RE: CPU Pegged at 100%

2002-04-27 Thread Mohammed Shakir


Raghu

I am also chasing a ghost like yours. Even though I have much larger
number of cache Buffer chain waits, I look at the total picture.
Looking at my statspack report, I noticed that application spends 30%
of the time in buffer cache contention. How about the other 70%? 

Looking at the buffer gets reports, I found each of my processes having
2.2 Billion buffer gets. Looking at my application, I should not have
more than 250Million buffer gets for each process. Off course the
problem is with the SQL. So I am working first on my SQL and then if
buffer cache chains problem still exist, I will work on it.

So check the buffer gets and find out SQL that are doing it and work on
them.

Shakir

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RE: What block size are you using for your new 9i data warehouse?

2002-04-27 Thread Mohammed Shakir

Default block size is 512 bytes if the filesystem is NTFS for W2K. If
you happen to use Fat32, it depends on the size of the partition. I
believe for a 40G to 60G FAT32 partition it is 32K. 

--- Todd Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I remember right the default W2K block size is .5K.
> The max IO size depends on the RAID controllers used. 
> 
> What, you don't like the GUI? ;-)
> 
> 
> Todd Carlson
> Oracle Database Administrator
> Tripos, Inc.
> (314) 647-8837 Ext.3246
> 
> -Original Message-
> Lisa
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 3:31 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> warehouse?
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to figure out the file system block size and
> max
> i/o
> size of a Windows 2000 system?  My sysadmin had no clue.  (Gosh,
> can't
> imagine why, everything's hidden behind that stupid gui)
> 
> Thanks in advance for any replies
> 
> Lisa Koivu
> Oracle Database Baby Oven
> Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
> 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
> Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Friday, April 26, 2002 12:49 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject:RE: What block size are you using for your new 9i data
> > warehouse?
> > 
> > All,
> > 
> > Something to keep in mind regardless of whether you
> > are using 9i or not. This issue becomes more relevant
> > in 9i with "multiple block sizes" for different
> > tablespaces. 
> > 
> > You always want to ensure that your DB_BLOCK_SIZE =
> > File System Block Size. This is to avoid wasted I/O
> > and also the case where the "read ahead algorithm" is
> > triggered accidentally, when 1 Database Block results
> > in multiple file system blocks being read from disk.
> > 
> > If your application performs range scans, there is a
> > high possibility that multiple "single database block"
> > read requests to a set of contiguous blocks, may
> > result in the "read ahead algorithm" performing 128K
> > or 256K pre-fetches, even though your application may
> > have not required all 128K or 256K. 
> > 
> > This problem is rampant on ufs file systems where the
> > default block size is 512 bytes, and with a 8K
> > DB_BLOCK_SIZE, it takes 16 file system blocks to store
> > 1 DB block on disk. However, even if you have advanced
> > file systems and have a 1-is-to-2 ratio of DB block
> > is-to FS blocks, you are still in danger of
> > overloading your I/O sub-system, "under the right
> > conditions".
> > 
> > If you are using a volume manager product such as
> > Veritas, and if your version of the volume manager
> > supports "dynamic file system block sizing" based on
> > size of the file system or the files themselves,
> > please pay close attention to that detail and make
> > sure that the file system block size does not exceed
> > the database block size (based on the size of the file
> > system).
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Gaja
> > 
> > --- Johnson Poovathummoottil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > We too have a data warehouse close to 500GB in size.
> > > We upgraded the OS solaris 2.8 and our block size is
> > > 16K. All our data and index tablespaces datafiles
> > > are
> > > spread across 20 files systems whose disks are on
> > > EMC
> > > storage. We too user veritas volume manager. File
> > > systems use four 9 GB disks whaich are raid S and
> > > software stripe uinit size of 256 KB.
> > > 
> > > reasons 
> > >  16K  block size as we have many full table scan ans
> > > sequential reads.
> > >  256 KB stripe unit size because we have set the
> > > db_file_multi_block_read_count to 64(1MB)
> > > 
> > > we are moving to a sun fire 15K machine soon and
> > > then
> > > the we will go to 9i 64 bit.
> > > 
> > > --- "Toepke, Kevin M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Cherie:
> > > > 
> > > > If you are using Oracle 9i, you can use mutliple
> > > > block sizes! You still
> > > > create your database with a default block size,
> > > but
> > > > each tablespace (except
> > > > system) can have a block size different from the
> > > > default.
> > > > 
> > > > Valid blocksizes are limited by OS, but they range
> > > > from 2K to 32k. 
> > > > 
> > > > Check out the 9i docs for CREATE TABLESPACE for
> > > more
> > > > info.
> > > > 
> > > > Caver
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:24 AM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > We are building a new version 9.0.1 data warehouse
> > > > on Sun Solaris 2.6
> > > > migrating to Solaris 2.8.  We will be using
> > > striped
> > > > disk that is striped
> > > > using Veritas Volume Manager on EMC disk.
> > > > 
> > > > The datawarehouse will be about 200 Gig.   It will
> > > > be written to throughout
> > > > the day.
> > > > 
> > > > To this point, almost all of our databases have
> > > been
> > > > created with an 8k
> > > > block size.   i'm not sure if that blocksize is
> > > > opt

Re: sqlldr

2002-04-27 Thread Eriovaldo Andrietta



 
HI Yechiel :
 
How can i to install two versions of Oracle in the 
same server , like :
 
Oracle 8i and Oracle 9i, in oracle_home 
different.
 
Is it possible ?
 
Regards
 
Eriovaldo 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Yechiel 
  Adar 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 8:18 
  PM
  Subject: Re: sqlldr
  
  Hello Stephen
   
  Thanks for the link.
  The article is very illuminating.
  As we have some loader tuning to do I thank you 
  for sharing the knowledge.
   
  Yechiel Adar
  Mehish
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Stephen Andert 
To: Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:43 
PM
Subject: Re: sqlldr

Ravi,
 
To the best of my knowledge, there is no limitation on the 
number of records that can be loaded at a time other than the size of your 
rollback segments. I have loaded 10's of millions of rows in a single sqlldr 
job by setting some parameters.  There are defaults 
that work, but don't perform very well.  To determine appropriate 
settings, you may want to read an article I wrote for O'Reilly & 
Associates (located at http://oracle.oreilly.com/news/oraclesqlload_0401.html) which 
gives the step-by-step directions on setting 2 of the key parameters 
(BINDSIZE and ROWS).  It's a pretty easy thing to do, but without 
knowing you data, the only advice I could give is that DIRECT is the best 
quick tuning fix if you can.
 
If you are going to be doing any serious data loading with SQL*Loader, 
Jonathan's book Oracle 
SQL*Loader: The Definitive Guide would be a good investment.
 
HTH
Stephen>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/25/02 10:13PM 
>>>i belive there is a limitation on the number of records that 
can be loadedfrom sqlldr at a time based on the bind array and rows 
default parameter.if i have a data file with more than 5000records(don't 
know the exactnumber) that needs to be imported using sqlldrwhat is 
the value i need to set for the "rows" and/or "bind array" for me toload 
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Re: sqlldr

2002-04-27 Thread Yechiel Adar



Hello Stephen
 
Thanks for the link.
The article is very illuminating.
As we have some loader tuning to do I thank you for 
sharing the knowledge.
 
Yechiel Adar
Mehish

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Stephen Andert 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:43 
PM
  Subject: Re: sqlldr
  
  Ravi,
   
  To the best of my knowledge, there is no limitation on the 
  number of records that can be loaded at a time other than the size of your 
  rollback segments. I have loaded 10's of millions of rows in a single sqlldr 
  job by setting some parameters.  There are defaults 
  that work, but don't perform very well.  To determine appropriate 
  settings, you may want to read an article I wrote for O'Reilly & 
  Associates (located at http://oracle.oreilly.com/news/oraclesqlload_0401.html) which 
  gives the step-by-step directions on setting 2 of the key parameters 
  (BINDSIZE and ROWS).  It's a pretty easy thing to do, but without knowing 
  you data, the only advice I could give is that DIRECT is the best quick tuning 
  fix if you can.
   
  If you are going to be doing any serious data loading with SQL*Loader, 
  Jonathan's book Oracle 
  SQL*Loader: The Definitive Guide would be a good investment.
   
  HTH
  Stephen>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/25/02 10:13PM 
  >>>i belive there is a limitation on the number of records that 
  can be loadedfrom sqlldr at a time based on the bind array and rows 
  default parameter.if i have a data file with more than 5000records(don't 
  know the exactnumber) that needs to be imported using sqlldrwhat is 
  the value i need to set for the "rows" and/or "bind array" for me toload 
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Re: 9i new features, the saga continues?

2002-04-27 Thread Yechiel Adar



Well, sitting here at 11:00 PM on Saturday night building 
replication
for 8.1.6 DB and having a nice time catching up on the 
postings,
I am very interested in your postings.
 
Please keep it up.
 
Yechiel Adar
Mehish

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jamadagni, Rajendra 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:33 
  PM
  Subject: RE: 9i new features, the saga 
  continues?
  
  Yes, I am *still* interested Joe.
   
  Raj
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-Original Message-From: JOE TESTA 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 
9:14 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: 9i new features, the saga 
continues?
Ok life has slowed down some and i've got some free time to potentially 
pickup the 9i new features saga i did about 6 months ago.
 
Anyone still interested?
 
The next on the list was 9i data guard.
 
joe
 


Re: What block size are you using for your new 9i data

2002-04-27 Thread Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha

Hi Dan,

I think you are reading "way too much" into what I
was saying. I was not in any way saying the the
"physical blocks that support logical blocks were
contiguous". I was saying that if multiple logically
contiguous blocks (as in the leaf nodes of an index)
were requested by Oracle requested in quick succession
and if there is a 1-to-many ratio of
logical-to-physical mapping, the "read ahead
algorithm" in the I/O sub-system will be triggered
into performing pre-fetches that are larger than the
actual amount of data required for the process. This
is true even if the physical blocks were scattered.
The pre-fetching occurs due to multiple blocks being
read in random succession. I have encountered this
problem
at some customer sites and synching DB_BLOCK_SIZE = FS
Block Size, by re-engineering the filesystem block
size is what that helped us overcome the wastage and
the overhead.

Cheers,

Gaja

>--- Danisment Gazi Unal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Gaja,
> 
> > Once again I've not tested, but I've some
questions
> > about your comments on physically contiguous" and
"Keep DB_BLOCK_SIZE = FS(or OS) Block Size"
> > 
> > 
> > "physically contiguous":
> > 
> > We know that disk sectors are read and then
> > transfered to bus. There will
> > be a delay while transfering read sectors to bus,
> > but before the reading
> > next sector. Since disk rotates, while transfering
> > current sector to bus,
> > some or all of the next physically contiguous
> sector
> > may be missed. If
> > these sectors were really physically contiguous,
> OS
> > would wait for the
> > next rotation of the disk to read entire next
> > physically contiguous
> > sector. So, OS doesn't put logically contiguous
> > sectors as physically
> > contiguous. By depending on disk rotation speed
> and
> > transfer speed to bus,
> > it's scattered to disk. An optimized disk
> management
> > system finds next
> > sector immediately after the current sector is
> > transfered to bus. This may
> > be done by putting gaps between logically
> contiguous
> > sectors. These gaps
> > may be used for other data. Of course, there may
> be
> > different
> > implementation, but there will be always a delay
> to
> > bus and there will be
> > always a miss to next sector(s).
> > 
> > I've not tested but If Oracle sequential data is
> > stored as physically
> > contiguous, it's a real problem for IO subsystem.
> I
> > guess it's logically
> > contiguous.
> > 
> > "Keep DB_BLOCK_SIZE = FS(or OS) Block Size":
> > 
> > As I remember(???), Oracle uses bytes as
> parameters
> > in IO system calls.
> > And, let's say we created a db which has
> > DB_BLOCK_SIZE = FS/OS block size.
> > is it guarantee that each new Oracle block will be
> > written to new OS block
> > ? Every file is identified by a file handle in OS
> > level, and also there
> > should be a specific value in a register which
> > points to last offset of
> > the file. I mean, next insert may be appended to
> > current OS block if there
> > is free space, and new block(s) may be allocated
> for
> > the remainings. Here
> > is a sample:
> > 
> > - OS block size = db block size = 2k
> > - 1K of the last OS block is free and we would
> like
> > to insert 4K.
> > 
> > 1K is appended to last OS block, a new OS block is
> > allocated for the
> > remaining 2K, another new OS block is allocated
> for
> > the remaining 1K. In
> > this sample, 4K is scattered to 3 blocks, not 2
> > blocks.
> > 
> > I think this will not be a problem for Oracle.
> > Because Oracle uses its own
> > format. The check between block header and tail
> will
> > prevent scattered
> > data from any corruptions in physically different
> > blocks.
> > 
> > 
> > I've not tested them, I may be wrong. Looking
> > forward to hearing a
> > confirmation
> > 
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Manually Create OMS

2002-04-27 Thread ltiu

Hello,

Is it possible to create an Oracle Management Server (OMS) manually through 
the command line without using "emca"? Thanks.

How do I go about doing this?

ltiu
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RE: Re: How come I don't get postings

2002-04-27 Thread Jim Hawkins

And new ones joining every day!

Wow!

Jim

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RE: Storing formated data in oracle table

2002-04-27 Thread Ganesh Raja

Hi,

Oracle does not allow you to store Bold and Italics in the Table...

What you can do is have a Field called format that will help you to identify
what format the data has to be shown.

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Storing formated data in oracle table

2002-04-27 Thread Pati Srinivas Rao
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How to store formated data(bold,italic) in oracle table.
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