RE: IBM AIX Shark storage?

2002-06-19 Thread Ferenc Mantfeld

James

We use Shark internally, connected to AIX, Solaris and Windows servers. Much
better than Hitachi IMO. The caching mechanism is similar to EMC, and the IO
performance is excellent, even with RAID5. Actually I am told it is RAID-S,
but it is all a black box to me. I just know that my DSS DW DB's load faster
with the Shark than they do with ordinary raw volumes on SCSI. HTH.

Regards:
Ferenc Mantfeld
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DBA's

Anyone using IBM's Shark storage solution? What is you're opinion?  

I understand it uses raid 5 :-( with a big cache in front. I've talked
to a couple of DBA's that are using them and they think they are great
and haven't experienced any problems with poor performance (including
write speed). 

We've had a bad experience with Hitachi raid 5, salesman said it was
great so the boss bought it.

Thanks
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RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-19 Thread Ferenc Mantfeld

The problem seems to be with the preferred ven-duh !

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Want to have a good laugh?... read on... I don't  think its OT :) 

A few minutes ago, my co-worker DBA was 'ordered' by one of the Oracle
Duhvelopers from our 'preferred vendor' to fix the DUAL table so that the
application will get a *specific* Sequence Number for something. 

DBA: Why do you think DUAL is the problem?  
Duhveloper:  ...'cause I see the PL/SQL code that says 'from dual'. 

Boy! Are we in trouble or what??   ;) 

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Out of topic :Compare 2 data files in unix

2002-06-19 Thread cosltemp-g . manoj


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RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-19 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

Hallo,

What is dual?

g

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Want to have a good laugh?... read on... I don't  think its OT :) 

A few minutes ago, my co-worker DBA was 'ordered' by one of the Oracle
Duhvelopers from our 'preferred vendor' to fix the DUAL table so that the
application will get a *specific* Sequence Number for something. 

DBA: Why do you think DUAL is the problem?  
Duhveloper:  ...'cause I see the PL/SQL code that says 'from dual'. 

Boy! Are we in trouble or what??   ;) 

- Kirti 

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OT: Viruses

2002-06-19 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe



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Problem with the ?-sign (Euro)

2002-06-19 Thread Anders Bengtsson

Hi,

We have a UTF-8 charcter-set in the database and running NLS_LANG as
AMERICAN_AMERICA.WEISO8859P1 both on the database and the webservers. All is
running OK besides that the Euro-sign shows up as a question-mark upside
down.

Is there a simple sollution for this problem?

I have tried a lot with the convert function and looked in the database with
the dump - command but I havn't found any sollution.

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production database on aix won't be open, help

2002-06-19 Thread chal_ping

oracle-lHi, grurus:
This is a production database 8.1.7.2 on aix 4.3.3, there are 17 instances 
running on the same box.
I shutdown immediate the database and it hangs.After wait for one hour, i do a 
shutdown abort. When i startup again, it failed to open the database , just hangs at 
this stage like:
Sun Jun 16 09:36:40 2002
SMON: enabling cache recovery
SMON: enabling tx recovery
And the sql*plus window hangs at : database mounted, but never showed open.
From another shell prompt, i sqlplus internal and query the instance, it 
showed instance open in read write state!
But from remote node via listener, client process showed 0134: oracle not 
available.
I once met such kind of questions on sun solaris, it is because of solaris 
bug.But never heard of this kind on AIX. Oracle support suggest reboot the server, but 
as there is 16 other instance on it, it is not the solution.
Can anyone help?
Great thanks.

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Re: IBM AIX Shark storage?

2002-06-19 Thread Jack van Zanen


Hi


We are not using them for our Oracle storage but other apps.

But according to the UNIX boys they are much faster than the EMC symmetrix
that we have here for our oracle storage. Setup may be different from a
point of recoverability, availability so it's a little like comparing
apples to pears. They are fast though.



Jack


   

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I understand it uses raid 5 :-( with a big cache in front. I've talked
to a couple of DBA's that are using them and they think they are great
and haven't experienced any problems with poor performance (including
write speed).

We've had a bad experience with Hitachi raid 5, salesman said it was
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Printer Help !Urgent

2002-06-19 Thread sultan



Hi gurus

I am calling report from Form
The report DESTYPE is screen.
Here I want user to print that output only 
once.
Then the system shuold exit or should not allow 
them to print agian.
How can I set ?

Help needed please

syed


Question about sql loader - help

2002-06-19 Thread Roland . Skoldblom

Hallo all you gurus,

I have a question:

Is it possible that  every time the sql loader script runs change the field names to 
the field names specified in the file to be loaded.: The field names should be 
different dates.

The next time the script sqlloader run sit will be a new field name, which means a new 
date as the field name.
Any one who can give me some help and an example of a control file which does this 
thing.

Thanks in advance

Roland

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RMAN -Alternate Host next problem

2002-06-19 Thread rabbit

Recall our Netbackup server holds only 2 months tapes and Im trying to
recover on an alternate host to the beginning of the year.  I issue
following  :
run {
 allocate channel ch1 type 'sbt_tape';
 restore controlfile;
 alter database mount;
 }
then once the current control files are back I issue 
run {
 set until time to_date('01-JAN-2002 03:00:01','DD-MON- HH24:MI:SS');
allocate channel ch1 type 'sbt_tape';restore database;
 recover database; 
 }
The logs (thanks for location guys) ask for tape DC3787 which was has a
date last written 12/29/2001 22:29   netbackupsrv which I presume is the
last cold backup taken by rman, it then restores okay to that point.

RMAN-08023: channel ch1: restored backup piece 1
RMAN-08511: piece handle=bk_5942_1_449790981 tag=COLD_DB_BK_LEVEL0
params=NULL
RMAN-08024: channel ch1: restore complete 


rman then seems to ask for correct archivelogs

RMAN-03022: compiling command: recover

RMAN-03022: compiling command: recover(1)
RMAN-03023: executing command: partial resync

RMAN-03022: compiling command: recover(2)

RMAN-03022: compiling command: recover(3)
RMAN-03023: executing command: recover(3)
RMAN-08054: starting media recovery

RMAN-03022: compiling command: recover(4)
RMAN-03023: executing command: recover(4)
RMAN-08017: channel ch1: starting archivelog restore to default destination

RMAN-08022: channel ch1: restoring archivelog
RMAN-08510: archivelog thread=1 sequence=17138
RMAN-08022: channel ch1: restoring archivelog 

then i get errors 0ra-19511 backup up file not found.

So I can see RMAN seems to know the archivelog files it needs, yet they are
not on that tape,and the Netbackup log doesnt ask for the next tape.
Can I manually recover these archivelogs or am I doing something wrong? I
will be researching myself but if any of you guys can help it will be
great. Plus my weekend starts today.

thanks

Sam



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RE: urgent: production database won't be opened

2002-06-19 Thread Rahul

my guess is that the instance is rolling back transactions which, were
interupted 
when u shutdown the db.


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 Hi, grurus:
   This is a production database 8.1.7.2 on aix 4.3.3, there are 17
 instances running on the same box.
   I shutdown immediate the database and it hangs.After wait for one
 hour, i do a shutdown abort. When i startup again, it failed to open the
 database , just hangs at this stage like:
 Sun Jun 16 09:36:40 2002
 SMON: enabling cache recovery
 SMON: enabling tx recovery
   And the sql*plus window hangs at : database mounted, but never
 showed open.
   From another shell prompt, i sqlplus internal and query the
 instance, it showed instance open in read write state!
   But from remote node via listener, client process showed 0134:
 oracle not available.
   I once met such kind of questions on sun solaris, it is because of
 solaris bug.But never heard of this kind on AIX. Oracle support suggest
 reboot the server, but as there is 16 other instance on it, it is not the
 solution.
   Can anyone help?
   Great thanks.
   
 
 
 
 
   
 
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Re: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-19 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev

Don't see any problems :-)

CREATE TABLE SYS.SUPER_DUAL (specific_seq_num NUMBER(10));

DROP PUBLIC SYNONYM DUAL;

CREATE PUBLIC SYNONYM DUAL FOR SYS.SUPER_DUAL;

INSERT INTO SYS.SUPER_DUAL VALUES(666);

Vua-la!!! ;)

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 A few minutes ago, my co-worker DBA was 'ordered' by one of the Oracle
 Duhvelopers from our 'preferred vendor' to fix the DUAL table so that the
 application will get a *specific* Sequence Number for something. 
 
 DBA: Why do you think DUAL is the problem?  
 Duhveloper:  ...'cause I see the PL/SQL code that says 'from dual'. 
 
 Boy! Are we in trouble or what??   ;) 
 
 - Kirti 

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RE: Free Buffer Waits

2002-06-19 Thread Jack van Zanen


Hi,


I have the book from Gaja  friends already, it's good THX.
I could trace with evnt 10046 but it won't reproduce anymore, everything is
peachy again (?)
Backups run every night (cold) and are used for cloning to test twice a
week.
I would look at all the views you suggest if I could only have it happen
again (but I'd be happy if it doesn't).

The fact that nothing changed to the oracle environment and still see a
change in behaviour also puzzled me.
I'm sure nothing happened because there is only two DBA's here and my
colleague was on leave for three weeks so I'm the only one with access to
production and have some privileges to do something. (developers can only
look at the production data because they also support the app)

Competing for resources may be a valid point but I can not find more than
one session on for the majority of the time (in the end users start coming
in)
and in short this session was doing a drop temp table, create temp table,
open two cursors, manipulate the data from the cursors (in sequence) and
fill a table with the data, close the cursors and ultimately drop the temp
table. Don't see much competing for the same block there

So I thank everybody that replied with suggestions and will check all of it
when it becomes reproducable.

Jack


   
 
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Obviously, you have something in your system competing for resources.
There are multiple sessions requesting the same block.
Everything seemed to run fine and now all of a sudden
things dont work , but nothing new has been introduced into the system.
How can this be ?Perhaps you have other problems that have been
created in the system in the last few days
that wont be seen until your backups are run.

It appears you are going to have to reproduce what you see
and log certain events while the bottleneck  is happening.
I would set an event 10046 and comb through there ... I would
also try to look at v$session_wait which will show the file#,
clock# and id  ( where id represents the status of the
buffer busy wait event ).

I would also buy Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha and
Kirti Deshpande's book Oracle Performance
Tuning 101 as it has been a big help to me.
Other  things you might find helpful would be
www.hotsos.com which goes into great detail on the
10046 event trace and they also have an excellent
clinic I just went too.

Good Luck and Peace !

Mike


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Hi,


I came in early morning and saw the batch job had been taking forever.
I immediately checked v$system_event (the job that took so long had just
finished so session_wait was no longer option).
Since we shutdown and backup our database every night the figure presented
here was basically since the batch job started because that starts right
after startup. So basically the system (with no other logins as per
listener.ora file). had been waiting about 6-7 hours since startup on free
buffer waits.

We did not introduce any other jobs to the batch and it has been running
normally since that one time strange behaviour.



No logging of any hardware/software error was found on UNIX nor 

RE: OID

2002-06-19 Thread Markus Reger

don't like windog at al, but there is a cd

UNIX TOOLS FOR WINDOWS

that offers a shell functionality. it will cost some M$ just to mention it.

but:

CYGWIN works fine

kr


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On Windohs, you'll need to install the GNU-licensed CygWin
(http://www.cygwin.com) in order to use the Unixy shell scripts.

I've tried this at home, and the scripts worked exactly like they do on
Linux.  Note that doesn't mean they always work *correctly*, they just work
the same.

HTH!  GL!

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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Re: Question about sql loader - help

2002-06-19 Thread Connor McDonald

Not directly, but a with little sed/awk/grep etc you
could turn a template control file into a version
ready for use.

hth
connor

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hallo all you
gurus,
 
 I have a question:
 
 Is it possible that  every time the sql loader
 script runs change the field names to the field
 names specified in the file to be loaded.: The field
 names should be different dates.
 
 The next time the script sqlloader run sit will be a
 new field name, which means a new date as the field
 name.
 Any one who can give me some help and an example of
 a control file which does this thing.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Roland
 
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Pl/Sql renaming columns

2002-06-19 Thread Roland . Skoldblom

Hallo,

Anyone who has any good hint on how to write pl/sql if i wantto chang ethe name
 of the fields everytime the procedur runs?
The field names should be 1-JULI-2002 the first time the procedur runs, the next time 
the procedur runs the name of procedur should be 1-AUG-2002 etc.
Please help me with this.

I have tried to look in the manual, but cant find any clue.

Thanks in advance

Roland



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Re: Exp Imp User ?

2002-06-19 Thread Joe Testa

utilities guide, happy reading.

guess who wrote:

I want to know the export and import commands(SYNTAX).

Then i want to know what are all the steps(commands) to be done 
for creating a new user such that after creating i have to use the 
above two commands and to take a dump of scott user , then that 
scott dump should be incorporated into the new user i have 
created.

i want to know all the steps clearly for the above task...


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RE: Online vs offline backups

2002-06-19 Thread Ferenc Mantfeld

I once heard someone actually say 'For peace of mind, perform a monthly cold
backup'. My opinion is that this is the biggest load of crap I have ever
heard. If your backup, or more importantly, your recovery strategy has been
tested, there is zero NEED for a cold backup, as you can fully recover just
as easily from a hot backup. The same person that advocated a cold backup
did not back up the online redo logs, so what use was it anyway, since the
only way they would force open their DB is with a resetlogs option anyway.

Think people, think ! Sometimes it really is not rocket science but just
pure common sense based on some elementary knowledge.

Regards:
Ferenc Mantfeld
Senior Performance Engineer
Siebel Performance Engineering
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If you create a new database and do a full online backup (this also includes
future regular full online backups) is it ever necessary to do a full
offline
backup?  I have heard conflicting answers, regarding this and am looking for
some clarification.  Don't 24x7 applications always have to execute offline
backups?  Are offline backups done for peace of mind, and if yes why?  What
issues are introduced if only offline backups are issued.  In addition, we
are
using BMCs Sql BackTrack product and I am not sure if it is a requirement of
the tool that an offline backup be periodically performed.  If you know that
as
well, please share.  Thanks everybody


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