I am trying 
  to run dbca (the new name for dbassist) on Sun Solaris 2.7 and I get the 
  following 
  java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
  org/omg/CORBA/UserException  at 
  oracle.sysman.emSDK.common.registry.PropertiesFileRegistry.get(Proper 
  tiesFileRegistry.java:44)  at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemJavaLauncher.launch(OemJavaLauncher.ja 
  va:161)  at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.launch(OemApp.java:222)  at 
  oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.main(OemApp.java:80) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
  /export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 0.1/bin$ ./dbca java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/inprise/vbroker/CORBA/Object 
   
  at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.backend.Host.init(Compiled 
  Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.UIHost.init(Compiled Code) 
   
  at oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.InteractiveHost.init(Compiled 
  Code )  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.getHost(Compiled Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.execute(Compiled Code)  at 
  oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.main(Compiled Code) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
  /export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 
  trying to re-install Oracle did not help. Nor 
  metalink. 
  Thanks. 
  Yuval. 



RE: 9i install.

2001-12-11 Thread Godlewski, Melissa
Title: 9i install.



Is 
your classpath set?

  -Original Message-From: Khedr, Waleed 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:45 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  9i install.
  I 
  hate Java!
  
-Original Message-From: Yuval Arnon 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 
2:20 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: 9i install.
Hi, I am 
trying to run dbca (the new name for dbassist) on Sun Solaris 2.7 and I get 
the following 
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
org/omg/CORBA/UserException  at 
oracle.sysman.emSDK.common.registry.PropertiesFileRegistry.get(Proper 
tiesFileRegistry.java:44) 
 at 
oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemJavaLauncher.launch(OemJavaLauncher.ja 
va:161)  at 
oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.launch(OemApp.java:222)  at 
oracle.sysman.vtx.vtxOemApp.OemApp.main(OemApp.java:80) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
/export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 0.1/bin$ ./dbca java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
com/inprise/vbroker/CORBA/Object  at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.backend.Host.init(Compiled 
Code)  at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.UIHost.init(Compiled Code) 
 at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.ui.InteractiveHost.init(Compiled 
Code )  at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.getHost(Compiled Code)  at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.execute(Compiled Code)  at 
oracle.sysman.assistants.dbca.Dbca.main(Compiled Code) Exception in thread "main" wwf2:test9i 
/export/home/oracle/app/oracle/product/9. 
trying to re-install Oracle did not help. Nor 
metalink. 
Thanks. 
Yuval. 



ODBC Microsoft Transaction Server

2001-12-11 Thread Stephen Andert

Hello, 

The application frequently (several times per day) hangs.  Restarting
the MTS (Microsoft Transaction Server) (Package shutdown) resolves the
problem and the users are able to work again.  The database appears to
be unaffected and appears ready to process.

The Oracle ODBC version is 8.01.74.00 7/24/01.
The Client on the MTS server is 8.1.7
The Server is 8.1.5 running on NT 4.0

I traced ODBC for awhile until after it hung the next time. Some of the
things I saw that looked like errors are:
SQLPOINTER 0x0003 (BADMEM)

DIAG [IM006][Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Driver's SQL SetConnectAttr
Failed(0)

SQLPOINTER [Unknown attribute 201]

Any help pointing me where to look for the root cause of this problem
would be appreciated.

Thanks 


If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note.

Stephen Andert
Scottsdale, Arizona

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RE: SQL Lock consistency - a great answer

2001-12-11 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Absolutely tremendous.

No mention of core dumps, I noticed

-Original Message-
Sent: 11 December 2001 20:10
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I have to share this post I got on another list.  Someone had asked a
question about how Oracle locks work, here is the question...

Q: i'd like to understand the lock modes (share  exclusive)
 how to make them on table in DML transaction  why locking is
automatically use the lowest level of restrictiveness 
 how the read consistency occures


Here is the response someone sent

An Oracle table is like a public restroom with an open door.

When you go in to use the restroom, you shut the door as you
enter, and you have placed the bathroom in shared lock mode.
When another person want to use the restroom too, they can 
push open the door and enter. Both of you are now in the 
restroom and sharing it.

However, if you go into the restroom, shut the door, and also
lock it, then you have acquired the restroom in exclusive lock
mode. Nobody else can come into the bathroom, even though there
are multiple stalls in there: your exclusiveness prevents anybody
else from going in there.

In a third situation, you go into the restroom in shared mode,
and then somebody else comes in after you, then it would be
very presumptious of him to lock the door behind him because
it just isn't done for someone to lock another stranger into 
the restroom; it would also make you very apprehensive to know
that he's now locked you in there with him. So, if someone
already is in the restroom and is sharing it, it prohibits
someone else from coming in later and claiming exclusivity
on it (at least not until the first person leaves.)

So, when you acquire the restroom, you should use the lowest
level of lockage, otherwise you're just being rude in not
sharing use of the facilities, and you would probably cause 
a long queue of people outside the restroom causing contention
problems waiting to gain access to the bathroom because it's
been locked in exclusive mode.

Now, suppose you set up web cams inside the restroom to
take video images of the restroom and the stalls therein, 
and issue every one who enters virtual reality googles. 
The web cams guarantees users' privacy by use of read-
consistency: the moment someone goes into a stall and closes 
the door, the web cam switches from live feed to replaying 
footage of an empty stall that was recorded from just prior 
to someone going into that stall. So, although there may be 
several people in the stall doing their business, your 
virtual reality googles always seem to show you clean, empty 
stalls. You pick an empty stall and try to enter it. If the 
stall is occupied, the stall door will be locked, so you 
can't enter it and do things to it, but through the magic 
of read-consistency, it looks as if it is unused; so like an 
obstinate idiot, you keep trying, and trying to open the door 
that won't open; at least not until the person in the stall 
comes out again, but you don't know that because your eyes 
tell you that the stall is free; you can see it, you just
can't seem to be able to touch it. If the stall is truly 
unoccupied, you may enter and close the door behind you and 
now you have locked your stall record in exclusive mode 
(although the restroom as a whole can still be in shared 
mode; you just don't want anyone else with you in the stall 
itself.)

After you do your business in the stall, and piss all over
the toilet seat making a huge mess, you can either commit
your work by just exiting the stall, exposing what you've
done to the stall to all the other web cams now looking in
on your messy, empty stall; or you can rollback your work
by cleaning up the mess so that when you exit, nobody else
is the wiser that you peed with the toilet seat down. The
moment you commit or rollback by exiting the stall, your
claim on the stall is released, and someone else may now
acquire the stall.

So, the lesson to be learnt here is: either learn to piss
sitting down, or raise the seat when you pee.
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Re: SQL Lock consistency - a great answer

2001-12-11 Thread Deepak Thapliyal

this was treat man .. cool and imaginative for sure!!

--- Farnsworth, Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have to share this post I got on another list. 
 Someone had asked a
 question about how Oracle locks work, here is the
 question...
 
 Q: i'd like to understand the lock modes
 (share  exclusive)
  how to make them on table in DML transaction  why
 locking is
 automatically use the lowest level of
 restrictiveness 
  how the read consistency occures
 
 
 Here is the response someone sent
 
 An Oracle table is like a public restroom with an
 open door.
 
 When you go in to use the restroom, you shut the
 door as you
 enter, and you have placed the bathroom in shared
 lock mode.
 When another person want to use the restroom too,
 they can 
 push open the door and enter. Both of you are now in
 the 
 restroom and sharing it.
 
 However, if you go into the restroom, shut the door,
 and also
 lock it, then you have acquired the restroom in
 exclusive lock
 mode. Nobody else can come into the bathroom, even
 though there
 are multiple stalls in there: your exclusiveness
 prevents anybody
 else from going in there.
 
 In a third situation, you go into the restroom in
 shared mode,
 and then somebody else comes in after you, then it
 would be
 very presumptious of him to lock the door behind him
 because
 it just isn't done for someone to lock another
 stranger into 
 the restroom; it would also make you very
 apprehensive to know
 that he's now locked you in there with him. So, if
 someone
 already is in the restroom and is sharing it, it
 prohibits
 someone else from coming in later and claiming
 exclusivity
 on it (at least not until the first person leaves.)
 
 So, when you acquire the restroom, you should use
 the lowest
 level of lockage, otherwise you're just being rude
 in not
 sharing use of the facilities, and you would
 probably cause 
 a long queue of people outside the restroom causing
 contention
 problems waiting to gain access to the bathroom
 because it's
 been locked in exclusive mode.
 
 Now, suppose you set up web cams inside the restroom
 to
 take video images of the restroom and the stalls
 therein, 
 and issue every one who enters virtual reality
 googles. 
 The web cams guarantees users' privacy by use of
 read-
 consistency: the moment someone goes into a stall
 and closes 
 the door, the web cam switches from live feed to
 replaying 
 footage of an empty stall that was recorded from
 just prior 
 to someone going into that stall. So, although there
 may be 
 several people in the stall doing their business,
 your 
 virtual reality googles always seem to show you
 clean, empty 
 stalls. You pick an empty stall and try to enter it.
 If the 
 stall is occupied, the stall door will be locked, so
 you 
 can't enter it and do things to it, but through the
 magic 
 of read-consistency, it looks as if it is unused; so
 like an 
 obstinate idiot, you keep trying, and trying to open
 the door 
 that won't open; at least not until the person in
 the stall 
 comes out again, but you don't know that because
 your eyes 
 tell you that the stall is free; you can see it, you
 just
 can't seem to be able to touch it. If the stall is
 truly 
 unoccupied, you may enter and close the door behind
 you and 
 now you have locked your stall record in exclusive
 mode 
 (although the restroom as a whole can still be in
 shared 
 mode; you just don't want anyone else with you in
 the stall 
 itself.)
 
 After you do your business in the stall, and piss
 all over
 the toilet seat making a huge mess, you can either
 commit
 your work by just exiting the stall, exposing what
 you've
 done to the stall to all the other web cams now
 looking in
 on your messy, empty stall; or you can rollback your
 work
 by cleaning up the mess so that when you exit,
 nobody else
 is the wiser that you peed with the toilet seat
 down. The
 moment you commit or rollback by exiting the stall,
 your
 claim on the stall is released, and someone else may
 now
 acquire the stall.
 
 So, the lesson to be learnt here is: either learn to
 piss
 sitting down, or raise the seat when you pee.
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Re: Serial# changes when rolling back

2001-12-11 Thread Deepak Thapliyal

yeah i did read this thread but still wonder why
oracle needs to use serial# column at all.  Does the
SID not gaurentee uniqueness for a session ... damn
the name says so atleast (session identifier)..

or maybe they just coded it like that and make some
use of the serial #

Deepak

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check this Oracle Note :
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Doc ID: 
 
 Note:1020545.102
 
 Subject:
 
 ORA-00026: CANNOT KILL SESSION; 
 
 SERIAL# KEEPS CHANGING  
 
 Type:   
 
 PROBLEM 
 
 Status: 
 
 PUBLISHED   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Content Type:   
 
   TEXT/PLAIN
 
 Creation Date:  
 
   23-NOV-1999   
 
 Last Revision Date: 
 
   24-AUG-2000   
 
 
 
 
 
 Problem Description 
 
 --- 
 
 
 
 You have killed a process at
 
 the operating system level that 
 
 was 
 
 running a long-running  
 
 transaction.  Now, you are  
 
 trying to issue 
 
 the command:
 
 
 
 alter system kill session   
 
 'sid, serial#'; 
 
 
 
 To kill the associated Oracle   
 
 session, but you can't kill it. 
 
 You 
 
   

Update table problem

2001-12-11 Thread Harvinder Singh

Hi,

We inserted data into 1 of the column as 
test 1 abc 
while the actual value is
 test1abc without spaces.
There are about 1 million rows in a table.
Is there a way to update the table column and remove the extra space .

Thanks
--Harvinder
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Re: diagnosing latch free

2001-12-11 Thread Doug C

Hey Anita! 
Thanks for the useful info. 
Actually, after the stats were hanging I started querying various tables and
those queries also started hanging; queries on v$latch and a couple of others.
I finally shutdown abort and got an ORA-600 error.
I looked it up on the extremely handy ORA-600 tool and found that the first
argument - 1113  indicated the following... 

VERSIONS:   
  versions 7.3.X to 8.1.7
 
DESCRIPTION:

  We are freeing a state object but it already appears to be on the free list.

  This is generally an in memory (SGA) corruption or due to a bug
  in mishandling the state objects.
 
 
FUNCTIONALITY:  
  STATE OBJECT MANAGER
 
IMPACT: 
  PROCESS FAILURE
  POSSIBLE INSTANCE FAILURE IF DETECTED BY PMON PROCESS
  NON CORRUPTIVE - No underlying data corruption.
 

  Bug 1307247: ORA-600 [1113] WHEN AN ANALYZE OPERATION FAILS OR IS CANCELLED
  fixed in 8.0.6.3, 8.1.7.1 and 9.0.0 releases.

So I think it had something to do with bailing out of an analyze.  I'm not sure
how things got gummed up in the first place but the db is fine now.  

- Doug


On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 22:20:18 -0800, you wrote:

Hi Doug!

It sounds like SMON is busy doing something else, most
likely coalescing free space or deallocating temp
segments.  See metalink Note: 61997.1 SMON -
Temporary Segment Cleanup and Free Space Coalescing

While there are events that can be set to prevent smon
from coalescing or cleaning up temp segments, they are
only a temporary measure to allow one to defer the
cleanup to a more convenient time.  The best bet is to
let smon finish its job and then set proper extent
sizes for temp tablespaces or use locally managed temp
tablespaces.

Did the db crash or was a shutdown abort done?  SMON
could be doing instance recovery.  I've seen cases
where SMON was stalled when doing recovery when
FAST_START_PARALLEL_ROLLBACK was set.  Shutting down
and setting FAST_START_PARALLEL_ROLLBACK = FALSE
allowed SMON to finish recovery.

As a workaround in any of the above situations, you
can create a permanent tablespace and redirect users'
temporary tablespace to that permanent tablespace.

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Doug C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok.. it's a sort segment latch.. any way to find out
 why?  It's been sitting
 around for over an hour ... 
 
 On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 14:35:18 -0800, you wrote:
 
 oops, probably only want the events that are latch
 frees:
 
 select ln.name from v$session_wait sw, v$latchname
 ln where sw.p2 = 
 ln.latch# and sw.event = 'latch free';
 
 On Saturday, December 8, 2001, at 04:50 PM, George
 Schlossnagle wrote:
 
  Try:
 
  select ln.name from v$session_wait sw,
 v$latchname ln where sw.p2 = 
  ln.latch#.
 
  Best,
 
  George
 
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  On Saturday, December 8, 2001, at 04:05 PM, Doug
 C wrote:
 
  I have a session that seems to be hung on a
 sql_statment.
 
  Here is it's session_wait entry:
 
 SID   SEQ#
  -- --
  EVENT
 


  P1TEXT  
 
  P1
 


 
  --
  P1RAWP2TEXT
   
 


  P2 P2RAW
  -- 
  P3TEXT  
 
  P3
 


 
  --
  P3RAW WAIT_TIME SECONDS_IN_WAIT STATE
   -- ---
 ---
  62   1239
  latch free
  address 
  
  805352248
  3000B338 number
  88 0058
  tries   

  923
  039B  0   0 WAITING
 
 
  The seq# goes up from time to time.
  My question is how to determine what kind of
 latch is bothering it?
  Does P2 (88) indicate what type of latch?  Can I
 join with some other 
  table to
  find out what 88 is?
 
  Thanks,
  D



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Re: Serial# changes when rolling back

2001-12-11 Thread hemantchitale

One explanation I had heard for the combination of Sid+Serial# goes
something like this ...
say you identify a particular session to monitor ... you then decide to
kill it.
However, it could so happen that that user logged out between the time you
decided to kill the session and the time you actually killed the session
(even
if you have scripted the kill command).  When a user logs out, the Sid is
available to the next user who logs in.  Since another user might be
holding
the same Sid at the time you come around to kill the Sid, you might
actually
kill the wrong user-session.  To avoid this, the next user, getting the
same
Sid gets a different Serial# and your kill must be on Sid+Serial# together.

That still does not explain why pmon increments the Serial#, though.

Hemant



Deepak Thapliyal [EMAIL PROTECTED]  12/12/2001 06:26 AM
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yeah i did read this thread but still wonder why
oracle needs to use serial# column at all.  Does the
SID not gaurentee uniqueness for a session ... damn
the name says so atleast (session identifier)..

or maybe they just coded it like that and make some
use of the serial #

Deepak

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check this Oracle Note :


















 Doc ID:

 Note:1020545.102

 Subject:

 ORA-00026: CANNOT KILL SESSION;

 SERIAL# KEEPS CHANGING

 Type:

 PROBLEM

 Status:

 PUBLISHED









 Content Type:

   TEXT/PLAIN

 Creation Date:

   23-NOV-1999

 Last Revision Date:

   24-AUG-2000





 Problem Description

 ---



 You have killed a process at

 the operating system level that

 was

 running a long-running

 transaction.  Now, you are

 trying to issue

 the command:



 alter system kill session

 'sid, serial#';



 To kill the associated Oracle

 session, but you can't kill it.

 You

 may receive the following

 error:



 ORA-00026:  missing or

 invalid session id

 Cause:  The session ID

 string specified in the ALTER

 SYSTEM

 KILL SESSION

 command was invalid, or no

 string was

 specified.

Action:  Retry the

 command with a valid session

 ID.



 In v$session, you notice that

 the serial# for the session

 keeps

 changing.  Also, pmon may be

 creating a trace file that

 keeps growing.





 Solution Description

 



 It is best to let pmon roll

 back the changes.  If you

 shutdown at this

 point, this work will still

 have to be done at the next

 startup.



 pmon is rolling back changes

 and will let the session die

 when it

 is finished.  To verify that

 work is being done, select

 used_urec

 from v$transaction.  If the

 value for this column keeps

 going down,

 then work is being done.  When

 used_urec reaches zero, then

 the

 rollback will be done, and the

 session will die.



 With Oracle8, you can list dead

 transactions by issuing the

 following query:



 select * from x$ktuxe

 where ktuxecfl='DEAD';





 Explanation

 ---



 pmon has control of the session

 and is rolling back all of the

 work

 that has been done so far.





 Search Words

 



 

Feedback please for PROGNOSIS's db monitoring tool !

2001-12-11 Thread Shantanu Talukder

Hello everybody,
My team is currently evaluating Oracle monitoring tool
from a company called PROGNOSIS. Is there anybody
currently using this tool or evaluated the tool
before?
May I get some feedback about the Oracle monitoring
tools of PROGNOSIS from any one of you?
Your insight would be highly appreciated.



Regards,
Shantanu Talukder
Mpower Communications.

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Re: Serial# changes when rolling back

2001-12-11 Thread Deepak Thapliyal

intresting ... 

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One explanation I had heard for the combination of
 Sid+Serial# goes
 something like this ...
 say you identify a particular session to monitor ...
 you then decide to
 kill it.
 However, it could so happen that that user logged
 out between the time you
 decided to kill the session and the time you
 actually killed the session
 (even
 if you have scripted the kill command).  When a user
 logs out, the Sid is
 available to the next user who logs in.  Since
 another user might be
 holding
 the same Sid at the time you come around to kill the
 Sid, you might
 actually
 kill the wrong user-session.  To avoid this, the
 next user, getting the
 same
 Sid gets a different Serial# and your kill must be
 on Sid+Serial# together.
 
 That still does not explain why pmon increments the
 Serial#, though.
 
 Hemant
 
 
 
 Deepak Thapliyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 12/12/2001 06:26 AM
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Please respond to ORACLE-L
 
 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list
 ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  cc: (bcc: CHITALE Hemant
 Krishnarao/Prin DBA/CSM/ST Group)   
 
  Subject: Re: Serial# changes when
 rolling back

 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 yeah i did read this thread but still wonder why
 oracle needs to use serial# column at all.  Does the
 SID not gaurentee uniqueness for a session ... damn
 the name says so atleast (session identifier)..
 
 or maybe they just coded it like that and make some
 use of the serial #
 
 Deepak
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Check this Oracle Note :
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Doc ID:
 
  Note:1020545.102
 
  Subject:
 
  ORA-00026: CANNOT KILL SESSION;
 
  SERIAL# KEEPS CHANGING
 
  Type:
 
  PROBLEM
 
  Status:
 
  PUBLISHED
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Content Type:
 
TEXT/PLAIN
 
  Creation Date:
 
23-NOV-1999
 
  Last Revision Date:
 
24-AUG-2000
 
 
 
 
 
  Problem Description
 
  ---
 
 
 
  You have killed a process at
 
  the operating system level that
 
  was
 
  running a long-running
 
  transaction.  Now, you are
 
  trying to issue
 
  the command:
 
 
 
  alter system kill session
 
  'sid, serial#';
 
 
 
  To kill the associated Oracle
 
  session, but you can't kill it.
 
  You
 
  may receive the following
 
  error:
 
 
 
  ORA-00026:  missing or
 
  invalid session id
 
  Cause:  The session ID
 
  string specified in the ALTER
 
  SYSTEM
 
  KILL SESSION
 
  command was invalid, or no
 
  string was
 
  specified.
 
 Action:  Retry the
 
  command with a valid session
 
  ID.
 
 
 
  In v$session, you notice that
 
  the serial# for the session
 
  keeps
 
  changing.  Also, pmon may be
 
  creating a trace file that
 
  keeps growing.
 
 
 
 
 
  Solution Description
 
  
 
 
 
  It is best to let pmon roll
 
  back the changes.  If you
 
  shutdown at this
 
  point, this work will still
 
  have to be done at the next
 
  startup.
 
 
 
  pmon is rolling back changes
 
  and will let the session die
 
  when it
 
  is finished.  To verify that
 
  work is being done, select
 
  used_urec
 
  from v$transaction.  If the
 
  value for this column keeps
 
  going down,
 
  then work is being done.  When
 
  used_urec reaches zero, then
 
  the
 
  rollback will be done, and the
 
  session will die.
 
 
 
  With Oracle8, you can list dead
 
  transactions by issuing the
 
  following query:
 
 
 
  select * from x$ktuxe
 
  

like 'wall' unix comman in forms

2001-12-11 Thread hernawan


Hi all,
How to broadcast a message to all user who 
running Forms 6i ?
we use Sun as the database server.

I use 'wall' command from root to user when we still
use Forms 3.0 ( they login via telnet).


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Set Time Zone

2001-12-11 Thread Mike T

Hi Gurus,

How can I set up a time zone for each region that connect on
SAME Database 8i

Case: Database in NewYork. Clients in San Franciso, Paris ..
When they use select sysdate from dual ; ( on Client or server side )
 They should see their local time .?? 

Thanks in advance
Tran
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Re: Set Time Zone

2001-12-11 Thread hemantchitale

Can't , not in 8i.
9i has introduced a TIMEZONE datatype where time can be reported offset by
the UTC+/- offset.

You'd have to build the logic in your application to increment/decrement
the sysdate, depending
on the user/client location (use a lookup table for location and
timezone-offset)  when fetching
the sysdate.
SYSDATE would always return the date on the server where the database
instance is running.

Hemant


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Hi Gurus,

How can I set up a time zone for each region that connect on
SAME Database 8i

Case: Database in NewYork. Clients in San Franciso, Paris ..
When they use select sysdate from dual ; ( on Client or server side )
 They should see their local time .??

Thanks in advance
Tran
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Re: SQL Lock consistency - a great answer

2001-12-11 Thread Robert Chin

 I have to share this post I got on another list. 

Excuse me but what List is this ?
Thanks

Robert Chin

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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:10 PM


 I have to share this post I got on another list.  Someone had asked a
 question about how Oracle locks work, here is the question...
 
 Q: i'd like to understand the lock modes (share  exclusive)
  how to make them on table in DML transaction  why locking is
 automatically use the lowest level of restrictiveness 
  how the read consistency occures
 
 
 Here is the response someone sent
 
 An Oracle table is like a public restroom with an open door.
 
 When you go in to use the restroom, you shut the door as you
 enter, and you have placed the bathroom in shared lock mode.
 When another person want to use the restroom too, they can 
 push open the door and enter. Both of you are now in the 
 restroom and sharing it.
 
 However, if you go into the restroom, shut the door, and also
 lock it, then you have acquired the restroom in exclusive lock
 mode. Nobody else can come into the bathroom, even though there
 are multiple stalls in there: your exclusiveness prevents anybody
 else from going in there.
 
 In a third situation, you go into the restroom in shared mode,
 and then somebody else comes in after you, then it would be
 very presumptious of him to lock the door behind him because
 it just isn't done for someone to lock another stranger into 
 the restroom; it would also make you very apprehensive to know
 that he's now locked you in there with him. So, if someone
 already is in the restroom and is sharing it, it prohibits
 someone else from coming in later and claiming exclusivity
 on it (at least not until the first person leaves.)
 
 So, when you acquire the restroom, you should use the lowest
 level of lockage, otherwise you're just being rude in not
 sharing use of the facilities, and you would probably cause 
 a long queue of people outside the restroom causing contention
 problems waiting to gain access to the bathroom because it's
 been locked in exclusive mode.
 
 Now, suppose you set up web cams inside the restroom to
 take video images of the restroom and the stalls therein, 
 and issue every one who enters virtual reality googles. 
 The web cams guarantees users' privacy by use of read-
 consistency: the moment someone goes into a stall and closes 
 the door, the web cam switches from live feed to replaying 
 footage of an empty stall that was recorded from just prior 
 to someone going into that stall. So, although there may be 
 several people in the stall doing their business, your 
 virtual reality googles always seem to show you clean, empty 
 stalls. You pick an empty stall and try to enter it. If the 
 stall is occupied, the stall door will be locked, so you 
 can't enter it and do things to it, but through the magic 
 of read-consistency, it looks as if it is unused; so like an 
 obstinate idiot, you keep trying, and trying to open the door 
 that won't open; at least not until the person in the stall 
 comes out again, but you don't know that because your eyes 
 tell you that the stall is free; you can see it, you just
 can't seem to be able to touch it. If the stall is truly 
 unoccupied, you may enter and close the door behind you and 
 now you have locked your stall record in exclusive mode 
 (although the restroom as a whole can still be in shared 
 mode; you just don't want anyone else with you in the stall 
 itself.)
 
 After you do your business in the stall, and piss all over
 the toilet seat making a huge mess, you can either commit
 your work by just exiting the stall, exposing what you've
 done to the stall to all the other web cams now looking in
 on your messy, empty stall; or you can rollback your work
 by cleaning up the mess so that when you exit, nobody else
 is the wiser that you peed with the toilet seat down. The
 moment you commit or rollback by exiting the stall, your
 claim on the stall is released, and someone else may now
 acquire the stall.
 
 So, the lesson to be learnt here is: either learn to piss
 sitting down, or raise the seat when you pee.
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